What exactly was "conservative" about him? The guy was a Vatican II Novus Ordo Globohomo liberal...

attempted to improve the Catholic Church's relations with Judaism, Islam, and the Eastern Orthodox Church in the spirit of ecumenism

This is cringe.

Francis was literally a communist who started out as a bouncer, but go off, memeflaggot.

holding atheism as the greatest threat.

this is very based.
also protism is literally satanism

You realize that communism is anathema and you are explicitly as non-Catholic as you can be, right?

Is just being nice

For 50 years

Not sure, but he visited the guy who tried to assassinate him. And then that guy converted to Catholicism.

Not doing anything against gay German literal schismatic heretics in the Church is being nice? No, it's weakness, and I must assume it was deliberate weakness

Obviously I don’t like him

Don't forget that was a pedo

why did he start ecumenism bullshit with other evil religions? orthodox is fine but islam and judaism are false.

Christians and other religious people are anti-conservative by their very nature. Religion is the original globohomo tool. Christianity and other religions don't care about culture race or tradition. In fact those are enemy to them. What they want are as many believers as possible donating money to the church and elevating the priesthood to positions of power. Christcucks are traitors to whatever nation they reside in.

I interpret that as him being so full of himself and such a cuck cripple that he cannot fathom how to make an enemy. That's the whole problem with him. He's charismatic. The church doesn't need to appeal to people like that. The church is God's kingdom on earth and that ought to be sufficient.

He was against communism, because he grew up in Poland and saw how disastrous it was. He was a major symbolic figure that helped unite the Polish people to continue their fight until communism in Poland was abolished. But you might argue that he's conservative, because he helped cover up child sexual abuse in the church.

he conserved the pedo preists

1. liberation theology is sound and well
2. he sign a document that stoped proselytization of ortodox. Saint Jędrzej Bobola was murdered by Ukrainians because he proselytized among ortodox.
3. he is author of documents (Letters to Roman Rota) that de facto constituted "sacrament of divorce". Other patron saint of Poland, saint bishop martyr Stanislavus was murdered by king's henchmen because he dared to condem kings breaking of Marital vows.
4. He allowed pagans to do their ceremonies during infamous Fatima convention in the Sacrum of the Church. Also he is major author of ecumenism, which caused weakening of faith (I am willing to elaborate why if asked). Another patron Saint of Poland, st bishop martyr Adalbert was murdered by pagans he tried to convert.
5. he was in bed with many secular leaders, non catholic, tyrants, destabilisers (CIA) and so on (the photo with Epstein is not an accident). This unholy alliance caused major drift away from the Church in Latin America.
6. He supported enterprise holocaust

Compared to Pope Francis he was conservative. But compared to pre V2 pope he was radical liberal.

Dlaczego Słowacki wzbudza w nas zachwyt i miłość? (...) Dlatego, panowie, że Słowacki wielkim poetą był!

yet he supported CIA and dictatorships.

Please respond to the points I listed here: I need to ask some JP2 priest about his and what will be his response

Dmowskis camp won cope

He returned to Poland in 1945. Working closely together with Polish communist Wanda Wasilewska, Grabski (who referred to Stalin as "the greatest realist of all") sought to use Stalin to create a compact and ethnically homogenous Poland and helped to design a program for implementing policies to insure an ethnically pure Polish state. He proposed Polish and Ukrainian resettlement plans to Stalin, and traveled to Lviv in order to urge Poles to leave.He became one of the deputies to the president of the quasi-parliament State National Council, until the new Sejm was elected in the 1947 Polish legislative election. Afterwards he returned to his teaching career, becoming a professor at the University of Warsaw.

why didn't poland have a reformation?
catholicism is a religion suited for lazy meds and micks

how is reformation working for uk? Have you praised your jeet overlords today, bong?

We are Catholic and proud of it. Get lost.

It's working exactly as intended.

He wasn't a a "bad" Pope he accurately identified growing atheism and followed through with Pope Pius XII and his Edict Against Communism.

His biggest or best failure was his handling of the SSPX. Essentially the Society was told they would be allowed to ordain a Bishop which would make it hard for the Modernist to prosecute them as only a Bishop may ordain Priest. The Holy See kept kicking the can down the road.
After an event where JPII kissed the Quran the SSPX had enough and Arch Bishop Lefebvre ordained 4 Bishops without approval.

Now this is a big Fing deal because the 4 Bishops are legitimate Bishops according to Apostolic Succession. Lefebvre and the 4 Bishops were excommunicated.

The reason I say it was his best failure is because it sort of did the opposite of what the Modernist in the Church wanted. Because this lead to the creation of the FSSP which started turning back a lot of the Modernist shit that crept in.
Also is was sort of implied by Benedict that the SSPX isn't as excommunicated as the public believes and they've clarified they are irregular not in Schism which is really odd.

Vatican II started that.

atheism

communism

nothing wrong with combatting those. BUT. JP2 acted as if the USA was a bastion of Christian morality, which is comlpetely dishonest, and he did little more than shake his finger at the cultural and sexual revoluton.
why?
because he had no courage. he is most remembered for helping to topple communism, especially in Poland, but i think his contribution is way overblown. communism was on the way out anyway, and JP2 was just bandwagoning with the USA and west Europe to beat a dead horse. if he had actual courage he would focus on the liberal poison that has led to a gay world of trannies and fag flags everywhere.
but of course, JP2 tacitly accepts that the Enlightenment was fundamentally correct, and the poison of the modern world had already seeped into the church via the second Vatican council

see this:
SSPX is irrelevant (personalism can be obstacle to being Catholic). IF above points would not be an issue they would arrive at some common ground. For FSSPX and other tradcaths ecumenism is no no. Same with marriage. It was single step of crawl trough institutions by marksomodernists

again please see here:
Also sorry for sage in name, it was from different thread

he was against communism because he came from communist Poland

Catholicism is embarrassing and also in steady decline in Poland. But enjoy worshipping your Jew master together with the third world kek

Decline is over. Also people who are rediscovering Catholicism tend to go for traditional version. So no

your gypsy pope made Francisus a bishop
he left the church in total ruin
no wonder, imagine leaving anything to a pollack

Globohomo

use one word to disqualify your point

/thread
it's a thought-terminating cliche

What exactly was "conservative" about him? The guy was a Vatican II Novus Ordo Globohomo liberal.

He wasn't even Catholics. Jews loved him.
Tired of these guys.

i wonder what the average prot IQ is that they see this pic and are like

oh my. i must think X now.

JP2 ruled for almost 30 years and had appointed most of the bishops and cardinals in the entire world, so your point is moot, a false accusation, very typical of communists like you, Denis Smirnoff

why are you in a holy war mood when most people are abandoning God right now? there's a reason you, dumb mutt, are not Pope.

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by preaching kumbaya bullshit the faith is rapidly declining. the pope set an example of tolerance and indifference. that inspires nobody. atheism is a boogeyman, its an absence of belief. you think you get people to believe when the head man in your faith starts treating opposite religions as equal?

faith (measured by attendance) is declining most rapidly in protshit "churches"

that's a deflection. its declining in Catholic churches too. most people show up to mass wearing less than even business casual. literal shorts and hoodies. i dont know if this is the same in your country, but i understand the 2137 meme means your younger generations have lost their reverence. besides, there are bounties of "cafeteria catholics" who pick and choose what to believe. clearly, as shown by JP2's example, its better to believe some parts than to be an atheist, and it doesn't mean much whether i believe all or some of it because the pope said jews and muslims are fine also.
i'm not saying JP2 was an evil person and terrible pope. but he continued the very bad trends that the Second Vatican Council started and did it with a charming smile, which makes the whole thing so cringe.

it's not a deflection, it's a counter-point which invalidates yours.

Theology of the Body is feminist sexual theology and responsible for destroying the sex life of millions of people.

you did not read my post and type a reply in the span of 23 seconds. and you're not saying anything of substance either. so explain how ecumenism is either based, or if you admit it is indeed cringe, then explain why something else is worth focusing on instead

only thing good about Catholic sexual theology is that condoms are a mortal sin

tldr

what's the prot sexual theology? oh wait, there isn't one :-DDD

nigger

and i'm Anon, nice to meet you (not)