Can someone explain why the Catholic Church is so rich and has gold crosses and gold jewelry and giant cathedrals...

they'll tell you Jesus was a king first, carpenter second
that's the one thing i respect about prots, they don't indulge in ornamentation

I literally told you:
It was a point for people to represent the glory of God by putting the most effort and extavagance into their "temples".

They did it voluntarily for the most part.

In Germany and Austria we've been paying a tax to the Church for decades, though you can sign out, but then no Catcholic burial etc. for you.

Revelation 17
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth.

donated

It was forced taxation during most of the time until recent centuries. 10% of earning went to chirch

Gold doesn't feed the poor

Yes, but on top of that many, many people donated some money or even all their money to the Church. Especially people with no descendants.

How long do you think they've been around for? It has existed longer than every nation, kingdom and empire. They have amassed a lot of wealth over the centuries, especially from the lands they plundered in the name of inquisitions (like the Americas).

Be honest, which would you rather attend?

did you know that in the bible Judas was throwing a shitfit because the apostles bought a $300 dollar perfume for Jesus's feet instead of giving that money to the poor?

Basically what I mean is, I don't trust niggers that do charity even when it means God won't receive the honor he is due.

They also made shekels from beer brewing

lands they plundered

There was barely anything there. But I know you love this trope, because you think the British owe you something, when the reality is, you owe the West Trillions for the tech we shared with you. Same for everybody else. Meeting Europeans was by far, BY FAR, the greatest gift and benefit to non-Europeans they ever received.

You need to thank the British almost everyday, if you don't want to be a hypocrite. Just saying.

Catholic churches are obviously the best. Not even a competition. The Catholic doctrine is a little retarded, though.

People need beauty like food and water. If they do not get beauty at church they will get it from pornography and other degenerate sources. The church also spends billions of dollars on healthcare and charity. Francis also reduced the pay for cardinals during his time as Pope. The church needs to preserve the beauty of the human labor of 2000 years because the poor will always be with us. Let’s make sure they have access to beauty as well as charity.

Cherry picked in bad faith, England ,Germany has beautiful churches and they are protestant.

The catholic church has a massive budget deficit.

The church never plundered the americas. The Spaniards did that but not the Catholic Church.

Germany isn't "just protestant". It's still half catholic, and buildings like the Cologne cathedral were started hundreds of years before protestantism started.

Orthodox chirches looks like gypsie and kike made shit without any class except maybe churches in Greece, east europe orthodox churches are gypsy tier mockery

The Protestant capacity for creating and sustaining beauty has totally degenerated. The only reason there are beautiful Protestant churches is because of the influence of the Catholic Church. Once that influence faded the Protestants became as bad as satanists.

lol

Not wanting pizza after worship

This was written by a Jew

The entity behind christianity can print infinite money and do whatever it wants. With that said:

Christianity was the I AM doctrine veiled for the piscean age, specifically Jupiter and the Sun in Pisces. Islam was Venus in Pisces. For the aquarian age the I AM doctrine will be veiled under the guise of AI and other technological creations.

Jesus = Je suis = Jeshua = Yah Weh = Jove = Jupiter = Zeus = Deus = I AM

youtube.com/watch?v=ZftML6pAv7E

So you have to pay for a lie

Don't we all?

He isn’t due anything
He is a lie
Real but a lie

Historically they received tons of donations & that went to gilding Rome. Francis tried to make it more modest by not wearing giant abstract hats and gold.

Could they sell all of it? Sure. They likely won't because at this point much of it is historical.

I don’t and have paid 0 dollars to any church

I rather have nice stuff instead of even MORE niggers, which charity immediately leads to

the nearest one

You're clueless... How much did you pay for U.S.A.I.D.? Wasn't that a lie?

You're not even awake to the lies you're sold on the daily.

I'm embarrassed at your nation having so much power that I need to call you retarded in your own language because you don't understand mine.

Catholics are demonic. See their overwhelming opposition to the NSDAP and working with Jews and support of third world immigrant NGOs. Protestants are also demonic. This is self explanatory when looking at America. Thusly, Orthodox Christianity cements itself by all objective measures as the true church which Peter built. Simple as

I am a citizen of your shit country

Went to Austria for wedding a year ago and I was surprised to learn how Catholic the country was. Yeah you're basically born as a Catholic and would have to opt out of it and I think you lose some benefits when you do.

Dumb question
Every religion has had giant extravagant temples meant to evoke grandiose feelings
The only reason the others aren’t littered with gold and marble is because they couldn’t afford it

But I don’t pay for Christianity
Which Is all a lie

God favors the rich

Comfy

Yes.

Hitler introduced the church tax btw.

Is it? He definitely did die on the cross - even atheists admit that - and I believe he also did rise.

Yes he did and he did raise from the grave
Yet he is still a lie
So is Muhammad
But only the Jewish god is real

He definitely did die on the cross

No contemporary historical accounts of Jesus exist; only liturgical sources. Tacitus describes the belief of early Christian Jews with references to the figure of Jesus some 70 years after his supposed death but this is only a description of the faith he observed and is the earliest historical document actually referencing him. Historians who lived around Judea at the time Jesus was said to have lived - most notably Josephus - have zero record of referencing him or a figure with a similar description

False. British royal family does

You're avoiding the question. The question you're answering is

How did the Catholic church amass so much wealth?

which is not what OP asked. What he asked was

Shouldn't they sell all their stuff and give it to the poor?

No one is asking HOW they got their wealth. The question is that, having obtained this wealth, why aren't they using it to help people rather than hoarding it? Jesus was very specific about what should be done with wealth, so it's a legitimate question. Why is the church behaving in direct contradiction to the word of God?

Someone like you has never read the Bible.

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

King David, Solomon were the richest men in history. Abraham was wealthy.

Did these men live before or after Jesus spoke the words above?

Doesn’t matter he did die on the cross
For the very reason he is a lie
This world doesn’t play your rules

Btw, thanks for coming to our country. I hope you enjoyed it. I wish more Americans would visit Europe. It's insane how rare it is to meet an American. Doesn't even happen once per year and I live in the capital.

I'm not gonna argue over this now.

Building a beautiful church isn't against God. And in their defense, the church also does help the poor.

Why?

Because Satan. I mean what kind of answer do you expect, if you boil it down to the quint essential paradigm of this understanding?

I find it hilarious that preacher roll around in Mercedes s classes while their congregation comes in on 10-20 year shitboxes
While being expected to donate
It’s a scam built on a lie

why aren't they using it to help people

They're helping people not go to hell

Jesus was very specific about what should be done with wealth, so it's a legitimate question. Why is the church behaving in direct contradiction to the word of God?

That's your opinion, but you need to listen to what the church says, because they know better, because the pope talks to God. The cardinals don't, though, which is why some vote wrong.

Preachers are the most vile and evil people in the world
You think feeemason are evil
They at least give you the opportunity to accent to their ranks and get the wealth you want
The preachers lie and take the money for only themselves
All for a lie

Not a Jew
But I know what is up

The Rothschilds allow it

Building a beautiful church isn't against God. And in their defense, the church also does help the poor.

But they could help them much, much more. There's a difference between a beautiful church and the extreme opulence seen in many Catholic structures.

Because Satan. I mean what kind of answer do you expect, if you boil it down to the quint essential paradigm of this understanding?

I'm just curious if the church has ever directly addressed this issue. It seems absurdly hypocritical on the face of it

Ok well yes Jesus basically said that rich people don't go to heaven but he was referring to normal people; obviously the clergy are exempt and that's why it's ok for all our stuff to be gold plated

that surely at some point the Catholic church has provided some sort of reasoning.

It's a shame how easily people are misled. Donating your money to others is a good thing but finding a place to donate where your money isn't being stolen by people looking to take advantage of your generosity is depressingly difficult.

That's your opinion

The fuck are you on about? It's not my "opinion", it's the literal word of God.
This shit Catholics do where they hear the pope saying something that contradicts Jesus and choose to side with the pope is wild. I see it constantly but it blows my mind every time. There are plenty of parts of the Bible that are open to interpretation but Jesus' words on wealth and worldly possessions are not among them.

Not a single refugee lives in the Vatican. We must demand DEI for the catholic church.

Solomon himself knew the truth and was a useful idiot or even worse malevolent participant in their lie

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God."

That's not what I said.
This refers to placing money above GOD.

The Catholic Church is wealthy and adorned since is it not?

Btw, thanks for coming to our country. I hope you enjoyed it. I wish more Americans would visit Europe. It's insane how rare it is to meet an American. Doesn't even happen once per year and I live in the capital.

Lol. I was only there for a few days unfortunately and I skipped Vienna entirely. I spent the majority of my time in some small town just west from Linz. One day we went to some place east of Salzburg that was very beautiful. Drinking beer on the train ride over there, and basically while we walked everywhere was very cool

You clowns act like GOD is forbidden to give out wealth, when the opposite is true. He does reward, and sometimes that reward is wealth.

rothschilds literally bow to Bogdanoffs, you are a certified cocksucking newfag if you don't know that

Catholics are fine with this but based theosis enjoyer Kenny C buys a couple of jets and they lose their minds.

It's one of the last vestigial remnants of the ancient Mediterranean religions, Greek and Roman pantheon stuff, which would richly decorate their temples. Roman Catholics just kept the same sense of aesthetics when they usurped the old pagan temples.

top right

Yea, the Alps might just be the most beautiful place on Earth :)

But only because us Germans keep it super clean. It is deserving of us and vice versa and that is why God settled us here, and why the invaders can't have it.

Because it obviously is just a mafia using religion to enslave humanity

Catholics (and Orthodox for that matter) build baroque, opulent churches because they think it honors God and they consider their church to be His kingdom on Earth. They are both wrong on both accounts. We know for a fact that God is not impressed by our petty displays of wealth. What impression does gold and silver leave to He who put gold and silver here on this Earth? What impression do finely cut and constructed timbers make to He who created the trees themselves? The marble you cut was crafted by His hand. The light in your stained glass comes from the sun He lit. We Christians were told that God sees our greatest wealth to be nothing but rags, and we Protestants believe His word. These churches are beautiful... but they are not spiritually imperative.

On the second note, they have a fundamental misunderstanding of what "the church" really is. The Romans and Orthodox both see the church as a worldly organization, a political construct. Historically, we can see the true, universal, holy, catholic church is nothing so mundane. If we look to history, we can see that the concept of papal supremacy is a relatively new innovation. Don't take my word for it, merely look at Canon 6 of the Council of Nicea of 325AD, which declared that the archbishop of Rome would have dominion over the West and the archbishop of Alexandria would have dominion over the East. If the pope of Rome always had primacy over the church, such a decision would have never been allowed to occur at an ecumenical council, particularly one as early as 325AD.

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Nah bro, fisheye lens

Riches are frequently given by GOD to the GOOD

Nope.

Yes. Read the Bible.

Literally fuck yourself for pushing prosperity gospel nigger shit. The good aren't rewarded with monetary wealth by any measure of rule. It's more often the opposite is true that those who trust in riches serve them

Nigger liars can blow me.

And don't they accept gays and trannies now?

is this true I'm actually curious

Like I was saying...

"In essence, the Bible portrays wealth as a potential blessing for those who follow God and live righteously, but it also cautions against making riches the ultimate goal or setting one's hopes on them. "

Yup. That is exactly what I said.

Camel through the eye of a needle, dumbass. they aren't supposed to keep it

To think this is what we used to build. Dead country

they didn't keep it, they gave it to the Church :)

Lake Hylia.

Lake Iliad.

there was a time there were italians were greek like aryan euro mutts.

the temple of athena, become the temple of minerva that become st. francis basilica, the demoralization of such people, from the rape of the sabine woman to the many genocides happening including after the second world war.

italians are turkish-spanic slaves, retards roaming around on ancient god like soil begging for some kike on a corss to forgive the shit they never did.

being the best in many fields and never succeding in my life led me to the truth, not only the technological truth of the apparatus that the turks have a hold on but I saw the space alien gods.

I'm a demi god, everybody is a retard that's why a guatemalan had to shit on my hamburger which led to my premature death, I died from sespis in july 2021 after fighting 3 decades masonic semites that are brown turks.

Camel through the eye of a needle, dumbass. they aren't supposed to keep it

Already answered and proved you wrong.

Don’t confuse Christian with Catholic

does the state pay for your funeral and burial if you pay the tax?

The catholic church does incredible amounts of charity all over the world. It's practically all they do. Selling all their wondrous and priceless art, which is available for all to view and which glorifies God and uplifts the spirit, into private collections would be a terrible crime.

t. non-christian

deku three.

un-ironically "from ass three", it was a three that we played in the park here, it is because it had a pollute river not far from it, the three has an asshole in the game, the three dies, my family three dies too because of masonic-semites are brown and molested the kids into faggots for being non-turkish masonic semites.

the kokiri forest

forms a pig nose, kok = coca, it is a playword with mococa igari.

zora river = venice

anyways fuck the japs and their fucking games

Why they don't give away all their wealth is that they need to have money forever. If you have a bunch of assets you can always borrow money on it or put it into investments.75 billion isn't even that much, Berkshire Hathaway has 340 billion.

The only Christians are Catholic.

Catholic Charities does just like the charity Lutheran Social Services. They receive government funding to facilitate most of their aid. The name is for outreach purposes. When a large donation comes in it goes directly to the church and not to the charities. An example is when an estate wills a large portion of money thinking it is going to the charity for the perceived good work the charity does but it goes to the church instead. Mother Theresa had large amounts of money donated, but much went to the church instead of going to her cause because she believed in redemptive suffering. The church used her as a fundraising gimmick.

Also, look into Cars for Kids.

Doesn't the papacy have the right to repossess any European monarchy's assets if they decide they want to or some shit?

Tacos pablo gringo arriba!

lol funniest thing I've read this week. Christians don't pray to saints, pray to Mary, pray for the dead, need a priest, need a pope, read their Bible instead of having someone else do it for them, only use the inspired canon of the Bible, follow Christ alone, understand that faith in Christ is the ONLY way to salvation, don't have statues of former pagan deities that have been converted to "saints" in their churches, don't keep or pray to relics... ETC.

The property of the church is a public property of all the faithful.

Its a system and a cultural prowess. If you don't understand that you are a plebian

demands assistentialism

Stop being a poorfag and get yourself a job welp.

The Vatican is the Third Temple. In the Bible, God never once talks through a prophet to strip the gold from the temple and sell it or coin it and distribute it. The gold and jewels and whatnot are to please God.

It's the duty of the church to dignify herself.

Can someone explain why the Catholic Church is so rich and has gold crosses and gold jewelry and giant cathedrals etc

Because the Catholic Church is LITERALLY the continuation of the Roman empire.

If you don't understand that you are a plebian

They/Them said unironically while using a BLM flag.

It's the exact oposite, you are fallen from the Christian faith.

You can laugh all you want. Christ created the CATHOLIC Church and his church sets the rules. Christ told you to OBEY HIS CHURCH.

People who rejected the Catholic Church are not Christians because you disobeyed both Christ and his commandments through his Church.

literal pastor Bob trash

Anon maybe you should study real christianity, not your pastor pride event on stage

Most are donations from kings and shit like that.

what's hypocritical about piping about a faith?
i prefer prots to caths, but id disagree here. I think Jesus would be glad and proud all of Rome is the central node of Christianity now. He might be a little miffed that Latin is the medium rather than Greek, which Jesus loved rather than Aramaic which was his mother tongue

Look how triggered all of the pagans are. Explain why anything other than faith in Christ and faith in Christ alone is required for salvation? You cannot.

John 3:5

You are the pagan. You need WORKS to get into Heaven.

James 2:14-26

Works are attending church. Going to confession. Taking the Eucharist, etc.

Usury.

be the Catholic Church

secure the legal existence of Jewry as the only faith besides Christianity

forbid Usury for Christians, but not for Jews

this gives Jews a monopoly on Usury

bar Jews from practicing "Goy jobs" as they call them

this pressures Jews make the most of their Usury monopoly

so they exploit desperate gentiles and get extremely rich

organize purges and crusades that confiscate Jewish riches

Catholic Church gets to pocket all the exploited riches

rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat

Christ created the CATHOLIC Church

No he didn't. He created the Orthodox church. The catholic church split off from that in The Schism.

No, that Church came in 1054

What makes you think the Catholic Church is Christian?

You have it backwards anon.

Yes, you do. Pope stayed Catholic.

Not really anon, it's rather that not doing those works shows a lack of collaboration with the holy spirit that it hardens your heart. But you can be saved without any of that if you weren't given the opportunity.

There is not supposed to be a pope in the first place. That's one of the reasons for the Schism.
All bishops are supposed to be equal. But the Bishop of Rome (later the Pope) decided he was more important than everyone else.
Jesus read a history book.

You need WORKS to get into Heaven.

Explain the thief on the corss?

WELL THAT WAS JUST A SPEICAL CASE

OOOOOOO ok, i see.
This is the problem with the catholic church and why the catholic church is such bullshit. They have all these special rules and laws, and orders, and things that are super important and you can not go against them no matter what....except for when you can....

Catholic love to say they are the authority on earth but then break their own laws all the fucking time.

Great example of this is, well what if you cant get to a priest to confess your sins before you die.
"Oh you can just pray to the virgin marry to get your prayer to christ."
No where, fucking NO WHERE in the bible does it ever suggest you can pray to marry who then gets your message to christ, who then gets it to god. In fact, Christ literally makes it a major point of his teachings that he is the way to God, and he is infact a direct line to God. His entire point was that you dont need a temple, you dont need a priest, you are a worshiper of God, and through him, you will be saved.

The catholic church is literally just a method of control Its utter bullshit.

no pope

no unity

orthodox "catholic" church

"catholic" lool

you got it backwards, you can always come back brother you are welcomed

memeflag

no pope

see

Explain the thief on the corss?

He was saved based on the old covenant. This just shows how ignorant protestants are. On that day both Jesus and the thief descended into Abraham's bosom, then when Jesus resurrected the thief went to heaven.
Also you aren't nailed to a cross, you lazy pigger.

Two of the NSDAP's backers were:

Zionists

Theodor Herzl (Father of Zionism) proposed to back "Antisemitic" movements to pressure jews to move to Palestine, and Erik Hanussen (rich jewish Weimar-era hypnotist) helped get Hitler big for that exact reason.

Jesuits

The Jesuit "superior-general" of 1915-1942 was Polish and backed the Nazis as a jew remover until they invaded Poland which is when the Jesuits 180°ed on the Nazis.

You dont need a pope, Christ litearlly went out of his way to point out you dont need a order of priests, everyone is a priest in God.
Any where that people gather to worship him, is a Church.

It is good to be charitable and help people but sometimes it is used as a tool. There is the whole "charity industrial complex". Neo liberalism and neocolonialism suck up the wealth from the global souths' natural resources through trust mechanisms and the charity industrial complex is sent in to placate the population and it stays there permanently to keep them in submission. As Thomas Friedman coined "The world is flat", this is probably the plan for the rest of the planet eventually.

could it be 1500 years of tithing the richest kingdoms on earth

All bishops are supposed to be equal.

No this is exclusively a schismatic idea. You don't even believe that yourselves. Now the Russian church and the Greek church aren't even in communion.

Worship is the sacrifice on the altar pastor timmy, not your stupid sermon.

god made me a rich nigger

what?

Now the Russian church and the Greek church aren't even in communion

They don't have to be. Its a thing called Autocephaly.

No this is exclusively a schismatic idea

No it isn't. Its what Jesus preached.

Jesus preached one truth and one church, not "Autocephaly". What do we have two bishops "binding" two different things in heaven?
Your ecclesiology is based on pride and it's asinine.

Jesus preached that all bishops are equal under God.
So what you are saying is the Pope knows better than Jesus. And that is heresy.

Why are you asking why jews are not going to sell their shit ? Are you mental ? Have you ever seen jew giving his stuff out somebody for free ?

John 3:5

Thief on the cross. Also... Ephesians 2:8-9
King James Version
8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:

9 Not of works, lest any man should boast.

But you'd know that if you read your Bible.

Based NT reader. What version of the Bible do you like best? Just bought the NASB 2020 version.

Neither.

The coalescence of wealth within the Vatican has been a Jesuit grift for 1000 years. You can literally follow the timeline westward from their base culture in political marriages as they slowly took over everything.
Considering they married into every last bit of every single royal family allowed to exist to this date and concentrated all of that money in the Vatican and it's shells should tell you exactly what you want to know about those cocksuckers.
They are not Christian, they are not Jews. They use the two masks interdependently to bias their actions towards their own gain.
The bible literally tells you they are the Synagogue of Satan and explains why they need to usurp birthrite heritages by enslaving the progenation of every other species except their own.

You cant have nice things to glorify god!

He was saved based on the old covenant.

You literally proved the person responding to you's point. It's not a special case, this is the new covenant Christ has made with us.

He never said that.
Council of Florence.

Schismatics back home get angry wiith the bishops who accept the council only on political basics

Your church is a democracy, the holy spirit already chose one church from which outside of it there is no salvation. And no you don't need to be russian or greek, his church is everywhere in the world, truly catholic.

Ephesians 2:8-9

You don't understand Ephesians 2.
Titus 3:5

5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit,

Mark 16:16

16 Whoever believes and is baptized will be saved, but whoever does not believe will be condemned.

You need the renewal of the Holy Spirit, that is baptism to be saved

Calm down Martin Luther.

The new covenant is given after the resurrection.

He never said that

He literally did.
You have no idea what you are talking about.
We're done here.
Last (you) from me.

Mention it

No, Saint Peter at the gate sets the entry rules for heaven. Stop pretending you can make up things and get in.

Again, this is false. Christ clearly made Peter above the other Bishops (All the apostles were Bishops - they trained the priests).

King James Version

That's not the real Bible.

Only the Catholic Bible is correct.

They “donated” that $ bc the church told them they needed to pay a penitence to the church to get their loved ones into heaven and wrote the Bible in languages they couldn’t read so they couldn’t see that no penitence to the church is needed to enter the kingdom of heaven. Oh and the amount it will take to get your loved one into heaven? The exact amount of land and wrath that they had. They did this bc after the Roman Empire fell they were the only thin form of governance that existed but had no way to put taxes on folks.

Can someone explain why the Catholic Church is so rich and has gold crosses and gold jewelry and giant cathedrals etc.

It's the world's biggest grift. If Jesus suddenly came back to witness it all, he'd chastise these faggots just like he did with the money changers.

... would he?

gold crosses and gold jewelry and giant cathedrals etc

RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCHES are tha same

been there as a tourist

People used to not care about (((money))), now that (((money))) is the focus of everyone's life all quality is awful. (((Money))) is a curse and it is evil; and makes everything worse strictly.

All churches everywhere do it. Every single religion. Its nothing new.

if you study the early church that formed around Christ while he was ministering, the catholic church is nothing like it.. and catholics are nothing like real Christians. in fact, i can't name a single catholic ive ever known that was truly and honestly and sincerely a believer and follower of Jesus Christ.

they built a "church" that was just the same old sprawling babylonian empire as before, it was just dressed up in a Godly veneer.

it comes down to this. there is God. the God of gods, Lord of lords. there is The Father.. and then his sons, or angels and demons. there was Noah, and his sons, the anunnaki, elohim, olympians, devas and so on. and the world fell into worshiping them instead of continuing to follow after THE Father "God".

and Babylon was a Hamite empire/kingdom. he was The Devil and his sons were demons. and his empire inspired others like ancient Rome. which formed and existed in order to rebuild the Hamite empire! the "NWO". and then Christ came along who was of THE FATHER, who wanted to restore the world to THAT kingdom. so its not like Rome just turned over a new leaf and abandoned all the "gods". they out of necessity, took on the authority of "The Father" in order to maintain their system of control. just like jews aren't real jews, teh catholic church is not the real church. they're counterfeit systems.

the vicar/substitute for Christ? thats supposed to be all Christians! when you're born again its meant to be in the image and Holy spirit of The Son+The Father. theres no need for a gatekeeping institution or lawful state such as the catholic empire.

notice how they call themselves Catholics and not Christians. because being a Catholic means you're a member of an institution, cult and false religion that only exists for social control and conquest.

all i see in this photo is more pharisees. and if i tried to preach what Christ taught they'd try to shut me down like the devils they are.

they outlawed owning the bible.

all

prove it, faggot.

he didn't make entry rules for heaven.
You need to understand the difference between these two canons:

Canon 1. If anyone says that man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or through the teaching of the law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema.

Canon 9. If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema.

You can't earn your own salvation, but through cooperation, your good deeds are credited to the grace given by God. Thank the Lord. And yes that means going to church yada yada...

It looks perfectly normal to me, bro

Matthew 16 yes he did

Bind and Loosen - the church decides.

You can destroy protestants with their own translations easily.

for many years the Catholic church was putting people to death for owning Bibles.

so much for spreading the gospel, AKA "The good news". they hunted you down and killed you EXACTLY like the jews did!!! HMMMMMm

catholicism, like masonry, is just judaism for goyim.

the majesty of the cathedrals attracts people to the faith and is a testament to the majesty of Adonai

you've got some straight truth here - well spoken. want to comment on the trinity?

lol didn't realize this was a Anon Babble humor thread... thanks for the laughs Catholics. Jesus is the ONLY way to salvation, bubye.
I understand it just fine thanks - unlike when you hear Latin at a Catholic mass... Faith in Christ and Christ alone. We'll all have a fun time laughing about this in Heaven one day as long as you've accepted Christ, but until then thanks for all the laughs...
Romans 6:3-4
King James Version
3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?

4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.

this is why we had the protestant reformation

Rules for heaven seems you need checkmarks to get into heaven but that isn't how it works.
Albeit breaking the rules of the church is really a sin.

You don't oppose what I say, but just repeat your lying nonsense.

Get lost heretic.

no, that was only a command for the apostles - the "church" simply uses that verse to control faggots like you and to justify all sorts of evil works

Jesus had the opportunity to say things such as:

Adults shall not have sex with children under seventeen years of age.

and yet, he didn't do that.

But I did.

potato

potato

Only for the Apostles

Laughable

I think the same about leftoids who live in gated communities

also the Rothschilds
OP ask your jewish cousins why they won't share their wealth since they are such good folks

uh huh.. sure

there is nothing that says that power was given to anyone else - show us where in the scriptures it says that is retained by the ekklesia (church is a shit translation of that word)

are you seriously this stupid and not read about history? herstory? themstory?

Interesting timeline around the time of Charlemagne

772 A.D. Charlemagne cuts down Irminsul (their sacred pillar); Jews might well have told Charlemagne since the Saxon idolaters attacked you after your people cut down Irminsul, they are intending to kill you so the law of God dictates that you exterminate them before they can kill you. karlradl14.substack.com/p/charlemagne-defender-of-the-west

October 782 A.D: Gathering at Verdun - after Saxon tribes killed twenty significant members of the Carolingian nobility (after the latter had invaded Saxon territory to rape, murder and pillage) Charlemagne launched a fully fledged campaign of extermination against the Saxons 4,500 Saxons - often assumed to be nobles and leading figures who had publicly put down their arms as a sign of their peaceful intentions Charlemagne beheaded all 4,500 Saxons

AD 804: Charlemagne led an army into Saxony and deported all Saxons living beyond the Elbe and in Wihmuodi with wives and children into Francia and gave the districts beyond the Elbe to the Obodrites.”

845 AD the Council of Meaux explicitly prohibited jews from purchasing, owning and/or selling Christian slaves jews could still buy, transport and sell non-Christians to whomever they pleased (but had to release them immediately if they converted to Christianity)

Somewhere in between 840 AD and 865 AD: account of mid-eighth-century Anglo-Saxon missionary addressing the Saxon assembly and telling them that they must convert

paganplaces.com/places/sachsenhain-saxon-grove/

The Catholic Church has waged war on the human race in the name of the dead Jew on a stick for centuries. All their wealth is derived from war booty. Millions of good goys killed in the name of Jesus Christ (a Jew). The Catholic Church is just another empire.

No one here has been "destroyed" by anything you've said. You've proven time and again you don't understand Christ's role here on Earth during His ministry. Our works are as filthy rags, Canon 1 and Canon 2 are made up extra-biblical dogma.
In case you missed it... Faith in Christ and Faith in Christ alone. It's SUPER easy.
Romans 10:9
King James Version
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.

This was what Judas said when a woman offered Jesus perfume that was worth a year’s wages.
But like you he didn’t care for the poor and Christ rebuked him. Christians worship Christ not the Poor. You’d sit here and make an idol out of them and use your charity to glorify yourself.

It's even simpler than you put it:
Christians are second class Jews and they share the Jews desire for world domination. Jesus is just the branding.

they also have banks

Three kings following the star

Cool scriptures to back up your claims my dude. We can go back to the original Greek and Hebrew if you'd prefer since you guys change the rules any time someone makes a translation you don't like. Except for when you do it... or your "pope." The fruits of catholicism are idolatry and a rampant worldwide child-abuse problem. Any doubts about the latter just ask your new head honcho.

Shouldn't they sell all their stuff and give it to the poor?

Why should they do it? Nothing in Christianity is about giving everything to others to the last.

God is a being of infinite Love and Hope; shouldn't his Home inspire Awe and Faith in his Flock?
Its a direct representation of Gods Beauty in his Creations

as long as you've accepted Christ, but until then thanks for all the laughs

I like how pastor Josh thinks he has presidence on what it truly means to "accept" Christ, like he has the keys to salvation. He was born yesterday and never met Christ in his life yet he think he has authority over heaven.

Since the Bible is the book of the Catholic faith outside of which there is no salvation, Romans 6 the epistle you mention confirms the catholic faith.
Romans 6:3
Baptisms yes of course
Romans 6:6
Baptismal regeneration
Romans 6:16
Obedience leads to righteousness
Romans 6:19
Sanctification
Romans 6:22
Sanctification leads to eternal life

We are the grafted on branch to the tree of God's chosen people. Romans 11:17. You're not wrong. Especially considering God will make the Earth new again with His people.

Maybe you are deaf and didn't hear the words of Jesus in John 3:5.

so, The Son is Jesus Christ. theres no question about that. people accept at least the idea that he was meant to be a man, perhaps divine, who was born into this world, lived, effected the world and died and perhaps was resurrected or his spirit lives on in some other plane of existence, in Heaven with God.

but i have come to understand that The Father that Christ spoke of was also born, lived on the Earth, effected it and died. however his "spirit" still lives on today. and if i had to play "Guess Who?" id say the Father was Noah. he would be El and the El-ohim would be his sons. "The sons of Noah" would be the Anunnaki, and Noahs name was Anu.. and before the flood he was known as a preacher of righteousness, much like how Christ was a tacher and preacher of righteousness. and thats because he was following after The Father and in the same "Holy Spirit". and so when Christ said to be at the right hand of the Father, he meant Noah. where as Ham, the direct son of Noah was "The Devil" who like Lucifer tried to exalt himself above his fathers throne, law, etc.. and so in Job when Satan and God are debating if Job is sincere and truly holy or only obeying laws for some other reason.. i think it was a crucical part in human history where things split and Ham went to war against his father. Ham was the one roaming the Earth after the flood looking for who he could devour or slay for their sins. and so thats why hes "the accuser" hes trying to prove to God that people are just wicked and theres no real repentance of sanctification possible.. which is why Jesus is emphasized as being the only way to The Father and the Holy Spirit. we can never reconnect to The Father or God until we circumvent or cut out and reject the "gods" or false idols that were his sons.. the fallen angels, demons etc. Noah = EVERYONE's forefather. so his Holy Spirit is written into our hearts (DNA). we need to tap into it via faith in righteousness.

God's chosen people

Matthew 21:33-45

Keep making your stupid excuses. As your lies are endless, I am out of here.

Can someone explain why the Catholic Church pollutes the atmosphere with black smoke destroying the atmosphere and accelerating climate change which is destroying the world, and rapes children?

No other church in history has provided more for feeding the poor, clothing the naked, educating the ignorant, and sheltering the homeless.

All have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. Your good works mean nothing. John 3:16 says that whosoever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting life. Romans 6:3 literally proves my point or did you not read it? We are baptized into HIS DEATH. He died, took on unrighteousness as a sinless sacrifice so that we may ALL be covered by what he did. We are CLOTHED in His righteousness. There is NOTHING we can DO. Same with 6:6, same with 6:16, same with 6:19, same with 6:22.

Obedience means submission to Christ. Period.
Romans 1:16. For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first and also to the Greek.

... is it not odd that Jesus, while having the opportunity to provide the world with much needed guidance, in his silence, allowed for the unjust and continued persecution of homosexuals, while saying nothing about pedophilia?

The catholic church is the mother of all harlots, anon. She has made people all over the world drink from her abominable cup and made both rich and poor commit fornication with her idols. The reason why they have so many riches is because catholicism and faith in Christ are both mutually exclusive ideas.
You cannot be a catholic and be a follower of Christ, for you will have to serve one and despise the other.

John 3:5

Yet if you read on... we are all born of water, flesh unto flesh.
5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.

6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
And yes God's "chosen" people, the Jews, did not recognize their Savior, so the Vineyard was opened to the gentile that accepts Christ.

i understand the flaws in the theory in regards to the chronological order of events like in Genesis. the fall of the angels happened before the flood. but i'm under the impression Genesis is a key which is meant to be used to unlock deeper meaning within every other book within the Bible. and the confusing thing is it was not written first. most morons would likely assume the Bible was written as a single work or book and in the order in which its presented. i mentioned the book of Job, i believe it may have been one of the first books of the Bible written and it was documenting events which happened after the flood. Job lived in the post flood world and Noah and his sons were the "gods" or rulers of that world. where as Job was like a sort of "mortal" seeing as people lived a lot shorter lives after the flood.

i believe genesis was written after the flood, obviously.. every book within the Bible was. therefore the accounts of Lucifer and fallen angels are like foreshadowing to understand what happened after the flood with Noah and his sons. because Noah became "God' of the new world after the flood. he was the alpha.. the oldest, wisest, mightiest and so on. like you couldn't match the guy physically either, he was probably an absolute gigachad. and so we have all these different mythologies and legends, mostly poetic or stylized in some way or another. yet if you look there is something that connects them all, they all overlap. and the ONLY rational and logical explanation is that all these various pantheons and so called gods are simply the sons of Noah. they lived hundreds of years, they were mighty men and so on. they saw the daughters of men were beautiful.. (mortals) and started mixing in with them. and they are our ancestors. Zeus was the Devil, among many other names. a lot of people who relate to him are "demons" to some degree or another. john 8, Jesus speaks of their father the devil.. it was HAM.

Or abuse of the young. Or canonizing (lol that alone is hilarious) people like Mother Teresa who was awful to people.

there is God. the God of gods, Lord of lords. there is The Father.. and then his sons, or angels and demons.

Gnostic nonsense.

They used to let you pay for indulgences and would excommunicate you if you tried to reduce their financial power.

Your good works mean nothing.

who said they do, speaker of the devil. Never once I said this.

There is NOTHING we can DO.

Reformed predestination nonsense. You need to collaborate with your free will.

By Grace, you obey, you get baptized, regenerated, all your sins are washed, every time you stumble you get back up and ask for forgiveness and whomever endures to the end will be saved.

We are all?

Except a man be born of water

except

a man

be born of water

except

Completely nuts, this is why illiterates were banned from reading the bible.

i'll add this. this world is said to be "the Devil's" and thats because his spirit is still alive in some way. the empire and system he created, the NWO and Babylon.. it still exists today. its taken on different forms, but his children and followers have kept the whole cult going. thats what the illuminati is, zionism, masonry, the catholic church, jesuits etc.. its all to reestablish the one world system that they created after the flood, which was then divided and broken apart by God.

and so my point is, since we live in a world that is dominated by the children of the devil, theres al ot of confusion and division within the real Church. and its all by design. people don't know who the Father is because the children of the Devil desperately dont want people to know who the Father is, or to worship him or to be in his image or to share in and be guided by his Holy Spirit. they want to eradicate that spirit from the earth and all memory. but you know whats going to happen? God wins, and his son, Ham, The Devil loses. it'll just take a few thousand years to work itself out but ya know... people are retarded, after all.

they pride themselves on knowing big secrets that the rest of the world doesnt. they think it makes them powerful. they'll tell you the devil has many names but wont actually tell you any of them. they won't explain how he lived and died. yup, i said it.. the Devil's dead. all thats left is the mess he made of this world, that baby eating bastard.

I can’t believe I’ve actually read an interesting post about theology on this hellhole of a board
for some reason I’d never considered that the books could have been written out of order, but thinking about it, of course they would have been.

The Fascist Church

In The History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire, it is Edward Gibbon's lavishly documented thesis that it was the attitudes and tactics of the emergent institutional Church that deliberately destroyed the pagan world and caused the fall of Rome.

This is not an easy chapter to write, nor a pretty story to tell. If the motives, attitudes, and institutions involved were safely dead, this would still be a history to stduy for its instructive power and amazing consequences. As it is, the attitudes that brought the eclipse are still alive, and this is all the more reason to study their origins and development.

There is a dynamic within Christianity that is naturally triumphant: it enables man to overcome himself and the world. This dynamic is contagious, as much of history shows. Otherwise we would not have the Gospels, epistles, and other great writings and examples of holy lives. But when this dynamic feeds upon anything except the accomplishment of the two great commandments, it runs riot in the hearts and minds of men and destroys life, knowledge, and liberty.

The word fascist is currently used so indiscriminately as a term of abuse that it is appropriate here to describe briefly its origin and history to give a sense of my intent in using it.

I've known some evangelical prots that spend $40k on a light system for their worship services (modern worship music fucking sucks dick). I have more respect for Methodists working out of century old churches who live in the attached house and generally spend the tithe money on Church and organ upkeep.

they created darwinism, naturalism, pushed fake science to try and substantiate atheism. ALL to turn people away from the Father. its why they attack and bring doubt to Christ as well. they desperately do not want the world awakening to the Holy Spirit and finally casting away all the false idols.

and lets appreciate what idols even are. after these gods died, the sons of noah, their cults continued to worship them.. obviously. and they'd carry around large statues of them to different rituals, events etc.. and they'd provide sacrifices and offerings.. like their own children. yeah.. needless to say it was INSANE. and Jesus is very different in that he frees people from all of that madness. he sacrificed himself for us, whereas jerks like Ba'al expect us to sacrifices our own to him. VERYYYY different.

and THATS who jews secretly worship, thats their 'god'. its lucifer, satan, the devil. they want his whole world.. MAMMON. earthly riches, power, wealth, status, wealth etc.. thats how you know they're not of The Father because he wasn't like that at all. so they can pretend to be of his covenant but they are not in his image at all whatsoever. and once you get to know Christ and the Father through him, you'll begin to see how many fakes there are out there. from catholics to jews, mormons etc.. you'll find, unfortunately.. the most churches no matter what denomination, is run by devils. by people who are members of some Hamite cabal.

Cause some of you stupid motherfuckers still fall for the desert tales, that's why

Centuries before the city of Rome was founded on the banks of the Tiber, there existed on the Italian peninsula a symbol of authority called the fasces, a double-headed ax with the handle surrounded by birch or elm rods secured by a red thong or strap, with the blades protruding from the side. In later times and places the double-headed ax was replaced with a single-bladed one.

The fasces later became a symbol of the highest magistrates and their penal power in ancient Rome. It was carried by the lictors, or attendants. Emperors originally had twelve fasces, but after Domitian, who reigned from 81 to 96, they had twenty-four, as did dictators, and consuls had twelve, praetors six, priests one. Lowering the fasces was a form of saluting a higher officials. Removing the ax within the city signified recognition of the people's sovereignty.

Prosperity theology ministers should all be hanged for apostasy.

These meanings are still carried in the Italian word fasio, meaning "bundle," a word used to characterize a community united around one executive power or principle. The royal families of the Old World were replaced by humanistic ideals in the New to provide the center around which to build a nation. With the founding of the United States these ideals were expressed as the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness and freedom of speech. The officers and representatives of the government were to be selected by the people, so that the country could become one nation, under God, with liberty and justice for all, symbolized in the motto "E pluribus unum", from many, one.

In the range of its historical applications, both ancient and recent, the fasces symbolizes good and noble communities as well as evil and perverted governments. Thus to say that the Roman Catholic Church was a clear and powerful example of a fascist institution is not necessarily a reproach, any more than the fasces was a symbol of evil on the American coin. The primal teachings of Jesus, the two great commandments, are the natural center of Christianity and all Christian Churches, but this was not the ideal upon which the Roman Church built its empire. Rather, when the Church was but three centuries old, its institutional impulses superseded the teachings of Jesus. Instead of uniting the wider community around the liberating ideals of the two great commandments, Church leaders, as we have seen, chose sides for political reasons in a theological dispute. The winners defined the Church with manufactured doctrines and put the welfare of the institution and their adherents above the Law of God. These impulses eventually provided justification for extraordinary forms of personal aggrandizement and moral decadence.

"Outside the Church there is no salvation," was the cry. The error became institutionalized and set in motion attitudes and policies that rattled down the centuries from disaster to depravity, until the institution founded on Christ became the embodiment of that which was opposite of what he taught. Unless we understand this history, we will not comprehend the nature of our time or why in some quarters there remains deep antipathy between science and religion.

There used to be a rule on Anon Babble that whenever the question why comes up the answer most often boils down to...

The greatest repositories of knowledge of the old cosmology in the West were elements of Judaism and certain of the pagan philosophies and religions, which the early Church assiduously destroyed for the sake of presenting Christianity as an exclusive revelation -- the only path to God -- rather than as the continuation and fulfillment of many ancient traditions that in fact, it is. The previously described, aggressive authoritarianism of competing bishops with different interpretations of the Son's nature, manifested elsewhere against pagans as an organized, lethal, book-burning fascism--a fascism that eventually turned against all those defined as heretics.

God is powerful.

Fuck off, Kike.

one nation, under God

"under God" was added to the pledge in the 1950's

Romans built that you nigger

Shouldn't they sell all their stuff

Your computer has gold in it. sell it , and give the money to niggers so they can buy some fresh golden grills.
At least that way we won't have read your retarded commie posts.

walk into Pope's audience chamber

the room looks like a giant snake head

between its fangs there's a statue of Christ

really makes you think