How reliable is the Ukraine's holodomor history?
How reliable is the Ukraine's holodomor history?
Ukraine's holodomor history?
It's as credible as any kikery the ukikes kike
The commie ukikes that perpetrated the atrocities under stalin, the Georgian, are literally the grandparents of the ukikes in Washington DC that started the ukike war and as always blame the Russians, especially the Russian peasants. Just like the commie kikes did in the holodomor
What a cohencidence
Pic related
In every fucking literal and figurative sense
Hohlodomor. Famine affected everyone but mostly regular russians, yes the famine was caused by retarded bolshevik policies, but hohols pretend that it was genocide against them committed by russians.
The man who is in charge of the “historic providing” of Holodomor recognition - the great famine of the 1930s - has never gone into higher education.
The news comes after the results of an ‘independent investigation” held by the Crimean police head and MP, Gennady Moskal, were announced by the Ukrainian Peoples’ Self-Defense movement press-service.
Moskal has long been concerned with the biography of the country’s security service deputy head, Andrey Kislinsky, accusing him of trading in prostitution, but this time things have gone too badly and seriously for Kislinski.
After a deputy’s enquiry, Moskal found out that Kislinsky – officially certified historian and professor of History – never graduated from the Kiev State University. More than that, he never even studied there, at least between 1994 and 2000 – the period Kislinsky was supposed to have been pounding the books.
The University’s register boasts no student with such a name.
Moskal has demanded Ukraine’s government and the Prosecutor’s Office give their “assessment of Kislinsky’s using a fake document.”
Kislinsky is now in charge of the Holodomor case, busy with discovering more and more proof of Moscow’s “genocide of the Ukrainian population.”
So you are saying that Ukrainian narrative of holodomor being intentional is correct?
Fake and gay. The Russian empire had had famines going back centuries, the famine was just another one of them. Russia and the stan countries were actually hit harder than Ukraine. The Soviet policies actually made sure that this would be the last famine the USSR suffered (with the exception of a mini famine in 1944 which was due to WW2 and not due to agricultural policies).
rt.com
Meanwhile, it may turn out that Ukrainian claims have little to do with history.
As quoted by the Russian Izvestia newspaper, Vladimir Kornilov of the Kiev branch of the Institute of CIS Countries has discovered why the official number of alleged Holodomor victims has significantly increased since the launch of Yushchenko’s campaign.
According to Kornilov, the so-called “Book of Memory”, published in Ukraine’s regions, is full of falsifications.
Instead of real victims of famine, one can find in the book alcoholics, different crash victims, and even those who weren’t alive in 1932-1933.
More reliable than Russians claiming to be the most virtuous force in WWII while conveniently forgetting all about the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact.
was caused by retarded bolshevik policies
It was caused by the policies of the Tsars. The Bolsheviks ended famines.
but hohols pretend that it was genocide against them committed by russians.
Even Conquest who is a rabid anti Russian admits that the famine was not intentional.
...which, demographically, was nothing compared to the Hoelodomor, when they refused to birth and aborted all pregnancies
about 6 million percent more reliable than other genocide stories
dont know dont care
i just use it as a tool to discredit the holocaust and downplay the alleged suffering of kikes
Zelensky
Reliable
From Wiki
The famine of 1601–1603 is believed to be Russia's worst in terms of the portion of the population affected, as it may have killed 2 million people (1/3 of the population). Other major famines include the Great Famine of 1315–17, which affected much of Europe, including part of Russia[2][3] as well as the Baltic states.[4] The Nikonian chronicle, written between 1127 and 1303, recorded no less than eleven famine years during that period.[5] One of the most serious crises before 1900 was the famine of 1891–1892, which killed between 375,000 and 500,000 people, mainly due to famine-related diseases. Causes included a large autumn drought resulting in crop failures. Attempts by the government to alleviate the situation generally failed which may have contributed to a lack of faith in the Tsarist government and later political instability.[5][6] In 1899, the Volga area, especially Samara, suffered starvation, typhus and scurvy, which depleted Red Cross aid.[7]
en.wikipedia.org
Not reliable at all, since they act like the Russians are to blame for it while still being under the control of the tribe that actually did it.
You are supposed to be a Russophobe. Israel is supposed to hate Russia, remember? Because Russia is based and redpilled, etc. It seems like you are not an ethnic Israeli, but a tourist. But practice caution, so that you don't make Russia look bad online.
can't farm
kill jews
kill poles
lose easily in open battle
nooo it was da evil rushans
I'm Arab. And my goal is telling the truth. The Hoholdohoax is BS.
They say it was Stalin's fault (a Georgian) but that Russians were complicit and liked it
He’s a kike. He knows the Holodomor was perpetrated by his fellow kikes and that’s why he blames “Russian Tsars” for the famines. He’s doing preemptive damage control
Russian kikes covering up their crimes
Hoholdomor
Fake and gay
he is a kike
WRONG >I am arab
BTFO amerikike seethe
This is was it seems like. Communism just being communism.
the Bolsheviks ended famines
Ah yes, Jewish communists, famous for treating non Jews under their power with love and respect.
The number of victims is significantly inflated. The millions that the hohols love talking about was much much less.
Not really at all. It's a "National mythos" that tries to justify independent nationhood out of a victim complex, similar to how say Australia uses a distorted Gallipoli narrative to justify it's independence from the UK.
Holodomor was largely just the result of a major famine that hit the region and Kazakstan and rural Ukraine being hit the hardest, because grain was requisitioned to support the cities. No evidence in the archives they ever targeteted Ukrainian (or Kazakstan).
Bad Empanada did a pretty good breakdown of it ages ago, with a video titled "how Wikipedia lies to you".
They did in fact end famines by allocating the agricultural food fairly and ended the way hohol land owners hoarded the harvest. The 1933 famine was the last famine the USSR had.
Well if they weren't everyone would dislike them today.
But it seems like Americans dislike the bolsheviks the most despite never seeing let alone living there ... this is a truly interesting historical phenomenon. The more distance you have from communism, the more you hate it
Your countryman Robert Conquest may he rest in pain was a leading figure in propagating this myth, yet even he admits it was not intentional but rather due to failed policy.
It happened. There are actually mass graves all over Ukraine from it, and unlike the holohoax, they've been excavated. The only two governments that deny it was a genocide are (((Russia))) and (((Israel))).
Case in point, the denier is an Israeli kike whose grandparents were probably shooting Ukrainian children during the famine.
(((Russia)))
are you retarded
As I said above I'm an Arab. I have nothing to do with that part of the world personally. Just want to know the truth instead of blindly following popular opinion. But ask yourself this question, don't you find it strange that the same people who spread lies about terrorism, drugs, and other CIA crap are the same people who spread the hoholdohoax myth? why do you believe them on this matter and not the others?
Yes i said above that this was the exception but due to WW2 not policy.
And don't get me started on this lying faggot CIA operatchik.
Is obvious for everyone that direct aproaches will never work
Why they knew what happens today
Ukranians kids are hungry on ukranian land and all the aid of europe can't reach them because the russians are on the other side
Oh we're pretending natsoc = bad right?
Fair enough. Though it happened immediately after the ww2, not just during it. And it wasn't a "mini" famine, it was a yet another full blown humanitarian catastrophe.
As a point of reference, there was an earthquake that destroyed the entire capital of Turkmenian SSR in 1948, and there weren't enough resources to do anything about the city for a long while, because resources were needed elsewhere. The post-war years were a shitshow.
But it seems like Americans dislike the bolsheviks the most despite never seeing let alone living there ... this is a truly interesting historical phenomenon. The more distance you have from communism, the more you hate it
Americans hate Communism because they were brainwashed to do it. Americans have no capacity for understanding anything with a bit of complexity.
Just want to know the truth
No you don't. You came into this thread screaming that it didn't happen using ethnic slurs against Ukrainian people. Everything you said was a lie specifically promoted by Jews and communist propagandists.
But ask yourself this question, don't you find it strange that the same people who spread lies about terrorism, drugs, and other CIA crap are the same people who spread the hoholdohoax myth?
The CIA has nothing to do with the Holodomor. The CIA didn't exist until 1947. The genocide happened in 1933. Germany knew about it, told the world, and sent aid to Ukraine. Western governments and newspapers covered it up.
I dunno. How reliable is Israel's holocaust history?
Never happened, but should have.
To the last hohol, preferably.
The leadership of Stalin (and the might of the Russian people of course) made it possible for the USSR to win the war and survive it afterwards. I don't understand people who nostalgize about tsarist times when Russia was almost on the point of break up and destruction then. Just look at the debacle of the 1904 war.
All the European countries started recognizing it as a genocide once they needed to defend Ukraine. Up until that point, the vast majority of historians just considered it poorly organized agriculture decisions.
at the same time 42% of Kazakhs died and millions of Russians. If this was actually targeted at Ukrainians, they would not have died as well.
This was simply what was common back then that famines happened with poor agricultural decisions and them not being as informed about how to cultivate as well as we can now.
Western governments and newspapers covered it up.
Because it didn't happen. The holodohoax myth started around the 50's when the west became anti USSR.
Because it didn't happen. The holodohoax myth started around the 50's when the west became anti USSR.
Also another one
If this was actually targeted at Ukrainians, they would not have died as well.
Moscow actually made more effort in Ukraine than in Russia itself to assuage the famine. No one talks about this.
I love that movie.
no shit, I dated one and her grandfather happily rounded up his countrymen for a warm uniform and hot meals.
genocide against them committed by russians.
it was a prelude to ww2 and it was the rich jews thinning the herd of the less desirable/competition.
Official statement of Russian parliament in 2008:
"approximately 7 mil peoples died in holodomor."
Russkie propaganda is for literal 80IQ retards
Just because the country is at one of its historical low points doesn't mean it should break up and destroy itself. The WW1 was a disaster that completely altered the course of the region for the worse. The point of view is that Russia was steadily reforming, it needed a few more decades and wasn't allowed that.
Genocide because of communist indifference is still genocide.
Americans have no capacity for understanding anything with a bit of complexity.
all hail the inner party, kek
The tsars were unable and unwilling to reform. That system outlived its purpose and Russia needed a quick change.
[The largess and war actions of the fellow traveller Roosevelt and his cronies] made it possible for the USSR to win the war and survive it afterwards.
FTFY
This is the position of president Putin himself
casseng.cssn.cn
The US did help with certain armaments. But victory was ultimately Russia's.
10/10 larp.
More than anything that comes from Russia that I am certain of!
All VatNiggers should fucking hang
Holodomor
Is actually retard speak for “hold the door.”
About as reliable as any ukrainian source of information. Read: not at all.
He's right. The later tsars were no different from the west loving liberals Russia has today. They would've given Russia to the judeo-anglo empire on a gold platter.
The reality is that Bolsheviks were funded by Tsarist secret police as a lesser evil to anarchists and SR. You can wipe all bolsheviks and then the only thing that changes for the Tsar is that someone else kills him, either the anarchists or a rival Royal family (let's not forget that original ruler of Russia is Rurik dynasty, not Romanov)
Lol what?
Communism is synonymous with famine, stop defending your grandfather's crimes, moshe.
Maybe SR or Anarchists or even another royal family would be better result, certainly the civil war would happen differently. If a different royal family killed the Tsar there wouldn't be a civil war at all. But this is pure speculation at the end of the day
Romanovs, clinging to the French Absolutist traditions that they admired didn't realize that there was a volcano erupting right from beneath their feet. They successfully dodged anti-absolutist reforms for a century, but all that did is make the final eruption ten times worse for them.
He is arab, anon
Bolsheviks ended famines.
Jewish technicality: dead people can’t starve.
A lot of what Bolsheviks did was based on imperial academic blueprints. Their entire movement wasn't even capable of doing anything against the emperor, they just crawled out of the woodwork once the February revolution happened and they positioned themselves in opposition to the regular socdems.
The social problem of Russia was that it was overflown with radicals brainwashed by cheap promises of free shit and liberties, and the war exacerbated the problem beyond any recovery. The so called "quick change" in the eyes of the Bolsheviks turned out to be, uhh, killing radical terrorists through radical terror of their own. That's pretty much why they won, because they recognized that if only the power that can crank up the retardation to 11 can survive, politically and physically, in those conditions.
The civil war was inevitable. The UK wanted it.
goes door to door and take everyone's food to the last crumb of bread piece
they starve
we dindu nothing!
let's ignore for a moment how retarded the ideology is that it can kill millions so casually that anyone can even make argument it wasn't intentional with a straight face, saying holodomor wasn't targeted genocide and "just" a commie mismanagement is like saying holocaust wasn't intentional but merely plumbing error
that if only
*that only
I'm more of a Stalinist than a bolshevik. But Lenin was able to win the civil war and that was his main contribution. But what did you expect? that Stalin would take the country from being on the verge of collapse to an industrial super power without breaking an egg?
Well there is no direct evidence for either, because Hitler kept a tight lip about it, Himmler mentioned it briefly during party session (just the location of the camps, nothing specific) and Hitler exploded at him that he should never mention again. But Hitler did at least say things that imply that there was "solving" of a problem going on, how the jewish, untermensch (slavic, gypsy) question needed to desperately need solving by any means neccessary
While Stalin or any government official never said that. Nobody said "there needs to be a solution about Ukrainian question by any means possible". Actually, Rosa Luxembourg said that, she criticized Lenin for not outright killing Ukrainian nationalists, but she died a long time ago. Ukraine was basically created by Lenin to begin with
Their entire movement wasn't even capable of doing anything against the emperor
That is why they were funded by him. Though Lenin didn't know that
Rosa Luxembourg said that, she criticized Lenin for not outright killing Ukrainian nationalists
The old hag was right. Russia is paying the price today for allowing these animals to survive.
The holohoax is soviet propanganda to have a whataboutism against the real holodomor
Ukraine was basically created by Lenin to begin with
ukraine is successor state to countries older than russia itself
Well there is no direct evidence for either, because Hitler kept a tight lip about it, Himmler mentioned it briefly during party session (just the location of the camps, nothing specific) and Hitler exploded at him that he should never mention again. But Hitler did at least say things that imply that there was "solving" of a problem going on, how the jewish, untermensch (slavic, gypsy) question needed to desperately need solving by any means neccessary
wannsee conference?
Genrikg Yagoda
Lazar Kaganovich
and who else?
Communist indifference is exactly the reason why the shoah of chosen piggers is a complete bullshit
was caused by retarded bolshevik policies,
It was a jew, Lazar Kaganovich, you faggot
The holodohoax myth started around the 50's when the west became anti USSR.
Another lie from you, kike. Picrel is from a public protest in 1933 while the genocide was happening.
Stalin's rule is a post-revolution creation. Your deterministic view on this decades (century+) long shitshow can be expanded and lead back again to the revolution itself.
Arguably, the diplomacy of the Bolsheviks could be better. I mean, check pic related. Though, also arguably, the Soviet paranoia of the British had led to the militaristic industrialization back in the late 20s in the first place.
The Bolsheviks were pretty much a dying breed by January 1917. They genuinely were on a path of giving up and focusing on writing books somewhere in Switzerland or the NYC.
Yagoda is already rehabilitated. Yezhov is the only NKVD-ist that wasn't rehabilitated yet because he killed more than Beria and Yagoda combined and it is not even close
The Bolsheviks were pretty much a dying breed by January 1917. They genuinely were on a path of giving up and focusing on writing books somewhere in Switzerland or the NYC.
Not dying, they were never really alive. Lenin did not expect a revolution to happen in his lifetime because Marx always said that communism will happen in industrialized advanced economies
Arguably, the diplomacy of the Bolsheviks could be better. I mean, check pic related. Though, also arguably, the Soviet paranoia of the British had led to the militaristic industrialization back in the late 20s in the first place.
Paranoia of the British is not a Bolshevik specific policy. Russian Empire was like that too, except under last Romanov because of brief WWI alliance. And of course, the British feared of revolution spreading and aided the White Army, angering the reds.
Don't forget that the anglo-judeo west tried to sabotage Stalin's reforms with the help of Trotsky and Bukharin. Even up to 1937 they were trying to coup Stalin. Trotsky also worked with the nazis to do this.
Beria
He didn't kill or rape anyone. Another complete myth made up to slander him after Stalin died.
Russians didn't lost any civilians in WW2
It started when Germans forced the weak russian faggots to accept our demands of a free Ukraine giving Ukrainians a founding mythos and when we lost WWI and Soviets took whole Ukraine shortly after anyway the Ukrainians protested rightfully anything the faggot russians wanted to push on them with their retarded communism even when it meant killing your own cattle and burn crops instead of it getting confiscated and that ensured the faggot russians would go full holocaust on them.
This treaty was agreed by Trotsky who was a German agent. Lenin was mad as hell at Trotsky for it. Of course Lenin would be killed by Fanny Kaplan not long after that.
Jews are not Russians.
wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Faustschlag
Faggot russians should be glad we did not take all of Russia and we were so lenient instead.
The fact that they've purposefully exterminated the asians early sells it as a deliberate famine.
All evidence points towards it either way.
I want to pretend it happened becouse hohols deserve it, just like Bucha
The next you'll fuck with them will be the end of Germany but this time forever.
fake and holodomor
Faggot germany should be glad we did not take all of germany and we were so lenient instead.
How reliable is the Ukraine's holodomor history?
90% is BS. they use real names but all history, what and how it happened is pure brain shit invented by some low educated SS Galicia division retard in Canada. later they moved all BS to Ukraine and there they started to fake documents and archives to the fake story. This is why you will get very very different history when reading Russian or Kazakhstan files and documents.
Yeah it's totally the brainwashing and not all the atrocities.
You can be reasonably sure, that whatever RT says, the opposite is true
Usa did that all alone singlehandedly like Stalin Zhukov and Khrushchev themselves confirmed that officially.
I haven't seen a single truth in our glorious westoid media forever though so where are we supposed to get our information?
Molotov-Ribbentrop was the only virtuous thing they did, though
get raked, nigger
Israeli flag denies Holodomor
I'm shocked I tell you.
jpost.com
"Starvation in Ukraine was brought about in order to reduce the number of Ukrainians, resettle in their place people from another part of the USSR, and in this way kill all thought of independence" a quote by a communist known as prokopenko in may 1934. Sovetskaia derevnia glazami VChK-OGPU-NKVD, vol.3, bk. 2, 1932-1934, Moscow, 2005, p.572. The "Special Report" of the Secret- Political Department of the OGPU is dated 12 may 1934
Maybe from reality
Anyone with a window
Moscow had borrowed a great deal of money in the west,especially in Germany, to finance its industrialization, and it could repay its loans only by selling grain. The Soviets were financing their program of industrialization with short term loans which they paid off by exporting wheat. Between 1926 and 1930 Britain lent between 30 and 40 million pounds to Germany. The Germans kept a percentage for themselves and passed the credits on to the Soviet Union, which used them to purchase goods,principally heavy machinery, in Germany. Britain was thus financing Germany's export trade with the Soviet Union. (66) A serious public campaign to alleviate the famine by returning the grain to those who needed it most would,therefore, have brought about a reduction of Soviet grain exports,and that in turn, would have upset the international banking system, in which London had such a great stake. (67)
(66) R. Boothby, Conservative MP, speaking at the Congress of Peace and Friendship with the USSR in London in December 1935. Britain and the Soviets: The Congress of Peace and Friendship with the USSR (London: Martin Lawrence, 1936),
My windows doesn't display shit happening outside of my small neighbourhood.
Even our local media constantly lies about our local happenings.
(67) In a memorandum on the solvency of the Soviet government, G.P. Paton, the commercial counselor of the British embassy in Moscow, revealed in June 1932 that the Soviet Government was not able to pay the bills that would mature in Germany in October 1932. In October -December 1931 Soviet bills amounted to 40 million marks, but a year later the Soviet government would be faced with bills totaling 165 million marks. " If all reports regarding this year's sowing are true." wrote Paton, " the prospects of a bumper crop are very remote, and wheat acreage is up all over the world. The Consensus of opinion, in fact, is that Soviet Russia will be fortunate if it can produce sufficient grain to meet domestic requirements; and that exports, if any, will be relatively insignificant as compared with the past 2 years. Assuming this forecast to be true, where is the Soviet government to find the wherewithal to pay the bills maturing in Germany from October onwards? And what of the bills maturing in other countries?" FO.371/16323 N 3840
It was caused by the policies of the Tsars.
There was not a single famine that caused death by starvation during the reign of the last Tsar.
The Foreign Office and the Famine. British Documents on Ukraine and the Great Famine of 1932–1933 (1988)
Edited by Marco Carynnyk, Lubomyr Y.Luciuk and Bohdan S. Kordan
vey wrote in a letter to Henderson in march 1930 that the encouraging of British exports to the Soviet Union was a "pressing matter." Britain's policy, he gathered, was "to maintain correct and friendly relations with the Soviet Government, with a view to encouraging trade as much as possible." Ovey then discussed ways of increasing exports to the soviet union. "That we buy commodities from Russia," he wrote, "arises principally from the fact that it is the cheapest market." The Soviet ability to buy from Britain depended on its ability to sell to Britain. " The more Russia sells to us the more she should be sympathetically inclined ceteris paribus to buy from us," Ovey concluded.(63)
(63) woodward and Butler, eds.,Documents on British Foreign Policy 7: 111-12
Carynnyk, Lubomyr Y.Luciuk and Bohdan S. Kordan
Those all sound like British surnames.
The Holodomor was real, the "Holocaust" Wasn't.
Russian used it as propaganda like the rest of the allies to justify their war and abuse of the German civil population.
Did you miss the part where I specifically mentioned that most of the victims of that particular famines were russians? If it's genocide, it's genocide against russians. And considering how much minorities were in charge of Soviet Union, they can now start paying the reparations, starting with Ukraine of course.
OP is state sponsored propaganda
tiktok gets s tier propaganda
/pol gets nigger tier
SOLZHENITSYN: "They are lying. We know they are lying. They know that we know they are lying. And yet, they keep lying."
The Austrian royal councilor Sigismund von Herberstein described in his report Rerum Moscoviticarum Commentarii (Notes on Muscovite Affairs) his observations during his travels in Moscow in 1517 and 1526. He stated that homosexuality was present among all social classes.[7][8] The English poet George Turberville who visited Moscow in 1568 when Ivan IV ruled Russia during a bloody phase, was not shocked by the carnage, but about the open homosexuality of the Russian peasants.[9] Adam Olearius also reported that homosexuality among men existed on all levels of society and was not treated as a crime.[10] There are also reports of homosexual relationships between women.
Under the reign of Peter the Great in the 18th century, who introduced a wide range of reforms aimed at modernizing and Westernizing Russia, male homosexual activity was banned only for soldiers in military statutes. In 1832, the criminal code included Article 995, which stated that "muzhelozhstvo", or men lying with men, was a criminal act punishable by exile to Siberia for up to five years. Men lying with men was interpreted by courts as meaning anal sex. Application of the laws was rare, and the turn of the century found a relaxation of these laws and a general growing of tolerance and visibility.
In the wake of the October Revolution, the Bolshevik government decriminalized homosexuality. The Bolsheviks rewrote the constitution and "produced two Criminal Codes – in 1922 and 1926 – and an article prohibiting homosexual sex was left off both."[1] The new Communist Party government removed the old laws regarding sexual relations, effectively legalising homosexual activity within Russia
You would think that this suffering that you and the ukranians share where your ancestors where sacrificed to keep the russians in the cities fed would unite you somehow.
Instead you hate them because they managed to get their side recognized as a genocide while your side gets marginalized by your rulers.
how reliable is Ukraine's Holohoax history?
Russians have no shame.
No they are into revisionism.
Grim.
Yep
Is a generational thing, war, postwar, first as a tragedy then as a farce
HOW IS THE WAR
IN UKRAINE
ARE YOU WINNING???
IS THIS
THE WINNING ANONS???
LOLOLMAOO
hey anon your screenshot is fake. I looked up the origins of this rabbi. He never said this.
jews did it
safe to assume any quote without citations is fake.
Canadian Douglas Tottle did a 1987 book denying the Ukraine starvation 'Holodomor', as based on a mish-mash of Hitler-Nazi propaganda plus Hearst media fanatic anti-Bolshevism
Tottle's 'Fraud, Famine, and Fascism: The Ukrainian Genocide Myth', is free online here
rationalrevolution.net
hohols destroyed their own livestock and grain to protest collectivized farming policies. in the midst of a bad harvest. they literally starved themselves.
this is quite real - here's updated link
Chabad's famous leader Rebbe Schneerson reported as predicting in 1994 that a Russia-Ukraine war would be stoked to mass-slaughter Slavic males, and make room for Jews in a 'new Khazaria' ... Slavic males reportedly considered by Chabad's leader, to be the most resistant of all white men to Jewish impositions, and therefore best liquidated.
The material was published in Russia in 2001 in the newspaper 'Slavyanin'. There was prosecution of the editor, V. F. Popov, for 'hate speech' by Putin's early regime, but the effort failed on grounds it was factual publication of what leading Jews said, and Russian intellectuals came to Popov's defence.
From the longer version - 2nd link below
It is an undeniable fact that almost all the goals set out by Schneerson have now been achieved. This speech is simply the application of the Talmud to Ukraine and Russia.
1994 Chabad Schneerson updated link
henrymakow.com
jew involved aswell. everything you need to know.
SOLZHENITSYN
lol
The same author of the myth 'rape of Belgium'?
Well not Hohols, but Kulaks, aka the upper class of Hohols
They would have starved either way if they gave in and let Soviets confiscated all food which was meant for cities far away.
owned 1 cow so you're a kulak
No wonder Czechs wanted to get away from you gypsies the first chance they've got.
These are two different instances. Confiscation was during the civil war. Collectivization means that large farmers (medium by west standards) would loose the land they have and it would be given to a collective of farmers.
I don't think it was like this. Mistakes happened but in general Kulaks and those labeled as them were only a small minority of all farmers. But they had the most land
Bullshit.
Everyone was a kulak who was looking wrong at a Jewish nkvd nigger and then of course having quotas for exterminating kulaks because muuuh 5 years plan is perfect and we'll calculated.
All nonsense and Ukraine had the most farmers but stalin wanted to destroy their separatism too which meant forced genocide.
Don't look at who instigated that "separatism" (it's you).
So it is just a coincidence that all wealthy farmers were dispossessed? Not to mention that at the same time, the Synagogues were mass-destroyed all over Russia
True
So a commie
Kulaks were russians who started becoming capitalist, aka thought for themselves.
It's pretty obvious that commies aka retarded "let's kill the rich and everything will be great" were just jealous of people who thought by themselves.
Ukraine had the highest share of Kulaks.
Jealousy implies greed. Aka someone who is jealous of the rich wants himself to be rich. But the bolsheviks were not rich. So the correct word is wrath, not envy, not jealousy
"Special Report"
The holodomor was a horrible atrocity that killed 11 million jews.
The fuck is Bobby Lee doing there?
A lot of commies were poor dvoryane, aka former middle or even upper class.
Peasants just went with "for everything good against everything bad" because yea commies know how to lie I'll give them that.
First they say, peasant, use your rifle against the capitalists.
Then they say, peasant, if you have a rifle, give it to the red army they'll protect you.
And in the end it's, peasant only white army collaborators will hide rifles.
What the fuck? did they fuck up the history classes in Ukraine?
Kazakhstan was a member of the USSR! China had the second highest death toll after the USSR during the war, the Chinese theater of WW2 was a deadly one, Vietnam - The Japanese invaded French Indochina.
What the fuck is this slop? its not even good slop, its shit slop, she is not even that hot to justify it, fuck
do you still believe gorillas and pandas are real?
Instead you hate them because they managed to get their side recognized
We hate them because they kill our people, live on our land and exist at our expense
Anon, i dont know from what part of russia you are, and if you are part of one of those groups that where moved around by the soviets to dislocate them.
But please read a history book on the history of the place that is now called ukraine and how russia grew out of it.
mostly regular russians
You mean regular meat grinder food? Boleshevik just means ethnic cleanser to anyone with brains. The fact your streets are still named after ethnic cleansers and celebrated is quite something. The current conflict is just keeping tradition for 'regular Russians going into the meat grinder'. Zelensky wants a big isreal like most comedians installed.
if bolshevik is an ethnic cleanser then stop calling people who want state enterprises bolsheviks if you don't want us supporting them
it's hylydymyr
because grain was requisitioned to support the cities.
Was requisitioned for export, and farmers were protesting because they were not being paid, not because they didnt want to send the grain
Forgot to put on your memeflag, rabbi
he is Arab, retard
Some more detail:
Farmers have no problem in sending grain to cities, abroad, to export or to whoever. Their bussiness is to sell grain and Stalin's business was to sell grain to get cash to buy european and american machinery required for their industrialization.
Stalin however decided to pay fixed prices to farmers despite several years of hyper inflation. Farmers were being ordered to give their crops essentially for free. They refused, then came the crackdown. Farmers were simply killed, their crops were not sent to cities, nor planted, nor exported. Then came the famine because the farmers were killed.
This was because Stalin did not want to pay the farmers. Later leaders of the USSR had a policy of just printing whatever money the farmers asked.