Trump signed an Executive Order for first self-deportation program in U.S history
How do you feel about this, anon?
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We should buy them all plane tickets to the UK and Canada.
Worth a shot but I doubt it works. They need to tax remittances, go hard after employers, absolutely cut off any benefits and start issuing sever penalties that make life hell for illegals
GO BACK
Free flight
and Americans will pay for it lmao
there is not such thing as FREE - MAGAtards
I propose a new business venture. I smuggle you in the states you then self deport for money. I will immediately smuggle you back in for a price. Then you immediately self deport for money. 50% off for every 5th smuggling operation.
My southern California town has lost ~20% of the illegals already.
Many will take this opportunity.
Many more when the economy tanks.
But coming out of that downturn will be the most prosperous economy in history.
I will personally volunteer to pack their bags.
I will drive them to the airport.
it takes a village anon.
we're happy to help
and Americans will pay for it lmao
We're paying for their free health care right now.
Worth a shot but I doubt it works. They need to tax remittances, go hard after employers, absolutely cut off any benefits and start issuing sever penalties that make life hell for illegals
its orders of magnitude cheaper to make them self deport.
The logistical challenges of mass deportation are insurmountable without a whole-of-society approach. We'd lose our stomach for it before we got half way done.
This is better.
This will work.
When the economy really tanks they'll flee.
them being in the USA for a year cost more than a one time flight cost
AYY LMAO
Illegals contribute to the economy, dummy. The vast majority contribute more in economic terms than they consume through free ridership on public services. Most illegals are afraid to use those public services because they think it'll get them deported.
Fuck off.
It could cost a million dollars a deportation. I do not fucking care. They have to go. We are being extremely magnanimous providing them this opportunity. Since we have, those who did not take our offer will be subject to being beaten within an inch of their life then bussed to the middle of the desert fifty miles over the border and dumped in the middle of the desert. They can walk from there just like they walked into the US from whatever shithole they crawled out of. They can go the easy way or the hard way. I would volunteer to help facilitate the hard way. I'll beat the men and rape the (young, attractive) women. And beat the old dumpy ugly women.
just continue to exploit these slaves
eat shit, your slaves are going home.
What county is that aggressive? I know it ain't LA county. Orange County couldnt be it either.
Illegals contribute to the economy
they don't pay tax and strain infrastructure lying nigger
Radical change brungs radical conditions. Sometimes you gotta rip it all down to build it back. Good times created strong men. Time for hard times to create strong men. The Great Depression would have been a lot easier with the internet, cell phones, and RVs.
free flight home and $1000
sounds pretty good, if I was mexican I'd cross the bordef just for the bounty.
French President Emmanuel Macron, German Chancellor Friedrich Merz, British and Polish Prime Ministers Keir Starmer and Donald Tusk have issued a joint call for Russia to agree to a full and unconditional 30-day ceasefire and pledged increased support for Ukraine. A joint statement by the four leaders was published on the British government website.
"We, the leaders of France, Germany, Poland and the United Kingdom, will stand in Kyiv in solidarity with Ukraine against Russia's barbaric and illegal full-scale aggression. We reiterate our support for President Trump's calls for a peace agreement and call on Russia to stop obstructing efforts to secure a lasting peace. Together with the United States, we call on Russia to agree to a full and unconditional 30-day ceasefire to create space for negotiations on a just and lasting peace," the statement said.
The politicians declared their readiness to "support peace talks as soon as possible, discuss the technical implementation of the ceasefire regime and prepare for the conclusion of a full-fledged peace agreement."
"We are clear: the bloodshed must stop, Russia must stop its illegal invasion, and Ukraine must be allowed to develop as a safe, secure and sovereign state within internationally recognized borders for generations to come. We will continue to increase our support for Ukraine. Until Russia agrees to a lasting ceasefire, we will increase the pressure on the Russian war machine," the leaders of France, Germany, Poland and the UK said.
They also plan to hold a virtual meeting with President Zelenskyy "to update other leaders on progress in forming a future coalition of air, land, sea, and reconstruction forces that will help rebuild the Ukrainian Armed Forces after any peace agreement and build confidence in the future peace."
All of this because we're afraid to ask rich people to pay their fair share. Funny money elites manipulate money in obtuse ways, purchase politicians to give them sweetheart deals, and refuse to share in the fruits of YOUR labors. They strike you and your response is to go after poorer people because they sold you a race war to stop you from fighting the class war they're waging on you -- the class war they're STILL going to wage on you after you finish gassing the spics.
but wait anon, we're not going to gas the spics, only deport them!
What, you think the holocaust was a genocide from the get-go? Hitler first wanted to deport the Jews. Deportation proved a logistical nightmare so the plan then became work/internment camps. Even that became too difficult to clothe and feed and guard a massive amount of people. So finally, they just started killing them -- not wholly out of ideological/ethnic fervor but because they weren't seen as humans.
Logistics drive absolutely everything. The logistic task of deporting tens of millions is mind-bendingly complex. Right now, we're falling into the same trap: an underestimation of our logistical undertaking, a sense of secrecy against discovery of what our government is doing to these people behind closed doors, and dehumanization. None of these things are flashy or dramatic. Genocides rarely happen with pomp or ceremony. They happen slowly and quietly and to an extent that it's forever lurking just beneath the conscious awareness of the common people. We are no less vulnerable to it now than we were 80 short years ago.
and then the magatards will work for free too!
LMAO!
The logistical challenges of mass deportation are insurmountable without a whole-of-society approach. We'd lose our stomach for it before we got half way done.
It wouldn't have to be the whole society but a group, perhaps a new department or a bug hire and training effort, of citizens handling deportation. Also why would we lose our stomach halfway through? What an odd thing to say. You realize if you pay people to do something, they'll do it. Hire angry young men who need a job and purpose. You'll raise a rather heartless army who will laugh at little spic kids crying after they knocked daddy's teeth out for being too lippy as they head towards the border. Lose the stomach. Men would volunteer to do this for free right now in society. You have no idea of how good this could be.
If it's free it's a mission and a crusade. I think we could build a rather vicious army if you paid angry jobless young men $25/hr, gave them a baton and taser, and pointed at the illegals and tell them these people are why housing is so expensive and they get free food while you starve. See for more details and how you can enlist today!
Also why would we lose our stomach halfway through?
Because people are going to die in the process of deportations. We're going to hold them in camps, be unable to allocate already scarce medical resources, and they're going to get sick and die as they wait for airlift back to their native countries. Food is already going to get more scarce. Starvation is possible. The Trump administration is borderline incompetent and incredibly prone to top-down mismanagement; are we going to see enough infrastructure allocated to help these people literally survive as we prepare to deport them?
People just aren't thinking this through in sufficient detail.
Pipe down, rabbi. Isn't it sabbath? Or is this your shabbos goy speaking for you?
You're not going to win this fight; you're just going to make it so we all lose in the process. I'm sorry you can't get a woman to touch your penis, but there are better ways to go about expressing your dissatisfaction.
It's not the 19th century. America isn't a trip around the fucking world and we live in the 21st century with advanced transportation and technology. Do you think we'll be walking them across the country like cattle? Planes, cars, and busses exist. Hospitals abound. Even temporary structures aren't literal tents. Anyway you picked a stupid angel of attack, like it's this "mind-bendingly" complex process. You can be thousands of miles away in less than a day. Try again.
If the Nazis won then the Nazis would have won. Maybe the jews should have gotten the hint and fucked off. Would have saved them a world of grief. Someone wins in a fight, you know. Anyway, you have no argument so you go right to saying something about how I am sexually inadequate, which also isn't an argument. You argue like a woman. And you have nothing else to say.
Barely anyone is going to choose to self deport. It's not going to be an effective regimen, so let's move past that and back into reality: rounding up tens of millions of illegals, holding them in camps, and deporting them with scarce resources. My point, to which to waved vaguely in the direction of Current Year Technology (like busses and cars and... planes and shit, bro!) without engaging with the logistical reality of keeping millions fed, housed, with medical attention, and from escaping as you process them for deportation.
My point is that this is an unrealistic proposition. You cannot just stand up an organization designed to physically handle and care for millions of people. You have to figure out housing, food and water distribution, medical care, sanitation. This is enormously complex at scale, and it has to be at scale.
People will die. We'll lose our stomach for it and in the process defame our national identity and likely inflict a generational trauma on ourselves.
This dude is so retarded. Who the fuck is going to do that? He's already failing hilariously at his mass deportation. All they need to do is lay low until this idiot is out of office and a Democrat or someone who doesn't care nearly as much comes into presidency.
tens of millions
It's a bug country with a lot of people and space. You don't and can't do it all at once. Also I think self-deportations will pick up if forced deportations pick up. Again, what scarce resources are you on about? We have nothing but resources here. Also, why would we be housing them? Planes will get them where they're going real quick. Your argument only works in the small, weak, unpopulated world with no technology and scarce resources that you constructed to make your argument work. Amd that we'll suddenly be doing it all at once. And it will only be done in this imaginary way that - again - only you are arguing. You may be young or not well-traveled.
There's some Streisand effect shit that's going to happen, too. I wouldn't be surprised if and when a Democrat gets back into the office the new President takes an equally radical stance... from the other direction. The most maddeningly stupid failure of MAGA is its naive impunity. MAGA sincerely believes that it is pushing towards a permanent victory after which they will be permanently in power and with a government completely inoculated against any further change. There's no other word for this naive optimism but stupidity.
I wouldn't be surprised to see all remaining illegals legitimized after Trump.
If you let the spics call themselves white they'll do whatever you ask. Import spics to deport the pakis and poos, then import someone else to deport the spics.
Self deport or get deported by force, their choice it don't matter to me as long as housing prices come down.
I hope something happens. I seriously want to see the 20,000 Haitian niggers in my city get deported. I'm tired of seeing these shitskins every time I'm in Lowe's or Home Depot.
Based
Also, he was talking about bringing back farm workers and hotel workers.
nbcnews.com
Again, what scarce resources are you on about?
Planes, nonmedical labor, medical supplies and labor, food, water. All of these things are scarce in a classical sense (as well as in a practical sense for the first three).
I'm talking about doing this all at once and quickly because that's the only option you have. Midterms are coming up and if you haven't noticed there's a storm brewing on the left. Your sole option to create any kind of lasting immigration process involves quick, decisive action before the public can even become fully aware of the extent and the inevitable human tragedies we're creating.
The logistics don't bear out anything else, and this approach requires years of planning and preallocation of resources. It requires massive amounts of work and preparation. You can pretend otherwise -- and you will -- which is why we're going to lose our stomach for it: anything this administration does is likely to be plagued by incompetence. This incompetence and cruelty will result in deaths if pursued.
It's a pipe dream.
people will die
you vastly underestimate how much people are apathetic to illegals and bums. they'll walk right past a bum dying from an od with no problem. hell, they video it for views.
we dont have the resources to do it
yes, we do. you're just mad it's happening.
Because people are going to die in the process of deportations.
Should have taken the deal.
Food is already going to get more scarce. Starvation is possible.
LMAO. Give them some bags of dried beans, they know what to do with them
People just aren't thinking this through in sufficient detail.
“Let’s build a house” “But you haven’t even picked the wallpaper yet!” Fuck off with this dishonest shit. You fuckers created this mess, with the intention of making a solution “impossibly complex”. Well guess what shitbird, we’re cleaning it up whether you like it or not, maybe keep your head down yeah?
The job of the media, for better and for worse, is to highlight the moral complexities that average people can't understand on their own. You're not wrong that most people are dumb and ignorant when left to their own devices, but when the media starts covering these things, they package it in ways people can understand -- they're pretty good at it... sometimes too good and in service of selfish goals, but good at it. This is a big part of why Bannon views the media not as an obstacle but as a crystallized enemy; in its primary function, it shines a light on power and offers citizens a view alternative to that which the government wants you to believe. Bannon believes his goals will be better served by a media ecosystem too busy choking on shit to turn the lights on.
the media will make them care
good luck. apathy is the hardest thing to break. especially after trying to demoralize for 16 years straight.
Holy fuck the level of thought here is fucking frustrating. It's not that we categorically "don't have resources." It's that resources take planning and competence to correctly apply. This is because a facility designed to hold millions of people while ensuring their survival is not something you just buy at Walmart and put on a plot of land. It is a massive logistical undertaking, especially because everything is scarce and every allocation of these scarce resources comes attached to an opportunity cost.
people dying
the moral complexities that average people can't understand on their own
God complex anon, did you maybe get confused between this thread and one on the palestinian genocide or something?
My awareness of the general ignorance of the average person was hard-won. It was a cold shower when I finally and fully understood that most people alive don't interface with reality in anything close to the way I do.
yiu can't just build large facilities
yes, you can. within months, too. ever heard if prefabricated housing? no? well, it's an industry that American exels at. it's a house built in a factory. now, during ww2, we made prefabricated factories and sent them to rural Russia, mainly in the ural mountains. within months.
tldr, yes we can.
there is no reason to house millions of criminal aliens at once. “We” would simply “reallocate resources” from roundup duty to getting-them-the-fuck-out-of-out-country duty
That is the easiest, most basic logistic problem (although it's still far less trivial than you're trying to pretend it is in your ignorance). How do we make sure they all get food? Where does the food come from? What are the fallback providers? How about water? Who runs the water trucks? You're going to need more than one contractor -- humans drink a huge amount of water every day. Where are they going to get medical attention? How are you going to hire doctors and nurses? From where do you source essential medications? How about sanitation? What's your plan there? We are talking at scale about MILLIONS of people. "Bro it'll be fine, just don't worry," is not a convincing logistical proposition.
how de they get food
we can get a burger king up and running in a foreign country thousands of miles away within 48 hours. to add, we have 50 states with plenty of food and water between them
we literally feed China, for example and produce 33% of the world wheat
im just unsure what the problem is? we absolutely can do it. we supplied the city of Berlin via airplanes for literally weeks/ months.
You're just not willing at all to concede even the slightest point, are you? As I said earlier, this is why we will lose our stomach for this crazy mass deportations plan: because the people doing the planning think at the exact same precision as you do. They are all as ideologically driven and very much swirling down the purity spiral. There's no point in continuing this conversation unless you stop pretending you have the slightest clue what you're talking about.
hurrr we can get a BURGER KANG up!!!!
Fucking unreal lmao
you just won't concede the point, huh
there's nothing to concede. we absolutely can do it with no issue. and again, you vastly underestimate the power of modern apathy. the population has had the Gaza genocide shit shoved in their faces for years now, and they dont fucking care. I still fail to see a problem, and you dont seem able to provide one, either.
No. A lot of the insufferable posts come from Pajeets and migrants. The English aren't at fault, Samir. It was never the English. I don't think it was the majority of jews, either fwiw. Rather, I think it's some wealthy individuals. People with a lot of connections in the banking and corporate world behind this. I say we send all of them to the countries and counties of the people pushing for cheap labor. They'll love it! Sure, some of them may be rapists, drug dealers or human traffickers. But think of the profits!
Sort of the strategy he took for federal employees
I would also like to add how "i" think is how the majority are thinking. you can say it's not, but the deportations are universally loved and trump won the popular vote. it's the people mandate that spics have to go home.
It costs the taxpayer either way
I was at a police station in a rich area and a homeless guy was tweaking out in the lobby asking to talk to an officer. Cop walks out and asks him where he wants to go, he says Florida (across the country). Cop tells him he'll get the plane ticket set up and to come back tomorrow for it. Rich cities have been handling their problems like this for a long time. Other states buy them bus tickets to California.
Hopefully there are no connecting flights or this will be abused, beaners will just get free flights and walk out of the airport during their connecting flight. It should be a stipulation that it must be a direct flight.
Trumpo even says "you can go anywhere in the world just not here"
This is brilliant after the scare campaign of sending the criminals to El Salvador's prison. They should be jumping ship to other countries they want to try their monkey bullshit in. Sorry bros but you have to elect leaders who will do the same as us.
They can choose the country? How many do you think are going to take a free trip to Japan to live out their weeb dreams on a thousand dollars?
and then get put onto a plane to El Salvador instead
and then the magatards will work for free too!
if you do what you love, you'll never work a day in your life