Why there is no opioid epidemic in Europe?

US was targeted , especially White rural areas by the Sackler family ( yes Neo ) by pushing legal pain killers as non addictive. They knew Whites in rural areas had no one looking after their welfare. They found docs who would presvribe freely and kept them supplied. Addiction was their business model.
Not one Sackler went to prison. They made 13 billion. Paid an 8 billion dollar fine. Considering all the death they are responsible for its amazing they can live safely anywhere. Politicians put in place hard restrictions after 30 or so years, there was already an epidemic of addiction so as legal drugs became hard to get , addicts turned to the street.

Our doctors did not prescribe opioids against every minor pain like the US doctors did after they were bribed to do so by the ruthless pharma industry.

why indeed

Cognac is not popular where you live?

Estonia are beating Scotland? That's embarrassing.

holy fucking shit....

idk about other european countries but we had crazy drug crisis back in the 90s and early 2000s it was crazy, also in Madeira its kinda bad

American doctors are criminals.

masonic semites that are brown, turks with j33ts and saudis...

The high % from France, Germany and England is because of the niggers there. Which is odd because we have a good amount of niggers but they don't do drugs to the same extent, maybe it's because the Mafia keeps them on a tight leash.

What's wrong with E*tonia?

Yep, nobody even cares, most of the fines went to states for drug rehabilitation admnd vanished, basically a bribe.

i dont know, but im pretty sure who is getting blamed for it

Yes i heard about it. Portugal did an amazing job handling it. Switzerland also had an heroin crisis that they managed it well too.

Holland drugs capital of Europe

Only 1 per 100K OD deaths

Wut

Because the CIA has not found it worth it to target us yet. But there are certain things that are developing in Bulgaria and the Balkans, that come exclusively from Turkey. And I don't think that the turks are smart enough to produce them on their own.

Be damned, my little ponies!

coke and weed. finland is mostly meth and weed.. opioids are biggest killer like fentanyl

There's no opioid epidemic here either. The only drugs people use are crack, cocaine, weed, mollies and whippit.

American hicks are also dumb as bricks compared to the average euro.

Cognac is not popular where you live?

Not sure. There are some cheap brandy, which enjoys popularity.
As I have genetic inclination towards alcoholism, decided not to drink alcohol at all. So a lot of nuances in life of alcoholics slips past unnoticed.

be american

go to doctor

I have minor backpains

ofc sir, you will get the strongest opiod I have

become addicted

lose job

can't afford approved opiods anymore

has to get black market opiods

fucking dies

We have a severe Mafia situation here and this country is a major drug smuggling player in the region, yet we have 0.2 for some reason. I don't believe both numbers, to be honest.

yeah you can buy our stuff and look on reviews on dopek.eu a polish forum.

>I have minor backpains

>ofc sir, you will get the strongest opiod I have

Do American doctors aware that pain isn't a source of illness, but its symptom?

Those are overdose deaths. Not drug consumption.
As long as you have predictable quality, with predictable active indegridient concentration, you are golded. Those overdose spikes arrise when on "streets" arrive drugs with different levels of purity. When guys who were adjusted to lower purity, suddenly gets more concentrated one, and kicks the bucket, because now there are 18x more "kick" in that dosage.

*XTC and speed
Coke is only popular on the Zuidas

this is the chinese methor of making k2/spice/synthetic cannabinoids.

damn hungary is quite balanced, I thought beer would overshadow everything

We are at war with kikes and their golem taco niggers. We will avenge those who are fallen.

they get kickbacks for handing out meds like candy from pharma companies.
There is a legit legal drugs to illegal drugs pipeline in the USA.

How come you are sandwiched between two countries that have a much higher overdose rate?

Burger doctors know only to say yes to whatever drug their pharma overlords tell them to prescribe.

Only two drugs have a high mortality in europe: injectables, which are mostly a Russia-Ukraine-Belarus thing, and Cocaine. Estonia turned into a freakish neoliberal capital of Europe with all of their e-citizenship bullshit so it attracted coke fiends from all over the world.

the fentanyl crisis is largely due to the US retreat from Afghanistan
Most legal and illegal shipments of opiates came from over there, poppies were like 80% of their crop. The Taliban regained control and banned the cultivation of it in favour of food crops and is using the US outposts that were left behind as rehab centers for addicted locals and farmers

meanwhile the EU seems to import more expensive stuff from other countries now and the US for some reason switched to chinese made fentanyl, far more lethal because it's far more potent and difficult to get the dosage right

You have to be a faggot to die from cocaine overdose. It's always fentanyl or similar shit.

That is from official statistics. If there are strong moonshine traditions, then it will not be shown, as it will not be registered in statistics.

Small countries. One bad batch can fuck up statistic quite easily. In Estonia, it is likely linked to incident in Narva few years ago. Have no idea why Lithuania is so high.

Good. Death to burgers.

This whole drug death discussion is dishonest bs. The drug overdose deaths in Germany are 2/100k according to the map. Tobacco related deaths in Germany are about 50/100k.

That's what we hope for, it was a hidden blessing that the US was cut off from afghanistan poppies, since they are now all on the much worse fent.

Tobacco related deaths in Germany are about 50/100k.

dies from lung cancer in his 60s-80s

vs

dies from a fentanyl overdose in his 20s-30s

there is a massive difference here dude and it's not even close.

Because in europe it's losers who take drugs and it's not socially acceptable.
In the US it is normalized to take drug (legal or illegal).
Overall , social pressure is working to keep weak minded drug addicts in check.

Imagine being white, seeing a foreign doctor and not going somewhere else like any normal person.
Why did mutts are ok with this ?

Its deadliest non-opioid/opiate drug, though.

SeeThey were Jews and street shitters. Not Americans idc what they're paper work says.

Didn't portugal just legalize it all?

That argument doesn't hold up if the Tobacco related deaths are x25 compared to the overdose drug deaths. Between 100,000 and 120,000 die from Tobacco in Germany.

Its deadliest non-opioid/opiate drug, though.

pretty sure this crown goes to alcohol

a) opiods are kind of a unicorn drug here
while we have tons of meth and coke style drugs, opiods are surprisingly hard to get even in "drug dens" like frankfurt.
b) the fewer people who take those drugs the fewer this drug specific deaths occur
c) actually look up the age of "so called" tobacco related deaths. you are very EXTREMLY unlikely to die from tobacco while you are below 50 years of age.
people who die above that age, are kind of irellevant in the grand scheme of things desu (in special the older ones dying earlier is a net benefit to society).
Meanwhile fentanyl kills you regardless of age.

Decriminalize it, meaning is not legal but we are not going to put you in jail because of it.
But they came up also with social programs that were very effective, most of those drug addicts want to be clean if you think about it.

Only in absolute levels. But yes, alcohol is pretty bad.

Everyone drinks vodka orange or just vodka because it's the cheapest drink.

I guess you've never partied lol

Alcohol is fine

Either this either you will be labeled as a racist and unless you're equipped with a vagina, you're screwed.

I fucking kekd.

Its absolutely not. It has worse abstinence symptoms than most drugs and creates a ton of problems.

people who die above that age, are kind of irellevant in the grand scheme of things desu (in special the older ones dying earlier is a net benefit to society).

Klassischer deutscher Autist. We'll speak when you are fifty, let's see if you view yourself as expendable.

Meanwhile fentanyl kills you regardless of age.

If you view people in these categories, you should acknowledge that the average Opioid junkie isn't exactly a future rocket scientist.

nigga what fent they lace fent with zenes nowdats

Its absolutely not. It has worse abstinence symptoms than most drugs and creates a ton of problems.

Like Finland.

probably because the sackler family is too lazy. cant think of any other reason desu.

Maybe because they realized that living in muttland is miserable even though you're rich

Ireland bro here.

We probably have the best quality and most accessible drugs in Europe, I had some family die of Smack yet every telegram/signal dealer groups am in will never sell it, heroin dealers are the lowest of the low and since we have access to high purity drugs no one is out hunting for skag, prohibition always rebounds to the worst of the worst i.e spice and synthetic opioids. While we do have a deluge of drugs I know for absolute certain my shit is clean, when I was in America though a hit of xtc was 20$ compared to Ireland's 5€. A gram of what would be considered street tier coke in Boston was 150$ whereas pure uncut flake in Dublin averages 80-100€, thus no demand for opioids.

When I was in Tampa I found a plug, no class As just acid, weed etc but cocaine can only be bought from literal Fallout NPCs. In Ireland all my plugs are perfectly normal people doing a side hustle as opposed to hardened criminals. I was asked by work bros there if I could score Adderall or Xanax whereas in EU it'd be coke and ket, you guys need to loosen tf up or else you'll drive everyone to fent

They use fent.

let's see if you view yourself as expendable

ofc the Boomer (and yes I am aware that I will eventually become one) doesn't see himself as expendable, but by almost all metrics they are.

If you view people in these categories, you should acknowledge that the average Opioid junkie isn't exactly a future rocket scientist.

yes and no. Even if we ignore the lkegal to illegal drug pipeline that exists in the USA. But like fentanyl offers almost 0% chance of rehabilitation. So it literally kills potential. If the people who die from that kind of OD had potential in the first place is ofc debateable.

But like can we atleast agree on the point a 20 year old dying from an OD immidetly is not on the same level as a older person dying from lung cancer?

We probably have the best quality and most accessible drugs in Europe

4.1 deaths per 100k inhabitants every week

Yeah, we can tell.

But like can we atleast agree on the point a 20 year old dying from an OD immidetly is not on the same level as a older person dying from lung cancer?

One could argue that the average Opioid user isn't able to hold down a job and even if he survives for a while, he'll always be a financial drain on society and he'll also cause an increase in crime due to Beschaffungskriminalität. Meanwhile the typical smoker just does his job and lives his life, then dies shortly after reaching retirement age, therefore he will be a net positive for the state and he also will have paid many thousand Euros in taxes from buying Tobacco over his lifetime. (Just using your own autism logic against you).

any real MDMA ?

Meanwhile the typical smoker just does his job and lives his life, then dies shortly after reaching retirement age, therefore he will be a net positive for the state and he also will have paid many thousand Euros in taxes from buying Tobacco over his lifetime

yeah that's what I mean as a "net positive"

I'm not arguing on a moralistic/humanistic/individualist level.

One could argue that the average Opioid user isn't able to hold down a job and even if he survives for a while, he'll always be a financial drain on society and he'll also cause an increase in crime due to Beschaffungskriminalität.

yeah that's kind of my point in the first place, why opiods are way worse than tobacco?
Heck even coke users are able to be "functional" for the most part.

opioids are just on another level of destructivness, speaking on a macro level.

on a personal level all drugs are bad, including alcohol.

real MDMA available ? Shrooms ?
Careful in USA , fent is an issue. How bad for real I dont know, not in the scene

Huh, didn't know Eesti had this much of a drug problem

Solid 3f rock of cola Mandy for 50€ Dutch tier so we Gucci, usually only available in festival season at that rate

Mis juhtus Eestiga, eestlane ei ole sober?

Hyvää
youtube.com/watch?v=MzTuj0BnvYw

vodka is pretty great. goes with nearly everything, too. perfect for party and regular use. relatively cheap, too.

I didn't think anyone still drinks vodka except old people

*in Russia.

In other countries vodka doesn't have the stigma of a loser, so they drink it quite a lot.

Turns out Trainspotting was a documentary, who knew?

As a side note in Florida I was offered coke for 50 a G but I knew for a fact that shit was cut. Coke dealers here are scaffolders and electricians if you have face tattoos I know you ain't got the inventory. We've an enthusiasts market super safe here.

balkan niggers are more sober than anyone in europe

How is this possible?

SWIM used to get quality but SWIM gave it up and has no contacts, wouldnt even know how to navigate anymore. . quality Cola is a different animal from the trash . Mandy a few more times could be sweet
Hell, does anybody even use " swim " anymore

As a side note in Florida I was offered coke for >50 a G but I knew for a fact that shit was cut.

quality is like finding that out of the way restaurant few know about

home-made alcohol. it's outside statistics.

The whole "war on drugs" is counter productive.
Legalizing, providing proper education (rather than scaremongering) and offering help to addicts (rather than throwing them in jail) works fantastically but sounds "left wing".

americans are genetically more prone to drug abuse. they have more genetical adhd too

and extraversion. their ancestor were the people who jumped into unknown and move over the sea. they are more prone to risk taking and such because low dopamine, and that also causes the drug addiction proneness

Please be honest with me no matter how harsh it might be, would I be considered mentally ill in your country like how I am considered like in my shithole?

In the rest of Europe it's mostly American tourists who OD thinking heroine is the same as marijuana.

It’s not so bad compared to North America Dam Moldova . Are there drinking contests in Europe? Like beerfest

Because leftoids as retarded as they are actually care about people. Meanwhile mutts sold their soul to corporations to own the libs.

yes, neighbor. drug addicts are not the sharpest to begin with. when they fry their brains even more it's not a pretty picture.

Here we have observed almost forgotten soviet tradition of drinking cheap cologne (odekolon). Ones with high ethanol content (around 70% I guess), and low price.

meanwhile, Australian abos and bums huff petrol

Even Europe's bums are classy compared to ours.

Having known a fair few estonians in my time, studied their culture and history, spent time in Tallinn interacting and observing, its because they're a simple tribe of simple people who settled a swampy peninsula between several other major tribes and then spent the next few millenia getting buttblasted by all of them, leaving an indelible scar on the national psyche and character of them. They are always reserved and shy when you first meet them, then once they figure out you're not going to rape and pillage them the open up and can become quite animated and funny.

When in Tallinn, two of my mates pointed at a big piece of graffiti and said something to each other, I asked them what it said, to which one of them said it's akin to "why estonia?!?!?!" being howled at the universe for unjust treatment. It's a pretty succinct summary of how they feel about their place in the world. They dutifully do their national service but know that if Russia ever did a real invasion it would be a pointless exercise to resist that would end in their genocide. Despite the grim outlook on life most of the ones I met seemed relatively optimistic about life, but that's probably because they were earning a months wage in a week when over here.

Kek.

The ones where spirit consumption is almost at the same level as beer are interesting.

Kek

It's shite being Scottish

I scored 107 on a WAIS-IV IQ test without mentioning my drug use to the psychologist I took the test with

Are you that Bulgarian that has replied to me in the past?

Yes, please stop taking drugs!

no. i'm another anon.
107 IQ is actually decent if real (i have no idea what all those different tests mean) but nothing to write home about, just slightly above average, and the average guy is a retard anywhere in the world.