Why is Italy so irrelevant nowadays?

Why is Italy so irrelevant nowadays?
They were considered one of the main powers in Europe once.

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Name a single empire that lasted forever.

Italian food being great is one of the greatest lies ever told

Uncultured swine

Nobody really likes Italians besides Italians

I'd still preffer it over bong food any day desu. No offense to them but after visitting London, our food tasted like luxury once I flew back to Slovenia. Italy might not have such bad foods too, but being around them is unbearable.

who exactly are you comparing them to? they're still in the top

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I don't know, I like those two Italians on youtube who approve and don't approve stuff. I hate every Italian-American though. Maybe it not Italians themselves, maybe it's something else that makes them like this. I also find that to be true about every other race in America.

You're dumb.

also Vatican City is still in Italy. during the middle ages you would just say they were the same thing even though Italy didn't even exist yet. I think a big part of Italy's lost reputation is just hispanics and arabs stealing all their momentum, so when you say Catholic you think of Guatemala. when you say Ferrari you think of some camel jockey.

also Vatican City is still in Italy

Technically it is its own state.

it's always "technially" with Italians, it is in Italy. everything about Italy is just being generous to brown people to the point everyone forgets Italy exists. Italians seem fine with this so who cares.

Italy is new country. And modern Italians aren't even the same as the old inhabitants. Once Italy stopped being majority White, everything went to literal shit.

the more Lombards and Tuscans are wiped out with forced low birthrate and racial/ethnic replacement, the more this damned 'it*ly' is plunging into nothingness.
If you think that what passed for 'it*ly' can be continued by Siculo-neapolitans, I've got here a nice WW2 lampshade made out of human skin to sell you, Shlomo.

And modern Italians aren't even the same as the old inhabitants.

...hasn't it already been proven that the closest people to Ancestral Romans are Modern Central Italians? This sounds like a poor attempt at trying to justify claiming Ancient Rome as a White achievement while also claiming that Italians are not White.

They were considered one of the main powers in Europe once.

When?

Don't get me wrong, I love Italy and it's people but their value is in the high quality products and food they make, not in their military prowess.

'it*ly'

'it*lians'

imagine thinking these are real things. poltards will never learn: fact.

Imagine being an italian 14 years old kid:

your parents get you a moped, you can ride anywhere like a centaur

each place you go sells you alcohol because they don't give a shit

you can buy cigarettes everywhere

you can legally fuck adults, go to massage parlors for bjs at a 20 euros rate, or fuck from a nigerian prostitute on the street

that's why most italians get tired of partying and being wild soon, we can live the life americans wait desperately to live in our high school years.

Ancient Rome as a White achievement

Yes.

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That's crazy. American kids will turn inside out and explode if they ever tasted that kind of freedom

Italy was browner in ancient time and became whiter when celts and germanics flooded them and mixed with them.

Italian food is great, it's just not the best in the world like they think it is. Italians are even more rabid than the french when it comes to running to their food's defense anytime even the slightest wuestion or criticism is raised

Italy is fine. I mean nobody is doing good but you know what I'm saying.

If the "true" Romans were displaced, it was ironically by Germanic barbarians.

ill drop a little redpill about italy that u prolly havent heard before. italys position in the world is governed by the volcanos that lie under its service. they are at low bubbles right now low magma. during roman empire hayday the magma was high. hence pompeii. ppl think ppl are not affected by tectonics but they are. espeiclaly italians since they were originally babylonian migrants who came there because to them volcanos = baal

Lies. The peninsula was always White, up until recently. It's been the brown hoard moving north, not the other way around.

There is no way Canada is actually that high on the list, literally all they export is lumber, staple crops, and maple syrup and nearly all of it goes to us

why is south italy so poor and north is so rich?
doesnt seem fair since they are same country

Italy was browner in ancient time and became whiter when celts and germanics flooded them and mixed with them

Nigger what.
Its never been so Levantine.

Ahh yes.
Those two well known American dreams of mopeds and skanky African whores???

the terroni are our own albanians, and the south is a Kosovo that doesn't want to secede but everybody in the north is willing to get rid of it

they export oil to you, I don't know how we are so high. Italy makes cars and clothes.

Southern Italy has Balkano-African culture.
Northern Italy is closer to Europe.

They still are

when you're 14 any kind of pussy is a good deal low t. fatass

Oh. Right. This is Anon Babble and I'm being trolled. My bad.
Maybe, but, I mean, wasn't it the Romans who saved Germans from the Huns?

Mediterranean Europe didn't become brown until the centuries of muslim caliphate invasions started, ancient greeks, romans, and even ostrogoths were white

LUV PASTABROS
'ATE BURGERGROIDS
SIMPLE AS

speaking of violent unachiever subhumans
why is italy so full of albanians? at least online I remember them on omegle and similar websites
they all hang albanian flags and are beating their chest like apes and how are they so proud to be albanian (which is weird since that fake country never achieved anything ever in anything)

and i just ask them why dont u go to albania since u love it so much , why live in italy, albania is just across the sea?
they go wild and start cursing me

wasn't it the Romans who saved Germans from the Huns?

It was a Visigothic-Roman alliance at Chalons you fucking españolete.

Alaric, Stilicho and Aetius.

14 year old boys have fucked worse desu

brags about his mobility scooter and only being able to land GRIDS riddled Africans

call anyone else low t and fat

Lol. Lmao, even.

Yeah I actually don't even know what the UK manufactures. I can find Colman's mustard, Cadbury chocolate, and jeffa cakes in groceries here sometimes but I can't really think of anything else you guys export, I'm sure a lot more stuff goes to countries closer to you though

south italy was conquored by blacks and arabs and was under them for a long time thats y there culture is still vestigiallly islamic (honor killings, dagger work). those kinds of people dont make wealthy societies. north italy was more peaceful and white from babylonian bleached stock people.

Italian men are so Chad they can get Asian women without trying so they don't have to become a doctor like me

...so? They still needed help from the Romans. Why are you so butthurt over what I said, Joao?

That's right. Just look Italy today. The north: lighter, closer to White, better quality of life, better salaries, more attractive women. South Italy: darker, dirtier, criminals, smelly, hairy, and trashy.

How did they need help from the Romans you dummy?

Aetius and Stilicho were both Germanic foederati.
The Roman Dominate after the Third Century Crisis only survived thanks to the foederati.

I mean when it was just them I hated them a lot, but now with moroccans tunisians pakis banglas afghans egyptians nigerians senegalese gypsy they look kind of better in comparison. atleast their women all crave italian dick, and albanians do not gatekeep them like the arab and nafri bastards

this nigga reads

albanians dont gateleek their women anymore?
what western degeneracy does to people... damn
they were considered the most strict with their women
and they had the most submissive traditional women

Italian food is good food. However it is greatly overrated.

Caesar Augustus had blonde hair and blue eyes.

...right. Never mind, then.

it was over for italy once Constantinople fell to the turks

Octavian was a Volscian. Not Roman.

Scooters are incredibly fucking gay and it blows my mind that europeans still haven't realized it, you look like adult babies riding them

Socialism and leftist economics. Once leftist economics starts making people poor the high IQ emigrate for better opportunities elsewhere. Leaving behind the dumbasses who vote for more socialism and leftist economics.

maybe in Albania, but here the second gen women are exactly like italian, if not slutty. I mean you still wouldn't do shit like have a bad breakdown because she surely have criminal relatives, that's certain, but for casual sex no problem. and some of them are really hot, especially from Kosovo

1968 sealed Italy's fate kinda.

The great migration period happened way before pisslam even existed while the levant and North Africa became more niggered over time it was still true that dozens of germanics and celts moved down south making the areas whiter.

what can you ride at 14 in america, other than your uncle's dick? with a few tweaks that scooter can reach 100 km/h

whites were slaves and sexual concubine in Rome which lead to mass mongrelization, eventually metasizing into the "med" phenotype; that was the extent of their contribution

The elites eventually pulled the plug on Rome and formed the HRE since they realized germanics make much better slaves thus starts the current arc of modern history

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Good for him but he was still not nordic.

GDP isn't just exports, it's all business and consumption activity that a country generates and much of it can be internal.

are italians actually scared of albanian men because they are criminals?
didnt you guys basically invent organized crime?

especially from Kosovo

that doesnt mean anything, they are ethnically same shit as albaninas
unless its some chicks from mixed serbo-bulgaro-macedo-albanian families (yes those exist)

what can you ride at 14 in america

Scooters
Most of us realize how gay it is and get cars at 16 though

i put cream in my carbonara

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didnt you guys basically invent organized crime?

The word mafia literally comes from Arabic.
Organized crime in Italy is either of Arabic [mafia] or Byzantine [ndranghetta] source.

No wonder you're all so emotionally unstable and prone to erratic fits of anger and indignation, you spend your formative years acting like complete belligerent retards instead of being taught restraint and composure

i didnt talk about semantics, but thank you for the info Moor

that's the terroni. most italians aren't involved in crime. albanians have always an uncle who sells coke, does sketchy shit and when police is after them they run back to albania or other parts of europe, helped by other group of albanians. I knew a guy who sold kilos of weed and showed me the chat with his associates, they were everywhere: zurich, amsterdam, madrid, vienna, etc. they have a culture of crime and a complacent state that allows them to hide.
anyway the ones I know from Kosovo are all tall and light haired so they are probably more mixed with slavs

look up mafia guys in NYC in the 90s talking about albanians. They all say that albanians changed the game. They tried to deal with albanians like they were used to dealing with russians, other italians, but they couldnt with the albanians cause the albanians were fucking next level dangerous/criminal/ruthless. Albanians are another level bro. there is a reason they have survived for this long despite the onslaught of romans, slavs who invaded their lands over the centuries

Its not semantics balkenneger.

The Mafia is a leftover Arabic covert institution in Sicily.
The pizo [mafia tax] is nothing more than renamed jyzia.

Same thing with the Ndranghetta. Its a leftover Byzantine op from the times the Byzantines were niggering around the place.

its pretty amazing to me still that a whole nation cant do or achieve anything else in life but petty crime
like not even literature, movies, poets, scientists...
very rare breed of rabid dogs that austria created

Shqiptars have the brutality that comes with being a slave race for millenia.
Pair it with Islamism and you get turbo-balkanic monkeys.

lmao u wish u fucking albozerg
if they didnt suck Clinton dick we would've exterminated the parasite vermin forever
they are weak, petty criminals, pathetic non-warriors
keep glorifying your maggot kin tho

m-muh next level

you sound so pathetic

lol no bro. Shiptars are not a slave race. They are mountain survivor people. slaves why cause they sometimes paid a tax to ottomans? please.

they got raped into islam forcefully, at the point smarter albanians like the arvanites and the arberesh in Italy left from the turkoalbanian mutant mix

im not albanian i wish i was im croach (slavic disgusting race). watch the video i just posted. this is a known thing amongst criminals everywhere. albanians are next level. You would not have exterminated them cause despite you sick freaks from belarus trying to do it for 1000 years u were never able to. u wouldnt have been able to in 1998 either.

The turkish ethnonym for the shqiptars means "the ones who march first".

The Shqiptars are nothing but cannon fodder. And Turkish property.

they got raped into islam forcefully

they're barely muslim. they dont rly give a fuck about islam or christianity they care about albanianism. u guys obsess over the muslim thing cause u think it makes u "based" when rly ur ancestors also cucked from paganism whats the fucken difference. as if all thes peasants back then even knew the difference between these desert faiths in any meaningful way.

Genocide or deportation to Argentina.

the shiptars are the descendents of illyrians who have been there for 30,000 years before the first slav transformed from a salamander into a protoslav from the belarus river marshes and before your moor ancestors left the trees of the savannah

The Shqiptars are inbred and circumcised.
All there is to it.

its another albozerg "patriot" unachiever glorifying that shithole from under the western flag

kek I already mentioned this just go to albania bro, go be in that based country, stop spreading your filth, literally everybody knows you are criminals wherever you go and they hate you
of course then all you are left with is to hang out with your or shit kin and cope

mass incarcerations on boat prisons in the middle of the sea. not just the mafia guys, their whole family, friends, co-workers, indiscriminately. take off electricity and water from known mafia towns, place army checkpoints everywhere, retaliatory actions against bombings or other terrorist acts.

The Albanians dont have Indo-European haplogroups.
And the Illyrians only arrived around 1400BC.
Barely changing Balkan genetics.

Most Albanians have Neolithic Anatolian/African and Balkanic ancestry.

fuck indo european invaders moor. go back to picking up ur spear and chasing wildabeast in the savannah of congo.
nisan ja siptar budalo neg hrvat samo san iskreno hrvat ko mogu kaze istine a nisan ja ka tipicno exjugo kretin ko laze i kaze da svoj retardiran slavenski pleme sto je 99.9% slicno ka svi drugi slavenski pleme je nesto izvanredni. fuck slavs. albanians forever. even if it means disrespecting myself.

fuck indo european invaders

So fuck Illyrians?

oh yeah? that's why they massacred their fellow arvanites and greeks fighting for indipendence from the ottoman empire? there are around a million of crypto-albanians in Greece that hate their muslim brothers with a passion, because they are a lineage of traitors and killers

Seriously, can someone explain to my southern Italian hair is so thick? They used to use axle grease from train cars to relax and style it.

Why the fuck aren't you in Albania then?

because whites declared war against westerners... why do you think the (((trump wall))) is a thing, even though most westerners want to return to their ancestral homeland. America has always been Hispanic. Don't get me started about the poverty the Hellenics suffer because of the anglos.

ya but the ones that converted were prob a couple generations b4 that

He cant traffick organs or children in Tirana.
He is Canuckia trying his luck at trafficking beavers.

prob african gene mixing in unironically

America has always been Hispanic

Even we don't believe that bullshit, Herschel

no,i should have xplained myself better. "fuck attachment to being the most indo european of all". ur gayass haplogroup cringe shit doesnt mean anything, who cares ?

Canada really needs to be nuked into a sheet of glass, the absolute worst people from all over the world are congregating there and creating these pathetic little micro-enclaves of people from countries no one gives a shit about

why

shitalians

Don't get me started about the poverty the Hellenics suffer because of the anglos.

Here we fucking go again. MUH freakin ANGLOS! pay denbts.
That's what I thought too.

So you arent Illyrians? You are just a vagrant gypsy tribe dominated by Hellene, Arab, Turk and Slav.

i am not albanian. i am a canadian croatian who hates croatia and all slavs and admires albanians for being extremely strong. i met albanians in my life they are very tough people and i respect them. cant say that i have any respect for serbs, croats or italians. anyone truthful knows it. and portugueses? LOL fuck no

Where did those horses came from? Oh right, Hispanics!!

I recommend this video:
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yugoslav

croat

All Balkaners are apes. This is more than proof.

Blacks don't have body hair.

pay denbts

That's a latinx.

Why did you abandon your country and the countries you admire, then? Canada has no love for you, they put niggers and pajeets in front of you

albanians ARE illyrians. u said the illyrians didnt have indo europid haplogroups. im sayin fuckin who cares. albanians were never dominated by arabs or slavs LOL. not like portuguese who are half arabic. and slavs never were able to enslave the tribe of illyrians known as albanians no matter how hard they tried. they murdered and rapeed the lowlanders tho, but the highlanders survived. fuck the slavs. humanitys dimwit stinkbombs.

Horses in the Americas came from Europe

i was born here. nothing i can do.if i went to albanian id be robbed, murdered likely cause they would hate me for not being as tough as them.

imagine simping for the more primitive, inbred and cultureless version of you

modern young people are fucked, instead of striving to become noble-minded people, they worship criminals and low-lives considering their life choices "couragious" when these people are just stupid animals that don't know better. this all glorification of crime, from cinema to music and art in general is a huge psyop to destroy the values of the white west.

Hispanics.

you are worse than southerners
at least they know they are subhumans
you dont

Why is 'it*ly' so irrelevant nowadays?

Imagine what happens when a state is created in 1859 specifically for hybridizing 92 IQ Siculo-neapolitans with 103 IQ Lombards and then after WW2 that state morphs into a genocidal machine for simply wiping Lombards out of existence.
What can possibly go wrong ?

You are room temp IQ.
The Illyrians were Iron Age invaders of the Balkans.

They were IE. But they conquered Balkanic Neolithic monkeys. Dinaric race monkeys.

They passed on language but not genetics you dumbnuts.

Shqiptars are as Illyrian genetically as the Turks are Mongolians genetically.

Rome ≠ Italy
Rome without the other territories of Rome wouldn't have been nearly as strong, and when they were enclosed in Italy, the Carthaginians could've easily defeated them forever but chose not to.
Trajan, the best Roman emperor, was born in Hispania, for example.

Latinx, stay away, pls
I'd rather be called moor than Hispanic.

albanians have never not once been glorified in the media. not like italians who get sucked off with every fuckin media depicton cause the 1800s romanticist faggots in the UK started a trend. fuck ur shit ass scam country forever.wouldnt be caught dead in that shithole.

Trajan

based and redpilled

Trajan, the best Roman emperor, was born in Hispania, for example.

From a Roman colonist family.
The Romans turned Hispania into a latifundia of Egyptian and Anatolian slaves.

Dont know what you are so proud of Manolo.

i guess thats all you need at 14.
its weird how most of these restrictions in other countries are made by government.

being taught restraint and composure

yea this is cope being treated as a child untill you are 21 actually fucks up your restraint and composure.

shiptars are part illyrians part neolithic, they formed the "illyurians" that the greeks wrote about. that was the illyrians. and theyre still around bitch. no not true re turks/mongols.

cool. never come, we don't need more bums

How the fuck are you going to make media about people named Bukuroshe and Tonibler?

Are you dumb?

Latino

Am I fucking speaking Italian? No, you MUST be an anglo (or anglophile/acomplejado) to be this retarded.

so which part of roman empire is the best part? which region make the best wine and have the best cuisine?

italians are not emotionally ustable have u ever actually met them? i met three in my life and all were very cunning, evil and calm. psuchopaths

No they arent. The Illyrians are long gone and replaced by Balkanic apemen like you.

Go back to your Balkanic zoo you fucking pongidean primate.

You DO know Portuguese are Hispanics, right?

debt is a judeo-mason construct, debt is meant to be forgiven not paid

middle eastern architectures in the background

mistery meat creatures in the foreground

Lombards/Tuscans not in the picture

it*ly's post ww2 civilizational mission is turning everything it comes across into a brazilian favela.
This abomination flushed down the sewer of history when ?

believe me the last thing id wanna be is like the 10 million dipshits who waltz into ur poverty stricken nation and gawk at the poorness of it and pretend to have some kind of "romantical italiano experience" cause they think poverty is cool LOL. fucking faggot cringe shit. "oh la dolce vita! wow! italy they just really know how to live life u know! so much passion". meanwhile u go there its just poo and pee and stink everywehre. but "poverty is cool " to the faggit tourists.

Portuguese are Spanish. As in we come from Hispania/Hisperia.

We are not some dumb neologism invented by the Anglo to fucking confuse racial definitions.

We are Hispaniensis. Not Hispanics.

go back to swinging on a tree and catching bananas african chimp monkey. illyrians are the ancestors of albanians. u think their language came out of nowhere?

You know exactly what I mean
Just go away, man. I'm not interested in whatever "Hispanic" unity thing you're selling. I don't believe in languages, I believe in genetics. And you're definitely not the same as me.

you are just jealous people love us even though we don't even try.

Doesn't London have a massive finance and business sector?

Language is not genetics you monkey balkaner.

Bolivians speak Spanish. And they arent Spaniards.
Turks speak mongolian. But they arent Mongolian.

You speak a dumb vernacular negrified from some lost Illyrian language.

That does not make you an Illyrian.
It makes you a Puerto Rican.

We are Hispaniensis. Not Hispanics.

How are people like the Gallicians and Catalonians "Hispaniensis but not Hispanics"?

"Hispanics" as they were defined 600 years ago, and not the mutant freak race they created that is now infesting 60% of the american continents

we don't even try.

every media depiction of italy is glorified and it puts ideas in roasties brains due to tourist industry. u definately fuckin try. believe me i would never be jealous of a country as evil and fucked up as yours.i will say i respect u tho, i am afraid of u.

uses google translate to larp

do albanians think that the rest of us dont see that they all have 80 IQ?

Every place Italians are not thrown out of is run by them.

ah so its just random then. language isnt genetics but its usually linked to pretend otherwise is retarded. sure sure monkey.

I don't know if by half Arab you are referring to the Muslim conquest of the peninsula, but if it's that, you are wrong.
There was almost no inter breeding between the cultures, and it was mostly native Iberians turning muslim, that's why you see red headed caliphs in artwork.
At most, only 6% of our ancestry comes from Muslims, and it can be related to ancient migration and just that

Getting shitfaced and fucking whores when you're 14 years old very clearly does not help your psychological development

lol ok buddy. i am just a croat who is in awe of albanians. y is that so hard to believe. i even have a baby picture with an ustasa hat my family is from benkovac i was forced to learn poglavnik pledge at age 6 under punishment if i didnt get the words right.

We are all from Hispania.
Not Nueva España.

We are not defined by American neologisms or categorizations.

Yeah, keep posting portraits of already terminally mixed egyptians for describing 2k years ago Romans, retard.
Pompeii frescoes tell a different story.
Pic related was uncovered a few months ago.
nb4 that damned middle-eastern looking baker and his zoophilic white wife that the site has chosen as its symbol: that's the only exception in a deluge of NW european phenotypes popping out everywhere.

Tuscans are italic, thus terroni. They're marginally better than their southern brethren.

i dont believe that. From observing portuguese and spaniard people i believe you are at least 50-60 percent arab. many people agree with me as well. im sorry man. i have nothing against u guys but its just a fact.

So you aren't from there and neither were your ancestors, you've probably never been there, you live in a country halfway across the planet from them, and you feel obligated to defend them anonymously to anonymous strangers on a laotian blacksmithing imageboard as though they're your own flesh and blood?

8/8

stfu retarded balkan ape nigger

Hispania was as roman as any other part of Rome. We invented the gladius for gods sake. Rome was not a bunch of colonies dependent on Italy, it was an empire with intertwined territories that all felt roman. The Roman culture was so strong that when the visigoths ruled, they still maintained a lot of roman customs.
I don't know why you renegade from your past Joao, Lusitania was a great province of Rome as well, I live next to Emerita Augusta (Merida) for example

Being a witch doctor doesn't count

genetics is just a buzzword

Beam me up, scotty...

many people agree with me

Irrelevant. That's like saying that because other people agree with you that the Earth is flat, surely it must be true.

i believe you are at least 50-60 percent arab.

Objectively and scientifically untrue. Basques are also swarthy despite having never been invaded by foreign forces.

I see your point, and why you used the Roman nomenclature.

Although the term "Hispanic" refers to people whose civilization is from the Hispanic Peninsula, rather than their geographic distribution.

why are israeli flags allowed on this board

now you simp for Albanians what happened to simping for canada. Not even faggots like you belive it anymore.

The Romans brought Jewish-Levantine filth into my land.
Christianity and latifundia slaves.

The traitor at Guadalete was a count named Julian.

Thats all I need to know.

Hadrian was the most masculine, you albino weak twink maggot

Yes, it's a buzzword given the context you provided. No different from buzzwords like "justice" and "order" in a judeo-communist context.

Explain to me how reggaeton, mariachi and freaking candomblé comes from Hispania.

Northern Italians are effeminate Germanic rape babies

Because the discovery of transoceanic trade routes in the late 1400s. During the middle ages, most exotic goods going to Europe were routed through the Mediterranean and distributed to the rest of Europe via italian merchants. This created wealthy and powerful city states (Venice, Genoa, Pisa, etc.) that could fund cultural and artistic projects. However, the discovery of the New World and the sea-route to Asia caused trade to shift away from the Mediterranean and towards the parts of north-west Europe that had an easy access to the world-ocean. Ironically, many of these discoveries were made by Italians.

i mostly identify as a british patriot despite being croatian but its becoming so difficult to do cause the brits have turned against canada and canada and britan have become gay but i act as an anglophone but i really am in awe of how great albanians are. their culture reminds me of how british used to be when in their golden age.
? heil hitler?
yes

Only Sicuo-neapolitans use the T-bomb for Tuscans or Venetians (which are a subset of Lombards). Lombards have never done that and would never do that.
It's the Siculo-neapolitan room temperature IQ version of divide and conquer. Yes, it's genetic.

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Southern italians are belligerent swarthy ottoman rape babies, pick your poison retard

helps more than being in defacto kindergarten until you are 25.
Americans get wasted in college parties with no restraint.
driving a moped around fucking hookers amd drinking vine teaches you basics about life so you sre not sleeping in a ditch at 30.

You dont know any italians. Italian-americans dont count, culturally they are their own breed

DEBUNKED BY A LATINO (Italian), ANGLOKIKE:
youtube.com/watch?v=wx90MPXeagw

anglokikes like you are the reason behind this pic:

They have a lot of industry and soft power. They're also economicly disadvantaged by unusual topography like Brazil is and few sources of fuel. If they had kept Libya they would be Europe's leading power.

true
both just as subhumans though
even more so the germanics
at least the arabs know they are subhumans

is it true that italian food isn’t actually pizza and stuff with a lot of red sauce

If you're actually trying to convince me Serbia has a better quality of life than my country due to letting your children drunk drive and fuck AIDS infected prostitutes I don't think this conversation can go much further

Yawn, too much garbage to read in this thread.
Like any thread starting with that smelly aborted mexican flag on top of it.
How do jannies even allow this to continue ?
Besides, pic related tells you everything you'll ever need to know about the demented concepts of 'it*ly' and 'it*lians'.

The Lombard is just an albino pig skin. It’s a defective genetic mutation. That’s why pale women lust over darker men. They want to correct the problem.

Southern Italians are the true Italians, you pig skin mongrel

They got flooded with africans

Your country is the epitome of subhuman parasites

Tuscans are italic, Cisalpines are not. Not much to debate there.
Are you part Tuscan anon? Is that why you insist in grouping those terroni with us?
All italics in the Cisalpine will get the rope eventually.

Nice projection.

Spanish wine is the best and lot cheaper than french and Italian because we don't have the marketing that they do have. Also Italian food is really really good, but also incredibly overrated. Hispania has spanish food that I'm biased but I find it incredibly varied and good, and the Portuguese have bacalhau au bras that I really like and pasteis de nata which my mother loves so I usually have at home for when she comes to have a coffee with me

thats a reconstruction, marks of a slave that as their features were fetishized, as the were in North Africa leading a mirrored arrangment of the systematic use of whites as concubine

that was the extent of their contribution

Europe is under Judeo-American dominion. America is a golem and front for Jewish power, effectively a satellite state of Israel. The EU is satellite organization of the United States and Italy is a satellite of the EU, as are all the other member states. The Shabbos goy who run Italy today are glorified vassals of a Jewish Empire that spans the west and far removed from real power. The Italian people subject to them are even further removed from real power.

Until this changes, Europe is going to remain various shades of irrelevant while all the big decisions are made in Tel Aviv.

Imagine think pic related is Italian, let alone White. COPE

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US is the most infantilizing country. Your brain develops at 15.
Popele used to lead armies have wifes and do bunch of stuff at that age.
US treats even fully grown men and women as children because of boomers.
Other nations do it too but not in thst amount.
Are you Avare 80% of jobs could be done by 15 year Olds.

1 - I think it's because it's more of a collection of states and nationalities. I'd be interested to hear from Italians if they agree that there's a unified Italian identity, because if there isn't - the lack of national unity is an obstable to creating a unified powerhouse.
2 - They have some of the highest taxes in Europe. Regulation is also there: in 2023 they had the 57th freest economy, inbetween Armenia and Panama:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom#2023
It's hard to create a thriving environment in those conditions.
3 - the ZOG successfully prevents all our nations from succeeding.

fixed

Are you Avare

no, croaches are avars, not americans. the w isnt even close to the v u stupid belarusian faggit.

closest people to Ancestral Romans are Modern Central Italians

No, it's basically
1. Northeastern Spaniards
2. Northern Italians
3. Southern French
4. Spain/Portugal
5. Central Italians
6. Northern French
7. Southern Italians

china

A collection of races with little in common, you mean. Anything else is a political construct.
A "unified" Italian state is a judeo masonic fever dream. Reality exists regardless of expectations.

This map tells the tale much better of how only modern Lombards and Tuscans can be even remotely related to the Romans of the origins.

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congrats on your AIDS, anon
you fucked a baboon

Misread your post, regardless you are correct in your assertion.

I agree completely. as a whole I like Spain more, it's more real than Italy. but in reality we could be a whole big country together with Portugal and Greece without much issue

The Latins were Italo-Celtic.
Of course they are going to group with Italo-Celts.

Not Levantine-Anatolian mistery meats from the Byzantine shitholes.

my heterosexuality is stronger than my racism

I am not getting in the same boat with Graeculi and Italioti.
You are Levantine Jews to me.

I would rather be whipped by a German.

You have never been the the US and you have no clue what it's like to live here. Rich people's kids live sheltered lives just like in every other country, but the majority of us work shitty jobs to get by just like everyone else. Your idea of this country is tainted, like all european nationals, by your media and what you've been told it's like here. Rich urbanite 20-somethings are not representative of anyone but themselves

ok, not a big miss, we would still be a powerhouse, only thing that Portugal has which is good is the huge EEZ.

watch this Sicilian latifundiary slave give me a definition on what the Romans were

I have read Juvenal and Sallust nigger.

Nationes natae servitutis. You and that Sicilian nigger.

mark of a slave as their features were fetishized, as they were in North Africa leading a mirrored arrangment of the systematic use of whites as concubine*

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dude I have cousins there. went to visit them in summer 2005 when I was 13. while I was already going out at night back home, my cousins and all his friends had corfew, couldn't chill outside in the evening, and all they did was eating hot pockets and play xbox in the basement. it was so depressing

pasteis de nata

now thats overrated. its not bad but its not special at all. Seafood is whats good in Portugal and codfish.

We

We north of the Rubicon. The rest of this dump would be worse than north Africa without gibsmedat.

Portugal was founded in 1128.
Not 1821 or 1861.

Not a freemasonic project to destroy Austria.

Keep your una faccia una razza rethoric towards the Graeculi and the Turko-Arabs.

Spanish wine is the best and lot cheaper than french and Italian because we don't have the marketing that they do have.

can you give examples of this

Don't listen to the Portuguese, he is butthurt he would be the smaller one in the union. I would love to, I feel a lot more kinship towards Italians than to latin Americans, but my government seems hell-bent on growing closer to the latter

The anglos fabricated Portugal in 1640 AD.

I would love to, I feel a lot more kinship towards Italians than to latin Americans

This.

The Anglos had a hand in enslaving Portugal to Anglo-Kike capital in 1640.

Portugal is a crusader state founded by the Templars in 1128.

I have no problem with my Castillian brethren.
I wish we could be closer.
Without getting pestered by oriental Italoid-Greekaloid christian arabs.

And? Does it elude you that nearly every country that considers people to be "adults" at 15 is a destitute shithole? 21 is a bit extreme, I agree that our age restriction for buying alcohol is kind of stupid but being legally able to get shitfaced and fuck whores at 14 demonstratably leads to cultures of failure and poverty. You people also talk as though no one here ever breaks the rules, it isn't illegal for minors to consume alcohol in America, it's only illegal for them to purchase it

jet engines for a lot of US aircraft

A "unified" 'it*lian' state is a judeo masonic fever dream

It used to be a fever dream up to the 1950s.
Then the Siculo-neapolitan settlement in Lombardy and the inevitable Lombard hybridization with the invaders have worked their magic in turning 'it*ly' into a gigantic Sicily+Naples. Evil always wins in this sick world.

Anything Ribera del Duero is really good. I, like most spaniards, just drink the wine that comes from our specific region, so I mostly drink wine that comes from Extremadura, like a viña puebla

I think so too, but my mother loves them. A good son should always have his mothers favourite pastry for when she comes to visit

Latinia (states of Italy-Greece-Spain-Portugal-France with Corsica and Malta - or France goes on its own in exchange for Corsica and the southern third of the mainland).

Take over the Med, crush the MENA nogs, burn Israel to the ground.

unless you are a nigger living in a hood cops dont even visit it is. Or some redneck back in a woods.
Most Americans you will meet are Middle class.
that is the point to alienate poeple snd make their life all about gaymes.
one croatian priest went to visit some croatian family in US. they all drink cola for lunch and he took a glass of vine. Next time he took the vine again and they told him he has a problem and should go to rehab.

Natural selection. Miscegenators doom their bloodline forever, we benefit from losing the chaff if that's what concerns you.
Anything else can and will be rectified.

They're tempted by the allure of all those Mestizo wage-slaves and divorced enough from reality to know that they're not really worth it.

Miscegenators

spoken like a tenryubito :^3

I am going to have fun killing Byzantikikes and Italioti first.

one croatian priest went to visit some croatian family in US. they all drink cola for lunch and he took a glass of vine. Next time he took the vine again and they told him he has a problem and should go to rehab.

lol nigger please. even if this did happen it is such an odd strange occurrence and not the norm in the US at all to react that way
love u and this italian faggot tryna hold onto some bullshit myths "cool europe" KEK when ur just dilapidated and total shit cuck countries. "yeah mann us europeans we knoe how to live lifeee mannn". fuck off.

The modern china empire has only been an empire for about about 70 years. The previous one that actually lasted was hundreds of years back.

yet you have a higher african admixture than us. anyway, every portoguese i met was depressed as fuck, maybe there's something wrong with your lifestyle, larping as central european doesn't suit you

Just kill all the leftists.

Portugal is based and our oldest ally. The Spaniards, Italians, Greeks and any other med country cannot and should not be trusted.

No idea what that crap is. Anime is a mental disease.

larping as central european

Lol. No larp here.

But I do have the Dorian/Latin urge to spank some Helot/Pleb arse.

I am siding with the races that Cicero called naturally born serfs.

Italy hasn't been internationally politically relevant in centuries. Venice was the only state with direct power past 1500, the rest were under influence of foreigners or totally irrelevant. You could go deeper in history for several regions.
Even the Italian state unification was essentially a French project stalled by power split with Spaniards and Austrians in the 16-17th centuries then successful in the 18-19th.
Only militaryboo would trash Italians for that. It's a land of high culture which is much more important than being politically relevant.

portuguese are known as down syndrome italians around here. italians are known to be very fake, wull be nice to ur face but cut ur throat if they can make one cent, spaniards we associate with mexicans, greeks are known to be homosexual.

Its only Byzantikikes [Greekaloids] and Italioti.

East Med people are basically Christian Arabs.

Everything about Italy is Semitic in origin.
And I am tired of pretending its not.

empire only really ends when you're being racemixed with enemy sperm, chinese are still homogeneous

Pictures from the miniscule Pompeii brothel matter only in globohomo media propaganda.
If you find a borthel in a place that means the society around it is not a brothel. A brothel is like a septic tank for the scum of the population.
Also bronzed male figures are an aesthetic topos that has nothing to do with race. Otherwise you can't explain why women are always white. Don't you agree champ ?

As an Italian I believe that after the second world war it became a sort of minion for higher and stronger countries like the US or Russia. It's not hard to see how the Italian Government is behaving towards smaller countries and their own citizens. Every day in the news there is the prime minister who makes increasingly more decisions far from the wishes of her people, and she's always on the side of extremist Right.

Most Americans you will meet are Middle class.

Again, you have never been here. Lower class and poor people are everywhere

Women are lighter in classical art because that was the beauty standard of the time, bubba. They wanted a delicate high class person instead of one heavily tanned by years of work under the sun.
I speculate the supposed mandate for prostitutes to dye their hair with lye would have been a matter of public health since it kills lice.

portuguese are known as down syndrome italians

Do you even know where Portugal is?

The greek verb for applying cosmetics and hair dye is literally saphrozein.
To become like saffron.

Applying blond hair dye was the trait of a denordicized people.

Just read Adriano Romualdi. I Indoeuropei.

He outlines Rome's racial collapse.

depicting a standard dynamic since it was common practice, considering it was their assigned lot within society.

Romans were heavy slavers and traffickers of humans, so your critique of these behaviors being representative of the "scum" segment of the population is amusing

Wow, kid looks straight out of a ren painting. So those really are the "true" Italians

ahahah
i like you

No, the real Italians are italics which live south if the Rubicon. The ones in the picture are Lombards, probably western.

no haphazardly plopped blobs of cheese

spread out across the whole pizza instead

Pezzo di merda, dis is-a NOT-a true italiano pizza

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I cant reslly find it not sure how cheap it is but i will try.
Before I only heard about rioha region vine being good.

They were considered one of the main powers in Europe once.

when? Italy has been a second-rate "great" power since it was formed.
aside from the Roman Empire, only high Middle Ages Venice achieved any notable level of influence.

Fottuto coglione.
Mussolini invece di mandare quei coglioni dei tuoi nonni in villeggiatura a Ventotene e Ponza, doveva mandarli a crepare in Africa, Grecia e Russia.

A good ham leg will last you like a month if you treat it well, so it's an investment

they're backward and lagging a good two decades behind
they barely have an internet footprint, the use of a computed is as marginal as it was in the early 00 in countries like germany or france
which isn't a too bad thing for them arguably, their social structure is better off as a result and they don't suffer as much the modern bullshit of the west
now in term of economy they're doing fine, the north is rich with food products and rome is honestly one of the most tourist friendly cities in europe

Way after the lie of you being "free" in your goy cattle ranch with a mutilated dick for Moloch.

Italy keeps to itself so jews don't infest them like all other western nations.

do italians even use internet?
italian flags on Anon Babble are the rarest ones

yeah the tranny indoctrination machine works pretty bad in Italy, mostly because even zoomer, although much less than older generation, touch grass and spend time mostly outside even if they are lil faggots

Noted, I'll do some reading based off this

also you didn't really had the industrial boom of france or germany that led to the rural exodus to the cities and the centralization, which is great
the consequences of that are slowly starting to kill us

we had it in the 60s but it was terroni moving to the north. they changed the whole demographics of the north way more than what immigrants did. northern countryside maintained its population more or less, but still modern agricolture was a tragedy for Italy and it was the beginning of the destruction of our land and social structure

Because of its sissy men

Median age of 48, not independent since 1945. That's the reason

you didn't really had the industrial boom of france

lol what, we literally had one and it was even greater than yours. Our manufacturing industry is still bigger than yours and its quite ridiculous considering that you've got 10m people less than you

We've got*

Either way, what any european should do is buy wine from their own land, to support their local economy. Most of the wine I drink is from my grandparents town, and it tastes perfectly fine while knowing that you are drinking what the ground you were born into gives you

That was such a great and funny match.

Like for example:
cooperativasantamarta.com/producto/calamon-rosado-semidulce/
This wine I always have when I have lunch with them. 3 euro, tastes good and is from our land. That's what makes wine wine in my opinion, the attachment to the land it's made in

I would do it but here vine is ridiculously expensive unless its pure garbage just to get drunk with.
There are some great vines but they are really small scale and you need to know where to look. We lack medium scale vine in general. Its either fancy or garbage.

Mutt seething at canada, kek

Some people really don't understand world war II is a fight for supremacy over Europe. Either white or Jews

Im not a fan of rose in general but It could be good.
I did try semi sweet solaris it was nice. Semi Sweet is ok for me sweet like porto is not my cup of tea.