This is political

I have slept on the ground for 7 years
Society has been conned into believing they need to buy expensive mattresses and bed frames and use up huge amounts of space in their rooms to house the bed
It's bullshit

Have you looked at how much a shikibuton costs?

Yeah, My wife is obsessed with beds. It's honestly ridiculous.

I agree with this. I had to sleep on the floor for a week because my mattress was shit, and I got the best sleep. It took some adjustment to get used to but now all mattresses feel too soft and my back hurts the next day
The only downside is where do I have sex with women then
which desu I never do

With a decent enough matress why should the ground not be good enough for us?! If I wanna pass out in style I can damn well use the couch!

Futons are a great space saver. If you're going to have a full mattress though, putting it straight on the floor just looks poor.

I get back pain every night I don't get to sleep on my expensive mattress

Why the floor? Just build your own simple frame

Mattresses, bed frames, sheets, pillows etc are a Jewish fraud scheme to make the goyim weak while at the same time draining them of shekels.

Seriously though...its probably more true than not.

Why would I spend money on a frame when I don't need a mattress or a frame
My futon works fine on the floor

Just sleep outside on the grass. That’s a free mattress.

be me

go online to find a japanese bed

shit costs more than an actual bed and mattress

I tried it but it's a lot more comfy on a bed and a mattress, plus not so dusty.

A floor futon is like 100 bucks on Amazon

Being a fatso means that beds trap too much heat... but my jelly rolls provide the cushion necessary to sleep on the floor, much cooler too. My skeltal friends said they tried floor sleeping once and their bones hurt.

not storing several thousand lbs of rice under your bed

Pfffft.

Also, there is a reason for raising them slightly off the floor because, depending km where you live, the bedding can go mouldy without some air flow under it.

Also.

Scorpions.

Use a weighted blanket.

I started using one 5 years ago and I'll never go back.

expensive

1-5k

how fucking poor are you that you can't buy a basic bitch matress?
if it's actually more comfortable for yout sleep on the floor fine, but cost is barely a concern for something you're going to use for 10+ years.

Futons are designed to be used with tatami floors, so you might as well weeb it up to the max and get something like picrel.
You can get a Japanese zaisu with a folding table to make your bedroom into your private office.

Also.

Scorpions.

Scorpions ... come on!! Bloody scorpions, jeez!

i sleep on a mattress on the ground when im at my parents and it kills my back so i prefer my normal bed at home.

Enjoy the spider bites I like spider bros too but not enough for them to crawl on me at night

Chad fucks your girlfriend raw on his dirty futon mattress on the dirty floor of his studio apartment in the ghetto.

It's a Capitalist conditioning of the mind to think that the more you spend the wealthier you are. It's not that he can't afford it It's that he chooses not to buy it.

it's dirty and there's potential for mold growth. you can get a basic frame or even build one for nothing

El.... Scorpios.

Indeed.
And damp.

Just loads of scorpions and loads of damp.

Pro tip, get a CHEAP firm mattress. They are unironically some of the most comfortable mattresses out there.

this, I had an expensive and soft mattress that destroyed my back, I picked up some cheap spring mattress and I sleep like a baby on it

are spiders incapable of climbing shit now?

Someone I know here in the UK went down the whole

just sleep on the floor bro pilled route

By floor, they meant a 30cm thick mattress on the floor.

Month or two later, lifted it up. Mould on the underside. Yay.

There's a reason bedframes and slats exist. And that reason is airgapping. The same with roofs and house siding.

It's true, and there's actually a ton of scientific evidence why it removes so many problems with the back, the spine, muscle problems etc.
I took the "sleep on hard surface" pill few months ago, i was amazed at the results and started doing more research.
Guess what? I now sleep on the floor (one blanket under), no mattress at all and I bought a 9kg weighted blanket.
You will never go back, ever. It's a blessing and a curse, now I cannot sleep on a normal bed anymore.
If you have health problems regarding your back/spine/neck, it will fix all that.

Just clean your floor and pick them up after waking up, lmao.

But be ready, the first time you sleep on a hard surface, you will wake up about 20+ times on your first night.

??
nigger I'm arguing the opposite, buy infrequently/once.

I have a similar japanese setup, but I still sleep on a platform to get off the ground. Best of both.

Sex on futon is incredible.

No but they are more likely to be on the floor in my experience sadly I don’t have any spider bros anymore because my bitch fiancée keeps cleaning getting rid of my frens why do women hate spider bros so much.

Get a cotton muslin blanket. Best. Lanket ever.

justd, microbially disinfect you floor and mattress daily

Or, just don't put it directly on the floor.

The flees will get stuck inside the roll

Yeah, it's true, but it has a purpose. It's scientific, I researched that shit bc i'm skinny af too, and after a first few nights my bones hurt, but basically it's because the floor is conditioning the bones, making them stronger eventually.
Now it doesn't hurt AT ALL.

Everytime I've slept on the floor bugs have started to crawl on me

How many women have you fucked in those seven years?

Fucking up your back is based and redpilled and it makes trannies seeth

I literally just use a blanket and roll it up when I wake up, it doesn't even smell.

it's also how to tell if they take anal or not if you're on the lower spectrum of sex assert.

I did that in the past. Now that my knees are falling apart, I like having the elevation from the floor when I get out of bed and my knees are the stiffest. You weren't conned, you were just preparing for the future when you're not young anymore and you never knew it. That said, by all means keep doing it while you can.

It's better for your back than a normal bed though

Only a super comfy mattress can ruin your back, because when you lay in it it literally takes the form of your body, instead of deeply relaxing the muscles against a hard surface with gravity for 8 hours.

I just started doing this this year it works great. And I just fold it up anytime I need the space, getting that extra space back is so underrated. I started working out in my room and I've lost like 20lbs, so cash. Literally couldn't do it if I had a western mattress with boxspring and frame. I'm a former mattress salesman, western mattresses are cultural products we're conditioned to think we need because it's what nobility started sleeping on back in feudal times to flaunt their wealth. Literally I'm not kidding.

Based. Korea does this

Confirming this to be true.
Also checked.

No it's because the floor is cold a d heat rises, and people used to sleep in stone huts without electricity. Richer people had fancy bedframes because they could. And rugs and slippers. In Asia they slept on the floor because they had heating under the floor so it was the warmest place to be. This is literally the only reason. Same exact reasoning for eating in a chair at the table in the west, and sitting on the floor at a low table in the east, where the warmth is.

Mattresses costing as much as they do? Yeah that's still a scam

That's bullshit and you know it

It's better for your back
They're made out of cotton you can just hang it outside for an hour and the sunlight disinfects it because natural fibers were made by God and not the plastic jew. Makes it far cleaner than a mattress that no one ever actually cleans so it gets weighted down with skin cells, dist, and bodily fluids over the years.

You life in a dirty place

A mattress on a frame only has four posts for them to potentially climb which is much less likely then them crawling over the mattress on the floor

You're 3x vaccinated, aren't you? Your opinion does no longer mattress.

Oh my god, checked.

Pro tip: the other 7 Indian men in the room with him also slept on the floor.

Tell it to the buddhist monks, rabbi. TELL EM.
How dare the goyim not buy matresses.

Thanks for bringing this to my attention. I'm moving in a few months and this looks so much more practical for my needs than buying a whole new ass bed

I like a firm mattress, but sleeping on the floor is too much. My lower spine would suffer immensely and there's nothing you can say to change that.

this might be the most liberal woke jewish sentence iv ever read in my entire life
kill yourself moshe

You are an Australian so I defer any spider knowledge to you. If you say they'll fuck you either way I'll believe you

I get laid fairly frequently from girls at my favorite bar. I have to have a bed bub. No grown woman is getting naked and fucking on the ground in America. That’s high school

You are using a memeflag so I just assumed this is a Jewish trick. Might buy a second bed to put on top of my bed just to be safe.

Sorry, I don’t make the rules. If you want people to even briefly consider anything you post, you have to stop using Israeli flags.

Lol, I've brought over models and fucked them on the floor with my fucking rat cage next to my matress, knees hurt alot later though.
I've never had a girl over who I didn't fuck, if they're coming over it's not to drink tea, motherfucker.

what types of critters does your house get?

Okay, but I really like the templars. Can I memefag in other threads, daddy?

Same. What's the final redpill for cheap that you can rest on indefinitely?

I have slept on the ground for 7 years

So, you're homeless and sleep on dirt?

I think, thought, that believing you will die if you sleep on the floor for a night, sounds kinda like a trick more than suggesting a hard surface might be better for realigning your spine and eventually fix back problems, you fucking faggot.

You can use memeflags under the following conditions:

you want people to think you are a kike

you want to have the subject of your posts ignored

you prefer being insulted to discussion

Otherwise, I would not recommend it.

I sleep on the ground outside on leaves and sticks and it's fine. Housing is a scam you can literally just sleep on the ground outside

Are you some sort of whistle blower against Big Bed?

it's surprisingly good exercise to get onto/up from a floor mattress in a controlled manner

Fuck off, tranny.

based naturalist
i sleep on 2" foam double stacked i bought from joannes store closing.
also i fucking hate jews and hope i die soon
die you fucking faggot jannies
fuck you

Super old biker gang joke, can't get more Jewboy than that. Thanks hahaaha. anyway-

women have expert gaydars.

Meant for this anon in a different thread, not sure why tf it showed up here.

Are you gonna bang your wife on that instead of on a mattress? Fucking her into the ground is much worse.

Just tell them you are part-japanese.

Too easy for bugs to crawl onto it and colder in the winter.

futon master race checking in

buys a new mattress every 3 years

da fuq

And damp.

Right. Japs had floor heating figured out. Otherwise I would agree. It also depends on local humidity levels averaged out .... nvm modern materials. Bed bugs ... dust mites ... conditionals.

I slept on the floor for just a few months and the futon molded. Not enough air circulation.

They also take their outside shoes off before going into the house and keep the inside cleaner than a sterilized hospital. Americans houses are dirty and need their beds kept up high far away from the dirt and bugs all over their houses.

using the rainbow flag to pretend to be a faggot

using the BLM flag to pretend to be a niggerfaggot

using the EU flag to pretend to be very smart

you forgot a few

Yeah. I once had a tinder negro woman come over and she entered my room with shoes on, I fucking flipped out on her.

I've fucked some drunk exes on the cold tile of my bathroom floor.

I've brought over models and fucked them on the floor with my fucking rat cage next to my matress

top kek

A bad box spring will also ruin your back. Sleeping on the hard floor will ruin your back. It's more so how you sleep. If you sleep on your back you probably will have no problems on the hard floor. But if you sleep on your side then you will need a proper bed.

Sometimes sleeping on a simple mattress on the floor is more comfortable than sleeping on a bad.

6500 sek, the fuck?

I slept on the floor for just a few months and the futon molded. Not enough air circulation.

the point of a futon is that you can air it outside every day

That was worded badly. But Yeah I had pet rats. So what. Fuck you man. I've only had one woman complain later that there were rats and my room smelled like weed and that there's no fucking bed.

No one sees those flags and thinks anything but

kike

You gotta be completely retarded to think anons see a blm flag and assume the user is black.

I've slept on the same cheap mattress I've had for decades that has a massive dent in it in the shape of my ass and I never have any back pain or discomfort at all. Expensive mattresses are a meme.

this doesn't work if you don't live in an apartment with a balcony, and when your futon is like 100+lbs and doesn't fold well.

Just raise it to the side, man what the fuck.

which part?

They will reply, worriedly.

Based floor sleeper.

I've slept on the floor in one way or another for most of my life. My "bed" at the moment consists of a kids memory foam play rug and a thin mattress topper. It's firm af but has just enough cushion for your bony bits. My back and hips and shoulders get a massage every night while I sleep and move positions without waking up. Soft, deep mattresses hold you in place and you often have to wake up to change position, effecting sleep quality. People don't understand how "active" sleep actually is supposed to be.

Pic related. How thick my bed is.

its dey cultcha

You can do better. You can go out and sleep in snow as naked. Only pussies need house and warm.

A) you have bugs & cooties all over you
B) including dust mites which are the niggers of dust
C) you can make a convincing bespoke bed easily enough
D) I don’t like foreigners, schemers, spiders or Brussels sprouts.

Try it. It's good to do occasionally because it straightens your spine

the crazy part is, because you have a Finish flag, i believe you. also denounce the holocaust death to kikes
arrest me you fucking faggot niggers
i want to die

frugal is the way to go. i slept on my leather couch for like 3 years despite making a low 6 figure income in 2009-2011 in my mid 20s

my biggest fucking regret was buying STOOONKS with the savings instead of this thing i thought was hipster trash called "bitcoin." what a son of a bitch fakeass kike system.

Brussels sprouts

good euphemism for the EU globalist jews

you're an irritating faggot

my 14 inch, semi-firm, memory foam/spring hybrid mattress was 280 dollars on sale from Amazon and it's been solid for 8 years.

for me, it's the indoor hammock

Also what i want to know is this, while we are on the subject of beds. Do Americans know what a sausage roll is?
I just remembered that they don’t have sausage rolls in America (lol) which begs the question

have I been gyp’ed by the supermarket again? Pic related. I drew you an arrow on it to help you out.

I won’t be able to sleep later on in my bed because of wondering about this question.

for me, it's the indoor hammock

redpill me on this

Both leave the taste of shit behind them.

they look tasty but I've never seen a sausage roll here. I know what they are from gordon ramsay shows.

I would sleep on the floor would it not be for my stupid cat carrying around her litter all over the floor in my room.

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we have that shit, you garbgantuan retard

scones, biscuits, shit-in-a-tin and all that other repulsive stuff you people eat. all of it.

Based spaniard not knowing shit about anything and not knowing what google is.

one of the many things our peoples agree upon

Also when you live on the first floor near a trafficated street you get lots of dust. Even after a single day it looks like shit, if you use a futon on the floor you'd have to wash it after a week.

I was stupid enough to try sleeping on the floor for a few days.
Ended up staggering into IKEA and buying their most expensive mattress and paying extra to have it delivered same day. Passed out for 14 hours when it arrived. Didn't even build the bed, just slept on the mattress.

Apparently they are mucho good. I’d like a hammock. To keep me safe from ground dwelling amphibians, snakes, Brussels sprouts and eu globalist politicians as i sleep but it’s the worry of how to keep it up in the air. It would need bolts? Where to put them? I have considered it in the past.

i've slept on the floor for 15 years now. first out of necessity, but now I have a nice bed and I still much prefer the floor

Based spaniard not knowing shit about anything and not knowing what google is.

nigger, google stopped working properly a decade ago, a forums aren't a thing since reddit monopolized it. Anon Babble is the only place on the whole internet where you can find useful information. I know sailors used to sleep on hammocks, but I want to know the advantages of using it inside a house.

Sounds very comfy I should get one

You have shit-in-tin to eat?
Someone has fooled you there. Duh!
It doesn’t come in tins it comes in plastic bags like bread.