There's Been a Shift in the Dating Market - It's The Worst Time in History For A Man To Date

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There's Been a Shift in the Dating Market - It's The Worst Time in History For A Man To Date

We've reached a point where dating is at its worst point ever in history for non-Chad men.

Where it's the worst of both worlds for men.

We know women are feminist liberal whores, when it suits them - social media with 1000s of simps in DMs, clubbing every weekend, girls trips, opened legs for Chad, high paying white collar jobs that do nothing, incredible social influence over men/simps, political+economic power

AND NOW an emerging trend

women have reclaimed all the benefits of traditional chivalry, dubbed "princess treamtnet" on social media in a viral trend. Women now demand, and expect, men to pay 100% of dates (50/50 men are the ick), men to drive them everywhere as "passenger princess", men to call them an uber to a first date, men to send them flowers on a date (even a first date), men to fix all their problems, men to give them money for nothing , men to be providers and protectors, men to cook for them, men to keep them in their "feminine energy" (aka having every single problem handled for them so they don't have to worry about anything)

ALL while providing absolutely nothing in return, and keeping all the money, power, influence for themselves. All while outearning men. They will never cook, clean, do anything remotely traditional, they'll keep their instagram, their simp orbiters, their Chads, their girls nights, dressing like a whore

They are maxxing out the benefits of feminism and traditionalism and pushing the boundaries to previously unthinkable levels, taking everything they can possibly get, having their cake and eating it too. Just even 1-2 years ago, it was not like this. Splitting bills on dates was fairly expected. Women being independent was the norm.

Ultimately, you want to do away with feminism, but so long as we live in a feminist society, women should uphold their end of the bargain - they aren't. Men are giving in, simping, oblivious to the absolute scam unfolding before them

Incel thread

Additionally, women are putting out for sex less and less. "Boy sober" and celibacy are trends. Making non-Chad work for it and pay $1000+ in dates is expected.

Men get NOTHING out of dating now - not sex, not a wife, forget kids/family. Not even good company

Go to the third world? Princess treatment is even worse there. That's where this shit comes from, mostly from spic/arab countries who spoil their women even with feminism in place.

I like women.
Take it to Anon Babble

It was already like this in 2016. It's just all the faggots who kept posting shit that doesn't work like

I met my gf at a bar in 2012

Got divorceraped by their whore.

This isn't reddit, but you can fuck off back there.

bro if you fall for all that second greentext stuff you deserve to get scammed. women who are legitimately interested will do all of that for you without even needing to ask because they want you so bad

Liking women is gay as fuck

Women now have an abundance of men to chose from online. Every average woman and above who has social media, and they all do, is bombarded with hordes of male attention and suitors. But this also happens in real life, at school, in their social circle and everywhere else they go. They are importing millions of men every year into the west and have been doing this for decades now. The competition is fierce and you are now not only competing with your countrymen but also endless supply of third worlders, some of which are hard working, decent looking, and willing to breed the average white woman and wage his life away for a chance to wash away his non-white genes.
No point mentioning the fact that all women who are worth their shit are already taken or the fact that a large part of women would rather be part of Chads harem playing the sex kitten.

I hate women's behavior and choices. Fuck off back to plebbit.

That's where this shit comes from, mostly from spic/arab countries who spoil their women even with feminism in place.

It comes from kikes you fucking retard

Since 2007 the birthrate in America collapsed. All else is irrelevant until this is recertified. They do not have the right to abdicate their sole role.

I like when women call out women in general because they sure as hell wont hear it from a man.

I have had sex with women, I have made women cum, I like women sleeping in my bed, I can talk to women and they laugh at my jokes.
You are failures. You are dead ends. No one will be with you, no one will be bred by you.
This little angry butter life of resentment is all you will ever have.

go back to pleb i dont like hearing things that are hard to accept

also let me just no you

As i said, you guys belong on/r9k/
Go masturbate over Elliot roger

lol I'm the one declining women as soon as they ask me to call an uber for them. Post body and post the body of the girl who spoils you for nothing. Hot girls don't do that for non-Chads, period.

triggered spic-sandnigger
Feminism comes from jews, which has conquered western countries. The old world chivalry shit and extreme spoiling of women was dead for a good number of years.

With whites disappearing in western countries, the imported cultures from spic/sandnigger countries is now prevailing - which includes max simping for women WHILE feminist structures still exist. Totally insane. Brown simps are the root of the problem. Or really white men for allowing jews/browns to exist at all

You’ll be alright. Just keep trying and improving yourself
Irl works best for me, but you do you

This is not a practical consideration, and therefore irrelevant. Defeat me in the marketplace of ideas, Liberal.

the quality of women is so poor that marriage is no longer enticing. id rather just bang a fuck buddy and then go home by myself.

muh ideals

Lol, nope. Ideals fade, progeny can last forever.

ANYTHING I DONT LIKE IS LIBERAL

you have a small mind dont you? Did you struggle in school?

progeny

Irrelevant. It doesn't matter the lineage, only the quality. Cloning is available, and we should be using it.

ANYTHING I DONT LIKE IS LIBERAL

I'm mocking you, retard. Your attachment is death.

Then they get old and bloated. It's not that hard to live alone if you're a man.

If I didn't believe humanity was overpopulated, I'd be a very different person. But I do, so stfu about the dating market. Idgaf, man. Make some fucking friends. You don't need friends to fuck. That goddamn fascist Musk is neglecting babies so you don't have to.

women have reclaimed all the benefits of traditional chivalry, dubbed "princess treamtnet" on social media in a viral trend. Women now demand, and expect, men to pay 100% of dates (50/50 men are the ick), men to drive them everywhere as "passenger princess", men to call them an uber to a first date, men to send them flowers on a date (even a first date), men to fix all their problems, men to give them money for nothing , men to be providers and protectors, men to cook for them, men to keep them in their "feminine energy" (aka having every single problem handled for them so they don't have to worry about anything)

Legalize prostitution. Problem solved. I've fucked hundreds of prostitutes over the course of my life and would never put up with this game show style bullshit just for a chance to sniff some mid pussy. Simps exist because prostitution is illegal which drives all incels to interact with females solely with fake online engagement, driving up the cost of hoeflation which literally ruins it for everyone else in the dating market.

I have made women cum

ohhh WOW get a load of this CHAD here guys. Spoken like a 16 year old.

Notice he didn't dispute anything in the OP, so he simps for women in the hopes they sleep with them, then pats himself on the back when they piss in his bed, like it's a remarkable achievement he bases his self worth around.

Why not just get jacked and stop being a pussy too afraid to talk to chicks?

Lol you're gay as fuck bro.

Problem not solved. 3rd world countries have legalized prostitution and women their demand more princess treatment than anywhere else.

Simps will pay directly for pussy, then go simp online for women for free, pay for their OF, etc. Changes nothing.

You're just as bad as a simp paying for some rotted out snatch where 10 other fat fucks have been that very same day. The quality of the sex is also gutter tier, just jack off and save yourself the humiliation.

It's The Worst Time in History For A White Man To Date
BBC are drowning in white pussies.

I stopped giving a shit about white western women and everything changed, literally have asian, desi and black women lining up now.

The annoying thing is now I get attention white women have taken notice but I have zero interest in a 28-38 year old divorced white woman who has a kid to some retard with all that drama when I have 20-25 year old foreign women treating me like a king. I'd rather stick to my own but western women are so fucking scuffed it's insane.

White women did this to themselves.

holy fucking incel cringe thread
touch some grass
go for a run
lift some weights
go out for some coffee
JUST GO OUTSIDE YOU PATHETIC LOSERS

We live in different times now. The past no longer applies. The only thing that could fix today's dating issues is a catastrophe that forces people to work together again. Which likely won't happen in our lifetime. Until then, good luck gambling for that unicorn.

The annoying thing is now I get attention white women have taken notice

The biggest black pill here too has been the fact that a lot of them are not even single, it's pretty 50/50, it's clearly a monkey branching thing, part of me wants to lead a few of these women on then tell thier husbands and boyfriends they are absolute disloyal whores.

Breaking up families would be rough but I think I'd be doing some of these guys a favor.

Having been chad, and having not been Chad at different points of my life this is true. The way women treated me when I was non-Chad absolutely redpilled me when they were all fighting over me and buying me shit and begging for me. I just can’t look at women the same knowing that you can date me at one point in my life and see me as just another replaceable man, yet when I get jacked, successful, and groom myself it’s like u unlocked a super power. I never capitalized on my chad genetics in youth and always thought I was ugly.

die anti incel kike

sneed

I'm not a chad I'm basically an average dadbod smart white guy, probably a little more jacked and physically strong than average though, but I'm pretty stable in my life and as I'm in my 30s the younger attractive foreign women 18-30 are seeing me as a catch, the white women are seeing me as a monkey branch, I don't think they understand I'm not interested in a 34 year old with two kids, tattoos, debt and a divorce when I've literally got repeat dates lined up with 21 year old desi women who treat me right, are affectionate as heck, reply to texts instantly, cook... the full works.

yeah bro hot women literally FOUGHT over me, I was such a chad

Post stats and body. Hot women, even above average women, would never do this for a sub 9/10 Chad. Larping or sleeping with uggos, simple as

My experience with poor but attractive women from asia, south east asia and south west asia is, be white, don't be fat, be 6 foot tall and be sweet, show some interest in their culture.

That's it, you'll have at least a few top tier (relative) for thier country women showing interest, then when you are out in public, other women will start eyeing her up, then giving you the head to foot.. some are bold enough to flirt but the ladies I've been dating cling to my side like glue and give them the stink eye if other women even talk to you in public, it's wild.

Western women are an absolute disaster, they are almost all selfish, entitled, morally devoid monkey branches looking for the next guy they can jump too, who is better than what they have.

you should literally pay for the date if you asked the person out

don't breed, goy, we need your women for porn

oh, but do pay for that porn

How about you stop handing out blackpills, and start taking cyanide?

The thread is about western dating. I've dated in South America. Is it better? Yeah, though the women are even more entitled, more retarded, prone to using foreign men

Not the problem. The standard has shifted to paying for EVERY date.

I've been alternating, I pay for one, she pays for the next, the way I do it though is generally ill take her somewhere she has shown interest in, then for follow ups I'll take her on a picnic but she brings food/snacks she made etc.

It's not really an offer on my part though more of a demand, like "we are going on a picnic and you are making the food", rather than an ask, perhaps that's the difference.

You get FOB gooks to pay for 50/50 of dates huh lol

Larp confirmed

I've not dated Latinas but find them attractive totally would, my experience is mostly asian, desi etc.

I wouldn't say they are easy, you have to woo them, but they have low dating expectations, it's like being a teenager again. They don't expect fancy shit, but if you take them someplace fancy after a couple of sweet simple dates you are pretty much getting laid, it requires effort, but they are not cold like white western women.

Hey it's working for me, other anons results may vary, also it's im not seeing a gook.

It has never been easier for average/normal men. You faggots would know that if you ever got off the computer and went outside and interacted with normal people in the real world instead of living entirely online and only having social "interactions" with other terminally online shut-ins.
You are making all of these claims about what things are like today, but I and anyone else who actually has a social life can immediately tell that you are basing it all on the retarded fake and gay shit you see online and that you have zero actual first hand experience with women or dating or sex or relationships.
Are you zoomer retards ever going to understand that the shit you see on social media is not the real world? It's fiction, fake bullshit intentionally designed to cause an emotional response that leads to viewer engagement and clicks and likes and subscribes.

Bro are you a retard you only pay for dates the first few times until you hit it then you either dump that cubt or if you want to keep dating for some reason you go half and half. Sure maybe you “pay the bill” but you make that bitch Venmo you her half of the dinner. Unless it’s like an anniversary or something you don’t have pay for anything besides your food. Stop being a faggot every good chick worth dating will go half and half

Our society is too far gone, our birthrates are already leading us rightly into a population collapse. I blame weak men. We are supposed to be the logical sex who keep everything in check. Letting women in the adults room was a gigantic mistake. Turns out there is a reason why 99% of civilizations are patriarchy with strong chastity/marriage culture.

The modernity experiment of casual dating and feminism has clearly failed, the west has simply gathered enough wealth to prolong the inevitable for few more decades.

Don't be angry or worried, the problem will literally solve itself - sooner or later we will be replaced by muslim / african civilizations with 5+ kids each and with women put in their place. Hopefully they will learn from our mistakes and never try to implement "equal rights".

There's one very important thing that every man should do at the bare minimum and that is refusal to betabux. Half the reason women can fuck around in their twenties is because there is essentially a 100% chance one they hit thirties there WILL be a man with 0 principles who has somehow convinced himself that her past doesn't matter and will cover for her. Have some self respect, don't do that

Women now have an abundance of men to chose from online.

Yeah but they don't. They choose from the men in their social circles and the ones they meet at IRL social events.

Every average woman and above who has social media, and they all do, is bombarded with hordes of male attention and suitors.

Which is ignored because it's all coming from thirsty desperate losers and friendzoned beta males and weird shitskins.
The guys blowing up chicks' phones get zero pussy, those girls are showing those messages to their friends and the guys they actually fuck to laugh at and make fun of the pathetic thirst.

But this also happens in real life, at school, in their social circle and everywhere else they go.

Yeah, and they ignore most of it.

They are importing millions of men every year into the west and have been doing this for decades now.

LOL no attractive White girl wants to have anything to do with those shitskins.

The competition is fierce and you are now not only competing with your countrymen but also endless supply of third worlders,

LOL no, there is basically no competition because so many men are either shitskins or incels.

No point mentioning the fact that all women who are worth their shit are already taken

There are literally like tens of thousands of new women hitting the age of consent every single day.

or the fact that a large part of women would rather be part of Chads harem playing the sex kitten.

Honestly, the women who end up in Chads harem are usually relatively dumpy and mid. The higher value, better looking ones lock down Brad into a serious relationship.
Also, Chad's harem is usually like one main chick, one side chick trying to become the main chick, and occasionally hooking up with randoms.
The oil shieks and billionaires who have actual harems of women are so rare that they are statistically irrelevant. And the women they have in their harems are about 6 tiers above any woman you are ever going to be in the same room with.

Since 2007 the birthrate in America collapsed.

You are falling for a jew psyop. They are trying to make it seem like there is a major problem that needs to be immediately fixed by importing millions of brown thirdworlders into every White western country.
It's not a serious problem and it isn't something that just happened.