Roman Dodecahedrons, what were they for?
most date between the 2nd and 4th century AD
mostly found along the roman frontier in Gallo-Roman sites
sometimes found with stocks of coins, though not always
have been found in Britain
Some have intricate designs, but none have any writing
no written accounts of them have ever been found
What did they use them for?
Roman Dodecahedrons, what were they for?
They are not roman, they are druid artifacts. The romans kept them as curiosities. I read a writeup by some new zealander years ago where he argued that these were to be used as surveying tools for measuring distances and areas. The holes are for making measuring sticks of a certain thickness.
I've seen this thing in path of exile
They stuck their wee-wees into them.
Don't ask why.
they used them for weaving ropes
beanie babies of the ancient era.
This and sails, and also for knitting gloves and tiny things. They never fell out of use. The toy known as a 'jack' was also used by knitters and derives from this same contraption.
date to 4th century
whatever they are the jesuits clearly didnt want us to know.
maybe its a tool to calculate the date
They were for knitting unironically. They figured this out a decade ago when a woman used it for knitting and it works perfectly for sewing and repairing gloves
they're buttplugs for poofters
knob polishers
come in diffferent sizes
just add lube
used by Roman army
Roman fingerbox
Probably just trinkets, requiring a skilled smith to make. Explains why theyre often found with other things of value. Even the Romans had fads
Not true. Actually trying to use them for that is highly impractical
Lmao
plumbing. thats a modular junction and valve. very clever.
If they were used to make ropes then they would show up much more commonly on coastal areas, but they are most common along the Rhine frontier. If they were useful to rope making then coastal communities would surely pick them up, yet they didn't.
knitting gloves
The knitting technic used to make gloves using dodecahedrons wasn't invented until the 15th century, so knitting wool gloves it's definitely out of the table.
Whats fucked up is Northern (White) Italy used to be entirely Celtic. Romans basically stole all of the Gauls inventions and artefacts and called them their own.
Gauls were white and Romans were we wuzzing niggers who stole their culture.
Put it this way: if Gauls were REALLY such backwards, barbarian savages, then why did the Romans name almost all their major towns and cities after them? Venice is named after the Celtic Veneti. Milan is named after the Celtic word Medhelanon. Genoa is named after the Celtic word Genua which means mouth of a river. Vienna is named after the Celtic word for 'white'. Zurich is named after the Celtic word Tūros. People in Northern Italy and Switzerland still speak Gallo-Italic or Cisalpine languages.
Brother I knit and weave
This is exactly what they’re used for
Here is a woman and her playlist of making a pair of gloves with them
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it goes up your ass for self pleasure
The name "Tiber," referring to the river in Italy, likely has a pre-Latin, possibly Etruscan or Italic, origin, with a possible Celtic connection. The Celtic root "dubr" or "dubro," meaning "river" or "water," has been suggested as a possible source for the name, and this root also appears in the name Dover.
The name Rhine, used for the river in Europe, originates from Gaulish. In Gaulish, the river was known as "Rēnos," which was later adapted into Latin as "Rhenus" and Greek as "Rhēnos" during Roman-era geography.
Danube is an Old European river name derived from the Celtic 'Danu' or 'Don' (both Celtic gods), which itself derived from the Proto-Indo-European *deh2nu.
Those winged helmets that Romans depicted and the Horned helmets that are attributed to Vikings? Both are Celtic designs.
A Celtic helmet with a bird crest was found in Romania and dates back to the 3rd century BC. The crest featured wings that articulated, meaning they moved up and down when the wearer moved.
i dont know, but they were probably something to do with romano-gaulish culture, based on the distribution
when i was a kid i thought asterix and obelix were vikings
Northern Italy was populated by Etruscans
Their civilization was destroyed by Celtic invaders
Caesar's invasion of Gaul was supposed retaliation for this.
From what I can see the notches on it are made so you can grip it easier and turn it.
While looking through it.
The ports match up side to side so if you look through a port you can see through it.
Therefore the ports likely had lenses, probably magnification. With different ports having different levels of magnification.
I'd argue it was probably used for viewing maps in detail.
Or for anything requiring magnification.
Which they did have in Rome.
A lot of kids did. Jews fear the Gaul.
It's a toy. Next.
Studies of ancient Etruscan remains have revealed that a significant portion, around 75%, of the male individuals carried the R1b-M269 haplogroup.
Etruscans were just Gauls by another name.
Probably just trinkets, requiring a skilled smith to make. Explains why theyre often found with other things of value. Even the Romans had fads
Agreed. Someone made one to display their metal working skill, others followed suit after seeing one, then they figured out people would buy them. Machinists make all sorts of impractical shit just because they can, then others try to do reproduce. Makes more sense than any other explanations.
Anything’s a sex toy if you’re brave enough
Making gloves. This was solved a while back.
Flag checks.
It is one of many weak theories.
What did they use them for?
they make you impervious to jewish tricks, more lost roman knowledge.
Sounds plausible. Source?
I hear the Greeks used them as butt plugs.
Probably some based reasons that christcucks and then kikes try to shut it down
I stared at the thumbnail for a while wondering if the guys were too smol or the hand too big.
perspective trick
disappoint
next? ok, what about the bread loaf tablets?
That's a finger box, retard
bottom second from right clearly reads "u r a fgt"
Actually.. below replies seem more intuitive based on its shape. It does give the impression of some kind of multi-tool, so maybe it had many uses because geometry can enable many things.
Stored aetheric information. If you know you know.
these are just contracts.
They were some kind of knitting/crocheting device for fabric.
Those are clearly for channeling magic.
Etruscans were R1B Steppe bros. They even used the Swastika.
That they're found in coin hoards makes it pretty obvious to me, as is the fact why people have to pretend their purpose is unknow and not obvious. They're a standardized control for checking the size of various coins in the face of coin clipping. Jews did this and talking about it is heckin antisemitic.
Satan, you pull ropes and use the small nubs to help you form a quick knot. Sailing those rough seas would be greatly assisted with these devices. And, yes, some buried coins in them because divining rods could easily find them later after they came back from war, if they survived. Some might have even repaired fishing nets with them. Support your local archaeologist today.
Penis inspection day. It's for matching unmarried men and women without them having sex out of wedlock.
iPhones, next.
Roman legionaries used to hang them from their belts with other ornaments to give a distinctive sound when they marched. True story.
More than likely it's just a generic trinket. You'll hear a lot of theories about knitting or timekeeping or whatever but the argument basically amounts to "you can use it for thing so that's what it must be for." It would be like looking at one of those Tesla coil toys, noting that you can turn a fluorescent bulb on with it, and concluding they were designed to do that.
People like having nice things. These dodecahedra would be difficult to produce during the time and demonstrated the craftsman's skill.
Until we find some sort of documentation showing that people actually used these objects for any practical purpose, safest bet is they were ancient funko pops.
Maybe they were fidget spinners
Why do places Romans conquered from the Celts have Celtic names?
Truly a headscratcher that one, a conundrum for the ages, the brightest minds of the world have yet to figure out that one. Same as why cities in Greece had Greek names and why Punic cities had Punic names. I'm afraid we'll never truly know the answer.
Those winged helmets that Romans depicted and the Horned helmets that are attributed to Vikings? Both are Celtic designs.
Horned helmets are common in the whole of Europe since the Bronze age, see the Nuragic culture statuettes or the Scandinavian petroglyphs. Winged helmets dating back to the 4th century BC have been found in Greece and Italy, there's no definitive proof of who copied who, and since the earlier designs are from Greece and Southern Italy the archeological evidence points to there as the origin.
Then why would they be in piles of coins?
Probably gambling
This is cope, the original Romans were white before they racemixed and became brown. There's a reason over half of Italian men are R1B, predominantly in the North and Central Italy.
Southern Italians were always uncivilised browns.
You dont name cities after your enemies. Use your brain Ronaldo.
They were found in many different contexts. People were buried with them, they were found in military caches, theaters, riverbeds, etc.
Have you personally used one? I looked through the playlist and it looked difficult to use and she said almost straight away that the different hole sizes were useless for the purpose
Probably just people having fun with clay/stone, possibly children. You never make some useless thing in tech at school just to get used to the equipment?
Reminder that brown people stole all of R1B civilisation and claimed it as theirs.
they would use weight scales for that, mydude.
Then shouldnt the sides be labeled? They are also not standardized, even tho coins were.
Why? I had to ask
requiring a skilled smith to make. Explains why theyre often found with other things of value.
One theory it's that's they are masterpieces, objects purely used to show the skill of a craftsman, used to prove one's worthiness to join a craftsman's guild (collegia). It would explain the limited chronology and geography, just the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, along the Rhine frontier with some outliers in Hungary and Britain. It would also explain being kept with other valuables in hoards and in funerary contexts, since craftsmen would be proud of their belonging to a collegia.
Roman Dodecahedrons, what were they for?
It's a candle clock. The holes are different sizes so they can accept a variety of candle sizes. The bigger candles were used during winter, and the smaller candles were used during summer.
they were used for penis inspection day
This. They’re literally tools that were used on ships all around the Mediterranean at the time.
wouldnt work without knowing coin dimensions
You're the only useful anon here.
they're a cypher and they send information that can't be decoded without undoing the entire code
that they remain a mystery means it's probably related to hidden hand stuff
I believe this unironically. It was probably part of a broader kit for surveying, dowsing and etc. My grandpa (very Anglo-Saxon) was a surveyor and would do water witching and I asked him what he was even doing and where he learned to do it so well. The Catholic church had even banned such practices. It's no doubt druids and probably some kind of warrior/builder equivalent in NW European cultures would try to maintain such knowledge.
I know it's a trope like some schizo in the desert trying to form a boom town in a western or something. But this is a 100% real, repeatable thing with underground waterways and other phenomena that druids seem to have been experts at.
Look at this advanced ancient artifact made from lost technology!
it's just a primitive fidget spinner
If I knew I sure wouldn't give you that info for free without getting any kudos, you jew
We wuz kangs
I can believe that. Depends on just how difficult they are to make. I expect that level of precision required a skilled craftsmen, given how janky other shit from the same time period looked, but I dont know enough about roman smithing to know how highly skilled.
Imagine clearing the wax out of that thing
Bullshit
They didn't named their cities after they enemies dumbass, they just kept the Celtic names after they conquered the place, same thing they did all over the Empire.
Where are Roman cities with Celtic names in North Africa and the Near East then? If the Romans were truly Celts, then they would name cities in those regions with Celtic names.
Use your head you wannabe Mick.
This. Therell be a thread in a thousand years, god willing, discussing fidget toys claiming they were for sewing and bum fun
Imagine clearing the wax out of that thing
wax melts when hot.
IT WAS LEFT BY THE AYYS
THE ROMANS WERE AYYS
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
wtf are you talking about. A 1oz roman denarii should weigh 1 oz, regardless of its dimensions.
craftsmen masterpieces
You guys are certainly on the level
Blue Archive for me
is there a 3d model available for free that is roughly historically accurate?
those turn on ancient dwarven shop lights in elder scrolls
No they’re for games of chance. Like big dice. They were made by the black African Nubians using their advanced metallurgy skills.
This is the hidden truth, they were used by Roman Ayys to smoke several joints at once.
Yes then, when the wick runs out, it cools and is stuck at the bottom of its container. You never own a candle?
It also wouldnt be good at stopping the wax spilling out all over the surface you place it on
yeah, a dodecahedron has been around for a little while. not much more to change with it since it's already solved
It was a device for soothing horses. Insane how long this debate has been going on for.
We name cities after savage Siberian tribes all the time. Beats naming everything after yourself. We do that sometimes too though.
Is that an original finger box?
its a dice roller.
Not solved.
Roman fingerbox
This.
100% real, repeatable
Then why can't any of them repeat it under consistent test conditions, even when there's a cash prize?
en.m.wikipedia.org
Correct. Watch this series.
Because anti-faith is also magical power. :^)
That whole it's obviously photoshopped
roman
some gay shit for sure
If only there was a way to melt the wax off a metal object... I'm dumbfounded.
incredibly ignorant post
that looks to me like an example of a bamboo, pre-Ay-O fingerbox, likely recovered from Iwo Jima
"There are rumors that they were invented before WWII, however this is unconfirmed. It is said that all of the original Finger Boxes were destroyed during the fighting."
that particular specimen would demand several thousands of dollars at auction, at the least, as a good copy, and a lot more if its historicity could be verified
although... very few come with their original certificates
I don't think it's supernatural as in, a physical phenomena is occuring it's just that we currently suck at explaining it. Nor do I think it's some spirit guiding copper rods, it's clearly magnetic or something. Someone better educated may be able to explain stuff like this: youtube.com
There were some apparent mechanical advantages to pattern welded swords over monosteel swords for instance. Generally Celts and Germanics used pattern welded designs until about after the time of Charlemagne. It was less economically viable if you could make decent enough steel through centralized methods but with pattern welding skills, basically you can become a terror on this earth even with a small quantity of decent steel. There were first hand accounts of pattern welded swords doing things later Damascus steels (a monosteel from Asia of a similar look) couldn't achieve, but engineering terms like tensile strength, ductility, etc kind of run into a brick wall when you're trying to describe a sword that bends, twists and carved into shields and bones and comes right back to form when you pull it away.
So you have to use terms like mechanical property advantages to explain a phenomena as best as one can, because the technological ability is or was literally lost. We've been able to replicate Damascus steel but getting these pattern welded blades right, even the pommels of some has proven more challenging. And this innovation came from the La Tene culture. Many such cases.
Only recently did we discover that Anglo-Saxons were making a quality of steel that was on par with Huntsman's developments in the 1700's with crucible steel. Yet they still kept making pattern welded blades until the Norman conquest.
Im not saying its impossible, its impractical. Why would you design a candle holder that requires extra effort to remove the wax from, and that leaks wax in many directions?
incredibly ignorant post
True, I wrote "whole" instead of "hole"
As for the rest of your post it's clear bait, but in the slight chance it isn't, the wood grain in the sides of the hole continues into the hole.
it's just a primitive fidget spinner
For keeping morons occupied.
Still works today.
I'm literally quoting wikipedia
Not Roman.
Technological devices.
We already had a couple of threads about it.
if the dimensions arent correct then its a different metal.
trust is the chinese plastic trinket copies is what everybody used . for kniiiiiiiiiiittiiiiing.
Actually no.
any wax struck on it melts off near a heat source. They've been found with wax on them.
Bottom left hole is considerably larger.
This was mounted on a shaft of some sorts.
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Heh mount this shaft here anon
*unzips dick*
I believe such a device is very useful for holding candles because the many different sized holes ensure that at least one hole will fit a candle snugly so that the candle is straight up, won't fall over, and will burn evenly without dripping wax all over the place.
I believe this unironically. It was probably part of a broader kit for surveying, dowsing and etc.
This .
As a result in modern times, we have metal acoustic resonance guitars.
steel body resonator guitars
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Did Romans wear gloves? Seems like mittens would be way easier to make. This also ignores the high cost and high level of craftsmanship to make one of these out of cast bronze.
I don't have a better theory but it seems like experts don't necessarily agree this was the main use of the things.
It would be interesting if Romans actively tried to erase them from the historic record. The 12 sides might have something to do with pagan stuff?
I have gold coin that is 1 inch across and 0.125 inches thick
I have 10% gold 90% copper alloy coin that is 1 inch across and 0.125 inches thick
They look the same
Same dimensions
How would you tell them apart without a scale?
If you want to do it the hardcore way you would immerse it in water like Pythagoras did. This lets you measure water displacement in a graduated cylinder to get the exact volume. Then weight it. Then divide one by the other to get its exact density. Pretty sure this method is still used today. Its non destructive and very reliable.
Here in Portugal, a similar traditional way of finding underground water ways it's holding a green olive branch that twists in your hands when it's above water.
I used to think it was bullshit and dudes were just guessing where the water was out of experience and twisting the branch themselves.
Until I tried it myself and it fucking works, the olive branch starts twisting on its own when you are above a water way, you can see it twisting and if you try to hold it still you can feel it trying to twist. It only does it when you're above a water way, otherwise it stays still. And I'm sure there was a water way underneath since I know where my ancestors dug tunnels for water, my family has lived on the same plot of land since the early 19th century.
I can't explain how that shit works, I just know it does.
Bruh, look at that wood grain, it doesn't even match the grain on the top of the box. It's obvious someone just pasted a generic wood picture on top and shaded it to make it look like a hole, even the perspective isn't right.
found with wax
Orly? Source?
Anything designed to hold candles will have a closed base so the wax doesnt get on the surface, simple as. If theyd been found with an accompanying dish Id be convinced
This seems reasonable, but wouldnt they also be made out of clay? Why do you need the little knobs sticking out?
The people find underground water REPEATEDLY. and you can train yourself to do it if you are sensitive enough.
Still well drillers are using their skills to find underground water and drill wells.
What is this "Paranormal" challenge is probably either some BS or the way to identify and recruit people with paranormal skills.
that do exist in bunches.
human brain differs massively , so some people can hear 10x better, smell 10x better etc. etc
other people can call that ability abnormal or "paranormal "
But this is a 100% real, repeatable thing with underground waterways and other phenomena that druids seem to have been experts at.
I used to work in Public Works, and when we'd get USA calls (Call before you dig!) we used our shovels to witch the water mains because it was a podunk town of 2000 with garbage utility maps.
Dowsing is very real and still used today
you need both dimensions and weight dumbass
these are clearly a FINGER BOX!
They are relics of Apollo.
That's incredible anon. I was thinking it had to be an electrical reaction but such an oily wood doing that, has my noggin joggin.
My uncle's buddy worked in Public Works too and said the same. He knew all kinds of stuff like that that no nerd seems to be able to explain.
All the well drillers in my area either dowse or have a dowser on call.
I don't think such a shape would last long if it was made of clay. The balls add stability. Metal was scarce and valuable so having a near universal candle holder makes sense to me.
it's obviously a jewelers tool for chain making.
sometimes found with stocks of coins, though not always
I know what it is. It's for authenticating currency. Different sized holes means you should have a specific view at a specific hole size.
The balls are to raise it off thr tables surface so you can view the coin from above.
I solved it! It's Tuesday ancient equivalent of fake money detector markers.
I'm gonna amend this a bit as any kind of chain would be serious tech so it may have had a lot of military purposes as well. but most of the time this will be for jewelry making.
*it's the ancient equivalent of a fake money detector marker
Holy Shit auto correct
That would be easy to corroborate with roman coins, which clearly hasnt been done
burning incense
That's a really good argument. It makes even more sense then as a bursar or surveying tool. Both the man handling the money and the architect are up late at night.
I really hope we find further evidence of their use. It would be trivial to test example coins.
between 2nd and 4th
metalworkers were dime a dozen and fucking bored so they ascended to this artisan shit, and the nobles had plenty of money to blow on useless souvenirs, there's no higher meaning to it, just a bunch of fucking pet rocks or funkos of their age
Fired clay is very strong. It can last millennia. We still have clay pots from the Egyptian era.
finds roman butt plug
"omg it's ancient computer tech! call cnn!
ok faggot...
Then why didn't they label the sides? Are you just supposed to memorize what coin all 12 sides are for? They have never been found with writing on them.
The divine was so 7 Roman men could touch tips with out hands
There's a quote from a Roman saying that when Rome was collapsing it was really just all the white Romans fleeing to the gauls or gothic empire, I'll find it
Civilizational collapse is just white flight
Romans probably saved every bit of wax drippings they could find to make more candles out of it. They probably ran out of wax sometimes and could only make small thin candles and these fit in the small holes of the dodecahedrane.
What's funny is Jesus was from Gaualee or Galilee and they forbid Jews from entering yet Jesus walked free
you stick your fingers in there. it's like a fidget spinner
Right, but it's not strong in the shape of a 'holy' dodecahedron.
You're not the genius you think you are Anon, that theory it's listed on Wikipedia and it doesn't account for being mostly found in the Rhine Frontier, the Roman equivalent of bumfuck Alabama. If it was a handy way of detecting counterfeit or adulterated coinage it would be found all across the Empire, especially in places of high mercantile activity such as Rome itself or Alexandria.
You swallow a long chain, then attach the hedron. Then you pull it through your digestive system backwards to clear out any fecal impactions.
See vid. They didn't have tires back then
He doesn't know
Sewing
Looks like Rome had 10 types of coins of various sizes. You could also try pushing the coin through a hole to verify it hasn't been tampered with (shaved).
That's the only explanation that makes sense with people keeping one around their coins.
mason...what do the balls mean, mason...
Also the fact they are made of a copper alloy which is expensive. Only bankers would have use for them, and would easily be able to afford them.
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This goldsmith makes a good case. I also watched someone make one and it didnt form properly across a thin edge because they didnt make it hot enough, supporting this theory.
It makes sense historians cant figure this out because they cant be arsed looking into different domains of expertise, and default to typical arguments of hurr candle holder durr measuring device, and lack the imagination to think of the Romans as real people with real frivolities no different from people today.
All the theories of them being useful are so easy to debunk. If theyre used by military, youd find them on battlefields, if for rope youd probably find more around ports.
It seems they were found near metal deposits, where youd have foundries, and not spread around the empire because they had NO PRACTICAL PURPOSE, then kept or bought by the rich cause theyre novel and made of bronze.
found it finally
only explanation
Or cause theyre valuable, duh
Do the holes match the sizes of roman coins?
Doing more research the hole sizes are often 9-40mm.
How big are the Roman coins?
13, 17, 28, 33, 17, 20, 23
Roman Dodecahedrons
They are relics of a 'relatively' better time
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giants exist and were 9+ feet tall
there was a hierarchy in society based on height and ancestry
we reached several times peak civilization
we go fucked so hard by the Annunaki/Reptilians (who are real and the true gods of the jews)
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The knitting technic used to make gloves using dodecahedrons wasn't invented until the 15th century, so knitting wool gloves it's definitely out of the table.
wow WOW shit nigger it’s not like technology and techniques may have been lost during the fall of the Roman Empire and the fucking collapse of civilization huh I mean like that’s crazy huh
negroid we are not talking about ancient cell phones and laser swords we are talking about a specialized knitting jig that’s difficult for an artisan to craft
It matches up. It's probably a fucking coin sorter too. Toss in a few coins shake it, the small ones fall out the bottom. Turn it, the larger ones fall out, turn it again.
That explains the raises legs...
Knitting socks.
If these were precise astrological implements there wouldn't be so much variance in their size. Smallest made for 9-17mm, largest 28-40mm.
It's either for verifying coin size or sorting coins. Maybe both.
never underestimate the lure of Goth tiddies
the ancient romans were huge dungeons and dragons nerds.
I'll make a meme image explaining it's a coin sorter when I get home.
advanced power couplings, obviously
And the fairy tale desert worshipers that only care about his delusion shows up to gaslight the thread and mock the ancient romans.
Kys, tranny kike slave.
Apparently, candles were used only for special occasions. Only rich people could afford the nice beeswax candles. Beef tallow candles stank. These dodecahedrons were pretty fancy so I figure they could have held candles for these ceremonies. Beeswax had religious significance to romans.
Ancient equivalent of a fidget spinner…all the stupid theories are funny tho
Wax was only used in candles around the 1500's. Roman candles were made of tallow, but they were rare since they mostly used olive oil lamps like picrel, which are found all through out the Empire.
He says it's related to tin smelting, however the main sources for tin in Roman times were Britain and Iberia, it would make no sense to carry tin to notoriously dangerous Rhine Frontier to smelt it into bronze there then carry it to somewhere else. Tin would travel by ship from Britain and Iberia directly to where was needed, most wouldn't even be near the Rhine Frontier except for the tin used locally.
I'm honestly leaning to the masterpiece of acceptance into a collegia explanation since it's the only one that accounts for every fact we know about the dodecahedrons.
Interesting. I think historians are dumb generally but surely not that dumb to miss something so obvious…
Would need to see a real test of it as a sorter to see if its really practical
It's literally a coin sorter haha. You don't need prcise measurements for it to work properly. It explains the sizes being similar to many coins, and the variance in hole size. Some made for smaller coins, some made for larger ones.
Why the raised knobs, and so many sides? Wouldn't a cone facing upwards make a fine candle holder? Can you add a tray below that to catch all the wax? Wouldn't the be found not corroded with wax all over them?
Romans used beeswax candles for religious ceremonies.
proto jew canaanites had elites who belonged to group r1b who styled themselves after Egyptians, who also had r1b elites and pharaohs at that period
the story of human history is the story of r1b's with very very few exceptions
it's a universal candle holder. candles come in many sizes. they found one with wax on it.
Some made for smaller coins, some made for larger ones.
Impossible, coins back then weren't an exact science, and differents mints got differents methods, materials and dies. You can have sestertii and asses from the same geographic zone who vary so greatly in size only a scale would allow you to differentiate them if you were a novice.
Based historian. A test of sorts seems like the most viable answer but dunno if theyre impressive enough to be used as acceptance since theyre cast.
Wax from casting maybe?
Bread was probably just as delicious smelling back then. Imagine what a treat that could be, especially for a kid.
I find that hard to believe because then it makes the point of currency pointless.
Wax would be burnt up during casting. If these were candle holders they would all be covered in wax.
Inland, but not found in coastal areas. Hmmm.
(following greentext is from the google machine's AI blurb, so...I'm not saying this lol. I don't know shit about the topic.)
Roman chariots had cylindrical wheel spokes
Roman chariot wheel spokes typically had tenons, or projections, on both ends. These tenons were inserted into corresponding holes in the rim and hub, creating a strong, durable connection.
I wonder if it could have been for measuring chariot or wagon wheel spoke replacements. Like, the inside ridge scores the tenon diameter, hole confirms the diameter of a cut tenon, and the outside groove scores the diameter of the spoke to be cut. I supposed if you had two of them, you could then put them on a horizontal surface, stick a tenon through each one's corresponding hole, and rotate it to make sure it's symmetrical?
was a surveyor and would do water witching
Water witching is fucking insane. I've seen it personally, water flew like 12ft in the air after a week of work trying to find a deep enough well. Dude did it in 15 min after shaking like he was having a seizure.
Its crazy.
A YouTuber (Amy gaines) claims they were used to knit gold wire into chain. That is plausible because it would only be used for expensive purposes.
Haven't read the thread but it's pretty obvious these are just ancient fingerboxes
Davinci was red haired and blue eyed. He was an R1B Celtic man of Gaulish descent.
It would be trivially easy to prove these as coin sorters. Compare the internal finish to the external one. Does it have signs of coins bouncing around inside? Looking at images the interior seems more corroded than the exteior.
Delve
Unironically yes
they used them for gambling
Go on reddit and look up the user vacciprata. He mentions how some of these had knobs fall off DISSOLVING FROM THE INSIDE.
These are COIN SORTERS and those ones had the knobs fall off from metal wear of bouncing coins, and too thin of a construction. You would want it thin because it's easier to shake.
it seems like experts don't necessarily agree
Most experts are total fuckknuckles. I would take Memaw's practical take over le scientist any day.
in Norton Disney, England, near a figurine of a godlike figure riding a horse.
AD
you mean CE? Cuck Era?
its probably a cock ring, a sex toy.
Your mom measures my thickness if you know what I mean
GaY
nigga u gay
They are part of the power source. Like the vessel that shapes the resonance.
That's why they have those ball bearings like they do. It slotted in the middle of something.
Maybe they were symbolic of certain mysteries and their frequency derives from then-popular understandings of philosophy.
Could be a tool to check that coins are correct size, and haven't been clipped.
But then the holes would exactly match sizes of common Roman coins, which I don't think is true.
looks a lot like the "covid" virus.
i'd wager that neither "covid" nor viruses are real, and more like spirits, and these where vessels for those spirits to inhabit (to prevent the population from being possesed)
hence why there's so many buried and "forgotten".
looking at them from a materialistic lens will make one oversee the spirtual influence of their culture
reminds me of this
Tutankhamun's grave was fake.
The "tomb" was found at the end of a fruitless expedition that ran out of money and there was an industry of faking mummies for tourists that they capitalized on.
en.wikipedia.org
The body is likely a child that was kidnapped, murdered and embalmed by arabs to sell to some stupid tourists or desperate archaeologists.
The egyptians have a particular taste for little boys and I would bet good money that the corpse if an analysis were ever allowed would show tissue damage and residue suggesting rape before the murder.
nice helmet
Is this loss?
this is why you cant Notice what it is btw, this single simple distinction. merely by accepting that premise of AD, your entire view of history becomes warped.
you literally not conceive of jews already having conquered rome from within because your timeline of history itself begins with an artificial history predicated on the jewish bible
so trying to explain to you all of the jewish humiliation rituals, things like this, its beyond the scope of your understanding.
repairing chainmail maybe? the knitting thing seems like just as big of a leap
IT WAS LEFT BY THE AYYS
THE ROMANS WERE AYYS
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
unironically.
they (romans of spartan blood) were the children of heracles, a demi god, aka, ayyy.
the whole purpose of rome was to conquer the world and then migrate into the kingdom taking mankind as captives
Gauls were almost completely wiped out by then you fucking retard.
Also, no people weren't fleeing Rome to live with Goths because they had a superior culture or whatever it is you're implying, it was because they thought they were stronger than a declining western Roman Empire and better able to offer them protection from other Germanic/Turkic tribes who were basically the niggers of the classical world
They are most likely a proof of skill for a smith. Knitting accouterments wouldn't be found in military camps and fortresses. Treasure hoards had them to prove the skill of the hoard owners smith. Makes sense to me.
this is the real explanation but Anon Babble worships Rome so they're going to attribute an ancient-aliens-tier explanation because these people are fucking dumb, or it's a giant laugh. I guess I'm daft if I can't tell the difference
The knitting technic used to make gloves using dodecahedrons wasn't invented until the 15th century
That's dumb
This thing that was definitely not for knitting turns out to be great for knitting
Seafarers needed different kinds of ropes. Duh.
The fact these things are only found in colder parts of the empire is the big clue that they had something to do with clothing
Knitting accouterments wouldn't be found in military camps and fortresses
Yes they would. Women stayed near soldiers all the time. Roman soldiers weren't supposed to be married but the leaders looked the other way until sometime after maybe 100 or 200 AD that rule was lifted
I bet you I could knit a sock with 2 lava lamps.
Gauls were Etruscans by another name and stupid
This is like Skyrim, when you go into the Dwarven vaults and discover they were an advanced civilization that disappeared. Real planet of the apes. Idiocracy
...would the projections on the corners of the dodecahedron correspond to resting on the radius of a wheel rim?
Twelve faces, each with a hole. Sizes vary. Twenty knobs on the edges.
Hole size = number input (1–5)
Twist right = add, left = subtract
Tilt up = multiply, down = divide
Knobs along edge = factor or step counter
Example:
Face A (hole size 3), tilt up to Face B (hole size 4) 3 × 4 = 12
Could’ve been:
A crop calculator
Range finder
Ritual number device
Or just Rome’s version of a fidget spinner for autistic engineers.
No inscriptions. No instructions. Just perfect bronze symmetry.
Fitting staffs with spearheads
England's was found with the statue of a god riding a horse.
Others with money.
Coins in the Roman era were not exact and perfect like we have today. They were hammered by hand so you'd have all sorts of irregular sizes of the same denomination. This also doesn't explain why all the dodecahedrons are slightly different in size. If they were for counting coins you'd think they'd all the same size with standardized holes.
I wonder if the holes held some.sort of insert. Like wood or clay. The metal would survive but the other materials would rot away with time.
Assuming the rim of a wheel could fit between two projections, this tool could be lashed down to a wheen rim for the centering of a tool used to drill spoke holes. As long as the wheels width is within the tolerance of the round projections, lashing it down would bring it dead center.
Its probably a rangefinder. eg if the enemy soldier fits in this size of window he is 300m away.
Yeah ok swamplord, lmao we wuz energy
It's a troon castration box. When they wanted to become a woman, they would stick their penis in one of the holes, then drive big long swords through all the other holes. If their penis was lopped off, they were officially a woman.
It seems like it would be used like some sort of bearing that could have a rod inserted through it or something. Then maybe remove tool and place in different location to change direction? Not sure but it looks cool. Could just be an art piece.
I find that hard to believe because then it makes the point of currency pointless.
Not once you are used to it. Your hands can feel weight anon..
And i'm telling you this because i actually have my hands on all kind of ancient coins, i trade them for a living.
By experience i can tell you a sestertius can have a diameter ranging from 30 to 39mm with the same weight in bronze. Do you know how many mints from all over the empire were strucking coins? Look at Vespasian, Aurelius, Hadrian, Octavius, etc... there are thousands of differents coins struck to their name. Each of these designs were individually struck. Meanwhile you have known ONE standard design for each of your denomination. You've known nothing but the 1 cent Lincoln. Under Titus you would had to deal with 800 differents variations of nummi.
Don't try to argue about things when you don't know the subject, anon-kun.
Was mithrasism a castration cult?
This was a larp but I'm afraid I might have cracked the case.
I find that hard to believe because then it makes the point of currency pointless.
Weight is more relevant than size
Equivalent of a contemporary fidget toy, used by Roman spergs to calm themselves whilst getting assraped by visigoths.
the thread could have ended and started here but morons needed to make another thousand replies of bullshit
It was used to measure penis girth so prostitutes can pick the right chick for your size
Well, it's kinda normal, you know the tools you use or are living around.
I could show you dozens of items/tools from farms from just one (1) century ago and you would have literally no fucking idea what it was used for. Do you deserve to be called an idiot for not knowing some obscur stuff you never needed to deal with?
Well, the entire history of technical progress is like that.
What book is that
Seems like mittens would be way easier to make
Meaning mittens were cheaper, but of course gloves still existed. The more expensive gloves used more expensive tooling. Not like these things are going to be destroyed making a glove.
The Christians would hide the history of the relics of Apollyon.
Solved it
360
The Mithras cult was popular with the legions.
No.
Mithraism is the Persian absorption of the Scythians similar to the Romans absorbing the Greek pantheon or trying to shove the Germanic one in too.
Its a pacification move to integrate unruly subjects.
There was a supposedly Scythian cult where only castrated crossdressers could be priests but I cant find enough sources on it and it may be propaganda of the time similar to how the Persians were framed as effeminate, perfume obsessed homosexuals.
Who knows tho?
Could be some truth to it just like it with the Persians.
They arent tools, there is no standardisation between them, some of them dont even have holes. They are apprentice workpeices to show off their metalworking skills.We even do this shit today.
Still popular today!
Scythian cult where only castrated crossdressers could be priests
Yeah sounds accurate.
Sorry to burst your bubble but masons are zionists and could not practice the tauroctony.
It had to be secret because it was illegal.
Those things don't worship logic.
Apollo is Plato's, Socrates', and Aristotle's God.
I heard there was a cult of Phoenicians who exchanged their sins in the ass of their prostitute priests.
Zionist Satanic Jews wrap their religion in neo-Mithraism and say how their "European Paganism" is superior to Christianity, and call Christianity Jewish (it's not.)
It seems someone, probably from this thread, have made a side thread about the same dodecahedron claiming it was a coin sorter
How interesting
Probably wrapped rope around it, stuck incense inside, and swung it around like the priests do
I'm honestly leaning to the masterpiece of acceptance into a collegia explanation since it's the only one that accounts for every fact we know about the dodecahedrons.
I'm sure that's false :^)
So anyway, is there a free model that's decent, free, for Blender?
slide thread
This thread is 70% over and such a big finding requires a separate OP. Call it an early #2. I did interesting research and cited my sources. The high quality threads that Anon Babble is missing.
Ribbed dildos
They say they still sacrifice their first born children to the cow god, some of them eat the remains.
That their golem protect their rituals under the guise of civil rights.
It doesn't spin or do anything.
I still have my grandpappy's fingerbox that he carved from the old willow out back. Buried him and grams under it and I swear I can still feel him pulling my finger whenever I use it.
Milk for the milk god.
Blood for the blood god.
Phoenicians do be like that.
oy vey goy dont you know that the explicitly ethno centric anti jewish movements are actually jewish plots?! Its true I tell you! Also that religion written by jews for jews actually has nothing to do with jews at all!
You okay?
Your AI sucks worse than most
bread loaf tablets?
Since they are from 2100-1400BC, and the stone age ended around 4000-2000BC, they are most likely currency. Nobody would carve stones into coins due to the labor. Baking the clay is an easier way to confirm specific pieces. I bet the numbers of holes is serialized so if someone tries counterfeiting it becomes obvious who owned #89 first. Everything else is decoration. Large size due to the fragility of clay.
Judaism was canonized 200 years after Jesus lived. Jews are only 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel. Not all Israelite are Jews, kike.
Is there evidence of Abrahamism outside of Phoenicia?
they are druid artifacts
tools that were used on ships all around the Mediterranean at the time.
WELL
WELL
WELL
Jews are only 1 of the 12 tribes of Israel
Bullshit and genetic testing proves how full of shit you are. There is no genetic link between ashkenazis or sephardis and the biblical israelites.
Not all Israelite are Jews, kike
Non sequitur.
likely
they were also fond of wearing beanies
experts don't necessarily agree
80% of historical experts are bookwise and have no expertise in blacksmithing or carpentry or any other ancient skill, let alone a modern degree in them.
That's why the advent of youtube is so great, it has made the more private types more accessible, who do have that expertise as well as the bookwork.
The things you learn from Tod's Workshop, you just don't see in a typical TV show with the typical historian.
There was a supposedly Scythian cult where only castrated crossdressers could be priests
what is the cult of attis
I'm pretty sure there was evidence of the old testamate outside of Phonecia....
It's factual.
youtube.com
It would be a trash candle holder lmao
look, try using a candle to read sometime. They sell super cheap taper candles at walmart, and at dollar tree they have super cheap candle holders. in a 100% dark inner room try to read a whole chapter :))))))))))))))))))))
*don't buy a dollar tree candle lmao
basic candle points
1. they are dim
2. closer you get your work/book to the flame the better. CLOSE.
3. closer you get, the better too.
so the best for reading is a bunch of short candles and a candle holder you can move around on top of your book
masons are zionists and could not practice the tauroctony.
prove it
Hey that looks like the statue of liberty. Is she a tranny?!
Looks like casting moulds for currency.
because im sure knitting and gloves were big money
imagine the money people spend on sneaker but 1000 years ago
the statue of liberty is tanit
the nigger-jew goddess of child sacrifice in
(((carthage)))
Pretty sure the cult of Ishtar did this? Of course, it should come as no surprise that multiple cults arose in antiquity, encouraging orgies and the blending of genders
this is the types of things that demons love, after all. as they are blatant and perverse violations of Gods design
Philosophers need freedoms in order to obtain the perfect republic.
The Phrygian cap is a symbol of freedom.
Freed slaves.
From a wrathful god.
It's factual.
No.
Genetic testing has proven that they are converts even highlighting that the palestinians are more closely related.
Pretty sure the cult of Ishtar did this?
all cults associated with
(((mother goddesses)))
had the males castrate themselves, typically during a "frenzied worship session"
the "gala" - the pp snippers and ancient nigger-jew demon/goddess worshipers did this
so too did the "galli" of ancient phrygia with their attis worship - which was exported later to rome - just like the "roman" version of mithras was brought to ancient italy, likely by kikes
They were made for chewing to build a strong jaw. Promoted by ancient influencers in the Rome square
prove it
Poof.
The Phrygian cap is a symbol of freedom.
then how come whenever i see a nigger-jew that "resembles" a white person but has pubic hair growing from their head - they'll wear a beanie on the top/back of their head all homo-nigger-jew gay-like
and i don't see anytone else doing this
the original
israel
was deported by the assyrians c. 725 BC, and supposedly
nobody knows what happened to them
but we know now
the assyrians deported them to live along the trade routes passing through ancient eastern anatolia, for the purpose of allowing the to continue their merchant ways, while the assyrians simply taxed them whether they were successful or not
during their prolonged stay among the ancient peoples of eastern anatolia
luwians
phyrgians
it was there that they picked up on the ancient pp cutter nigger-jew "mother goddess" worship, which they used as a weapon to trick non-nigger-jews into cutting their dicks off
i know judaism and mithraism/freemasonry are OBVIOUSLY related
but YOU SAID
masons are zionists
which i agree with, BUT
could not practice the tauroctony.
step up senpai - let's hear your explanation and see the proof you have for THAT
LUWIANS
their deportation by the assyrians in antiquity, where proto-kikes were forced to live among this very ancient eastern anatolian ethnic group MAY VERY WELL explain why kikes, to THIS DAY, are obsessed with the name
louie
louis
lewis
etc.
think of how many kikes you already know with names like that
It would hold candles in place so they don’t fall down and start fires and will protect them from wind a little bit
you don’t need to read a book with a candle every time, usually you just need to see
it looks like a decent candleholder if you have a problem with oddly sized candles and candles falling over, like inside a ship
practice the tauroctony.
a tauroctony is literally just a three dimensional statue of the ancient anatolian version of "mithras"
NOT to be confused with the persian mithra
where he's crouched down stabbing a bulll
so for you to say
masons are zionists and could not practice the tauroctony.
means absolute dog shit
like what are you saying? kikes can't make a statue of mithras stabbing a bull?
you make no sense
the nubs could also be tied down with string so the holder doesn’t roll and drop the burning candle
they would also stabilize the candle by lifting the sizing hole off the table
The Wisdom Cube's older cousin, the Dumbassahedratron
Phyrgian and Luwian are Indo-European languages.
step up senpai - let's hear your explanation and see the proof you have for THAT
Really? This is the one thing that is self explanatory.
Its a heathen ritual and idolatry carries the death sentence in judaism.
inb4 moloch
What do you think the bull being slaughtered is supposed to symbolize?
he "gala" - the pp snippers and ancient nigger-jew demon/goddess worshipers did this
so too did the "galli" of ancient phrygia with their attis worship - which was exported later to rome - just like the "roman" version of mithras was brought to ancient italy, likely by kikes
LUWIANS
their deportation by the assyrians in antiquity, where proto-kikes were forced to live among this very ancient eastern anatolian ethnic group MAY VERY WELL explain why kikes, to THIS DAY, are obsessed with the name
louie
louis
lewis
etc.
LOOOOOOOL
YOU
CANNOT
MAKE
THIS
SHIT
UP
hahahahaha
Phyrgian and Luwian are Indo-European languages.
yes, and ancient proto-kikes lived among them
your point?
based citrus enjoyer or barbaric skin remover
the one thing that is self explanatory.
PROVE IT
i can't
YAAAAAAAWN
You are plebbit spacing and citing a wiki.
The reliefs depicting the ritual carry the same name and yes jews cant practice heathen rituals or idolatry just like moloch worshippers can not engage in a mock ritual sacrifice of their god.
PROVE IT
i can't
en.wikipedia.org
Cringe.
what in the absolute FUCK does your
(((proof)))
have to do with
>masons are zionists and could not practice the tauroctony.
means absolute dog shit
like what are you saying? kikes can't make a statue of mithras stabbing a bull?
you make no sense
OH
it doesn't
ew goy but you reddit-spaced
ew nigger-jew
you literaly CAN'T
P
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jews cant practice heathen rituals or idolatry
jews sacrificed their children to moloch
you're stupid as fuck and a shit-for-brained lying nigger jew
Calm down, moshe.
The Mitram isn't real.
Go back to shleep.
can't prove shit
i accept your nigger-jew concession
lmao take your hissy fit back to plebbit I already addressed the moloch cult you circumcised slave.
can't prove shit
i accept your nigger-jew concession
moloch's a verb.
Yahweh's the cow.
Exodus 13:2
got any proof? gonna post it?
uh
uh
uh
LOL
jews cant practice heathen rituals or idolatry just like moloch worshippers
jews cant practice heathen rituals or idolatry
jews sacrificed their children to moloch
how come you're such a lazy baby bitch nigger-jew liar that can't prove shit?
prove it, kike
Jesus too.
said he offers his own flesh.
flesh of the living god to stop you.
(((things n stuff)))
proof?
uh
n-n-n-
nuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
nuuuuuuuuuu goy nuuuuuuu
eat shit and die