I have solved the Mystery of the Roman Dodecahedron

The roman dodecahedron is an ancient coin sorter. Let me explain.

They were made of cast bronze (expensive), made using lost-wax casting (expensive), and one was made of silver (very very expensive). Where were they found? Military areas, funeraries, baths, theatres, and coin hoards. What do these places have in common? SORTING COINS! Does the cashier at the store put each of your coins in a separate container? Or do they scoop it into a big pile after counting, to be sorted later?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron

If they were for coin sorting shouldn't we see wear on the inside?

YES! And we see it's very common with these.

The missing face's knobs look like they dissolved from the inside, their exterior shells remain largely intact

old.reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1k86y8y/condition_of_dodecahedrons_found_in_britain/
Look at this example from Fox News. You can see the inside is extremely corroded and worn, while the exterior is barely even damaged.
foxnews.com/science/history-mystery-ancient-dodecahedrons-purpose-remains-secret
What would be shaken inside a metal dodecahedron that wears it? coins! W

In this image you can see numbers 69, 70, and 139 have the corner balls broken off.
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Why were the corner balls broken off? Because the inside and balls are the stress points. They are built thin so they are easier to use. You would operate this by placing coins in the largest hole, with the smallest hole on the bottom, place it on a surface, then rub it back and forth to shake the coins. Smaller coins would be rustled around until they fall out the bottom.

Do the holes match up with roman coin sizes?

Yes! There is a large variance in coin size, and also dodecahedron size. Dodecs do not go significantly smaller or larger than coinage sizes. Here are the averages sorted by size

quadrans 15mm

quinarius (silver) 15mm

1uinarius (gold) 15mm

semis 17mm

denarius 19mm

aureus 19mm

Antoninanus 21mm

as 27mm

dupondius 27mm

sestertius 30mm

upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Roman_Coin_Denominations.png
Compare to these statistics of all their measurements, pretty damn close to a lot of these numbers!
old.reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ctndjs/looking_at_the_hole_sizes_how_can_this_be_a_tool/
Someone charted the occurance of the orifice sizes, let's overlay these averages!
old.reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ejydro/charting_dodecahedron_sizes_and_hole_size/

Picrel has red lines over the average coin size. Note that the holes would have to be larger than the coins, and most coins are probably going to be smaller than the average. The sizing lines up pretty good. You don't even need it to be perfect, as long as *most* of a coin comes out one hole then it's served its purpose, and all you need to do is pick a few mistakes out and pick out the gold.

They're a knitting tool stupid

Why didn't they say what it was

You must be stupid if you see a coin sorter and don't know what it is! It's a luxury item and status symbol! Do I need to explain what a hammer is too?

Alternate theories

it was used for star charting/measurement

This doesn't make sense because the hole variances are too much. It's too imprecise to be an astrological implement. This kind of variance is perfectly fine for a coin sorter.
reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ejydro/charting_dodecahedron_sizes_and_hole_size/
reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ctndjs/looking_at_the_hole_sizes_how_can_this_be_a_tool/

it was used for knitting

This doesn't make sense because it would not need to be made of metal. Wood would work just fine for such a light duty task. I doubt knitting would make enough profit to afford an expensive tool like this.

it was used for knitting gold wire

Amy Gaines proposes this theory and it makes more sense. It would need to be made of metal for the strength. Weaving gold is also an expensive trade that could afford this tool. Still it doesn't make sense. Why would they make this shape for it? Wouldn't it make more sense to put the sizing holes on a straight metal strip? Wouldn't the 5 weaving points be a separate piece? It would be far far easier and cheaper to cast it was 2 pieces and not 1 giant complicated one, with a high chance of failure.
youtube.com/watch?v=lADTLozKm0I

In this coin sorter, let the sym p represent all the places where the coin might be, and in each element is a number between 0 and 1 indicating how likely it is the coin is in that place. At the start we are at the point of maximum confusion, where we don't know where we are. But the sensor reduces the confusion in where the center of the coin is by feeding the hamming distance into the kinematic location-template filter for which spots would be coherent with all collected data.
youtube.com/watch?v=hFwH0qbKds8

I thought it was a utensil to knit fingers for gloves.

see last 2 paragraphs of 3rd post. Knitters wouldn't be able to afford a cast bronze thing. They would use wood or stone.

I need help from (you) to test this theory. If anon has a 3d printer you should be able to take the reddit measurements and make several sizes of coins, and sizes of dodecahedrons. Throw your coins in, shake, and see how well they work.

Its a tool pimps used to measure dick girth so the knew how much to charge johns based on how much roast beef wpuld be produced in the goods.

I have 3d printer, send me schematics and ill print one... been needing a solid girth measurement so i can properly asses what i charge chinkesess to impregnate them.

This is actually a very interesting and convincing theory. Only thing is, why make it a dodecahedron? Why not make it, say, a platform that rolls coins into its respective piles like the image on the right?

OP I'm convinced, I'll be spreading this misinfo everywhere now.

this is where OPs theory fails. Its literally too stupid to exist as a concept when romans could just make a small wooden case to hold all denominations

its literally a knitting tool.

What you don't like platonic solids?

Here are a couple base models.
printables.com/model/617284-roman-dodecahedron
thingiverse.com/thing:762005

Here are actual hole sizes measured on each item.
old.reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ctndjs/looking_at_the_hole_sizes_how_can_this_be_a_tool/

1st image is statistics on body sizes plane to plane.
old.reddit.com/r/romandodecahedron/comments/1ejydro/charting_dodecahedron_sizes_and_hole_size/

I can't make specific models for you to directly print, because IDK if the .stls are accurate. You are going to have to take the stl, calibrate, and modify it with the proper hole sizes. At least the coins will be easy.

IDK. Why didn't they wind copper into coils and spin it on a shaft? They were big into geometry so making this would be seen as an exercise in geometry, and display status/manufacturing capability.

Rich people who sort lots of coins like showing off. Wood is for poor people. Poor people wouldn't have enough coins to need a sorting machine anyways.

Holes are likely punched into blanks and then the whole thing is assembled and fused. That means it has to be some sort of polygon shape.

This theory is beyond retarded. Automatic coin sorters make sense because they do the work. It would take more time to put coins in this and then manually move it til it 'sorts' the coins than it would to just sort the small amount that would fit into this by hand. Use your fucking brain.

but muh insides

Alright then you dumb nigger. You measure your coin. You stick it in. How the fuck do you get it out?

Interesting theory, how would the sorting process actually work on this?

*polyhedron
each face is a polygon

Here would be the work process as an operator

get bag of 1000 coins

put 40 in, shake with smallest hole

move to the right on table

turn to bigger hole, shake

move to the right on table

turn to bigger hole, shake

empty rest into a separate pile

At this point most of the work is done. You still need to go through each pile individually to confirm, but the bulk of sorting has been completed. It's faster to sort "odd one out" of a 100 coin pile than it is to look at 100 coins and individually sort them.

Also to note, due to coin manufacturing differences, the hole sizes will match. If your city has a certain coin spec, your sorter will be made to match. I guarantee a historical analysis will confirm this geographically. I don't have the data though.

No it was made with lost wax casting. You can see the sand grains and I don't think forge welding works on copper.

hands you pile of 1000 coins

Would you rather sort 1 by 1 or be able to toss 40 in this gadget and have 80% of the work done?

Whatever it is it's stupid and fucking gay. There, someone has to say it.

Does it fit that many coins inside? Counting coins individually sounds faster if it couldn't hold many and required shaking. Suppose I hand you a small pouch bag full of coins, an untrianed retard from today sorting manually would be much faster than I can imagine a trained roman accountant inserting coins in that and shaking them out.

Would you rather sort 1 by 1 or be able to toss 40 in this gadget and have 80% of the work done?

You've never sorted anything, let alone coins, in your life. There would be more work involved using this thing as a coin sorter. You can sort a pile of coins with your eyes faster than loading them into a ball and then shaking it around into, what, seperate piles? If it actually worked like you claim you'd see variations of it today. Oh wait, you do. They are for knitting.

Coins back then were smaller than they are today. Like dime size was average. So yeah a hundred, maybe 200 coins could fit in a pocket.

Modern humans decided individually sorting coins is stupid, just like the ancients. Replace the electric motor on the modern coin sorter with a crank, and they are functionally identical.

I can't see how, You roll that thing with a crank and boom, dime side down, a dime falls, then quarter side rolls down and a quarter falls on top of the dime. How is that sorting anything?

Give me one cheap macacos and I'll sort it faster and the mistakes will be cheaper than the modern machine + electricity. Hance why I never seen any IRL.

It's an anal bead that's come off the strand.

Anon worked out it was a string encoder. You wrap string around the nodules and encode a message.

slide thread

file.scirp.org/Html/9-8101677_23245.htm

its a rangefinder
ain't fucking hard to figure out if you touch grass

And that's why Europeans invented the screw, industrialized, and they had to bring technology to you.

cites sources

coherent argument

Sorry, not a slide thread, faggot.

didn't read OP posts

Not with that much variance between hole sizes and body sizes. It's useless as a geometry measurement tool. Geometry measurement tools wouldn't be worn on the inside.

It's a finger box

yea you're a complete fucking retard

Buddy, I am telling you you are wrong and your theory is based on your worldview that involves doing nothing with your life. If you had ever done any real work in your life you would know that thing would not be used for that purpose. I am telling you, from experience, that there is nothing outside of an autosorter that would be faster than just sorting shit with your eyes and hands. Humans have known this for centuries. That's what there is no such thing in any point in history as a manual sorter. The time it would take to load the small amount of coins into this just to shake them back out would be double that of just sorting by hand, which would be less physical work. If you've ever sorted anything in major quantities you'd know that introducing methods that increase your physical output never work.

There are all sorts of tools who's meaning has been lost to time due to newer technology and/or the knowledge didn't get passed down. They almost always make a comeback in some form or design if they were even the slightest useful. No coin sorter of any kind looks anything like this tool. But there is a tool today that resembles this almost perfectly. It is used for knitting.

Put coins in

Shake

Yeah, that might work.
One thing that comes to mind, though, is that do the coins have enough room to mix up when you shake it?
I mean, if the largest ones are on the bottom and the smallest ones at the top, the smallest ones need to get to the bottom in order to drop out. And if you rotate it, the smaller coins might drop out of wrong holes.
And yes, you said you'd need to double-check the sorted piles to be sure, but if movement of the coins inside the dodecahedron is not fluid enough, there's a risk this would happen during the double-check too, producing the need for multiple re-checks. And if that is the case, sorting manually becomes a faster option quite quickly.
But still, this is not implausible theory, as the hole sizes do suggest the use case may very well be something coin related.

It’s a craftsman’s “masterpiece”. It’s a semi-standardized form a bronze smith would make to prove his skill. It would have both sentimental and practical value, as it was proof of his skill and his credentials.

You roll that thing with a crank and boom, dime side down, a dime falls, then quarter side rolls down and a quarter falls on top of the dime. How is that sorting anything?

Still didn't address how this is supposed to work.

Build a working prototype like granny knitter, otherwise you're at the same level as those fuckers saying it was shoved up arseholes for pleasure.

You're arguing in such bad faith I can tell you're Jewish.
Your hands would naturally cover most of the side holes, and the angled sides drive coins down. You'd probably shake back and forth then up and down occasionally to mix them up.

double rechecks

I doubt it, but even if you had to it would go very fast. Checking "is this the same as the others" is much faster and easier than checking "is this 1 of 5 things."
The only truly manual sorting would be your last pile, because it probably gets a few of every other coin inside.
I posted images on how it operates and described its operation. I even made drawings. Re-read my posts.

People in the past had a lot of free time

Your hands would naturally cover most of the side holes, and the angled sides drive coins down. You'd probably shake back and forth then up and down occasionally to mix them up.

>double rechecks

I doubt it, but even if you had to it would go very fast. Checking "is this the same as the others" is much faster and easier than checking "is this 1 of 5 things."

The only truly manual sorting would be your last pile, because it probably gets a few of every other coin inside.

Reread everything you posted, as requested. This sounds awfully harder than just getting a macaco to do it manually.

If anon has a 3d printer yadda yadda

This was the only good idea in the whole post I've read.

Also, Somewhere above you reminded me of other sorting mechanisms, and you reminded me of a simpler one I saw on one of those dumb "satisfyng factory workers/machines etc" videos. Not the gory ones we enjoy, those dumb ones on youtube. There was a sorter that was simply a fucking ramp with holes, How is this any better than that? You could make out of wood and even if it degraded too fast, getting a new one out of wood would still be cheaper than a metal dodecahedron.

Anyway, I'll let you guys argue and await the results of 3d printer anon.

Good night, frens, good luck on your theory.

Knitters wouldn't be able to afford a cast bronze thing.

Oh yeah? How much did one cost?
This is an impossible thing to know and ridiculous to state like it’s a fact.

Coin sorters dont need to be made of cast bronze and intricately shaped you fucking retard.
Literally just a piece of wood with some slots would do the trick.

Also Roman coins are too inconsistently shaped to even be sorted that way.

Tldr op is a fucking moron.

it's just a penis size rater roman queens used to use to see the best head before they meet the queen

You're arguing in such bad faith I can tell you're Jewish

Thanks for confirming this is a slide thread. You can't find any coin sorter in history that looks anything like this. If it was a useful tool then it should have been reinvented in some form that you can visually see similarities in. If it wasn't a useful tool, then it would get lost to time and you'd never see it again. Isn't it a weird coincidence that the knitting tool that was invented hundreds of years later resembles this, though? Almost like that is the perfect design for a certain task. Like I said, use your brain. Pay more attention to the Logical Question slide threads.

Holes are too big. No.

it was for glove knitting you moron an old british granny who used one for glove knitting still proved it conclusively

If you believed this was a slide thread, you would report, and not still be posting.

Does the cashier at the store put each of your coins in a separate container? Or do they scoop it into a big pile after counting, to be sorted later?

Cashiers do store change by denomination and if you work for a place with their shit together then roll coins as they come in. I’d bet the Romans had something similar figured out because it’s far more efficient.

Huge if true. Seems a bit schizo to me, but who knows. OP might be onto something

Ancient Jewish money sorter probably.

a fucking ramp with holes

Thanks for picrel.

Also, if you want a crank, just make it like a water wheel to send any coins that don't fall on any hole to go back to the start.

What if each one of these was used to hold only one kind of coin already? I can't imagine why, as a simple cup would serve the same purpose. But that's my contribution, I think using this as a coin sorter is too cumbersome.

it was a nozzle attachment to a fountain water feature.

Does the cashier at the store put each of your coins in a separate container?

yes wtf kind of nigger tier stores are you shopping at
have you ever seen a cash register retard

Roman

Where were they found? Military areas, funeraries, baths, theatres, and coin hoards. What do these places have in common?

Anal sex.

The dodecahedron is an anal sex toy.

I don't report because that's gay. I don't comment often, but when I do I try to point things out to lurkers that they might not catch. Like how you cast your net out by mass replying to multiple people. And once you landed your target, me in this case, you argue til you realise I am smarter than you. Then you switch tactics to calling me a jew. Then you give up the goose by hyper fixiating on me to argue something beyond the point of the post.

I'd bet money if you tested a dodecahedron found in a city, with coins from the same city, it would work perfectly.
Thank you shill for arriving with your friends because

one strategy could be to make the site less interesting for users

Nice projection because you're a glownigger paid to be here. I solve a mystery of history and all you can do is spam. This is why you guys are losing.

Quinarius

Denarius

Quinarius

WE WUZ ROMANS AND SHEEEEEIIIIIIIT

that genuinely makes a lot of sense but 100% fr no cap the cashier at the store definitely puts the coins in separate compartments of a coin drawer
still makes a lot of sense though

youtube.com/watch?v=76AvV601yJ0

if not sorting, maybe to detect clipping, a common practice up to when Isaac Newton added ribbed edges

There's one serious problem with your theory.
Coins of that era were struck, not cast. They weren't consistently the same size or shape. It was more important that they were the same weight, because the value was in the material composition. They didn't sort coins by size, but used scales to weigh them to make certain they hadn't been cut or filed down. We find weights in ancient places of money counting and exchange because that's how they sorted coins.

seriously I am amazed you nigger brains havent roasted this gorilla nigger more over this
I can’t wrap my head around how you can type something so fundamentally retarded and then produce an entire thread of dogshit without realizing you are an idiot

do you think cashiers are sorting coins

bro how do you even type this out and hit post

Every theory about these things is full of holes.

Wouldn't the uhh.. little coins, just fall through the bigger holes?

Maybe its a carnival game with coin throwing.
youtube.com/watch?v=rQ4G-pEgwuA

Nice projection because you're a glownigger paid to be here. I solve a mystery of history and all you can do is spam. This is why you guys are losing.

This is where you pretend to sperg out. It's the first defense tactic when called out. Claim the other person, me in this case, is really the jew/glownigger/etc. Even when it makes no sense. But that doesn't matter because you'll be gone soon anyway.

my first ever Cuba sighting! Glad to see you got power! Sorry for all those years of stupid sanctions.

This. I know a finger box when I see one, and this one is vintage. I prefer my finger boxes to be made of wood, feels better imo, but Romans liked to be gaudy

solved

don't thank

You're right. I've never worked as a cashier, and don't use coins. I guess they are just that good :P
Knitters couldn't afford a cast copper item and would use wood instead.
Weighing coins confirms value, doesn't sort them.

What stops a small coin from falling out a larger hole?
Your logic is incomplete.

If you tested coins from the same city

No trade between cities existed

Every city had its own mint

You are an absolute fucking retard.

nationalize all burger property

no compensation

sorry about those stupid sanctions eh

there is something wrong with you people I swear

test

Hole placement would be designed to protect from this. Plus your hands cover the sides.
Wow this thread really has you shills riled up if you're testing your VPN.

Yep. Weve already pointed this out and that you'd just use a bit of wood with slots in it.
He's just an idiot with a retarded idea who thinks he's smart.

I think the idea is you put all the coins in the big hole, then hope they all go out the right holes.

I'm down with this idea, but idk how its supposed to work either, we need a demonstration.

wrong, time traveler here, we would throw them like a dice and stuff our cocks into the top hole, if you could stand up without it falling to the ground you won and if it fell off everyone called you a little bitch and took turns fucking your ass.
it was very popular.

They make gloves

but idk how its supposed to work either,

Put sand and pebbles in a ball with different sizes hole sand watch what happens.
If you expect to have sorted sand and pebbles, you're wrong

I don't mean on the sides. I meant straight down.
Have fun with your retard thread.

Noticed :)

Knitting didn't exist until the 11th century.
Spool knitting didn't exist until the 16th century.
Some of the dodecahedrons have been found without the holes in the side.
A wooden one would work for the task and would be much cheaper.

The obvious answer is they were luxury finger boxes.

counting and sorting should happen at the same time because they both involve isolating the the coins and determining their value. which is the majority of the work

Fuckin hell I forgot to post the "how to operate" image

taking designs from 2000 years later and putting them into the past

Why didn't they make the induction motor bro? They had copper wire. Idiots!

Okay

A ramp with coin slots

How could the Romans have possibly figured that out?!?!

You have a very low IQ

That's a lot more work than just sorting coins.

Again, ancient coins were not universal sizes like today's coins. They weren't even typically round. Each coin was uniquely shaped due to the striking process of minting. So you couldn't sort them by shape. Two coins of the same striking and value could be totally different shapes.
It's a nice theory but I'm not certain it would hold up. No disrespect intended.

Just count the coins. You think Romans had piles of gold and silver coins laying around

This. All of the coins posted for measurement are crudely minted, inconsistent oblong coins.
They're unfit for automatic sorters in the first place.

It's obvious that the ancient dodecahedron is just a finger box which lacks the simplicity or ease of use of the modern finger box. No reason to be intentionally obtuse about this obvious fact.

This guy's right, the thing would hold like ten coins, can you imagine jamming them into one of the holes and then shaking it around like an excited, ham fisted retard in order to... sort... the handful of coins you just fucking put into it. Awful theory.

aren't these things just slightly larger than a D20 die?

kek

Op keeps stating things like “a knitter would be too poor to own bronze” with literally nothing to back that up. At one point he said “they’d use wood or stone”. Carving a shape like that out of stone would be a huge pain in the ass with anything except a very weak stone (talc, soapstone, sandstones) and that would defeat the point because it’s a wear item that wild rapidly degrade. You could cast that shape in bronze way easier than you could make a stone one so that line of thinking doesn’t hold up at all. I mean damn with metal casting you can make ten at once when you have a mold.

Bump for actual intelligent posting, we need more threads about things other than screaming "Nigger!" over and over again (not that those aren't fun)

There's another problem with the coin sorting theory: the Roman dodecahedrons were not universal in size themselves.
Most of them were only the size of a golf ball. Too small to sort coins, unfortunately.

I guess that’s true

Now that it's clear that this is a bullshit slide thead.

What is OP sliding? What was the best theory on the other thread before this nonsense took over?

Intelligent posting

Kek you're as much of a retard as OP if you think this is remotely intelligent.

It's a cuck cage faggot. Go get one.

this is so absurd and stupid it's not even worth debunking

Any halfway competent cashier or cash handler can work the process to end up without a pile of change at the end of the day. It’s an underrated skill but by being cheeky with small denoms you can clear your drawer out quickly and make your count at the end of the day simple as shit. I’m sure a Roman figured that out too and wouldn’t be stuck with sacks of coins to count every day to justify the need for some goofy sorter.

Why didn't they make the induction motor bro? They had copper wire. Idiots!

If you're not trolling, you've a very low IQ.
I'm done. Enjoy your thread, retard.

You're right. I think if you took a dodecahedron from a city, and tried sorting coins from that city, it would work. Different mints have different coin sizes. These tools would be built to their needs.
You shills are really mad there's a good thread up.

Things get considerable more difficult when you also have to account for the fact that we're not just talking about dodecahedrons but also icosahedrons that don't have holes.

Not an argument + you're VPN hopping anyways. kek.

Coin clipping was so pervasive back then you’d be better off spending MORE time inspecting your change.

The simple answer is that they were early geometry math tools for education. My niggers Pythagoras and Archimedes find you asshats redundant.

They could also be thuribles. The holes could’ve been covered with linen or something which rotted away.

53356

Never a number close to six gorillion.

nigger you are a literally retard. they are used to knit finger holes in gloves. an old women literally proved it beyond conclusively. now you can COPE, SEETHE OR RAGE BUT YOU ARE 100% A FAGGY ASS GAY NIGGER

White people can’t distinguish existences, like dogs are colorblind.

and the other one with huge holes too. lol.

Obviously wrong to think of it as a coin sorter.

Well, let's agree to disagree. It's an interesting theory anyway.
Personally I've always thought that they were used for gambling or casting lots, since there is no record of what "casting lots" actually entailed. But that's just a guess.

The 11th century BC you stupid nigger. The Egyptians knitted socks

The oldest knitted artifacts are socks from Egypt, dating from the 11th century.[3] They are a very fine gauge, done with complex colourwork and some have a short row heel, which necessitates the purl stitch. These complexities suggest that knitting is even older than the archeological record can prove.[4]

It's for measuring spaghetti portions

I thought that too until I remembered that Roman coins are notoriously mistaken.

These examples are actually pretty round, w lot of coins from ancient Rome are comically mishaped

Rome was infested with jews.

From source [4] in your pasting:

The oldest REAL knitting (formed on two sticks by pulling loops through loops) we've got is 'Coptic socks' from Egypt, dating to around the year 1000 CE. There are quite a few fragments, all of them done in shades of white and indigo, in stockinette. Many of them have Khufic (a decorative Arabic script) blessings knit into them, or symbols to ward off evil, or both. All look really cool. And may I point out for the fiber-snobs among us, that all of the really ancient knitted fragments we've got are knit out of cotton. Yes indeedy, cotton. Wool wasn't used for knitting until way later.

This entire fucking thread proves that Anon Babble is dead. 90% of all of you are either sub 100 IQ or bots. If you couldn't immediately tell that this is complete bullshit I honestly feel bad for you.

It's an ancient fingerbox.

lol, asking the real questions here

that makes zero sense retard because all the small coins would fall through the biggest hole

why use this to sort coin when it seems more constructive to use these devices to check the size of the coin to prevent coin clipping

It was "solved" a few years ago when "they" realized women in Caucus Mountains still use them to knit with.

Roman senators took it as a point of pride their wife made all their clothing. Knitters could be extremely wealthy in the Roman world, and the effort required to hollow out a rock or piece of wood into a d20 would probably cost more than bronze casting.

false

The oldest REAL knitting

REAL

Well apparently FAKE knitting existed in 1000 BC so maybe those Roman thingamajigs were used for FAKE knitting lol

Great rebuttal dipshit.

Place the smallest hole on the bottom, put in through the top, cover other holes with hands and shake, rotate, repeat

These items predate both knitting by 500 years and knitting spools by 1000 years.

There is no evidence for any proposed use of these objects.

Nålbinding, the only "fake" knitting you could be referring to, existed before 6000BC, but did not use spools.

but did not use spools.

Maybe they used dodecahedrons DUH

Wiki says that there are over 50 theories to explain them. One of them is coin-sizing, so OP, I think you are late to the party.

The argument is that the dodecahedrons were used as knitting spools.
You may be confusing the term with "bobbins" which are also commonly referred to as spools.

those dodecahedrons were/are genetic strand weavers

comically misshapen

Jews have been clipping and counterfeiting coins since coins were a thing anon, the misshapen bits match the damage from people shaving bits off the coins, and match examples of English coins right up until the bong started putting ridges on the outer edge of the coin, and expelled jews specifically for coin clipping and counterfeiting

This. The coins were standardized sizes, so if your nickel/dime equivalents were falling out of smaller holes in the standardized coin checkers you knew someone clipped or shaved the edges

it doesn't work.

lol if you filled one of these with coins and shook it the coins would just fly off in every fucking direction...not a very smart thing to do with money, also on the frontier there was little money in circulation, most everything was provided either through service or ration systems...soldiers would not be paid until they returned from "deployment" with exceptions for when they visited trading hubs, then they would draw from a stipend for shit like buying wine, and whatever the fuck else they had to stock up on

CHING CHING CHING CHING

year: 120BC

Augustus: I am bored lets do something funny

Brutus: Me too! Hey, I know! Lets make some really stupid device that serves no purpose whatsoever but looks like it might be an important tool for something

Augustus: why would that be funny?

Brutus: In 2000 years homosexuals will be arguing about what sort of very important use this device had

WHAT?

HOW MANY TICKETS?

Quadrans of the Roman Imperial Period 40/41 AD; Material: AE Bronze; Diameter: 17mm; Weight: 2.77g; Mint: Rome; Reference: RIC I (second edition) Gaius/Caligula 52; Provenance: Ex Naumann Numismatic Vienna Austria; Obverse: Pileus flanked by S C.

The Roman quinarius was a coin issued in both silver and gold. Silver quinarii were approximately 1.5 to 2 centimeters in diameter and weighed around 1.4 to 3.3 grams.

Gold quinarii were about 2 centimeters in diameter and weighed around 7-7.8 grams.

The dimensions of a Roman semis coin are typically between 18.5mm and 50mm in diameter, with a thickness of around 14.3mm and a weight of about 129 grams. The exact size can vary depending on the specific period and mint of the coin.

The Roman denarius was a silver coin used during the Roman Republic and Empire. Its weight and size varied over time, but initially, it weighed around 4.5 grams and had a diameter of 18 to 20 millimeters.

A Roman aureus was typically 19-20 millimeters in diameter and weighed between 7.75 and 8.00 grams. While some periods saw variations in weight, this was the standard size during the early imperial period.

The Antoninianus, a Roman coin introduced in 215 AD, was originally designed to be about 20mm in diameter and 1.4mm thick. Over time, it was debased, and the material changed from silver to bronze with a small silver content, ultimately becoming smaller.

Roman coins typically have dimensions measured in millimeters. Size ranges are often categorized using a system like AE1 (over 25mm), AE2 (21-25mm), AE3 (17-21mm), and AE4 (less than 17mm). For example, a sestertius, a bronze coin, might be around 32-34mm in diameter.

nigga u suck

While I disagree with OP completely I do appreciate his effort

It's obivously a toe measuring device. You put your toes in them so you can classify them.

this thread

not the 1pbtid racebaiting niggerdick threads

not the endlessly cuntpasted ragebait wahmen h8 threads

not the 'is coffee good for you [lust provoking image]' threads

but a thread wherein OP shares his--very possibly incorrect--novel and interesting theory, and remains in the thread

you are the most retarded person in this thread

Okay smart guy so h0ow the fuck does it work? They put mixed coins in and roll it around and get mixed coins everywhere?

It's an ancient onahole stupid

Fuck that im not making .stls for your cock measuring tool.

This is the stupidest idea I ever heard of. Roman dodecahedrons are obviously for measuring penis girth.

Anon you've hopped on at least 5 VPNs by now.

Roman dodecahedrons are obviously for measuring penis girth.

Most don't go past 30mm diameter

Grim

well, the icosohedron is for Greeks.

coins in history were not round and were measured by weight, not size.

OP might be wrong but one thing is sure... he's not a fag. Interesting thread

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