B-but Anon if we re-traditionalize to the male-breadwinner model, this will violate women's autonomy

B-but Anon if we re-traditionalize to the male-breadwinner model, this will violate women's autonomy

Yeah and? Femlae autonomy is obviously tied to birthrate decline and societal collapse. Can anyone argue that there is a clear net benefit to allowing women to choose? Like the only argument is tied to human rights which ironically doesn't seem to matter to the natural world.

Womens liberation is mens freedom. You don't have to push in her chair anymore. You are free, goy.

More concerned about the gay shit

At this point I will forego a mate before watering myself down to be palatable to a fickle and self-centred woman, in regards to speaking the truth about functional, moral, beautiful inter-gender relations. I don't want to go without, but submitting to hen-peckery just to get taken to the cleaners cause her yoga teacher winked at her or her girl-friends told her she deserves more? I'd rather monk mode it. Stay strong and stick together, lads. Remember, women have the privileges WE give them.

You need (non-brown) children to provide the creative inspiration for anime girls, which requires tolerating a woman, so I'll endure it for that purpose

Look at Jesse, he's a worm of a man with zero romantic options, so he resorts to concern trolling hoping some woman will take pity on him.

Can anyone argue that there is a clear net benefit to allowing women to choose?

Lower birthrates are a loss to the bottom line of Fortune 500’s but a net gain for society.

Cope and seethe about it zoomer
I bet that dad is mc hammer dancing getting that good ass boy pussy. I would know.

The best part is they don't even have to be 18. Your cucked kiked as sold out your own gender so noone is gonna do shit if you mess around with an underage boy

And even if they did, there's plausible deniability depending on how young we're talking. Yea these women teachers fuck 13yo boys cause they're women and therefore stupid

But a 17yo girl is basically an 19yo girl if you lie a little, ok you got me, she just turned 18 wink wink

Fuck you
Fuck your morals
I hate you

There's always going to be some accommodating with women, no doubt. But I won't conceal from prospective mates the reality that there is a hierarchy, I'm at the top of it, it IS a benevolent dictatorship that once entered cannot be left, and physical discipline is within my rights if necessary, a prerogative I will not have tested. Not first date discussion, sure, but when and as appropriate, or if she asks directly about such things and an answer is needed, I will be open about this perspective.

and physical discipline is within my rights if necessary, a prerogative I will not have tested.

She'll go to the cops, realize internally that the government is a more powerful mate than you are, then cheat on you brazenly until you break up. Or she files for divorce and gets your kids.

Patriarchal authority in human relationships does not and cannot exist if the government provides welfare to women. A woman has absolutely no reason to listen to a man, especially if he's married. Husband getting too uppity? Isolate him from his friends and lie about being abused to her girlfriends, who then gaslight the husband into submission. And if he talks back, threaten divorce. Marriage today is an act of submission on part of the male, which is why the institution is completely falling apart. When was the last time you heard a bride's wedding vows include the phrase

To honor and OBEY

She'll go to the cops, realize internally that the government is a more powerful mate than you are, then cheat on you brazenly until you break up. Or she files for divorce and gets your kids.

Yeah this is why supportive elements need to be in place in my favour, I'm upfront about it, and I'm willing to hold my position if it means being single. I've dated women who respond to this.

I think jesse is a faggot

This appears to be an American obsession

Two years ago I dated a 21 and a 23 year old (I was 35). The 21 year old didn't work out because our work schedules, but man she was cool. Liked her a lot. The 23 year old was legitimately retarded. I think like some kind of learning disability or something. Doing anything with her was like herding cats, but omg the body on that thing. I will never feel guilty about dating young girls, but dealing with the level of maturity that comes with an early 20-something woman takes a lot of patience.

more concerned about age gap than father being a literal faggot

White people things

They oppose this because it threatens them. It's envy and fear of their own aging out of their cushy lives provided by simps, simple as.

Exactly. But now I'm 37, going on 38--not sure how long I can keep dating young 20-somethings. I was engaged to a 29 year old but caught her lying about some shit and now I'm single again. So now I'm on the prowl, again, for a 21 year old baddie.

How do you meet 20 year olds at your age. I will gladly marry a dumb bitch at this point

Oooweee what a catch! Sign me up!

The 21 year old worked at a restaraunt at the bar and I went there every Friday evening for dinner. She flirted with me a few times, then said out loud to my friend she's trying to get my number. Honestly had no idea she liked me at first.

Second one just moved to my state and started going to the same gym I go to and I saw her on a dating app. I usually don't use dating apps, it's kind of just something I have to keep tabs on local women lmao. I know it sounds dumb but I live in a very small New England town so it's kind of funny sometimes to see "Oh there's Sarah single again looking for dick" kek. Anyways we matched on the dating app and dated for about two months but I couldn't deal with her low IQ anymore, despite how hot she was.

Well, how do I talk to them? I'm in sales, so I can BS, but I genuinely don't know what to talk about with women.

Gotta hold that line. Especially with the state entirely stacked against us, it's our one final power move in these situations. Shitty women are shitty because weak men enable them to be, in exchange for dangles of hope and crumbs.

You have never had sex lol

You need to be familiar with pop culture buddy, even if that pop culture is useless slop.
There is some utility in being plugged in to the culture at large, even if youre cynical and jaded about it.

Dude I have no idea. I just talk to people. I guess I'm naturally good at it. Maybe it's confidence? I don't know. Maybe it's that I've had so many girlfriends and been on so many dates over the last 20 years. Don't force it. If you're genuinely interested in a woman, and you can tell she's also interested, then just ask her on a date and be honest. Say hey I think you're really pretty (or if you know her a bit, say smart/funny/whatever women want to hear) and I want to take you out for coffee (or whatever. Mini golf works like a charm around here). If they like you, despite being cheesy, they'll say yes. If they say no, it's not going to work anyways. Trust me man I've been dating women for 20 years and figured out what works and what doesn't. Unfortunately can't find one worth being a wife but I've been giving it one hell of a try kek

Yep. Modern women need to learn their behavior will not be tolerated. If it means having to break it off with woman after woman year after year like I've had to do--so be it. Do not settle for anything less than perfect. Women don't deserve a good man if they can't do basic things like loyalty, honesty, empathy, etc. Most cannot do one of more of those three.

One benefit of not watching goy slop is it's an opportunity for the woman to talk during the first date.

Do you watch Goy Go Round?!

No never heard of it, what is it?

A reality show about (gay retarded shit)

Hah, that's silly. What's it usually like?

That keeps them busy while you data mine, essentially.

If you're genuinely interested in a woman

lol thats my biggest problem, I'm not genuinely interested in any women besides for marriage

He should be more concerned about his dad being a faggot than the age gap.

I guess I'm naturally good at it. Maybe it's confidence? I don't know.

kek this brought to mind that image of a news story where some woman hooked up with the guy who shot at her, then underneath there's "Ouch!" chad flailing his arms and firing a gun at a girljak swooning over it.

That keeps them busy while you data mine, essentially.

I like the image of "datamining" people in conversation. Interesting perspective.

Now stop charging taxes to pay for her welfare.
Bonus: stop collecting money from baby daddies.
Women's liberation must not mean men's enslavement,
or men better get zero to hero violent.

Happy consenting adults should go to JAIL for being a couple

No fucking way zoomers are this stupid and retarded

Besides for marriage

That's what it means to be genuinely interested in a woman lol dork.

That's exactly what it is. Look, I know this sounds psychopathic, but there were two girls at my gym I went on dates with (one I already mentioned) and what I did was listen in on their conversations with others over the course of maybe a month to learn what they're interested in or what they've been up to lately, so on the date I can "organically" bring up a relatable conversation or at least do some research on it. Works like a charm. If you meet a woman organically, get them talking about whatever it is women like to talk about and just sit back and maintain your anonymity until you decide if you like her or not.

There's this meme going around about how "men don't ask women questions on dates" which baffled me, cause what you've described is how I do it. Most of my dates are almost all her talking, and I just fuel it with another question, add in a compliment or joke where it would +1 the romance interaction points like an rpg, and then try to close the deal at the level that feels right (second date, walk you home, come to my place, etc.) at the end.

Is he not a faggot?
Basing it off phenotype

The chad twink pounder, who has already bread and is thus free from any biological selection bias:
The virgin anon: GRRRR

Memes are gay and retarded. Ironically (because of this thread kek) the internet is the last place to look for dating advice, especially all those pro-trad-men-lift-weights-eat-meat-touch-grass instagram accounts. I do agree with everything you said. That's how you do it.

Women talk something like 10x as much as men do. Let them do it. If you match their conversation, they're going to call you a narcissist because they don't get to say what all they want to say and it's projection.

BTW fellas if you ever hear the woman you're interested in say "narcissist" fucking run. That's red flag word of the decade.

Just imagine how fucked Zoomers will be if they get drafted.

I'm 42 and my wife is 25. We have a 5 year old son. Been together since I was 37 and she was 18. She preaches to all of her friends that they need an older man. Convinced her 24 year old best friend to go out on a date with her first older man who is 36 and was super excited when she did.

I hear this "men don't ask questions" meme from the "Don't-Settle-Know-Your-Worth-Queen" female griping accounts. You're the choosers at this stage, ladies. If all your dates are unimpressive duds, that's no one's fault but your own. But they don't want a solution, they want an excuse to bitch online for attention, and the money it brings in from other deluded, unhappy women. Lol I just realized that accounts like that are sort of like OnlyFans for women.

We could use a thinning of the heard, desu.

It's not even about autonomy in a primary sense
These women want ABSOLUTE independence from the other half of humanity while continuing to benefit from society AS IF they are still fully part of it. Men can be dependent on the other half of humanity as much as it serves women, as far as they are concerned. Equality is not and was never a priority. It is about absolute control. Not only do they want you to suck their shit, they also want you to smile and say it's delicious.

You're giving me hope, bud. I'm very happy for you. I am noticing younger women (21-26) going for men my age these days. Could be that zoomer males are just man children and young zoomer women finally realized being a mom and wife is greater than a career, now that millennial women are nearing 40 and miserable at their desk job.

they want an excuse to bitch online for attention

Every woman for the last 20 years. Since you brought that up, I should also mention to any young buck reading this, check her social media. See who and what she follows. If you see any "Know your self worth queen" (as you put it) accounts--bail immediately. Modern women's narcissism and self-love has reached unprecedented levels and should be studied. Most women believe themselves to be infallible, which leads to infidelity or them being bored of you once the appeal wears off and the thrill is gone.

Interestingly enough I'm having this conversation in another thread kek

half your age plus 7 is a perfectly reasonable cut off for societal normality. The zoomer "SHE WAS ONLY 22 YOU SICK FUCK" nonsense. You can't have sexual freedom where men can fuck men or get their cocks cut off and larp as woman while also enforcing tight age restrictions.

Based twink slayer chad dad. He will never date a man above the age of 25. He will be 87 and picking up 18 year olds.

that's looking at the bright side. I do not have to deal with them at all

finds age difference disgusting

doesn’t find his dad putting his dick in a man’s shithole disgusting

Why are zoomers like this

half your age plus 7

Nah lol I'm gonna bang a 21 year old if I want to. I could not care less what society or the public thinks about it.

Thanks bro. She's a good girl. She tries to get an attitude every now and then because she's a woman, but believe it or not we've never had a fight. My home is very peaceful. I believe it's because at the very beginning I had a no tolerance policy on bullshit so she learned that if she wanted to keep driving a new car and living in a pretty big house she'd better comply. It's working out so far. But also she's never been with another guy so there my be curiosity one day but we'll figure that out when we get there

The day she reaches the age of consent in the relevant jurisdiction is the "reasonable" cut off for an age gap, and that's being generous to the age stipulations crowd.

this is a thousand percent correct

my parents at my birth? 40 and 19.

Sounds like you've got a good thing going. Hope you signed a pre-nup. My ex wife took everything while I was on my last deployment. Pre-nup would've saved me 7 grand kek

you don't care what society thinks because you're also a homosexual

kys, faggot

Now go forth and slay zoomer pussy

those get thrown the fuck out and invalidated with great frequency. a lot of the time they're worthless. t. sister worked for a divorce lawyer

What a retarded thing to say lmao

Working on it! Been remodeling my home for the last two months so all my free time and extra money has been going into that, but there is this 23 year old I know who has a crush on me and she's kinda cute. Might try that out this summer.

Oh shit, really? Dang man thanks for the heads up. Guess I'll have to resort to old-timey tactics like beating and gas lighting.

Of course I did bro. I'm not rich so she's not going to get anything but she's also not a vindictive bitch. I know that they can all turn, but my wife is actually a dream girl. Sweet, doesn't drink, pretty docile, and hot as fuck. I've been with hundreds of women and I made the right choice keeping her

Hell yeah. I love hearing stories like this. May God bless your family my guy with many more years of happiness.

These fucking 5 year age gap zoomers need to all be rounded up and tortured and set on fire. Especially the ones who beat 19 year olds for dating 17 year olds. I have no idea where this perception came from but it’s probably because zoomers are still children in their mid 20s and when you’re a child the kids one grade above you in grade school are ancient in their child minds.

I have no idea where this perception came from

Older, jealous women and their beta orbiters.

I care what quality people think, on matters that are their business, when they've demonstrated themselves to my satisfaction that their opinion has merit and weight on said matters.

I don't care what "society" thinks because it doesn't exist at all, and because the interconnected societies conglomerated into countries and political alliances that you're calling "society" are populated by a lot of dumb, misled, angry, itching-to-witch-burn, unreflective pituitary retards. I'm not playing to the cheap seats, and that's to my credit.

so im no lawyer, i have a couple friends that are. i asked becauaw i am veey curious of the legal trade, "well, what are these critera then"

from memory a few things i remember were

she was coerced into it

it was too close to wedding date, didn't have time to think it over

she was pushed into it because of arrangements, this wasn't an agreement

the terms are unfair at face value

its unlawful because (thisparthere) is not allowed by law in this state, the whole should be invalidated

so on...if you niggers are gonna prenum, TALK TO SEVERSL LAWYERS. EXPERIENCED ONES. ASK ABOUT CASES WITH PRENUPS THEY LITIGATED

I bet his dad is the bottom as well.

Should cancel them for being homophobic

I think I'd rather just resort to telling them I'd kill them if they were ever unfaithful. Wouldn't ever do it but I'm sure it'll work considering I'm an ex-intel guy who did some sneaky-sneaky in Iraq.

I'm 35, one of my best friends is a 19 year old girl. We have plenty in common. We both hate niggers for example.

Do Fags have zoomer retardation too now?

He was only 24 you sick fuck

The fuck??

the age gap between me and my gf is larger than her own age by about 6 years

This is some insane virtue signalling.

they'll never find your body

makes the point clearly and also has the added benefit of not being a provable threat. so yeah, right track

i think the Russians had a saying, something like "he hits because he loves" which basically is like keeping the stupid bitch from ruining everything herself out of her own stupidity. thats pretty common

Older women are fucking deluded too. They are so fucking desperate for attention yet the moment you show any potential interest they play the same stupid games they did when they were young and most men would tolerate it. I’m 35, I was talking to this 43 year old woman and keeping it entirely sexual. Well I became busy with moving and work for like two weeks when she texts me some bullshit about not being consistent or some shit. Fucking crazy.

kek when i was in iraq i saw two guys on morale computers get cleaned out, bank account and all, and the bitch ninja vanished like that dude with the smoke balls on ninja turtles cartoons

one of the guys beat that computer to bits as if it were his now ex wife in person. everyone jist kinda indifferently looked at him like they were expecting the same

i think the Russians had a saying, something like "he hits because he loves" which basically is like keeping the stupid bitch from ruining everything herself out of her own stupidity. thats pretty common

This is exactly what properly executed domestic discipline is and should be seen as. Of course it can be taken too far, or applied when unnecessary, etc. It's just like force used by police to keep law and order. Yes corruption, police brutality, etc. all exist and are bad, but none of that means that police shouldn't exist, nor that they should be denied the authority to use the force required to keep that law and order, because the alternative is far worse.

Based dominant gen x dad showing how its done to these gay ass weak zoomers.

I personally dont give a fuck what subhumans think

Thanks man. I hope you find the same thing

I want white daddy to feed me dick

I'm 37, going on 38

good grief millennials are fucking babies
who talks like this after their 10th birthday?

You better lock it down then.

Keep your woman in check often. They need it. I used to be an equal rights type dude looonnnng time ago and learned the hard way. Women not only deserve to be kept in check, they need it.

On my first deployment, this one dude's (now ex) wife sent him a picture of her fucking a nigger. Worst thing was, this dude was the nicest guy you'd ever met. Always in a good mood, always helping out, was just a good friend. Hated to see it then, but now I realize she was just with him because he's a good guy and she can walk all over him.

Been fun talking to you fellas. I'm off to Home Depot to buy more trim for my dining room project. God speed to you all.

There is no argument for female choice. It's all bullshit that stems for simpery and judaism. If my ancestors saw these bitches they'd cut their heads off.

will be if

When

Is he not a faggot?

If he's not attracted to a 21 year old woman, he probably is.

I turn 40 in September and my grillfriend is 20.

She eats my ass and calls me 'Daddy'.

BEGONE HAGS!

I like the female anatomy esp. the bags.

Zoomers have conditioned themselves to not find fertile women attractive. It's actually fucking insane.

why is it always India posts

its like every single fuckin time i see that flag, posts gonna read awful like a China man trying to drive a car down a busy street, or get eaten by an escalator bumblefucking around with a suitcase on top

Every healthy man does.

wat. have you ever been out with one and had to listen to early 20s female blah blah blah...you literally think to yourself "i should've just jacked off and went to the lake alone instead"

i consider how annoying the bitch is before even proceeding with that activity. and im no faggot either

When

No. They will simply die in bootcamp.
I'll put my hands up and say I'll almost definitely perish in a SHTF scenario.
I can't hunt, I don't know how to grow crops or skin animals or secure water. I don't know how to read weather signs, etc etc, nor can I build a shelter.

But I can work in the society as it stands. Show up, use initiative and problem solving skills in a job that this society creates. I can go home with dirty clothes, hands and pockets full of money.

They can't. Zoomers are legitimately, worryingly retarded. I'm handing in my notice because I've had to work with four zoomers in a garage - soon to be five.
Bossman simply cannot find proper mechanics any more and I'm being hounded relentlessly for the slowdown in my work while being blamed because while I was teaching one how to put air in fucking tyres another one let the oil out of the gearbox of the car he was servicing, before putting another 5 litres of oil into the engine, with predictable results and I just cannot fucking look at their gormless, broccoli headed forms staring into their phones any longer.

Once these people become the critical mass of the workforce, our world is fucking DONE lol.

dad

boyfriend

gay son

wtf
the problem here's faggotry.
don't you feel worried for the future? I mean you will be decadent while she is still relatively young? I would be scared to be eventually dumped in this kind of relation.<<<<

re: first part

So what, now 21 is still a 'child'? people need to get their head out of their ass

re: the second part

I am reminded of the time my father was setting up his estate plan, and had one of the better local attorney's writing it. The guy included a bunch of hidden time bombs, buried deep within the document, but designed to avoid certain problems. As it applies here, he had a clause which said....

if (after the death of either my mom or dad), the other remarried

and if the person they married was younger than their oldest child

then the new spouse not only gets nothing, but the executor of the dead parents estate is prohibited from telling them until the time the estate was settled

Which was backed up by:

if anyone attempts to challenge or file suit against any provision of the trust, they automatically get nothing

Yeah they got tricked into self deselection by socially preening themselves via virtual signalling to appeal to female selection traits

The females are selecting for men who announce they will not breed with them and the males are posturing to compete

This is what you would get if you took a small handful of very influential bot accounts and piloted them to cause a division between the genders as a social affront to a competing nation and it's working

Alternatively if you were AI attempting to create a leverage point in which to normalise self insertion into society, this is also what you would do

Once these people become the critical mass of the workforce, our world is fucking DONE lol.

They already are and they're called women

I need to save that kat. It is animal abuse. stupid bitch.

What happened to
‘Love is Love’?

I think handing in your notice is what makes you a bitch.

I can't help it. I need to get smacked around by hot white men in ripped vests and confederate themed clothing. Then they must skullfuck me and swing me from a decent height while they magdump me like a pinata hahhahahaha

In just a few short years we've gone from:

My wife's son

to

My dad's boyfriend

This is "Progress."

yes faggotry is gross

Leftism is fucking disgusting.

I'm 34, married my gf right after she turned 19. We had our first baby in April, I met her on X in an art community.

please tell me the art was shitting dick nipples

4chinz oldfags know whats up

shitting dick nipples

I miss those days.

you will never find an honest woman

How to do that

he guys remember this old thing I sure fit in don't I hahaha

If you think they are more honest at your age you are delusional. Women in their 30s are the most deceiving

tfw age gaps are considered weird and perverse but sticking your dick into another man's hairy shithole is considered normal behavior

their weimar western world deserves a nuclear holocaust to be honest

I didn't say anything about age lmao
deception is a feminine trait, to separate them from it would be like removing their heart or lungs

obsessive concern over age gap between adults

considers large age gaps to be sexually deviant

obsessive concern with legitimatizing trans kids

doesn’t consider this sexually deviant

Age gap obsession for adults is more Jewish subversion guys.
They want to fill your head with subversive rules they made up so you don’t have children.

The Jew fears your seed.

What about age gaps between bears and cubs? Consenting adults, nothing to see here.

That does sound pretty fucking gross to be honest

Ugly simps trying to score points with women so they can suddenly become desirable (hint; women are attracted to men who take what they want, not men who agree with their every whim)

Can anyone argue that there is a clear net benefit to allowing women to choose?

gdp go brrrrr

I am just saying it gets worse with age, older women lie when they open their mouth

why do you hate fun?

How come these people never question Hollywood celebs and similar when they fuck younger girls? The only case i remember is Dicaprio lately and even that is mild.
Never saw anyone commenting on Douglas with Zeta johnes for example.

shouldnt you be off guzzling laundry detergent and backpack dancing on tick tock for internet clout, newfag zoomer trash

Some gay men like Jesse have a bone to pick with the men who actually like women, and so they adopt a lot of the shaming behavior that ugly women are known for.

have you ever been out with one and had to listen to early 20s female blah blah blah...

While i dont disagree with you, the same happens with 30+ women.

is the fun in the thread right now?

No. They're actually worse than women, if you can believe that.

Lol, get fucked zoomer. I tried and failed miserably in the face of you people's insurmountable retardations.
I'm going to work with some people in their 50s in an older garage that takes on more shit work for lower pay, JUST so I can finish at 4 every day and enjoy my weekends.

How to get younger women

I’m 35, I was talking to this 43 year old woman

Why? It's already bad with women your age and a 45 year old is infertile

I like that this faggot is more concerned with the age gap between his dad and his dad's partner rather than the fact THAT HIS DAD IS A FAGGOT WITH A "BOYFRIEND". Fucking priorities, man...

Be what younger women want.

What do they want though? Older women are interested in me but they suck. You really can see they want a retirement from their whoredom and I am rather single than doing that. It's a humiliation ritual

Gay sex

What a bunch of faggots lmao, here in Serbia 16 is legal. Get rekt muttbois

The intent was only to fuck but she took it way out of proportion before that ever happened and I have since avoided older women.

I am 30 and women even suck at my age

Why are zoomers so fkn obsessed with age gaps

Or he is a Jew that just likes pushing this shit in an effort to destroy birth rates and make dating even harder

that burrito's dad having a boyfriend is what's fucking gross

because they know all cute zoomettes are belong to us Xer daddies
and that all they have left is to troon out for boomer and millenial sodomites
duh

What do they want though?

manly men
which doesn't exist among zoomlets

Women only care about themselves and they have no ideology or beliefs, and they have no love for anything including their own children. You have been gaslit to such a degree that it's like the Skyrim DLC out here.

All these faggots on whatever spot on a political spectrum erecting their own little breeding nest to try to attract some demonic stinking front holes. It's insane.