Damn. This might be the first example of such a thing happening from a person with lithuanian origins.
What do you think about antinatalism? Do you think it's justified to bring new sentient beings into existence and basically guarantee them a lifetime of pain suffering that they never consented to? Or is it better and more moral not to reproduce at all.
Damn. This might be the first example of such a thing happening from a person with lithuanian origins
all bad things like leftist mental illnesses like communism or antinatalist comes from satan
the guy was an atheist
what more do you need?
if you think life itself is bad then becoming a suicide bomber seems like a reasonable thing to do
Too edgy to take seriously
Many people reproduce accidentally, by making a big mistake. That's not as morally bad as doing it intentionally, which the fertility clinic is responsible for facilitating.
How is antinatalism bad? It's literally the opposite. It tries to avoid pain and suffering for people.
The old roasties and gay couples going to the clinic do not deserve to reproduce, it's defying nature's law and lowering the quality of the species to enable them to do so.
look at it through god vs satan battle over humanity
if you cant, ask chatgpt
unironically kill your self right now.
I don't think either god or satan exists anon. It's just us.
I think nobody should reproduce. It's such an evil thing to impose a lifetime of pain and suffering on someone who never asked for it.
Wow rude.
Shut the fuck up you demonfaced kike rat.
Shut up okay?
Nobody wants to hear from your cursed demonic damned kind
All we want to hear is when you get genocided and killed preferably with a knife in the eyesocket.
Fuck you kike, fuck you and fuck mudslimes and all of you sandnigger excrements in human form.
I'm not jewish. You sound a bit psychotic. Everything ok with you?
He's right. What keeps you going? Why do you accept the rest of your life being pain and suffering? Just end it right now if it's so fucking bad.
How do you suppose I do that? None of the safe reliable and painless options are accessible to me.
I thought life was pain and suffering anyway? A small bit of pain to kill yourself is better than a lifetime of pain, isn't it?
Satanic Atheist hates children
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Not really. It's scary and I could end up a vegetable.
There are more reasons to stay alive once you're already there. For one, you can help prevent other people from reproducing by educating them and exposing them to an alternative point of view.
I don't think there's anything to suggest he's satanic nor that he hates children.
So you're a hypocritical coward. Some ideology you've got there.
Butthurtbelters proving once again they're mentally ill and retarded.
Nothing new under the sun.
An atheist who prefers satan
So an atheist
atheist
prefers satan
what?
Why hypocritical?
why eastern european do political assasinations so often
America is Satanic and can drive anyone insane. Being there immersed in that constant evil can get to almost anyone, especially if they aren't protected by Christ.
so your solution to end human misery is to end humanity itself and not to improve living conditions? Isn't it a bit retarded and no antinatalist believes it to be for the good of humanity they always have some environmentalist + judaic reasoning behind it
If you find some reason to exist then why would you deny it to anyone else? If you truly believed life was nothing but pain and suffering then you'd kill yourself to end the pain.
Do they? I do not share that impression.
You can do both. No matter how much you improve living conditions, life will still remain saturated with suffering, only a bit less. The right thing is to improve the living conditions for the people who are currently alive and to stop bringing new sentient beings into existence.
Isn't it a bit retarded and no antinatalist believes it to be for the good of humanity
This is patently untrue. There is a well understood distinction between philanthropic and misanthropic antinatalists, the former being quite a popular camp.
Well there is obviously more to life than pain and suffering, but the pain and suffering is significant enough to warrant not reproducing.
I don't think either god or satan exists anon. It's just us.
Both exist, basically everything the bible and catholic church teaches is true. This is the truth of our reality.
Jesus Christ is the truth.
But aren't you depriving future generations of existence and what it brings along with it? Is it not cruel to deny them the physical and spiritual pleasures of our world? It seems to me that you think you are in a higher morale plane to all of our ancestors.
But aren't you depriving future generations of existence and what it brings along with it?
No. Future generations do not exist. You cannot deprive someone who doesn't exist out of something. There is nobody to be deprived of it. It's only possible to deprive an existing person of something.
Is it not cruel to deny them the physical and spiritual pleasures of our world?
It's not, for the same reason.
It seems to me that you think you are in a higher morale plane to all of our ancestors.
Well I obviously am, and so probably are you. Antinatalism is just going one step further.
this post is propriety of christcuck gang
In the grand scheme of things your way of thinking fails somewhat because its uses christian morality as its foundation and its unspreadable. What would your argument be to a person whose world view is shaped by Nietzsche's ideals?
Well I obviously am, and so probably are you.
Its the morall standards of the strong that matter more than its rightness.
In the grand scheme of things your way of thinking fails somewhat because its uses christian morality as its foundation and its unspreadable
Why do you say it's based on christian morality? Christian morality instructs people to be fruitful and multiply. I think that's immoral and the opposite should be supported.
What would your argument be to a person whose world view is shaped by Nietzsche's ideals?
Do you have any specific points you'd like me address? An attempt at an argument to my idea of a person whose world view is shaped by Nietzsche's thought is to say that wanting to have children is just a denial of death and a cope. It represents cowardice and false hope to live your life through another person. Instead, reality of death should be confronted head on and faced with determination. By doing that, you have more hope of becoming who you are. There's also the fact that by having children you're not actually benefiting them. And it often makes more sense from a selfish perspective to not reproduce, given the high cost that children present and various risks associated with it.
Why do you say it's based on christian morality?
Because as with most other modernist ideals its tinged with humanitarianism and universalism while also rejecting its core principles.
You also like most other post christian ideologies seem to detach us humans from our animal nature. Its true that you don't have your children to benefit them, but we have them to have a continuation. > It represents cowardice and false hope to live your life through another person.
Its with in our nature to do that though? Reproduction is the only form of immortality we have that is why we keep doing it. Your ideology is not for fit for humans for it cannot be spread amongst everyone and it is counter to our nature.
Forcing a soul to suffer here for 80 years sounds pretty satanic to me dawg. I didnt consent to being here.
Anti natalism taken to its logical conclusion should result in the individual ending themselves. Why continue wasting resources on a genetic dead end with no future? It’s a toxic mentality to have
You’re either falling for the suffering meme or you’re one of those who uses it as a convenient excuse. You want your choice to end your family’s legacy to make you seem like a martyr when in reality you just couldn’t get laid.
Touch grass
not fit for humans
The humans? You mean the retarded spineless masses who worship their own domestification? No thanks. Breeders are turbo NPCs who want to bring kids into this world based purely on their normal fag status qoe of checking off the metaphysical check list of milestones normies obssess over.
No the right thing is to work to improve the world so the next generation has a better life. You don’t want to put in the work so your solution is to end their existence
Stop trying to make your laziness seem like some moral choice
muh cant get laid huuur duur
Men dont want a used up woman who will just use you like an atm machine until she finds a different cock to use like an atm machine. The cant get laid shaming tactic doesnt make any sense in 2025.
That’s not true. If it were true then the majority of people would end themselves. The fact they don’t says the pain and suffering of life is preferable to not existing
Is this a common name in LT?
Why continue wasting resources on a genetic dead end with no future?
To help educate others that reproduction is immoral and should be avoided. An antinatalist can prevent not just one but many lifetimes of pain and suffering, whole generations even.
You’re either falling for the suffering meme or you’re one of those who uses it as a convenient excuse.
Excuse for what?
You want your choice to end your family’s legacy to make you seem like a martyr when in reality you just couldn’t get laid.
I have mentioned nothing about being a martyr. It's never been about that. It's about doing what is the right thing to do, which is not reproducing.
As for not being able to get laid, I agree that I'm probably much less sexually successful than most other males. However, that's besides the point. I think I could reproduce if I made that my top priority and lower my standards enough. But why would I?
The deep state changed narratives and activates new MKUs.
Denounce the Talmud and the Torah
Come on, it's really simple
Wake up dipshit. Remember covid? Look at the state of humanity. Nothing but mindless consumers addicted to capitalism. Nothing but spineless insects who dont actually care about anything aside from fulfilling the status quo like a fucking ant. You people reduce humanity to that of worker bees.
And the (((bible))) stop being stupid. One jewish cult is no better than the others.
No the right thing is to work to improve the world so the next generation has a better life
Why should there be a next generation? What justifies bringing a new sentient being into existence whose life will be saturated by pain and suffering? They never asked for it.
You don’t want to put in the work so your solution is to end their existence
The solution is to end reproducing. People who want to continue existing may continue existing, even if through life extension technology. My contention is about bringing new sentient beings into existence. People who never consented to be born into this cruel and evil world full of suffering.
Stop trying to make your laziness seem like some moral choice
It is a moral choice. I have already explained how.
Yes. I was surprised to learn they were non white. Apparently they race mixed.
I don't think you understood my point. I admitted there is more to life than pain and suffering.
I denounce all holy books, including the Torah, the Bible (old and new testaments), the Quran, the Hadiths and every other holy book you can think of.
an atheist who prefers satan
an atheist who prefers a biblical character
Just to be clear I absolutely do not support violence of any kind. What the person did was deplorable and should be condemned unequivocally.
'Barcus', also spelt as 'Bartkus' is a Lithuanian last name of Hebrew origin, meaning 'Furrow'
things that make you go hmmm
amen
how bout the talmud?
You want an award? You got him didnt you boy oh boy ill be.
Fuck! I wrote Torah when I meant the Talmud. Here we go again
I denounce all holy books, including the Talmud, the Bible (old and new testaments), the Quran, the Hadiths and every other holy book you can think of.
Ok genetic dead end. You weren't gonna breed anyway this world was fated for Staceys and chads.
Oh boy oh boy im so sad i dont get to bring a child into this disgusting world :( woe is me. Oh and enjoy clocking in tomorrow wage cuck.
Umm...ok that's cool. Where the fuck did he gt C4 from?
Oh? Your life is fucked? Tough luck kiddo.
t. (((parents)))
Comic book villain philosophy.
My parents said it was an accident that they had me. That is more understandable and forgivable.
Not really. Reproduction being evil does not imply life being evil.
Oh boy oh boy im so sad i dont get to bring a child into this disgusting world :( woe is me.
If you really think about it, you have actually fulfilled your goals by not breeding while others around you do it nonetheless. Your way of thinking is just bitterness and not realy that deep
This fag's philosophy was exactly that life is evil. The guru he cited would say something like : Whats worse, continuing to suffer until inevitable death or ending the suffering on your terms. Which is logical if you won't bring life into the world because life is suffering. I think he reached the logical conclusion of the disgusting anti-life movement known as antinatalism. If you don't want kids there are much better reasons than the antinatalist excuse. If you accept the cornerstone of the ideology (life is only suffering) you may as well already be dead.
. If you accept the cornerstone of the ideology (life is only suffering)
That is not a part of the ideology. Many antinatalists disagree with this statement, including myself.
MUH EVIL VILLAIN FROM JEWISH FOLKLORE IS LE BAD!
Then what's your excuse?
Excuse for what?
For not trying to bring a child into the world.
Nvm found it. It's the same picture.
The excuse is that it would be an obviously evil and immoral thing to do. Why should I bring a new sentient being into this world full of evil and pain and suffering? Especially when they never asked for it, and there aren't easily accessible ways to peacefully, painlessly and reliably end your life?
Same damned thing. That's Guy's actual philosophy that he cited in his manifesto. Non-consent and suffering. You've accepted the same thing. He just took it a step further to correct the perceived injustice by trying to end as much life as he could without causing suffering.
If the logical conclusion of your morality is to advocate for human extinction then consider that your morality is flawed.
So what?
Why would that make it flawed?
Why would that make it flawed?
Are you pleased with the conclusion of your morality?
Also, you should have never accepted that. People can confirm to suffering. They can learn from it, and from the depths of suffering many have found their indomitable human will through it. Many of these use this experience to inspire others. It's terrible that people embrace this as if they know the future. You don't. You don't know what a child's destiny might be. I'm grateful for my life in spite of human suffering. I'm happy for the tears I cry for others, including this poor soul. How can life always be suffering when there are so many forms of love that people can and often do demonstrate to the people around them. Be like them.
confirm
Conform
this is the first time any of those fags have followed their beliefs to their logical conclusion so I'll give him that, none of those depressed sois have the balls to kill themselves
What do you think about antinatalism?
I genuinely think its cool, hopefully more of America''s youth embrace its fatalistic fun.
Sure, I'm pleased with it.
People can confirm to suffering
Sure, people get used to a lot of things. If a woman is periodically raped and beaten every day she will get used to it. She might even find her "human will" through it. Doesn't make that ok. It's not ok to suggest people to such things. Just because an evil may have some positive unintended side effects, doesn't make it ok. Suffering and pain is bad for basically the same reason why subjecting a woman to be raped and beaten every day is bad.
Many of these use this experience to inspire others
The inspiration is not needed in the first place if there's no pain and suffering. Inspiration is not intrinsically good. It's only good in as much as it helps people through pain and suffering, both of which are bad things to be avoided.
You don't. You don't know what a child's destiny might be
I know their life will be full of pain and suffering, as is for the vast majority of people.
I'm grateful for my life in spite of human suffering
Genuinely why? You wouldn't have missed out on anything if you were never born to begin with. Yet you probably experienced a lot of pain and misery in your life. Why would you be grateful for it?
How can life always be suffering when there are so many forms of love that people can and often do demonstrate to the people around them
That's all fine and good. And life is not always just suffering. But there's much more than enough suffering and pain in an individual life and the world in general to warrant not having children, especially when they didn't ask to be born and cannot consent to it.
atheist
prefers satan
huh???
Sure, I'm pleased with it.
Then it's fine I guess, enjoy not having kids.
And yet the most famous anti-natalist is now a terrorist. And a Lithuanian. Heh.
most of those troons dont have balls at all anymore.
The most famous antinatalist is still David Benatar. Nice try though.
Democrat
Cult
Abolitionist Vegan
Atheist
Satanist
Poor guy was a victim of 5 different Jewish PsyOps
By bombing them?
No, by advocating people to stop reproducing. Reproduction is the cause of all pain and suffering the world.
Bruh that's craaaazy
Just because an evil may have some positive unintended side effects, doesn't make it ok
Evil is giving up on life and killing yourself. Suffering is part of struggling. Two fighters destroy each other's bodies for what, because they wanted to suffer? No, because they saw something worth fighting for. A person struggles to survive either out of fear of death, or out of want of life. It's too soon, they say. I don't want to die. And that's most people, there is something keeping them going. That could be you if you didn't swallow the poisoned pill of a demoralized, self-defeating ideology.
Evil is giving up on life and killing yourself
That's just the truth. There's nothing evil about it. What IS evil is forcing a new unconsenting being into existence.
Suffering is part of struggling
Both suffering and struggling are bad and undesirable. They are an evil to be avoided.
Two fighters destroy each other's bodies for what, because they wanted to suffer?
Because they enjoy the sport. And sure, some people might enjoy some controlled specific kinds of pain and suffering. However, the vast majority of pain and suffering in life is suffering that is not welcome and that makes everyone worse off, which is what antinatalists are concerned about.
And that's most people, there is something keeping them going.
My reason to keep going is that there are currently no viable options for painless and reliable euthanasia on offer for someone like me, and DYI versions are too scary and risky.
You wouldn't have missed out on anything if you were never born to begin with.
I'd have missed out on everything. Including what it feels like to break a bone, lose a friend to death, be betrayed, humiliated, attacked. All of these experiences enrich the experience when things are going right. I'd never know how it feels to cry my eyes out in gratitude to God. I'd never feel the relief of making it out of a chaotic situation. I'd have never known how it feels to be moved by music, enjoy a delicious meal. I'd never have known a hug. I'd never have met the men that inspired me irl or read about the men that inspire me in books.
Why focus so hard on the bigger picture when there are so many things (you) could be experiencing in your little insignificant life? You're only given so much time to experience it until you die. I envy low IQ people for this sometimes. They don't have these lofty philosophies, they just do what they need to do day in and day out to have the life they want.
atheist who prefers satan
There's nothing evil about it. What IS evil is forcing a new unconsenting being into existence.
I am grateful for my existence, how do you know that the new being will feel like you? What if that person actually gets you to appreciate your own life in spite of suffering?
Literally sour gapes why is this thread so long
the guy was sour for not being able to gaoe anyone, hence all this atrocious dialogue sitting in their head with no outlet jesus this guy needs a lesson in writing and grammer
lose a friend to death, be betrayed, humiliated, attacked
I have experienced all of these except losing a friend to death. None of them are experiences I appreciated. I would have been better off if they were avoided.
All of these experiences enrich the experience when things are going right.
How? Wouldn't it be better if they didn't happen at all? Do you honestly think you're better off from having been humiliated and attacked? To put it in another way, do you wish that were to happen to someone else you love?
I'd never feel the relief of making it out of a chaotic situation
Rather than experience the relief, I'd prefer to not experience the chaotic situation in the first place. To give you an analogy, just because after you recover from an illness, you might feel very good, it's better to not have gotten sick in the first place. I do not wish anyone to get ill and sick, even though recovering from sickness can feel good. Because there was no need for recovering in the first place if the person didn't get sick. Sickness is bad and should be avoided. So is pain, betrayal, humiliation and suffering in general.
I'd never have known a hug
I don't think you need to have suffered to experience and appreciate a hug. Imagine a group of girls hugging each other while happy. The hug is not conditional on their suffering, it's just a positive experience for everyone.
Why focus so hard on the bigger picture when there are so many things (you) could be experiencing in your little insignificant life?
I really don't think there's that much for me to experience, apart from a deluge of pain and suffering and humiliation that awaits me in the future.
You're only given so much time to experience it until you die
I prefer to not have been given any time at all. What is the point?
I envy low IQ people for this sometimes. They don't have these lofty philosophies, they just do what they need to do day in and day out to have the life they want.
I don't envy them, just like I don't envy farm animals locked up in horrible conditions. They feel pain and suffer in their life just like me, they just don't have the faculties to realize and properly contextualize their predicament.
telling others they need to learn english
can't write a coherent sentence
Most self aware Anon Babbletard
It's a post made by a right winger. Of course they're going to exaggerate and satan panic routine.
Bad [thing] happens
Throw dart at board of [things] to blame it on
antinatalism is born
You guys fabricate shit like this every fucking day it's unreal.
Tomorrow, someone will burn themselves alive at an Ulta store or some stupid shit over the gross abuse of people wanting the ideal human body.
grammer nazi
hiding on the internet
oh im sorry i didnt know grammer nazis still existed how do those sour gapes taste