Russia has no reason to accept lousy terms...

If they accepted the original Istanbul deal 1 month into the war, they could have kept all of their regions

Russia is advancing: fact
Ukraine is reteating: fact
The ones yelling for ceasefire are Ukraine and EU: fact

Does it sound to you like Russia is losing?

So were the Nazis prior to 1943 and the USA in Afganistan/Vietnam

what?

The bare minimum would be getting the 4 regions

I think you didn’t follow the war. Russia was forced to surrender large pieces of territory they already occupied. At the current speed the conquering of these 4 regions will take more than half a decade and cost in the region of millions of troops. The Russia economy is already in shambles and the stocks are running low. Ukraine has most of the important fortifications and defense positions in the rest of these four regions. They won’t surrender them.

They were also advancing. And we know how it all turned out
Current war is probably most similar to Iran-Iraq war of 1980s
Iraq made some progress but then they got bogged down for 8 years
Result? Iran claims victory because the border went to status quo...which is a form of victory I guess and Iraq claimed victory because....Sadam would skin you if you didn't nod

Russian economy is collapsing: fact
Russia is starting to run low on military resources: fact

Russia was forced to surrender large pieces of territory they already occupied

there's really not that many pieces left to conquer in the grand scheme of things

At the current speed the conquering of these 4 regions will take more than half a decade and cost in the region of millions of troops

this is pure fanfiction

The Russia economy is already in shambles and the stocks are running low

more fanfiction

Ukraine has most of the important fortifications and defense positions in the rest of these four regions.

the fanfiction doesn't stop

Exactly, Russia already signed a treaty to respect Ukraine’s sovereign borders, and broke it, why believe them twice

fool me once shame on you, fool me, fool me, you can’t get fooled again

They were also advancing. And we know how it all turned out

Current war is probably most similar to Iran-Iraq war of 1980s

Iraq made some progress but then they got bogged down for 8 years

Result? Iran claims victory because the border went to status quo...which is a form of victory I guess and Iraq claimed victory because....Sadam would skin you if you didn't nod

people like you compared this war already to WW1, to WW2, to Afganistan, to Vietnam, to Iraq, now to Iran.
The cope never stops, and it's so delicious.

Here's a protip: how about you stop comparing? And just look at the real facts on the ground? Ukraine ain't winning shit

Russian economy is collapsing: fact

can I see the collapse? Or it's classified information?

Russia is starting to run low on military resources: fact

Again, can I see it? Or it's also classified information?

Neither of those are true retard it's the opposite.

They are shunting public debt on to so called private companies, like the railways and gazprom
They are sending e-carts and lada’s (not to mention fucking donkeys and peewee 50’s) on assaults instead of bmps and tanks

Russian economy is collapsing: fact

Lie

Russia is starting to run low on military resources: fact

Lie

Lying won't win you the war tranny

Webms in here

They are sending e-carts and lada’s (not to mention fucking donkeys and peewee 50’s)

yeah this is cope, just as expected
for the most part they're sending motorcycles on assaults, because they are fast enough to outrun suicide-drones, and small enough to manevour through minefields.
The use of other unconventional methods of transports is also directly linked to the reality of this war.

As for classical military equipment, Russia keeps delivering newly built and refurbished tanks straight from the factory. And this ramp up of mil production is acknowledged even by the west. You just don't talk about it because it makes you depressed

there's really not that many pieces left to conquer in the grand scheme of things

Russia was beaten badly and couldn’t fulfill any of its strategic goals. Even the NATO membership wasn’t going to happen with the Donbas issues ongoing in the first place.

this is pure fanfiction

I think your English isn’t sufficient to understand the meaning. It’s called extrapolation based on the current gains per day and the loses per km^2.

Russian economy is doing fine

Than you didn’t read the statements of their own central bank. Roughly 20 percent interest rates and even admitted inflation levels well above that.

Ukraine has no fortifications there

I think you likely know better. Even the Russian military doesn’t deny this.

The use of other unconventional methods of transports is also directly linked to the reality of this war.

The reality that they are using fucking donkeys instead of trucks? I could understand if it was a mountainous goat track situation, but it’s the fucking marches of Ukraine for fuck sake

As for classical military equipment, Russia keeps delivering newly built and refurbished tanks straight from the factory.

Occasionally they use them piecemeal, but it’s getting rarer and rarer, usually keeps, lada’s, Chinese electric golf carts and bikes

*usually jeeps, lada etc

manevour through minefields

retard thinks minefields come with a big red marker on them like it's a videogame lmao

hh brother
the west is losing against THAT?
we fucked

are you 5 years old?

It seems pretty stalematey to me, even though it’s the dregs of the west being sent

Occasionally they use them piecemeal, but it’s getting rarer and rarer, usually keeps, lada’s, Chinese electric golf carts and bikes

quite scary that NATO's favorite child and moneydumpster is losing against donkeys. Truly sad indeed.

What a stupid slav retard America's job in Afghanistan/Vietnam was as a occupation force. Ukraine is being grinded down with its aged demographics buckling.

4 regions

Its 5 now
Thats why you are begging him for a ceasfire?

Human waves works against a smaller country, but the casualties that Russia is taking are atrocious (although you won’t admit it)

Iran literally retook all it's land by year 2, it is year 3 and Russia still holds the corridor. This crap has been over since the failed 2023 offensives.

Human waves works against a smaller country

human waves are your fanfiction again

but the casualties that Russia is taking are atrocious (although you won’t admit it)

yes, so atrocious that Russia still has no mandatory mobilisation, and all troops are on voluntary contract basis, while in Ukraine if you try to run away from the recruiters you become this: files.catbox.moe/glp7n6.MP4

Except Russia never said that you bloodthirsty fucking troon

Russian economy is collapsing: fact

Russia is starting to run low on military resources: fact

Proofs? Russia certainly isnt behaving like a collapsing state would.

There's no such thing as "maneuver through minefields" in Ukraine retard, it's a continuous line from one end to the other. You demine a corridor, then go through it before it's mined by artillery again.

just wait till Mathijs, Jean-Pierre and Kieran will quit their tech job they studied 5 years to get and stall their family plans to go and defend Poland an Latvia from the evil orcs and chinks
Putler will hear our ROAR!

I AM A WOMAN!

I AM A WOMAN!

I AM A WOMAN!

I AM A WOMAN!

I AM A WOMAN!

That's literally all you're doing lmao

this niga thinks its a video game

It’s always telling that you have those videos on command, but not the lada, donkey and e-bike videos, do they not let you look at that folder?
Obviously the population of Ukraine is smaller then the population of Russia, but Russia has conscripted people, remember that lad that shot up the conscription office because they took his mate? Or have you memory holed that?

news.google.com/search?q=Russia economy&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US:en

Take your pick from these evil biased western news. They must all be fake because russia stronk because kremlin said so.

Man I better chop of my dick because of a memeflag post, you fucking faggot, I hope the blocking detachment thinks you look cute

It’s always telling that you have those videos on command

the video is literally from yesterday
but on the other hand, all your donkey videos are on command

all you nafo troons do is project, but this won't save Ukraine

I don’t have videos, because I don’t save them, but I did direct you to a place you can see them
Why do you have them saved? Is it your job?

dude it's in the news

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. You sure are one stupid nigger

Take your pick from these evil biased western news

literally says "russian economy is slowing down" which means nothing, if you consider the fact that EU economy is basically not even moving anymore. I suppose you're still new to propaganda, so you can't even read their language

redpill yourself on AP and Reuters newfren

still winning though - against the might of NATO lmao

If you want to be treated seriously then don't spout retarded garbage.

two mire weeks

They/you have been saying russia is about to collapse/out of material for years. Much like the climate alarmist hoax, when you keep making predictions that dont come true, your credibility dies.

I hope the blocking detachment

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Every accusation is a confession with these faggots

Why do you have them saved?

I like sharing with retards like you.

Here's an image from today of a human wave of donkeys driving Ladas planting russian flags everywhere. Truly bizarre

If you want to be treated seriously then don't spout retarded garbage.

do you genuinely think that demining in an active combat zone means removing every single mine imaginable from an X/Y pocket? Are you really that fucking retarded?

holy shit your cope is massive

Is russia really advancing or is it a couple inches?

Do you think a motorbike is any better for moving through a demined area than a tank or a BTR?

i dont know how lazy you niggers are when there's thousands of resources online to check
militarysummary.com/

Do you think a motorbike is any better for moving through a demined area than a tank or a BTR?

do you have no spacial awareness?

That’s an image of jewgle maps or some gay shit, not an image/video of an assault with bmps/tanks from this week
Try again

it's an image of the changing situation on the battlefield. Notice how pro-Ukrainian mappers stopped making updates for quite a while ago. Even DeepstateUA is lagging behind by 3+ weeks as of late, because they are pressed not to announce lost positions.
Ukraine is FUCKED, and this is why they're begging so desperately for a ceasefire now.

I take it as "no, but I'm going to pretend I do".

you can take it as yes, using something that is small, light, tiny, and endangers only 1 soldier in case of engamenet is about 10 times better to traverse through a minefield with, than an iron coffin

They ain’t even the paratroop vespas from the fifties that had a recoiless attached, just a temu ebike, how can you argue with a straight face that it’s comparable to a bmp/apc/tank?
Or is “straight face” a foreign concept to you faggots?

They ain’t even the paratroop vespas from the fifties that had a recoiless attached, just a temu ebike, how can you argue with a straight face that it’s comparable to a bmp/apc/tank?

what the actual fuck is wrong with you?
Why do you niggers insist on increasing your chances of being blown up by a mine? Yes.
Instead of a tank, I suggest you use a coca-cola truck, make sure it has as many wheels, as much weight, and as much size as possible, to blow up every single mine on the field as you drive through it

you are pfftppffpptlttt

Shitting out of your mouth again, anon?

Only Ukrainians care about the fate of Ukraine. All the Ukraine supporters in the west are hell bent on maximizing Russian losses and weakening Russia. Ukraine is just the venue and Ukrainian casualties cost the west nothing.

So its the same map as 2 years ago more or less. Why be so aggro when Im correct?

So its the same map as 2 years ago

not really, fortresses like Vuhledar and Avdiivka are faaaaar behind the frontlines already.
Stop coping

I stopped paying attention to the war. Id prefer if Russia took the whole thing in one fell swoop

I stopped paying attention to the war. Id prefer if Russia took the whole thing in one fell swoop

everyone prefers that, but to this day Putin still doesn't want to drop even a single missile on Ukraine's government buildings.
If he'd redirect at least 20% of the firepower used in Donbass to pound the leadership in Kyiv, the war would be over tomorrow.

However, until Russia makes that decision, the war will continue in the east

donkey is good

donkey stealth

donkey don’t trigger mine field

why western tranny not ride donkey like Joseph and Mary intended

Best cope I’ve ever seen, please pass this to supervisors for a raise but don’t ever pretend to be a superpower again

Why do you think he refrains from that?

Their advancement is barely noticable on the map and they are paying dearly for it. We're talking years just to fully take over the original 4 claimed regions. Are you familiar with pyrrhic victories?

If Russia was doing badly you would not be begging them for a ceasefire. Simple as

The only one begging is the burgers. A ceasefire would be nice but I also don't mind my tax dollars going to blowing up ziggers and getting kino footage in return, the conflict can go on as long as necessary for all I care.

yeah, they said "eight"

Nope
Disinfo troons everywhere
Putin said the areas where they voted to join Russia in 2014 and 2022.

Go shill for endless war elsewhere
Faggot

ukraine is over
i'm sorry, taras

everyone prefers that, but to this day Putin still doesn't want to drop even a single missile on Ukraine's government buildings.

Because those are russian historical buildings in a historically russian city, Kiev.
Why would you even consider destroying your own cities? Ok it'll take russian army 6 months +- 2 weeks longer to take it all. So what?

HERE ARE TERMS

ALL THE BANAN

NOT 1 BANAN LESS

LOL and what guarantee does Ukraine get out of making them selves even more voulnerable?

Can't trust anything Russians sign

ukraine will NEVER have (((security guarantees)))
the only guarantees of security ukraine will ever receive are simply lowering its tone when it speaks to Russia,
and stopping the nigger pitbull behavior its perpetrating on behalf of london
it will ONLY be the unilateral and unconditional surrender of the ukraine
period
the end
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on the Russian border

it's called "losing a war to Russia", a common way for european empires to end

there is no scenario where "ukraine wins"
absolutely none
ukraine is like germany after ww1 or ww2
it LOST, and it gets NOTHING

The only one begging is the burgers

More lying. Euros were also begging. Now we're in the 17th round of sanctions because their begging failed lmao