What is a race?

"What is a woman" was genius. A simple question to fight gaslighting what we can observe with our eyes... Now I ask you Anon Babble, what is a race? I mean after all if a class of people are so distinct they are a separate race there should be no need to put a star patch on them right?

Race is a subset of Homo sapiens defined by allele concentration based on breeding groups prior to globalization.

haplogroups

no need to put a star patch on them right?

Some autists have face blindness and appreciate the help.

N-NO YOU CAN'T JUST ACTUALLY GIVE AN ANSWER, THIS IS A GOTCHA QUESTION, YOU AREN'T ALLOWED TO USE FACTS AND EVIDENCE YOU HAVE TO SAY IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT PEOPLE YOU DON'T LIKE OR THEIR SKIN IS UGLY OR SOMETHING NO NO NO

defined by allele concentration

to what degree? by that definition alone every person is a different race

Well sometimes I also ask

why can’t two ethnically Igbo parents have an ethnically Irish baby?

And have yet to receive an answer. Because the issue is that race is so obviously not a social construct it’s awkward to argue. How do you argue that you’re alive? Self evident statement can unfortunately lend themselves to semantic bullshit.

To the degree that they’re shared by the pre-globalization breeding group, if you had finished reading my post. I will ask you: why can’t two ethnically Ainu people have an ethnically Norwegian baby? Why can’t two Italians have a Cherokee baby? Take your time

Sub species

oh thats an easy one. you can tell the apart visually

Also I wanted to add, your point is actually a good one but applied to ethnicities rather than individuals. However, there are genetic markers that are nonetheless shared along with phylogenies. Asians and epicanthal folds, for example

phylogenies

This should be phenotypes LOL, I’m not arguing negroes are a separate phylum

serious talk there is no way to cleanly separate the definition of race and ethnicity

An arbitary classification based on actual and (huge) genetic differences.

Globalization always happened in a sense, races still exist under globalization, you’re subtly implying races can’t exist without nations

Maybe not, but there’s nothing wrong with higher order classifications. A genus and species are the same idea but defined by absolute values rather than category. There’s no logical reason race and ethnicity can’t be the same.

No European ethnicity has the genetic markers for melanin production found in all sub Saharan African ethnicities. That’s a marker of race right there. No SSA ethnicities have long, wavy natural hair. No Western European ethnicities have epicanthal folds. Etc

so huge you need a patch to tell them apart

I think it’s misleading at best to argue humans of 20,000 years ago were able to traverse the distances (and therefore populations) of today which geographically limited the concentrations of differentiable genetic markers

OP (faggot ofc) btfo

You need a patch to tell apart a Swede and a Bantu negro?

tell the apart visually

In which basis, hmm?

Globalization is an economic term really, OP is implying races formed prior to waves of immigration but immigration also happened, look at Proto-Indo Europeans and Aryan invasions across Asia. The question is more of whether it was allowed or not, really. My point in any case was that races are real but they’re never truly stagnant because humans themselves are not stagnant forever, which means you can’t imply that the white race doesn’t exist today just due to the out of control immigration into the west

Race and gender are biological things. What do people discuss so much about that shit?

genus and species are separate because they are defined by absolute values

right, because only one category match can have fertile offspring

There’s no logical reason race and ethnicity can’t be the same.

no because neither category has to match to produce fertile offspring

I think he is being sarcastic
not sure though...

you dont and thats my point

That isn’t entirely true. And I’m only using those as examples of classifications that are measuring the same thing but at different levels. Do you understand limited-use evidence?

If you’re able to perceive negroes and white people as different your empathy will be more difficult to weaponize

if you explain why it isnt entirely true i wont pick it apart so much to fatigue you

some animal populations classified as separate species can have fertile offspring and you aren’t fatiguing me

Yeah, even between "white" people there are racial differences.

The anglosaxon is not the same as the scadinavian or "white" slav or "white" mediterranean.

Jews are weird.

You need a star patch to tell them apart

For Jews, particularly the ashkenazi which are greek/slavoid mutts which questionable genetic links to the original people. It's more like a mental illness.

Can you tell from the get go, without deeper observation, when someone is psychopathic and a threat to you?

Honest question I'd like you to answer. How do you determine a dog's breed? How can you determine that a dog is a chihuahua vs. a basset hound?

purely visual. as opposed to anything else in life i think it just that simple

Then how come I sent in my dog's DNA to a lab and they told me the exact breed he is? They didn't see him at all, how could they tell he was an Australian Shepherd? How is that possible?

thats easy. you are bad at identifying dogs

what is a race

What is air, what is water?

You said you can only identify a breed by looking at it, yet a company identified my dog's breed just with a DNA swab. How's that possible?

right so its determined regardless of senses

Because dog breeds have unique genetic markers. It's the exact same with people. The fact that there is fuzziness at the boundaries doesn't negate the existence of logical groupings.