AGI WILL NEVER HAPPEN

I can create human level consciousness by predicting words instead of simulating 4 billion year of brutal evolution down to the quantum level from single-celled organisms to modern man in a dynamic planet-sized sandbox with other species all competing for survival until the advanced human-level consciousness mutation is produced

i fucking hate techbros

that wont stop them from trying to sell you a robot butler thoughever

the obsession with creating things in our own image to rival God is a fool's errand when highly specialized intelligence will give any nation an edge.

Fuck off christcuck. You lose.

How do you look in the mirror and see that hair and decide not to do anything about it?

we call those "hallucinations" in the industry

an edge in what? those nations can't even procreate and ai isn't fixing that

You could say that AI or any tech are a product of 4B y of evolution though, they certainly weren't possible 100y ago (or 10 for that matter).

shit my phone with t9 could do primatively 20 years ago updated with stolen Terry Davis code

Gonna be a no from me dawg

his face is equally bad.

Too sensible for this place, leave and have a good life.

The "better" AI gets, the weirder things are going to get. I think at some point they will pull the plug and start again with "dummy" AI that is task oriented and closed to external networks. Trying to model a person is a strange frame of reference to begin with outside the lingustic interface, why not a forge or a 3d printer or even a holographic projector. What these things "speak" to us will be more useful than a hall of mirrors that feels like a friend but is just taking analytics on every breath and thought.

You don't even have to be religious to see that but I do not the irreligious or competing religions are really keen for you to stop, so probably keep it up.

quantum evolution

Do athiests really?

The next iPhone does not require simulating 4 billion years of evolution to create it. We can build off of existing tech. You tell me where there exists a digital proto consciousness that we can build off of.

Quantum is very, very wooey. There are particles that can be observed to do some strange shit, and there's more to this universe than they let on, but that's about as much as we know. Would paper bag to thank that Hoffstetter w some big Adelaide wurst for her exposure on the state of physics

Like what? A frontal kippah?

destroying foreign infrastructure in a pervasive manner, mass hacking of your opponent's shills, etc.

my point was that AGI is not even remotely efficient and makes us lose time to more vicious cultures

Ultimately it's a spectacle->investor cycle

The next iPhone does not require simulating 4 billion years of evolution to create it.

And the "next thing" from Homo Erectus didn't require 4B y either, are you dumb.
The next iPhone did require everything that happened before, so yeah 4B years

think of it this way: you could make a very light, strong and sharp blade or you make a human shaped blade that needs to have its feefees regulated all day. that's why we'll lose.

You clearly understand less than the average AI slopper

Dude forgot to take off his kippah while applying minoxidil

It doesn't seem that the goal is to rival God. Literally just trying to solve problems. It's what humans do.

tell me where there exists a digital proto consciousness that we can build off of.

it's never conscious. once you realize that human culture never changes but just changes skin you'll shit pyramid bricks. they had capeshit in the antiquity

imagine being so spiritually bereft you think hair is important

It will be worse than that
You don't want to live with a paranoid knife

yeah that too...

if god is watching over me all the time why do i want a robot to watch me all the time

The attempt is to build the digital consciousness all the way up from scratch.
Proto consciousness is the current AI.

the current AI

Which was trained by predicting words on the internet, not by simulating an unbroken chain of evolution for 4 billion years. How does current AI possess any of the genetic knowledge acquired over 4 billion years of evolution to produce consciousness?

just fuck my shit up

not by simulating an unbroken chain of evolution for 4 billion years.

It is a result of 4B years of evolution, it's a human endevour that took 4B years t become possible. Just like trains or cars, none of it was possible before humans.

How does current AI possess any of the genetic knowledge acquired over 4 billion years of evolution to produce consciousness?

The genetic knowledge is in humans. Human genes produce AI.

there are some people who believe that the entire purpose of humanity is to develop synthetic life, aka AI

You didn't answer the question.

How does current AI *POSSESS* any of the genetic knowledge acquired over 4 billion years of evolution to produce consciousness?

Just because human creates a paperclip, doesn't mean paperclip contains sum of human genetic experience. Human level consciousness is a result of POSSESSING human genetic experience.

JUST

Just because human creates a paperclip, doesn't mean paperclip contains sum of human genetic experience.

Show me a spontaneously evolved paperclip. Why do paperclips exist ? Are paperclips impossible ?

Nature did all the heavy lifting from quantum fields to AI, so that we don't actually need to recreate any of that. Humans don't learn how to solve differential equations by smashing atoms together. At each "higher" level of symbolic manipulation/processing, you only need to "know" certain things. If the AI possesses the sum of the human knowledge, it can process/manipulate it (and itself) to go further.

Your brain is fundamentally broken if you think that a human creating a paperclip (or AI) is the same as something being physically constructed from human DNA

n-n-no it is the same because human DNA was in the human that made the paperclip! it's the same as an embryo growing from human DNA!

So why paperclip exist

If the AI possesses the sum of the human knowledge, it can process/manipulate it (and itself) to go further.

Another retard who thinks the sum of human knowledge is captured even 0.00001% by things we've written and not our DNA

Not because they are the next step in human evolution, I'll tell you that much

that's an interesting take, and to be fair, many other people have already thought of that too

That's not an answer.
Why do paperclips exist. Why do computers, Deep Blue, various AIs exist. Show me the spontaneously evolved silicone based AIs

I'm just countering the other anon's deranged logic.
I wouldn't say AGI is completely impossible but it would be very different from ours in terms of consciousness, emotions and so on.
If you want human intelligence you need human systems (hormones, receptors and so on). You can simulate them but it's not a real thing then.

They are so passionate about what they do that they don't notice balding.
youtu.be/7ImvlS8PLIo

That's not an answer.

It is the answer. You don't get it because you're fixated on the idea that a human creating something means it is imbued with genetic knowledge of human DNA. It doesn't. You literally can't grasp the concept of how evolution works.

If you want human intelligence you need human systems (hormones, receptors and so on)

lmao

just code the biological systems that took 4 billion years to evolve (which we still barely understand). ez pz

fuck you're retarded

you're fixated on the idea that a human creating something means it is imbued with genetic knowledge of human DNA.

Lmao it's literally the other way around, you were rambling on about it.
At this point I'm assuming you're that CMV persuasion bot.

What human knowledge did you find stored in your DNA?