The Wild East

Europeans and germans particularly are very harmful for nature
You'd never seen precious siberian tigers if germans eas in charge

Also germans would've never had such big territory. They literally never had an empire or even a big country not for a coincidence but because they always mistreated minorities to the point of them rioting.

Why do u think we kicked out Teutons from our cunt but subjugated to Mongols? Germans can't rule other people, but they're good as instruments

If Germans are so much better, then explain this.

And also explain why are you being raped and cucked by Muslims.

The Russians are still organizing Slavic Civilization, which is the next great civilization to rise, replacing chaotic, decadent, dying Western (Germanic) Civilization.
Read your Spengler
Even if Hitler had succeeded, the Reich would be decaying by now, if not already in the dumpster of history like the USSR, just due to the natural tendency of civilizations to decay and die.

Exactly, Germans are bad at ruling empires, so they can never maintain an empire.
Empires require a certain liberality, like Rome, France, Britain, America, even Russia.

Good luck building roads

We saw what happened with Peron and Franco. Fascism and National Socialism simply transitions back to capitalism as soon as the first generation of leaders die.
Why do you think people like Krupp supported it? It was a temporary solution to kill all communists but once communists are gone, libertarians must go back and replace national socialists

This is spot on
Fascism is unsustainable, just the defense mechanism of capitalism in crisis.

John Hamburger from Texas Oblast here

Hitler said he was content to let Stalin conduct his "interesting social experiment" on the other side of the Urals.

yeah bro, you can have the breadcrumbs

no people, no industry, no natural resources, no suitable temperatures

aren't I generous? wait why are you shooting at m-ACK!

Russia under Russians (Ivan Kalita, Ivan Grozny)

great

Russian under g*rmans (Peter the faggot, Nicholas the cuck)

terrible

I’m seeing a pattern here

Sorry bro Hitler was just nowhere near as good as European colonialism / imperialism,unfit to even stand in its shadow if we're being honest.

Doesn't even matter if we're talking succes, morality, legacy, potentiak or whatever else.

All German occupations were nothing but looting

They got no volunteers this proves how evil they are

Western (Germanic) Civilization.

GERMANICS ARENT EVEN FUCKING WESTERN

Can we rangeban amerimutts? They have Coca Cola and reused frying oil in their veins, they’re all part black and everything they say is the new stupidest thing I have ever heard

Yep, Russians have absolutely ruined most of their good land. Its why they keep trying to take Ukraine.

You know that Romanovs used to speak French and were a big fan of French absolutism? They basically copied you

The average Russian is richer than the average European. Russia is the fourth richest country on earth by PPP.
So Russia doesn't have US dollars? So what? They have tons of real goods, for cheap, in Russia. Russia knows how to survive in an autarchic economic system.

false
also who are you to talk
don't you have a war to fight? lmao let me know when you decide to serve your people and i'll jerk off to the next dead russian i see on drone footage knowing its likely you

let me know when you decide to serve your people and i'll jerk off

east Berlin/west Berlin

That shit is frozen solid.

what is that supposed to mean
a bit too early to be drinking vlad

to mean

rather illustrate

Just like how whites are better off being ruled by Jews, eh?

You know that Romanovs used to speak French and were a big fan of French absolutism? They basically copied you

Ivan the terrible was pretty similar to Louis XIV the sun king
But you can’t have absolutism if your king is a nonce like Louis XVI or Nicholas II

Franco

fascism

Is leftard shit tasty?

illustrate east/west berlin?

webm related illustrates next 3+ years for your people while you drink and talk nonsense

webm related illustrates next 3+ years for your people while you drink and talk nonsense

Drones are a tiny part of casualties but they’re the only ones that provide footage

Most kills comes from artillery and Russia has a lot more of that than Ukraine

illustrate east/west berlin?

no

Nicholas II was quite a brilliant tzar, just tainted by Bolshevik propaganda.

LOL

Name one of his achievements
But otherwise, Ivan IV was a brilliant Tsar who was tainted by Romanov propaganda. Germanics ruin everything.

Unrelated. Calling Franco fascist is not just left-wing, it's actually Russian commie thing.

Just look at Russia development stats under him. Blooming economy, spreading education, rising standard of living. Bolsheviks managed to get the same standards that was in 1914 only in sixties.

Russians are wise. Just because he was also a monarchist doesn't mean he wasn't a fascist. Several of white army emigres worked for Germany's nazi regime but were monarchists by heart.

Drones are a tiny part of casualties but they’re the only ones that provide footage

that's outdated info. today they account for 60-80% of combat casualties. the rest is artillery and gunshot wounds are in the very minority.
artillery is still a big part of ukraine but russias artillery systems have been severely depleted after all these years

there is more info on this if you look.

Fascism is not just every authoritarian state, lmao. Franco was surely authoritarian and anti-commie, though there's no reason call him fascist.

Nicholas II was quite a brilliant tzar,

pardons leftists who wants him dead

doesn’t rule

doesn’t know military tactics or strategy or politics

does nothing

let’s an unwashed schizo into the elite and act as the de facto regent, giving him the ability to fire and hire anyone he wanted in the governement

abdicate

don’t even have loyal bodyguards

get shot

Very... competent indeed

Ivan Grozny (the terrible) use to preach at every meal while his soldiers ate and didn’t touch his food until everyone else had finished to create loyalty in his men, he was very bright in strategy and understood everything from the necessity of expansion to how to subdue and destroy a conquer people, he turned Russia from a tiny regional power to having supremacy over all the river systems between Poland and the urals and many fortified cities everywhere guaranteeing control

Trotsky was someone who spent the entire Russian civil war moving around making speeches to energize the red army troops
Stalin was plotting all the time and calculating his rise to power through inner party (palace) politics.

This is how real monarchs act. Hands on. 18th/19th century kings were usually feeble degenerates, nothing like the warrior kings of antiquity and early medieval Europe, the men who BECAME kings and created kingdoms.

you are dumb as fuck. unless the makebelieve climate change happes, most of this land is unusable most of the year. it looks bice on the fucking map, but it's various shades of permafrost and swampy soil that turns i to quagmire half the year.

Even the mongollian lands are barely havitable. At a drop of a hat an unpredictable coldsnap can come and kill what little livestock you have.

today they account for 60-80% of combat casualties.

Sounds fake they could just issue shotguns

Shotguns are very effective against FPD tons of videos of shotgun soldiers shooting them off and not a single video of someone with a shotgun being killed by a drone. Weapons designed to shoot birds shoot drones too who could have thought.

rising standard of living is every single year in every country. 2018 Russia is more developed than 2017 Russia, so what is weird here?
Economy was growing because industrialization started happening and education was more wide because education wasn't restricted to just nobility (with some exceptions) but the merchant family could buy them too. But higher education was not provided by the state, so majority of people couldn't afford it. And literacy was at 20% I believe. He wasn't the worst tsar, but in fact his actions lead straight to bolshevik revolution.

peasants coming to cities

factory bosses exploting them hard

no 8h work day, more like 12 or even more

priest who advocates for peasants get shot down by royal guards (unclear who gave command to do it, but nicholas then took a vacation instead of apologizing which made people think it was him)

weak gun control

unnecessary war on top of it

I mean put the two and two together. you have large, armed and angry mass of people all gathering at the same place ...
Ironically during serfdom this kind of thing was impossible. But because of guns coming into Russia, collapse of serfdom was also inevitable. Also, wasn't everyone renting at the time? In 1914? because commie blocks were not invented yet so apartments were too scarce for all people moving in to the cities

Bolsheviks managed to get the same standards that was in 1914 only in sixties.

By what metric?

Bratan, you're just citing Bolshevik propaganda here. The one thing Nicolas doesn't do right is that he cannot make Russia prepared for modern society.

As for Grozny, he was like let's make all the progressive institutions in Russia, then go insane and eradicate all of that. He was great before her mind went astray and horrifying after that.

>pardons leftists who wants him dead

He didn't though. It is the exact thing that he repressed leftists while being a weak ruler when it came to reigning upper classes in that made him unpopular

look at the putlicker defending his poverty slavecountry

No that is not the case. For example I don't consider Pinochet a fascist, because his economy was libertarian. So he is just a libertarian-authoritarian
Franco was heavily influenced by fascism however and Hitler even sent troops there

You're just describing a country switching to modern society. So it was more or less everywhere.

By what metric?

By calorie and protein intake per capita, for example. Picrel.

that's the land of my ancestors though
hands off, Indo shitstain

You forgot your pic

Africans would be better off if they were ruled by Europeans

lol africa is a testament of euros ineptitude and greed

It didn't attach for some reason. Let's try again.

le nazis

jellymad butthurt thread about Russia #624452582

lets be real, OP, ur a massive faggot

umm its already happened before
there were Swedes and French and even Poles
and all they could do was nothing.
kvgyj

As for Grozny, he was like let's make all the progressive institutions in Russia, then go insane and eradicate all of that.

Seems he tried saw the results and became wiser

He didn't though. It is the exact thing that he repressed leftists while being a weak ruler when it came to reigning upper classes in that made him unpopular

Hey
He captured Stalin
And released him
...

Yes, but nicholas had the issue that his ancestors were very unwilling to reform unlike European monarchs, so a volcano was preparing to erupt under the Romanovs for 100 years if not more, but finally under Nicholas it erupted. He could have probably still stopped it but the issue of late stage Romanovs is that they are afraid of the wrong people. For example there was a Russian tsar I think Nicholas I who wanted to abolish serfdom but was afraid of nobility killing him. Even Peter the great disliked Serfdom. But instead of them being afraid that the people will kill them they are afraid that the nobility, or merchants in case of Nicholas will kill them.
And with that fear it is hard to even say that Russia was an absolute monarchy, it was closer to an oligarchy (rule of the few, the few first meaning aristocrats and later the merchants)
Although bolsheviks winning was preventable. In fact Bolsheviks were not even relevant until Okhrana gave them funding, so that is another fuckup of Nicky right there

Franco was heavily influenced by fascism

Not quite. There was a fascist party that supported him but most of his supporters weren't fascist. Not making your economy a liberal one doesn't make you a fascist. His goal was to conserve the country and get rid of commies, not building the fascist-like nation.

Hitler even sent troops there

That doesn't make you a fascist. Franco maneuvered between the Axis and the Allies all the way.

He didn't release Stalin, Provisional government did

m8 there is nothing there. Cant even use the roads in winter.

T.Had a project in the 90s to connect some of these places via VSAT links.

But your own country calls him that
rt.com/news/453945-fancisco-franco-reburial-date/

That is interesting, but you have to take into account that they had to work longer to afford it.
So did Russian Empire already have agricultural machinery in 1914 to have such a high output or did they import it?

Agriculture in the Russian Empire and the USSR is a broad topic. I'll try to tell you briefly.

The thing was that the development of agriculture was it was greatly slowed down by the obshchina. It's a type of rural community that was implemented by government in mid 19 century to prevent Russian peasants from becoming European type proletariat. Russian elite was quite socialist already at that time and was afraid of capitalism.

It turned out that was a shitty idea cause it led to slowing industrialization and other development by killing the motivation for peasants. That's why Stolypin launched reforms that freed peasants from obshchina and made county less frigid.

As for the USSR, they basically returned the serfdom when they established kolkhozes and killed the motivation even more that led to USSR buying grain. As for the machinery, it was implemented slowly in the Empire already and it wasn't the main case of problems.

So what? Politics saying political shit aren't related to real history, you know.

Weren't most field workers in the Empire employees of large landowners? I thought kulaks had employees working on their land. How did they solve the motivation problem? I don't imagine working for someone else is more motivating than working for the "collective"
Why was there such a gap between protein and wheat?

True, but your president is personally very interested in history and always talks about it so I think it is a safe assumption that your whole political elite shares that interest

Well, politic system in Russian Empire was surely tricky and it was struggling with reforms but it was exactly Nicholas II who worked hard to make things better. The main problem was, as I said, that he was unprepared for modern society.

I can tell you a lot of funny stories about Okhranka. My favorite is about Zubatovshchina. One policemen, Zubatov, asked himself a question why proles are so sensitive to socialist propaganda and figured out that was cause no one aside from socialists was working with them.

That was the thing. As for the incoming crisis, most of society was unaware that it was struggling. Peasants doesn't have socialist ideas on their own, THEY were implanted by the intelligentsia.

I can tell you a lot of funny stories about Okhranka. My favorite is about Zubatovshchina. One policemen, Zubatov, asked himself a question why proles are so sensitive to socialist propaganda and figured out that was cause no one aside from socialists was working with them.

Do you have more?

Peasants doesn't have socialist ideas on their own, THEY were implanted by the intelligentsia.

Socialist intelligentsia in Russian Empire?

Well, you should see the difference between historical myth used by politics and real history. Putin's not historian, he's politician, and most of the elites are too.

I don't really think they try to use only the real history. Most of our elites grew up under commies and they share some of ideological myths.

Maybe, but Putin is not exactly a communist and Russia is not such either

Do you have more?

A lots, though they're mostly difficult to tell without much explanations. Let me think...

There was a funny case when people made a society that was meant for helping the frontline and manufacture goods for soldiers. Actually they just used the crates with their logo to transport the goods made by others and gather funds for socialists. Okhranka revealed it only a few weeks before the February Revolution.

Actually, Okhranka was quite a weak An organization that was afraid to act, give heavy punishments, and was constantly late.

Socialist intelligentsia in Russian Empire?

Yeah. It is a myth that the proletarians made the revolution. They were used as cannon fodder. February Revolution was led by tsarist officials and the October one was led by the intelligentsia that formed armed squads of proles.

The kulaks case is about propaganda. Initially, kulaks were called village scum like thieves, drunkards, etc. Then Bolsheviks needed to find the bourgeoisie in the countryside and used this word to call just the somehow wealthy peasants.

You can find the definition of kulak used by communists in their documentation. You could be defined as one if you have even a lone churn, small place for rent or even if you're involved in the church community.

As for motivation, the peasantry just craved to own some land. That was enough to keep them motivated after the obshchina that controlled them.

As for the gap, I can't tell right away but I think it's cause the grain isn't only thing you can eat.

Yeah, they're not communists at all but they have that nostalgia for USSR and they work in a country that was highly influenced by commies. That's why they can't throw away commie shit completely even if they want.

As I see it, they're using commie narratives as disguise to strengthen the state, that's all.

Actually, Okhranka was quite a weak An organization that was afraid to act, give heavy punishments, and was constantly late.

yes and they funded bolsheviks because Lenin was constantly in fights with anarchists and SR who were seen as more dangerous

Yeah. It is a myth that the proletarians made the revolution. They were used as cannon fodder. February Revolution was led by tsarist officials and the October one was led by the intelligentsia that formed armed squads of proles.

Ok, but how did socialist intelligentsia even form in such a reactionary country?

better use

What could be better to nature than not using it?

So kulaks were not even originally defined as burgeoisie class?