What are the political implications of more and more people becoming antinatalist?
Are people finally realizing that it's immoral and wrong to consign a new sentient being into a lifetime of suffering and pain without their consent?
What are the political implications of more and more people becoming antinatalist?
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If you think reproducing is wrong then kill yourself
I think it's the way to go, fewer people means cleaner air. I support anti-natalists and childfree people in every possible way, I am sure that thanks to them it will be easier and more comfortable for my children to live in a world without other people's children.
Most successful jewish psy op
Only whites care about their impact on the environement and other beings.
The kinds of people that fall for this are the same types that took the clotshot. They're a total liability and a danger to my children. Good riddance.
a lifetime of suffering and pain
I've had a good life, and I'm giving my children a good life. If you're suffering, kill yourself.
We have billions of people right now who dont want children and are going extinct because of this. Its a self correcting system where those who want children pass on their DNA. Nature is healing so to say.
The ones who are behind the vaxx are a greater danger and they won't stop to reproduce or lose their power tomorow.
No, people are losing the ability to interact in person. It's more of a risk with women pulling all the bullshit shenanigans. Not every man has the looks to get away with being remotely flirtatious.
TLDR: men are scared to interact with women. "Men". Perhaps it was the me too psyop.
Nobody should reproduce.
kill yourself
How do you suppose I do that?
Take a knife and stab yourself in the throat
Too scary and brutal and prone to failure.
Well, hopefully those degenerates die off, so we can return to something more culturally cohesive and flourish. Then, we'll have a chapter in history of all the hedonistic anti-natalists that offed themselves for the stupidest of reasons.
"Natural selection" stopped being natural for humans the moment we self domesticated. Capitalism needs an ever-increasing population of subservient goycattle to function, if you're not one you're not encouraged to reproduce.
How do you suppose I do that?
If you can't even imagine killing yourself, then clearly you're being dishonest about your own suffering, which means you aren't a trusted source of philosophical thought in general. This goes for all anti-natalists who are not actively attempting to kill themselves.
I'll take antinatalists seriously when they aim thier message at India, Africa and China and/or start killing themselves en mass.
Otherwise they're just more crybabies trying to control how I live.
All existence is suffering.
Capitalism needs an ever-increasing population of subservient goycattle to function
It doesn't, actually, and I don't know which jew told you this or why you believed them. In fact, populations shrinking ends up having a very positive effect on capitalism because of the prosperity and new ability to enter the capitalist market it brings to entire younger, previously priced-out generations due to a sudden increase in resources. The reality is that capitalism doesn't require an ever-growing consumer segment of the population, it actually requires the occasional mass die-off of the wealth-hoarding elite to rebirth the system anew.
You have no authority to declare how anyone else views existence. Your existence may be suffering, but that's all you can know, and if your existence is suffering you need to end your existence immediately.
populations shrinking ends up having a very positive effect on capitalism
then why actual capitalists love immigration?
How do you suppose I do that?
Come to Canada
Mere ad hominem
Read any great philosophical or religious tradition.
You are clearly butthurt about this topic, which indicates a life of suffering that you run from.
I don't know why you'd call this handful of corrupt, sociopathic wealth-hoarders "actual capitalists" as opposed to the hundreds of millions of other people who operate fairly and prosperously within capitalist systems without exploiting others.
The root of your suffering appears to be an abysmally low IQ, which has led to poor life choices and nonsensical coping mechanisms. Suicide is the solution.
Oh brother
I have a very high IQ. You are clearly very offended at the mention that you are suffering and concealing it. You would do better to be truthful with yourself.
And you have no wisdom. A lifetime of experience and nothing gained -- sad
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Yids screaming about kids. At least this one isn't writing books about how its ok to molest and abuse them, as is normal for kikes. This one gets ahead of it all and prevents the children from even being fed to the kikes.
I'm only antinatalist for bug people like slavs, indians, chinese, and SEA monkeys.
hundreds of millions of other people who operate fairly and prosperously within capitalist systems without exploiting others
kek goycattle unironically believe this
this is exactly why you're encouraged to reproduce by the system defined by the actual capitalists like Bezos and Musk
now go have 10 based and redpilled trad kids while most elites only have a couple, their descendants need yours as slaves
It'll probably die out.
Why did boomers create a society that people literally cannot live in.
can you plz stop osting this faggy book all over Anon Babble? you spam Anon Babble ALL THE TIME no one wants to read that. kys already.
That's someone else, not me.
I've been told to live by "natalists" up until the point I tell them I was born autistic and my parents were too old to have me, so they used IVF and fertility drugs to receive me, at that point they instantly reverted on this and told me to kms
The evil men ITT aren't true natalists they are purely eugenicists in nature, disguised as natalists, a true natalist would never tell you to kill yourself no matter what
In fact this only self-refutes them of their natalism (more people being born) vs those who don't want others to be born in the first place
We need more niggers to increase the suffering. Death to America.
Jews are encouraging the goycattle to reproduce!
Jews ruined women with feminism and now nobody is reproducing!
which one is it, memeflaggot.
My solace is iamgining them being 80 years old in a understaffed nursing home, drooling, their diapers full of shit for hours, experiencing painful bed sores, too afraid to call the disgruntled staff (overworked and underpaid immigrants, the last youth they could muster). Their minds not entirely gone yet, so they can more or less reason and understand how their philosophy condemned them to the most painful, dragged-out and undignified slow death-in-life possible. For the next 5 to 10 years only misery awaits. All their highlights iterations of ''yay I got a retarded promotion at slopcorp 3000 I can fill even more forms now I feel so competent and important''.
This is a reality that will become increasingly common in the next 30 years.
Fuck off kike. You just want White people to stop breeding. Die in a fire.
You're not even attempting to argue now, because you know you've been defeated. You implicitly understand that the only one responsible for your continued suffering is yourself, because you refuse to end it. Antinatalism because you as an individual had a shitty life is not wisdom, least of all is it "very high IQ". It's a coping mechanism because you're too cowardly to solve your own problem; If your cowardice outweighs your suffering, I can't imagine you're being truthful about how much suffering you're actually going through.
Some people should've never been born and existed in the first place at any rate
What are the political implications of more and more people becoming antinatalist?
The enlightenment has reached its logical collusion and its death should be celebrated. No kids, no legacy. Simple as.
Even more people that have never born should have. For each ''misfit'' that should not be there one could count 10 single people who were healthy and could and should have had children. And my misfits I mean people who genuinely struggles at living, not some mild autism or moderate depression or whatever.
Capitalists pushed feminism to effectively double the workforce to further suppress wages.
An intended side effect was reduced fertility, which they use as a reason for unlimited immigration from countries like India where people are already genetically selected for subservience through centuries of the caste system.
You can reproduce to save the white race all you want, but you are only postponing the inevitable by a couple of generations at best. Your bloodline won't remain pure as long the parasites at the top exist.
I support antinatalism for others. 90% of people need to fuck off.
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Funny how all of the most rabid pro-natalists on here are always race mixers.
If modern medicine wasn't a thing you would know instantly who was meant to be here and who wasn't, it pretty much resolves itself without human intervention, for if they do intervene you do end up with people who have debilitating diseases..
Well, so they die. I don't see the issue. Other lineages will prevail then. Stop making up problems and excuses.
The sentence "If you think reproducing is wrong then kill yourself" is logically flawed and ethically problematic. Here’s a breakdown of the logical issues:
1. False Equivalence / Non Sequitur
It falsely equates opposing reproduction with a reason to end one's life, which does not logically follow.
Believing reproduction is wrong (e.g., for ethical, environmental, or philosophical reasons) does not logically require or imply that one should cease living.
2. Straw Man Fallacy
It misrepresents the position of someone who opposes reproduction. Most who hold that view (e.g., antinatalists) argue that bringing new life into the world can involve harm — they are not saying life has no value once it exists.
3. Moral Fallacy (Appeal to Extremes)
It pushes a moderate belief to an irrational extreme, suggesting that the only consistent way to oppose reproduction is through suicide — a false and harmful dichotomy.
Ethical Note:
Aside from being logically flawed, the sentence is also morally irresponsible and harmful, as it trivializes and weaponizes serious issues like suicide. Reasoned discourse should always avoid such dangerous rhetoric.
We’re running out of options, anon. You don't want to be incinerated. The gun ruined your clothing. The knife was too savage. The nerve gas smelled bad. Hanging took too long. And poison... what was wrong with poison?
So whats the big brain benefit of culling yourself from the gene pool?
The antinatalists here are most certainly not making up problems or excuses, these problems are ones that you are not addressing very well as a supposed pronatalist.
By claiming to be pronatalist you are also claiming to be able to solve this for everyone alive, since they're already born that only leaves you with the option of also being pro-technology in order to alleviate the pains of those misfortunate lives who had to be born with a debilitating illness and thus prolong their life, which is what you are for, after all. Since alot of these illnesses are incurable though you're pretty much surrendering them to pain and suffering tho. This in itself makes anti-natalists look better than you in comparison, which does not ask for people to kill themselves but rather, does not want them to be born to prevent such things like this from happening.
If people were wiser in their decisions you wouldn't have antinatalists existing.. in the first place.
Gun would be fine. I don't have access to one.
Poison would also be fine but I dont know of any poisons that would be accessible but also work well (painless + reliable). Nembutal is banned everywhere.
Blah blah blah you look worse than me
I don't need to have better or worse optics. The logical consequences of your thinking will make it dissappear. When the overburdened elders make the system unreliable and we get set back to preindustrial standarts of life people will again have children convulsively so they can help in the workplace and sustain their asses during the last years. It's not a matter of being right or not. It's that either you bring more children to the world now, or they are forcefully brought in when antinatality breaks apart society.
Nembutal is banned everywhere.
Such a shame, it really is, I would've used that myself. They really ought to make it legally OTC again like in the early pharmaceutical days.
The desire for reproduction is rooted in fear, and mortality. To an immortal like me. Having another kid is nothing but a pain in the ass.
everything everyone does has to be some 5D chess move
Race mixers, everyone.
It's not a matter of being right or not.
It surely is about being right otherwise you wouldn't be continuing this argument and besides, if the truth doesn't matter about the value of human life, then I'd rather not be discussing this with you since you're the wrong type of person to be discussing with
i have nothing to pass on
so it's not a bad ideo desu
Who says you have nothing to pass on?
He is not the one losing for not reproducing. The world is.
I just love the idea of that same primal act of sex, where I'm on top of a woman, in intense bliss, pounding relentlessly, but this time not just for pleasure, but to create an entirely new life form, my child, and using my knowledge, wealth, strength, and energy to make them into an even greater human than I ever was.
You only like it because you will die.
Even if I lived forever it would be the coolest shit ever.
No, if you live forever. Then you may have to live with someone you hate for etrrnity. That's a pathway to Hell.
I could create someone that I hate even now, what's the difference?
If he's white then ya the world loses
Filter out the weak, and let only the good live. That's Heaven to me.
I don't need someone who hate Me.
Nice argumentation. Very well laid out. Now if you think it's evil to reproduce, kill yourself, retard
So basically after acquiring all the land and power, destroying several different habitats, wiping out both indigenous people and killing off endangered species, creating plastic and having it end up in the ocean..NOW white people are realizing it all meant nothing in the first place.
The native Americans told you honkies about living in harmony with nature and now it's starting to sink in...
The white race should have never survived the bubonic plague...
What a dumb thing to say.
It's evil to hate God. Anyone who hate God should have their entire bloodlines being cleanse.
AI slop to support anti-human positions
Ironic.
I actually wouldn't mind all of the Labasland dying out, so that this stupid Litvinism and muh GDL seething ends as well. Please promote your ideas at home!
It's immoral and wrong to saddle parents with today's shit sack waste of skin offspring.