How the fuck will this ever work? Russia invaded them, the people will always hate their guts now and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
Also, should Russia get to keep its occupied land, can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency? I mean Russia will run out of soviet tanks and BMP's eventually by either time or destruction. I feel like Russia doesn't have any good options for a peace.
How will Ukrainian peace work
How the fuck will this ever work
hohols be docile or start dying again
I mean even if they have to write 'will never join NATO' into their constitution they can eventually just sign a alliance with a NATO country and be in it by proxy. Like when Orange men leave office.
ukraine already ran out of bradleys and abrams from biden
It's astonishing how westoids physically can't understand the concept of industrial production anymore
When has that ever worked out? You pay Chechens yearly to stay loyal, and those are dumb ackbars, how will you convince Ukranians to stay docile? will you pay them too? i doubt that will work since they have NATO on a direct land border that can ship weapons and trainers in whenever they want across a 1000 km border.
PISS
PISS WONT WORK AT ALL
THERES STILL BANAN IN THE BALTICS
AND IN POLAND FINLAND THE LIST GOES ON
Yeah but an insurgency doesn't need bradleys, look at the ackbars in the middle east they blow up tanks and ACP's with rocket launchers and suicide trucks.
what do you mean?
Why Russia would ever want peace? How war affects russian's elites? They are still in power and make profit from war, so why they want to stop it?
just sign a alliance with a NATO country and be in it by proxy
They've already done that, with multiple countries. Doesn't seem to be working out for them very well
russians have mongoloid faces
how will you convince Ukranians to stay docile
I don’t need to convince ukrainians, they can either accept being docile or keep dying
Who are they allied with?
Even if they dont sign alliances, NATO can re-arm them over a decade and flood them with african immigrants to repopulate them, I dont see how Russia can re-arm their soviet stockpiles so any round 2 will have Russia in a worse place than they started out in in 2022.
Thats retarded because you'll keep dying too.
It will also be a constant monetary drain on the state meaning higher taxes or less public spending.
Ukrainian territory is bad for insurgency.
TELL IT TO CIA
ukraine drags people off the streets, been doing so since 2022
Russia had one draft in 2022 and then its volunteers only
guess who *needs* to stop dying
yeah, flat farmlands arn't the jungles of myanmar or the mountains of afghanistan, but you can still have an insurgency, specially one being constantly fed by NATO across the border and with likely access to NATO intelligence on Russian troop movements.
Plus, lets be honest, your going to be brutal on any crackdowns so they will have a constant source of radicalised holhols ready to die to kill you forever.
Well it won't. That's the truth that Russiaboos refuse to acknowledge, just as the US eventually had to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan so will the Russian Federation have to withdraw from Ukraine. The proliferation of weapons on an industrial scale has made it basically impossible to keep hold of a land with a hostile population forever. Even more so now that any rube can just strap a bomb to a drone and fly it into the nearest valuable object. What are they going to put cope cages and jammers on every train, airplane, automobile, all infrastructure and every important person in their country. Russia fucked up and just needs to acknowledge it.
Volunteers who sign up for rear duty and then are forced into the infantry, that's no different than what Ukraine is doing.
gorilla warfare
with what manpower? whomever wanted to volunteer for ukraine had already done so way back in 2022, they are forced to rely on press gangs now. cant quite press people into serving ukraine when you’re in Russia
You have 3x the men and used prisoners for 2 years until they rebelled. so yeah im not surprised its mostly volunteers besides the one draft
But your men are still dying anon, in great numbers, just like the ukranians are also dying in great numbers.
When the war ends and you still control the land thats millions of Ukranians that can be radiclaised with propaganda, personal vendetta's from the war and any reprisal crackdowns by Security forces, and you will inevitably take casulties.
Nigger you are the one dying in much greater numbers than they are. Are you retarded? If Ukraine is beaten and needs some stitches, Russia is on life support.
the people will always hate their guts
Russians will hate the Russians who liberated them from jewish degeneracy
fuck you shlomo, eat my excrement
there isnt any insurgency in russian-occupied ukraine and the russians are torturing, raping, jailing, oppressing and humiliating ukrainians in those territories everyday
Putin has to live the rest of his life inside a nuclear bunker if he wants to be safe.
Volunteers who sign up for rear duty and then are forced into the infantry
that's no different
than what Ukraine is doing
are you even sentient
Ukranians are different from Russians like you are different from the Spanish.
No, there is, not in any great numbers mind you but railways are getting bombed I've seen videos and information on troop movements and positions are almost certainly being reported to Ukranians intelligence.
who *needs* to stop dying
The one who is being replaced at lightspeed?
THE WAR IS STILL ON
3 DAY SMO A GORILLION DEAD VDV AND COUNTING
INSURGENCY IS FOR AFTER
TO REALLY STICK IT TO EM
forced to fight
forced to fight
Where's the difference? Why do you think there's so many videos of Russians blowing their brains out.
Explain this image
But your men are still dying anon, in great numbers
put a number on it
When the war ends and you still control the land thats millions of Ukranians that can be radiclaised with propaganda
that was already the case with Crimea, 10 years of nothing
also L/DPR in pre war borders, nothing
going for desert here: LPR was retaken swiftly in 2022, almost all of it. any large scale insurgencies there?
If Ukraine is beaten and needs some stitches, Russia is on life support
why negotiate for Ukraine now then?
Ukraine won't be allowed to have a military that can threaten any of its neighbors including Moldova (demilitarization).
Neutrality must be stipulated in the Ukrainian constitution along with no NATO adhesion.
Denazification means they will never have a political class that can remove neutrality from constitution and join NATO or attack Russia.
I can not thank Putin enough for the SMO: instead of importing churkas like he usually does, for once, he imported Russians
sign up
get bussified
As any piece of art, it will relate different things to different people. It's all in the eye of the beholder.
There is no chance that they will be able to wage effective warfare on such territory in modern days. And we are pretty good at anti-insurgency actions.
sign up
For what? To be a security guard at a nuclear facility and all of the sudden you're blowing your brains out as Ukrainians laugh at you.
face from ukrainian propaganda video (the liberator), manul body hanging from the pylon for FAB500 (instead of FAB obv)
It's been 3 fucking years of a 2 week military exercise. We can turn Ukraine into a no mans land for the next 15 years just turn it into a slaughter field and we can run incursions into Russia with the excuse of those who attack can be attacked. By attacking Ukraine you make your country a target. Blow up your fucking pipe lines, your oil refineraries everything. You think you can attack for-ever without being attacked back? We can drain your resources, your manpower, your weapons supplies and we can do that for as long as you want to play these fucking gay ass games
To be a security guard at a nuclear facility
you sign the contract to go to fight in ukraine
There was an insurgency, a Russian one, and it sparked a civil war that continued until 2022.
If you think that the Ukrainians wont do the exact same thing now that you occupy land thats actually majority Ukranians then your lying to yourself.
put a number on it
I can't, and neither can anyone else because everyone is lying, but I can see on the ground that you arn't making any progress, if your casulties were low and ukranians were higher then you'd have the manpower and equipment needed to take vast swathes of territory from the already smaller and less well equiped Ukranians, the fact the fighting is over small regional towns now instead of oblasts tells me that the power disparity, and therfore, the losses, is more equal than it should be.
Adopt "Neutral" status
Still heavily integrate towards EU and NATO
Russia gets distracted in some bullshit internal fight or Putin ACKs!
Quickly integrate into NATO while Russia is distracted.
Pretty much what Finland and Sweden did, damn you niggers cant think long-term.
The Russian insurgency in Donbas did it, and no, you are not very good at anti-insurgency actions as seen by the Chechen wars.
hostile population
vote 92% to join Russia
You nafo troons have not been doing well today
We can turn Ukraine into a no mans land for the next 15 years just turn it into a slaughter field and we can run incursions into Russia with the excuse of those who attack can be attacked
that’s already happened, so
By attacking Ukraine you make your country a target
oh no
Blow up your fucking pipe lines, your oil refineraries everything
you already do that. in fact, seems your peak was NS2
You think you can attack for-ever without being attacked back? We can drain your resources, your manpower, your weapons supplies and we can do that for as long as you want to play these fucking gay ass games
okay, so, keep doing what you’re doing? i already knew that
Do they though?
vote 92% to join Russia
You're completely retarded if you believe that.
usa lost against afghanistan, an extremely primitive country, and you think yall can take on russia
clown
I doubt that Russia will dissolve but yeah, Russia invading Ukraine is a permanent part of their history now, it will never be forgotten so I can see one day when Russia falls into crisis they will take advantage of the opportunity due to anti-russian sentiment being worse than in Poland.
If you think that the Ukrainians wont do the exact same thing now that you occupy land
8 years have passed and nothing of the sort happened. except now ukraine has less people
I can’t
take a guess
usa lost against afghanistan
So did Russia.
places where no Ukrainians exist (ie former Ukraine): peace
places where Ukrainians exist: terror attacks to get back at westerners not supporting Ukraine enough
yes
92% is obviously falsified north korean tier shit, it isn't meant to be actully believed by anyone.
it won't just like it didn't after minsk agreements, they'll just shoot one another on a lesser scale
russian racial nature will never change, they will try to invade europe as long as they exist because that's what steppeniggers do, always have and always will
There were international observers there in 2014, faggot, zero evidence of fraud. But you cocksuckers pretend history can be rewritten.
no it didnt, the ussr did
Are you retarded or just 12? This was over as soon as the Russians showed up. The regions under their control consider themselves ethnically Russian. Nobody is going to invade Russia, Putin is probably mad enough to use his big guns as a deterrent, it worked for 50 years before and after all the rhetoric Russia claims a bit more of the map.
Why won't ukraine just infiltrate into russia behind lines and just conduct terrorism to the Russian population? It's a great demoralizing tactic. They have nothing to lose anyways
permanent insurgency
There's a super simple solution to that and its called "ethnic cleansing".
Are you sure about that? Not even Army recruiters in the US are honest when they get you to sign up for the army and they're just chasing completely arbitrary quotas while in Russia it's closely related to the casualties you're taking.
international observers
Who?
what would be the point? russian elites care about russian lives even less than i do while russians are docile cattle so terrorism has no effect on them at all
8 years have passed
those 8 years the insurgency was on your side because it was ethnically Russian, now you will get an ethnically Ukranians insurgency armed by NATO and Ukraine.
Take a Guess
I'd say 500,000 KIA/WIA/MIA Russians and 300,000 - 350,000 KIA/WIA/MIA Ukranians
I say this based on the fact that Ukraine has been on the defensive most of the war and therfore for a fight to break out Russia must close the gap in any engagement and ceed firing initiative to Ukraine, also Priggy said that Wanger had 60,000 casulties in Bakhmut alone so based off the length of the conflict I extrapolate Russian casualties off that.
Ukraine also take most of their casulties from the massive difference in Russian artillery advantage backed by drone recon or in the tight urban fights like in Bakhmut where casulties drop to 1-1 as the distance Russian troops had to cover to reach a point they could fight back lowered significantly in close urban fighting.
So show us where international observers found any fraud, tranny faggot shill.
The east was the money makers for the country and they lived in poverty shitty government services. Everyone in Kiev was driving a Range Rover and partying at the disco everynight.
It was an easy vote to win.
why do you keep asking more questions to a definitive answer? you’re creating ambiguity where none exists
Just kill all hyhyls
Agent Z (jewlynsky) will provide that withhands of agent S (sneedsky)
Germans, for one, faggot
Invaded for a good reason, idiot
Donbass' victims remember
Your unwarranted trust in the system is not a reflection of reality.
Like who? There's tens of millions of us, some of whom I definitely wouldn't trust.
Well they could target russian elites then.
There were no international observers, they invited a bunch of communists from the west to look and called them internatonal observers
Russia invaded them, the people will always hate their guts now and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
Are you retarded? Russia invaded like 90% of the territory that it currently occupies. Russia is one of the most multicultural countries in the world because of those invasions. Chechens, Tatars, Dagistanis, and all those smaller indigenous groups. Do you really think Ukrainians are any different? The next generation will forget about it and move on with their lives.
insurgency
I think most of the Russia haters who live in the conquered territories probably left for parts of unoccupied Ukraine. Most of the people still living there either support Russia or don’t really care.
now you will get an ethnically Ukranians insurgency
I specifically addressed that possibility in LPR case, 3 years on. now compare it to say Belarus in 1943
0.5mil
good thing we’ve rescued some 7 million Russians from ukraine then
the point about Wagner is like to address separately
60k
didn’t you say they were prisoner recruits? well, im not shedding tears for dead criminals
Well yes, since Ukraine is right there on a direct land border with the occupied territories and can be armed and supplied with intel by NATO since a 1000km border will be impossible to fully control with an active insurgency and hostile nation on the other side of it.
The chechens were surrounded on all sides by Russia and isolated, same as the tartars and Dagistanis
Its completely different, are you genuenly retarded?
You are a lying cocksucking tranny faggot shill.
Your unwarranted trust in the system is not a reflection of reality
the irony
People will always hate Nato for pushing ukraine into demographic collapse with that puppet zelesnki, the next decades usa, french and uk companies will steal all natural resources of western ukraine.
Amazing how these discord troons all repeat the same lies
You see seperatists who have been bombed for 10 years all secretly yearn to be governed by Zelensky..
Your own source says a 'no' option is was not on most ballots
your source also doesn't saw what those 'international observers' are, which if you did any research you'd find they are a variaty of pro-russian groups in the west and unironic communists with a boner for Russia because le Soviet Union.
The chechens were surrounded on all sides by Russia
Chechnya was being supplied by sandniggers via Georgia. Learn how to read a map. Ukrainians will stop caring after a decade or two of peace. People move on from these things. At worst they will become indistinguishable from the rest of the butthurt belters with their all bark no bite mentality.
Ok nigger now atack yemen.... Oh you cant???
You have to be genuinely retarded, you realise Russia got most of the majority Russian speaking land in 2014? Ukranians were then pushed out into ukraine and replaced to solidify the dominance, now russia has occupied like 10% more that entirely populated by Ukranians.
Where have I shown anything but distrust of the system? Pretending that your opponent in argument fits some stereotype you thought up is not healthy. It just leads to delusion.
Pretending that your opponent in argument fits some stereotype you thought up is not healthy
gunning for a hat-trick?
Nigger, are you stupid? sandniggers flooded Chechnya with weapons through a majority Christian and pro-Russian nation like Georgia (before the invasion)?
Also, Chechnya won the first war, so I don't even know what kind of point your making
Chechens moved on because Russia has been paying them billions every year to not rebel again, they literally get paid tax money from the rest of Russia. I dont think Russia will do the same for millions more.
You have clearly demonstrated an unquestioning trust in the system.
Nigger, are you stupid? sandniggers flooded Chechnya with weapons through a majority Christian and pro-Russian nation like Georgia (before the invasion)?
you need to start lurking holy shit
start by reading up on Pankis valley
Shit im looking at google maps now and there isn't a single road going from Georgia to Chechnya, I doubt they smuggled more than a couple crates of rifles over a literal mountain range.
You are a faggot paid to come here and lie. No matter what proof I post you will just keep lying?
So why do they live in peace with Russia
Why dont they have to drag people off to war like Kiev does?
Why were they instantly able to raise an army?
You faggots make zero sense
how?
sandniggers flooded Chechnya with weapons through a majority Christian and pro-Russian nation like Georgia (before the invasion)?
Yes. Georgia was anti-Russian long before the 2008 invasion. Also their government is highly corrupt.
Also, Chechnya won the first war, so I don't even know what kind of point your making
If they had won, then all of Southern Russia would be under their control today.
Chechens moved on because Russia has been paying them billions every year to not rebel again, they literally get paid tax money from the rest of Russia. I dont think Russia will do the same for millions more.
You really think Russians aren't making that money back and more with their oil reserves? Imagine being this stupid.
you can’t be for real, this has to be bait
Pankis valley
Thats kilometers inland from the actual border
They'd have to pass over this mountain range or sneak 100's of km through russian territory and then pass through the actual siege lines to supply the Chechens.
In believing that Russians are not coerced or forced to fight and that it's completely voluntary, as though recruiters don't have every interest to lie to get people to sign up and as though there haven't been plenty of cases of people being transferred from decidedly non-combat roles to the infantry.
You think a bunch of sandnigger hiked crates of weapons through 20km of mountain range in any amount to make an actual difference?
you keep on lurking
Russia invaded them, the people will always hate their guts now and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
so by your logic
poland still should be hating hohols
but they don't and in fact they are their major supporters
gernany should be hated by the rest of europe but nope we are EU now and most of us like germany
japan should be hating mutts
but nope they love em
so what so different about the hohols that will make them seethe at russia forever?
the only nation who has eternal seethe i know of is a kikes and their hate for Christ xD
So why do they live in peace with Russia
They don't there are regular train track bombing and sabotage done
also, how much sabotage did the french do when the germans occupied them in ww1? not much because there are hundreds of thousnads of troops there, when they leave for peacetime the sudden drawdown of men will leave gaping security holes
Why dont they have to drag people off to war like Kiev does?
Because Russia knows that recruiting Ukranians is the best way to have their army sabotaged from the inside?
Why were they instantly able to raise an army?
What army? there is no newly raised army from the newly occupied ukranian territories, unless you mean the former LDPR/DPR rebel army that was rotated from the frontlines after the Kharkiv loss. in which case they were heavily supplimented by Russian soldiers in plaincloths or do yuo thunk they found t-72's lying about.
In believing that Russians are not coerced or forced to fight and that it's completely voluntary
why would I need the system to tell me what I already know by reading about them, talking to them and living with them?
poland still should be hating hohols
Why?
gernany should be hated by the rest of europe
They would if they never paid for their crimes with decades of occupation and reparations and apologies, Japan never was occupied for long and payed fuck all and never apologised and most of asia hates them.
Ethnic hatred in Europe stopped largely because our borders were drawn largely along ethnic lines after WW1 and WW2. +- some regions with minorities from a neighbouring country. One huge exception being the Balkans and you know the rest.
Exactly as retarded as leftists who think they know niggers because they know a couple.
Pretending that your opponent in argument fits some stereotype you thought up is not healthy. It just leads to delusion.
hay-trick it is
why negotiate for Ukraine now then?
To make you look like the warmongers, which you are. Is it really that hard to understand?
The alternative is forever wars. We already tried that.
Again, you're demonstrating exactly what I'm accusing you of.
>poland still should be hating hohols
Why?
back to the point
so what so different about the hohols that will make them seethe at russia forever?
the only nation who has eternal seethe i know of is a kikes and their hate for Christ xD
To make you look like the warmongers
how’s that gonna help? ukraine needs bodies and armaments, not PR service
Pretending that your opponent in argument fits some stereotype you thought up is not healthy. It just leads to delusion
Exactly as retarded as leftists who think they know niggers because they know a couple
bordering russia is forever wars because they're a horde
have russoids not murdered poles?
massacre by a random insurgency
Ukraine apologised and both states forgave each other
If you think its anything like a full scale invasion, then territory annexation that will always be seen in their history textbooks you might be retarded.
russian elites are interchangeable, they already push one another out of windows and noone bats an eye. life is worthless in russiam, russians are worthless regardless of wealth and power
You accused me of trusting the system, despite me giving no indication thereof. Quite the opposite. I'm accusing you of being naive about the realities of war, relying on anecdote, as you yourself have stated.
relying on anecdote
which sources of information do you base your assertions on?
How the fuck will this ever work?
All belligerent hohols being killed or managing to escape to the West.
Russia invaded them
Only 8 years too late.
the people will always hate their guts now
Let's review a few historical examples. Aboriginal Australians got invaded by Brits but you're on good terms with them now. What's that? You're not an abo? Well maybe we should use Australian-British experience as a reference and just cull the remaining Ukrainian abos and put what's left into reservations or something.
Ukrainian SSR got invaded by Germany. Nowadays quite a few Ukrainians suck up to Germany, not a century later.
Vietnam got invaded by Americans some 60ish years ago. They're on good terms now though.
And so on.
the people will always hate their guts now
No. Because border control and COIN exist. It can however do this on territories Russia does not control yet and encourage them to stir shit for media coverage (i.e. what they've been doing since 2014) which is why Ukraine's continued existence is not within Russia's interest.
start a permanent insurgency?
Hyhyls aren't Taliban, pretty much anyone who would want to take up arms already has. The rest just want to be left alone. See also: daily busification videos. This morning they chased a man up a tree, he had to be "rescued" by firefighters and then subsequently beaten up and busified.
I mean Russia will run out of soviet tanks and BMP's eventually
It is possible.
Thankfully, it can produce more and has been doing that a lot more lately.
I feel like Russia doesn't have any good options for a peace.
Any peace talks right now are play pretend, Ukraine needs to be bled until it cracks or until its citizens are fed up to the point they remember the concept of "maidan" without the West's assistance.
Not personal anecdotes, that's for sure. Do you ever go out of your way to to challenge your beliefs?
not
what are they, don’t be coy
Common sense. And obviously I specifically meant personal anecdotes, with your low IQ I probably should have specified that.
common sense
so none, or, less diplomatic, your ass
Do you think that Army recruiters would suddenly be more honest in times of war when you're losing tens of thousands of men every month?
suddenly be more honest in times of war
it says “Special military operation” on any and every recruitment pice of advertising material
it's just a random massacre bruh there is no need to apologize for it
if they did so you might as well posting that apologize itt so poles could stop asking for one
also japan is till occupied by mutts and they love it
And what, do they tell them "Yeah there's a decent chance you're going to get fucked" or do they tell them that it'll be fine, they'll stay in the rear, easy money in a few months time.
hohols be docile
they won't
or start dying again
they will
How the fuck will this ever work?
it won't
mr straw man, just look how far you’ve strayed from your initial argument of equating forced conscription to volunteering to equating embellishing the recruits future to bussification
let me ask you this: if common sense exists, do you think than an average recruit is able to adequately comprehend the danger he’s in? let me go a step further and touch on your blind belief in the system and how it conflicts with your “common sense”: so if Russia suffers catastrophic losses on the frontline, don’t you think that the word of mouth would eventually get out and the stream of volunteers just dries up, which is clearly not the case? no doubt you have a source on tens of thousands men lost every month, which would surely dissuade any willing recruit from signing up. now, knowing that volunteers are still aplenty, and assuming that your losses figures are true, the 2 and 2 just doesn’t add up, there’s a lie here somewhere. ill let you decide which one is
please God make it true
they can eventually just sign a alliance with a NATO country and be in it by proxy.
So they can attack Russia for America but get no Article 5 protection ?
They don't need to sign anything for that, they are having that exactly for 3 years.
Kek
They inform every recruit that there's a 97.5% probability that during the first term of the contract they will be blown up by a suicide drone with the footage uploaded to a Laotian carpentry forum for mtf transgenders to touch themselves to. Up to 99.98% by the end of 2nd term.
Source: same as yours. Such pathetic bickering, get your t levels checked, eurocuckold.
Not that it matters since Ruzzia is a dystopian hellhole so by definition a man volunteering to serve his country (and swearing an oath to defend it with his life) cannot be any more democratic than any method of "recruitment" that the free and dignified Ukraine, a paragon of western liberal values, employs.
just as the US eventually had to withdraw from Iraq and Afghanistan so will the Russian Federation have to withdraw from Ukraine.
This is because the US still want to be able to say they are the good guys. Holding land is easy if you don't care about the people living there and are okay with killing everyone, you just need to outrange the civilians and have enough bullets for everyone.
And we are pretty good at anti-insurgency actions.
Then wtf was Crocus City Hall about?
As a pole i hate hyhyls
free and dignified Ukraine
So the men are free to leave ukraine now?
I missed that decree by thier dictator, can you source?
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Go back pigger
nice towers you got there
too bad they got shot down and now you have PATRIOT act and other privacy violations
if common sense exists, do you think than an average recruit is able to adequately comprehend the danger he’s in?
No, most people lack common sense.
so if Russia suffers catastrophic losses on the frontline, don’t you think that the word of mouth would eventually get out and the stream of volunteers just dries up
Why would it? There's a sucker born every minute. Which roughly lines up to the number of people the Russian army is recruiting every month but the Russian army isn't growing to an immense size, despite recruiting tens of thousands, they still struggle to accumulate a force large enough to do much of anything.
You're really not very bright are you?
The US doesn't care about peoples opinions.
my man from Birmingham
it’s just common sense
>if common sense exists, do you think than an average recruit is able to adequately comprehend the danger he’s in?
No
im done, take your W
How will Ukrainian peace wor
it doesnt have to, russia can do this forever
How the fuck will this ever work?
if the jews were destroyed utterly and to the last, that might work
Russia invaded them
oversimplification - this could have been avoided but chasing out Viktor Yanukovych from his presidency in ukraine via a deep state/cia coup more or less destined for this to happen.
the people will always hate their guts now and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
the people can go about their lives and stop caring about ivan, or they can let the jews whip them up into a brother war/jewish harvest.
Also, should Russia get to keep its occupied land
russia will keep land belonging to the russian federation
can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency?
most of the places russia has taken are russian speaking areas.
I mean Russia will run out of soviet tanks and BMP's eventually by either time or destruction.
probably not
I feel like Russia doesn't have any good options for a peace.
it doesnt need peace.
Don't avoid the question dumbass, you are the one making the claim that Russian anti-terrorism efforts are so advanced that a Ukrainian terror campaign on Russian soil after the war is impossible
Russia Ukraine negotiations.
come up with the captions yourself
Ukrainian men arent even free to walk the streets, troon shill.
EVERYONE RUN A VAN IS COMING!
whole tg channels dedicated to avoiding said vans
I wonder if corner niggers slinging dope are using tg for the same purpose
no need to whistle now
This is forever war that will never end.
To the last pidor suicide.
hey
100pbtid thread
chop chop
To the last pidor suicide.
you realize you will run out of men soon.
that was happening before the war.
now you have jews running an empty country.
you know if you destroyed all the jews all this would end. instead you elect them.
the jews love brother wars, its a jewish harvest.
Hey, discord tranny shilling in every pidor related thread. How very surprising.
Going to call your tranny backup to seethe at me here? Do you already have internet after shutdowns, or you will keep pretending that nothing happened?
Russia invaded them, the people will always hate their guts now
Like the Japanese hate Americans so much... Oh, they don't. That's not how it works actually.
and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
It depends on what kind of influence Russia will have in Ukraine as a result.
Also, should Russia get to keep its occupied land, can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency?
USA is leaving the conflict obviously and Europe is struggling with making enough weaponry. Moreover, Ukrainian ability to fight depends not only on the weapon.
I mean Russia will run out of soviet tanks and BMP's eventually by either time or destruction.
Bratan, do you know that there are such things as factories that can make new tanks?
I feel like Russia doesn't have any good options for a peace.
The thing is, time is on Russian side. More time flies, the more profitable the peace deal will be to Russia.
nice take off, keep em coming
I accept your concessions, pidor. 999 drones intercepted, right?
Do you not talk to people or something? The average person doesn't know anything about anything. Would the average Russian even have any idea what kind of equipment losses the Russian army has suffered? Generally speaking, your average soldiers is also a little dumber than your average person. It's not people with stable jobs and diplomas signing up for the Russian army by the tens of thousands.
If you're so sure of yourself, go to a recruitment office. Play as stupid as the average person is, see what they tell you about the service. You of course don't have to sign anything. Just see how rosy of a picture they paint you and if that sounds good to you, might as well convince all your friends to sign up together with you.
no related
ouch, Roy out of gas already?
37 ptid
seething
Ok, pidor.
Oh absolutely. They're also entitled to 200,000 hryvnas a month to woo vapid whores who will then spend these blood money (terms and conditions apply, must have survived long enough for the first check to clear) on inflating their lips to proportions that would make Bogdanoffs blush and squirm.
The only catch is, they must first turn themselves in and survive a year in the Ukrainian army, wherein MoD has all the reasons to send them on the most suicidal missions possible so as not to waste the budget on the benefits offered — not like anyone would be signing up for a second term.
It is recommended that the spare change the eventual survivors (statistically someone is bound to eventually make it through the gauntlet) retain at the end of their contract is subsequently spent on McDonalds and Robucks.
Дa пoлиcтaл вeткy oбcyждeний, пocмoтpeл нa этo виляниe шницeльeжyйcкoй жoпы "a вдpyг дядя в coвpёт и вмecтo ЧOПa oтпpaвят в Чacoв Яp?! A мнe кaжeтcя, чтo coвpёт! Я нe знaю и вooбщe пpo Poccию cлышaл тoлькo пo тeлeвизopy, нo ты cхoди пpoвepь!" и "Лyчшe бы кaк в нeзaлэжнoй пo yлицaм oтлaвливaли бы, вoт этo я пoнимaю cвoбoднaя cтpaнa" — и пpям тoжe зaхoтeлocь пoyчacтвoвaть в диcкyccии c тaким oбpaзцoвым эypoгpaждaнинoм, или ктo oнo пo пacпopтy. He иcключeнo, чтo eгo peзoннeйшими дoвoдaми и бeзyпpeчнoй apгyмeнтaциeй oн eщё нac вceх пepeyбeдит.
Do you not to people or something?
funny, we just covered that, but you’ve dismissed that as anecdote no need to throw safe rolls any further
Do you think that was a serious question?
Do you not talk to people or something?
I know more from Europe than you do from Russia
That's just hilarious.
the only thing serious in this dialogue is your very obvious anal cramps from talking to a russian online
г’yccкийc б’гocaй штык в зeмлю, кoммиaг’ тeбe лжeт!
How will peace work
It won't.
THD
I'm insulting in a roundabout way, stating that the only possible explanation for such a retarded opinion being that he doesn't talk to people.
I already gave you a possible free goal, all you'd have to do is go to a recruitment center and talk to a recruiter as though you were a random rube. Report back to us.
they murdered chechens to stay loyal
and now chechens are murdering ukranny
notice a pattern?
Here we go, more discord trannies as a backup.
don’t you feel any embarrassment typing this
It won’t. A temporary treaty that includes redrawn borders and constitutions is all that’s possible.
can be radiclaised
can
lmao you have no clue you news addicted nigger
lmao wanna see some ukranny melty pigdor
I already see you discord tranny melty here, pidor.
39 ptid seething pidor had to call his tranny backup.
lmao he’s solely replying and humiliating your 30pbtid xisters pigor
unlike you who’s just a seething hrübrid
lmao
lmao
lmao
Yeah, you need to write it few more times to show how not butthurt you are at all, discord tranny pidor
piggy please
youtu.be
You are brown.
you think there arent videos of ukrainians being killed or something?
theync.com
I think you are brown. Not beige.
are you able bodied?
Anon, you don't even have tanks anymore.
and now chechens are murdering ukranny
checkens are barrier troops, so they have probably killed 10 russians for every ukrainian they have seen through camera.
why arent you at the front?
lmao does it hrüt you piggly
ukranny will lose
you will be storming riga in a couple of years
and you will be happy
lmaooooooooooo
There are. The problem is there are 100x more videos of Russian soldiers dying. Why does the number of disabled Russian men aged 27-50 rise by over 500 000 every year? Where is thr original over 200 000 invasion force? Russia has mobilized nearly 500 000 soldiers in 2 big mobilizations and also claims to mobilize 30 000 Russian men every month. Russia also claims they have a force of 600 000 soldiers in Ukraine. Where are the rest of them and why is Ukrainian soil so fertile?
does it hrüt
Why are you shaking, pidor? Relax.
(You)
scramble for a few good wembs from hyhyl tg
Me
watch a giant 6 hours slop of uncut hohol graveyard footage
youtube.com
we’re not the same
Russia has mobilized nearly 500 000 soldiers in 2 big mobilizations
Damn I must've missed the second one! Why did no one tell me?
Kind of like when your country ran out of graveyard space 1 year in and is bulldozing graveyards because Russian deaths never happened, right?
there are 100x more videos of Russian soldiers dying
Funny how you picked this one and not the other ones, anon. Are you scared? They are already raiding Moscow fitness centrers and they even raided the Moscow Economic University.
тaк ты eблaн yвeдoмлeния нa мoбилкe c гocycлyг нeбocь зaблoчил, хep тeбя знaeт
Someday you will learn the difference between military conscription and mobilization.
Are you scared?
of a draft? haha no
mind blowing how many russians aren’t, +7 represent
not the other ones
You mean like Russia running out of space for graveyards? News to me, most of the territories west of Moscow are one huge graveyard, of people who tried to invade Russia and failed.
Are you scared?
Literally shook rn.
They are already raiding Moscow fitness centrers and they even raided the Moscow Economic University.
Holy shit lmfao. That's a perefors if I ever saw one.
Ok I confess, I don't have the app. Only access it via desktop, every few months to check if I have any taxes or speeding tickets pending. My summons to Bakhmut must've gotten lost among the notifications there.
I always find it funny when vpn 'americans' say that Russia's neighbors should stop worrying about Russia. Imagine if a European starts telling us to stop worrying about Mexico lol
You worry about Mexico?
hrülarious pigor
0 self awareness
but this is expected while hogving a melty
lmao
Yes, why wouldn't we care about our neighbors and the crime they bring
Do you worry about Canada as well?
nafoids mind melted
lmao
They don't do shit except whine so not really
How the fuck will this ever work?
How does peace work with ANY country thats been at war, you dolt?
Why wouldn't you care about your neighbors and the illegal Kinder Surprise eggs they bring?
I didn't know that State Duma Deputy Chair was a le cringe twitter dog. The Russian government should purge her like the rest of the offficials that had an IQ above the room temperature in Moscow during a blackout.
Exquisite cope. What a shame that you simply deflect everytime you are met with reality.
JUST STOP FUNDING UKRAINE AND LET SEE WHAT HAPPENS
FOR THE LULZ
FUCKING KEK
Every time I head outside I remain alert at all times, keeping a lookout, and walking at a brisk pace, taking care to avoid meeting with reality.
No wait, that's Ukrainians avoiding pig-wrangler squads.
dont forget the "russians blow their brains out... here are webms" forced faggotry
They can always do that if they lose or get abandoned. If nobody backs them then they can go warcrime mode since there's nothing that gonna stop them from doing it
Why do you think death is still a threat after figthing a 4 year long war?
Your inability to comprehend what constitution and martial law is doesn't phase me. It just makes you brown. Or Russian. Same thing when you look at the country stats. You guys even have pedophilic sharia laws in your constitution.
Russians blow their brains out on daily basis. Russian men are more suicidal than US veterans. This is just a footage of Russian males in their natural habitat.
why do euros and americans think sanctions are still a threat
nigger. you know nothing about the history of that region or that conflict.
it is too complicated for you stupid little kangaroo brain.
Kek always some German flag having a melty in these threads, brown country
Russia is literally killing 20x time more of you mognoloid orcs. While you brag about one drone video Russians are dropping videos of killing 100+ of brown mongrels baked to a crisp at once. I know what ukromongols self-concience is not their strongest trait but even for a racial subhuman like you should be some limits.
*smacks lips*
Um, akshuly, sweatie, officers and members of TTsK have no right to detain or move reservists, so everything I've posted so far has akshuly been AI and Mosfilm propaganda.
Because they are. You think that Russia being in recession and Russians being poorer than 20 years ago came just like that?
Lol. . . don't take bribes from faggots next time, stupid. It's not like John McCain needed the money.
can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency?
out of all hopiums this one was always the funniest, Western media even ran stories about “Ukrainian partisans” for a few months early in the war and then they just died down cause there was obviously zero partisan activity
nigger no one will die for fucking Ukraine to return, Russians built more infrastructure in Mariupol in wartime in 2 years than Cuckraine built in the whole country since 1991
Nice bait. Fun fact, there nearly 10k Russians dying on camera every month. Russians are lucky to get 10% of that. But hey, maybe that is why Rosstat classified the life expectancy number, after it dropped by 7 months in a single year. Don't worry about having children, Russia has the worst birthrate in the last 200 years. Classified as well. Number of cripples? Classified. Inflation? Changed so it is 10 percentage points lower.
Ha, now they cannot say that our bussinesses are bankrupting left and right. Don't mention the 21% intetest rate please
Putin made 3 major mistakes
1.He invaded Ukraine
2.He didn't get the fuck out of Ukraine as soon as possible after thr initial fuck up
3. He wrote Kherson into their constitution. A city that Russia has no military prospects of capturing in the next 50 years.
youre mentally ill faggot, stop shitting up the board with your butthurt seethe
Also, should Russia get to keep its occupied land, can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency?
The areas that Russia is seeking are areas where Russians are the majority population. The so-called Russian-speaking part of Ukraine.
Most of the Ukrainians who are totally anti-Russian are in the western part of Ukraine.
Also, should Russia get to keep its occupied land, can't NATO just flood it with weapons and start a permanent insurgency?
The problem is not military equipment but people. Will the west send its sons to die in Ukraine... NO, it won't
the people will always hate their guts now and any 'neutral' label wont be worth the paper its written on.
Russia will control the level of Ukraine's combat forces. The moment tanks start moving from the west into Ukraine again, missiles will start flying from Russia into Ukraine again.
I feel like Russia doesn't have any good options for a peace.
There are no good options for Ukraine and the EU. They have painted themselves into a corner.
waaaah don't tell me the truth waaaah
t. Gypsy from Ústí
probably not, these people are mentally challenged, many of them seriously believe this drivel
it’s a common disorder in butthurt belt, they have an uncanny ability to believe 5 contradictory things at the same time
Ukrainian Army are elite supersoldiers that dominate Russians
it’s embarassing that Russians aren’t overrunning Ukraine in 2 picoseconds
Ukrainian morale is sky high, Russians are demoralised
it’s good Ukraine has banned men from leaving, and is building a wall on western border to stop them, everyone must serve
Ukrainian Army has 1+ million men in active service
Ukrainian Army has few losses
Ukraine having to mobilise unwilling people is normal thing
Russian Army uses meatwaves and outnumbers Ukrainians everywhere
Russian Army is smaller and weaker than ever
we know these are North Koreans, Russians never advance like that, in line formations and in big numbers!
every single one of them will tell you all these statements are true, even tho they contradict each other
Who are you even trying to convince with this? Retarded jeet lurkers are already on Russian side anyways. All shitskins are.
15 post faggot pretending Russia had 360,000 dead.
Its really pathetic
How will peace in Ukraine work
It won't end on Ukraine. Balts and Poland are going too. Putin's going to call the Article 5 bluff by declaring on places no world leader could realistically convince their population to go die for. Then NATO dissolves.
Even NAFOids are now admit it, lol. Mongolkranians are crying what Russia is killing them like on safari, and these fucks are basically slaves worth than in NK - one wrong word and they are executed by their own. It was like for entire war - Russia bombs some meat waves, hohols are releasing one drone video killion one soldier in return. Russia kills another wave - the ukraine coping hard like you are now. Look at any recent news and there is nothing but complete svinorez mixed with their hysterical crying. Just one sentence about white men killing meat waves of brown mongoloid while having 10x+ weapon superiority is enough to fully understand how this war is going on. Goggle Iskander 70+ dead for freshest svinorez.
Oh it has way more than that, don't worry. Unless you want to discredit those over 1 500 000 disabled Russian men that just by sheer luck spawned inside Russia in the last 3 years. Anyways, do you think that Russians evac their wounded? Why is there so many videos of Russians offing themselves on the front? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Oh, by the way, Russian population census was cancelled for the next 10 years. Sad.
How the fuck will this ever work?
How did peace with Nazi Germany work?
This will work the same way. The era of peace by treaty ended along with Christendom. Back before WWI there was still enough left of the old system, of knights, nobility, and "honor" that a country could be expected to keep its word because of "muh honor". That system is so totally gone not even a memory of it remains. The rule of modern warfare is unconditional surrender, at which point the enemy leaders and their families are put to death. Like Saddam, Ghadafi, or the Tsar. It ends when all the men who would resist are dead and the Ukrainian government is a puppet state that takes orders from the FSB.
It will be just like modern Germany, the best of its population dead and the rest living as slaves to their CIA handlers, their history books teaching the youth that they are awful people who got what they deserved who should welcome their own extermination.
Are pulling those numbers out of your neo-vagina or rear-hole?
Stupid troon
damn, ziggers don't even need to come up with some demoralization propaganda when piggers seem to do the work for them so well
Russian doesn't understand constitution and copes
No wonder your pedophilic leader made it look so easy to take over your shithole.
Nobody is going to enforce article 5 for some low life subhuamns, who were slaves to Russians since forever. They will send a one rusty rifle for every ten men and give one working pistol to their overseer to shoot in the back of slaves while they meat rush Russian positions. Just loot at the ukraine, this will be the same but worse because they don't have weapon stockpiles anymore.
I am pulling those numbers out of Russian Ministry of Health ass before they classified the numbers, since they classify everything that points to them being absolutely fucked. Did you know that Russia has 6 000 000 less citizens than they said they have?
Damn, that sounds grim. All those disabled men but I haven't met a single one. Economy going down the drain but my salary goes up. All those casualties but when body exchanges happen Ukrainians receive ~30x corpses. So many oddities.
Works on my machine, I guess.
They will send a one rusty rifle for every ten men
Amazing projection
They know their target audience. Or maybe they think they do. The hoe "street interview" ad is by far the worst though imo.
The funniest thing what while you are coping 1.5k mongolkranians are dying a day, while less than 100 Russians die in return. So your oinking only results in more mc nuggies funeral ceremonies for happy mother with free happy meals.
No you didnt tranny faggot. Even your fake news story about the census says 78,000 dead confirmed by Russia.
And zero sources for Putin cancelling PART of the survey except NEWSWEEK says so.
Funny how you will never be a woman
I don't care about 99% of my empoverished africa-tier shithole, I was born into a wealthy family
Sounds about right. Did you know that most Russian regions have bigger casualities than in WW1+ every single war since WW2 combined? I understand that you really want to go for the record, but you realize that you are losing like 0.5% of your population a year simply by the fact that your women don't want to bring up children in your shithole?
redditspacing lying US flag
Yeah, it is nigger time
oй бля cтpeлoчкa пoвepнyлacь нeнeнe
Lmao not my problem, zogtranny.
I also come across this phenomena quite frequently
It baffles my mind and brings me great pain through second hand embarrassment
worst of all and despite knee jerk retour of them being some belter immigrants they are really germans but terminal redditors
lmao
Sounds about right. Did you know that most Russian regions have bigger casualities than in WW1+ every single war since WW2 combined?
Bullshit.
You wish you had that lmao. I already said that Rosstat classified the data after it turned out you are at 200 year low. Just like your life expectancy data, which when we talk about Russian men, is lower that the retirement age. You always so wished to be civilized country, but centuries of servitude and cuckery always made you just white niggers.
Is this even working? I fucking hate normies so much, souless subanimals
LMAO
Death to Ukrainians!
Healthy
Smart
LMAO!
By the way two million Ukracoins is 42 thousand euros.
To be honest, I'm not on anyone's side.
I'm just trying to look at things realistically.
Of all the parties in this conflict, I think the EU/UK is the most retarded. Why would they put himself in an unenviable economic position because of fucking Ukraine.
Check Russian WW1 casualities (Russia collapsed after giving up with much bigger population than today). Check Afghanistan casualities (Russia collapsed after giving up with much bigger population than today). The only reason Russia didn't collapse yet, is that they are still sending their men to die in Ukraine. Russian army always worked like that and it always lost like that. The only reason why Russia managed to push Germans during WW2 back is because they got 50% of their armor and 80% of their industry given to them by the western powers. Read a book. Even Stalin admitted it.
Its cute when you faggots pretend ukraine is winning
Wow look at you go! Keep going, you're on a roll. I wish to read a full essay on how this shithole is two weeks from a complete military, demographic, political and economic collapse — all at the same time.
Keep at it, maybe you can still convince me that this is not not my problem after all!
he people will always hate their guts now
No difference except the people of donbass can possibly live more peaceful lives now if they survived this "war" (reality is just a depopulation scheme).
The areas that Russia is seeking are areas where Russians are the majority population. The so-called Russian-speaking part of Ukraine.
I'm not on anyone's side.
Even Putin admitted that those were Russian soldiers that crossed the Ukrainian border. Conflict died out way before this renewed invasion, which absolutely decimated the "russian speaking parts" you are talking about. Nobody was dying a year prior. The whole invasion (which Russian government said won't happen and it is just a western propaganda few days prior) is just shameless landgrab, because the conflict died out and both sides would agree on a ceasefire soon. This is why Russian soldiers (admitted by Putin himself) broke both Minsk Agreements. First by attacking Donetsk airport, second by attacking Debaltseve (you cannot argue against this point, because they literally admitted to it), which also means that Russia by its own admission broke the Budapest Memorandum. This is the part where you cope and lie.
Peace will be made after more hohols die
I'm honestly not sure. A few weeks ago there were news that an obituary of someone who had signed up for the program has been found (which would've meant they died mere weeks into the contract, which is odd but not unthinkable). I never bothered to dig deeper and corroborate the source though.
The fact that western goyslop is revered by many village fools is well-known by now. Russia was like that in the 90s as well, it just recovered.
What counts as Ukraine winning? (present tense)
Nobody was dying a year prior.
Filthy liar.
So why did Rosstat classify your birth rate and life expectancy? Why did Putin halted population census for the next 10 years? Is it just for fun?
mere existence
just as trannies
webm
Absolutely pathetic.
Oh I am sorry, 2 combatants (from both sides) died to mines in all of 2021. Anyways, why did Putin invade in 2022 again? You seem pretty confident that it was the right thing to do.
They don't care about Ukraine or its future, they just hate Russia. Just observe how they hardly ever mention it.
Accordingly to you winning means Russia losing 80k dead while the ukraine is over one million porked. Accordingly to Russia winning means losing 80k dead while killing over one million of the ukraninans. Looks like you shilling finally matched the reality, kek.
Yeah.
It won't. It's a stupid low IQ fake anti war stance by Trump and his vatnik administration so Trump can get a nobel peace prize. Until Russia removes it's troops from Ukraine this will never end.
your seethe is pathetic you retarded ukrainian immigrant, go back
You cant win wars with 25% desertion rate
According to Ukrainska Pravda, a leading Ukrainian news outlet, Colonel Taras Maksymov, one of the brigade’s commanders, is reportedly involved in a scandal involving fake payments and extortion of his own troops.
Out of the brigade’s 5,000 soldiers, at least 1,200 have reportedly abandoned their posts, the media outlet revealed. In response to the report, Mykhailo Drapaty, commander of Ukraine’s ground forces, has ordered a formal investigation.
True, can't make this up.
Some of it just sad though, like there was a webm of a little girl playing with pepsi laid next to her deceased father's portrait. I think it used to be his bed or something.
People will hate nothing if propaganda tell them so. If you still did not get that 90% of people are easily brainwashed I have bad news for you
Oh I am sorry, 2 combatants (from both sides) died to mines in all of 2021
Yeah, I very much doubt that.
It is common knowledge that the jews of Kiev were slaughtering and bombing the population in the "Donbass" every other day.
And the based Russkies invaded to prevent the massive military movements already under way by the jews of Kiev to slaughter the people.
Russia losing 80k dead while the ukraine is over one million porked.
If this was the case, you would already have all of Ukraine, but alas, you are 20km away from the 2014 border in 4 years. There are more Russians dying on camera, than 80k. That's just less than 1 year of Ukrainian footage. The 80k number you desperately cling onto is just the number of actual searched obituaries of Russian soldiers, aka the absolute fucking minimum. So, again, where did the 1 000 000 mobilized and 1 500 000 crippled men go to? If you say "rotation", this is will the last (You).
go back hohol nobody fucking likes ukrainians in this country, youre loud retarded subhumans
Are you unable to answer why your country is classifying that data?
I can't read that shit but I found all of this sad. Extremely sad.
Hoď si lano, podčlověku.
If this was the case, you would already have all of Ukraine
Why?
It is common knowledge
Aaand it isn't and you aren't portugese.
Thats a lie.
10 days after Biden took office Kiev started shelling Donbass again.
Ukrainian peace explained for dummies:
Zeleskike: give us back all the land including Crimea or else!!!!!
Russia: what the fuck is this midget clown talking about?
repeat ad infinitum
Because the frontline would break. Also, we would see way more videos from the Russians, which simply isn't happening, because the number of dead in this war is over 1:3 in Ukrainian favor. If you claim otherwise, you are simply a retard not worth talking to, which is why I give up on this thread full of retarded niggers. Time will prove me right anyways.
Redditspacing lying nigger
Because the frontline would break
Why? Why do you think 1 million casualties automatically means the frontline would break?
Also, we would see way more videos from the Russians
Why? Maybe Russia just doesn't release them as often, after all they don't survive from donations.
because the number of dead in this war is over 1:3 in Ukrainian favor.
lmao, go back to your country Taras.
for 3 years.
11 years*
There's a tried and true, allies-approved method of curbing that — barrier troops!
Well the vid's better with sound but hopefully gets the idea across.
On a more serious note, the way in-depth defences are set up now there is no easy way to desert. Fodder is delivered all the way to the line of contact. Their job is to just sit and hold. If they go forward they get droned by Russians. If they go back without permission they get droned by their fellow Ukrainians - or so the threat goes anyway. Second line of defense is a few km in the rear and consists of the more motivated, better supplied and dug in troops, drone operators and the like.
Afaik most desertions happen early on or at least before getting to the frontline. If a Ukrainian survives until his first rotation, he has become accustomed to the war by then and is much less likely to desert. Inexperienced soldiers who have nonetheless been "shot at" already are much more valuable than those who have not (this is true for Russians too).
But yes, desertions are on the rise apparently. Still not widespread enough to cause a collapse though (though it may have contributed to Ugledar's fall iirc) and they even offer incentives for first time deserters to go back without much of a reprimand.
high on Brandon fever
Your comment is filled with irony...
No, it's like you said, they did it for fun. Makes you seethe.
Here have some more constitution in action.
On a more serious note, the way in-depth defences are set up now there is no easy way to desert. Fodder is delivered all the way to the line of contact. Their job is to just sit and hold. If they go forward they get droned by Russians. If they go back without permission they get droned by their fellow Ukrainians - or so the threat goes anyway.
Brutal, but yeah... I imagined it was this way.
What a horror show.
Look at this hohol, he climbed a tree to escape bussification lmao
because the number of dead in this war is over 1:3 in Ukrainian favor
Lol lmao Ukrainians got eradicated.
They will never demographically recover
It's pretty much what one would expect.
are you between 18 and 24 years of age?
sign a contract and get your million!
1mn hryvnas = 33mn robux (or robucks?)
t. Ministry of Defense of Ukraine
Anyway, found the Pepsi vid. The West has exploited Ukrainian youth's obsession with foreign trinkets during Maidan and are doing the same now.
The West has exploited Ukrainian youth's obsession with foreign trinkets during Maidan and are doing the same now.
Yeah, I've known about that video. This war is all a huge shame but at least it will be a turning point in History, it will be the moment the US realised it can't do everything it pleases.
As far as geopolitics, I can see why the US would want to though. Anyone else in its place would, to stay king of the hill. In the end, no matter how this war ends, it will still probably be a geopolitical win for America because it leaves Russia and EU weakened (at least short term). This could backfire if the conflict around Taiwan were to go hot because they all but pushed Russian resources into Chinese hands, but imo all that Chinese posturing is mostly just for domestic market. They'll capitalize on their gains and wait for a better moment.
I wouldn't expect US to stop meddling in other countries' affairs, they're too big a player to stop, and if you stop you lose.
The world would've definitely been a better place if everyone just kept to themselves but it is what it is.
easily
Syria has fallen, US stops agitating and fomenting the local Ukrainian petty nationalist bums selling out their country for the prestige of it and pulls support, the barking dog resets back to realpolitik and continues to exist as a sore on Russia's border that can be pushed to kick it off again
tldr; just do what caused the war, but in reverse
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