This is what the MAGA cultist can't get through their pea-sized brains

This is what the MAGA cultist can't get through their pea-sized brains.

WOW, THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING
powerful

How much does due process cost? How much value is given to non citizens instead of Americans. You can't have one without taking the other. I choose citizens.

aliens dont have rights also get rid if miranda rights while were at it so piggers cant let their cartel niggers walk.

canadian truckers say what?
Your narrative is completely fucking dumb

are you a citizen

no

AFUERA

That is the extent of "due process" they need. You're wanting entire trials that take years to adjudicate. Where was the supposed "due process" when you let in millions of savage brownoids through every poet of entry imaginable? Fuck off, camps for leftists soon.

I know this is bait but due process is for when you're being charged with a crime. Deportees are just people being removed because they're not here legally.

Due process for citizens. Wetbacks raus!

pea-sized brains

The Supreme Court has incorrectly applied the 14th Amendment to non-citizens.

>The Alien Enemies Act, officially "An Act Respecting Alien Enemies," is a federal law passed in 1798 that allows the President to detain and remove, during wartime or when facing a threat of invasion, citizens or natives of a foreign country deemed hostile. It empowers the government to apprehend, restrain, and remove individuals who are not naturalized US citizens and are from a foreign nation or government that is at war with or is threatening an invasion of the United States.

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The Alien Enemies act applies because the asylum seekers are trying to escape due process in their own country. Thus, it can and has been correctly applied here.

What you fail to understand is we’re just going to kill all of you , that’s your due process

Possibly. If we declare war on certain parties of South America and Mexico. That is potentially coming.

to put it into terms Anon Babble can understand:

state takes notice that you've been very critical of israel

cops pick you up and throw you in jail for being an illegal alien

when you show id they say it's fake

they know it's not but they don't care because it's just an excuse to arrest you for criticizing israel

no due process for aliens means you never get to see a judge

this is how cops can arrest and permanently detain/deport citizens

This is a flawed argument.

It's not about gang members, it's more like this:

"idc if black people don't have a right to a trial. They don't deserve it."

"Alright. You're a black person then. Come with me."

"No im not?!"

"Oh, that's right, your White. I was mistaken."

yes but we just don't have time for it because we're at the tail end of like 20 years of bad decisions on immigration, including letting the courts get backed up and letting people stay in the country while they wait for trial and letting people walk in.

yes these are probably all precedents for really bad totalitarian actions, but we just don't have time to do anything else.

so we need a better id system and we should always support israel.

got it.

The Constitution is a document for the rights of the citizenry of the United States. That includes due process. We have absolutely no obligation to grant anything to a foreign invader.

Lib retard finally starting to understand that violence is the ultimate source of authority

Wow, its like everyone deep down knows this and the entire point is to enact violence to protect yourself.

The process they're due is whatever time it takes to figure out if they're here legally or not. That is the only process that is due an illegal alien.

no one needs numerous different appeals when they are clearly not an American citizen who needs to be deported.

no the id doesn't matter
the cops don't even need to say it's fake they can just destroy it
why not since they don't have to justify anything they do in court

How much does due process cost?

That's up to the jew lawyers.
OP doesn't seem to realize that in a country where FAIR protection under the law is for sale at insane prices, very very few people benefit from protection of the law to begin with.

The point was that you need due process to even prove you're a citizen. What if they just say no you're not and take you away.
So by that logic you'll be having to carry your papers with you everywhere, which clearly is not good.

What if they just say no you're not and take you away

what if they just do that anyways if that's their intention with you
a sham little trial isn't going to help you if that's what they want, there's a million ways they can fuck you over during that

Cry harder you unWhite brownoid shitstain faggot

Yeah yeah yeah nobody cared back when Abe Lincoln did it. You poured the wine 150 years ago boot lickers now it's time to drink it.

So then get em out of our country already

She's right.

Due process to them simply means "let us tie this up in courts for years until a democrat president can come in and undo it all". The real travesty is them being so stupid they think people don't realize this.

I'm not a gang member

*shoots the cop in the head in self defense*

I believe police officers are capable of determining who is in the country illegally or not and that counts as due process.

obama and biden both kept people in Guantanamo for years without due process

obama made an election promise to shut it down and didn't

if you cared about the issue at all you'd know that

How much does due process cost?

About tree fiddy.

total humanoid death

Due process isn’t real. The government does what it wants to you whether or not they feel like having show trials first or not.
Have you ever talked to a top level attourney? They will tell you that the entire legal system is fake.

Can't get in trouble for criticising israel if it's wiped off the map.

But I didn't have breakfast this morning.

If they're willing to just make shit up or ignore real documentation to lock you up in this scenario, why wouldn't they just do that in court too?

That's up to the jew lawyers

Stupid jeet that's not how my countries court systems work
GTFO ranjesh, go back to that shit hole you call bharat

The due process for invaders is identification and expulsion
Trials are not required. The trails that are being requested for invaders anyway would take longer than the US has existed up until now. Such a preposterous position can only be said by someone who deserves denaturalization and then fired out of a cannon to whatever shithole the invaders came from.

idk who needs to hear this

the answer is always no one

before due process how is it determined if you are a citizen or not?
Let us say you are at the local gas station buying gas. ICE was told that illegals are common at this gas station. They arrest you and 5 other guys for being illegal immigrants.
Normally, you could say "hey, there is due process. I am not an illegal immigrant. Here are my papers!"
but, if there is no due process. Congrats, now you live in mexico. Complain about how you are actually a citizen and just trying to buy a milky way all you want. It wouldn't matter. beeeecaaauuuussseeeee
There is no due process.

Now introduce the cop who actually does it.
If it is happening right this second than you'd see more immature and immediaetly stupid cases popping up more. You'd see more ridiculous fucking articles.
You don't because it isn't happening, these are literally schizophrenic hallucinations.

black

people

wat

80 IQ adult children with made up jobs because the world is socialist doesn't understand their asshole from their elbow

twitter threads will kill this place

I agree tbdesu. This is America, how difficult is it to prove a gang member is a gang member before deporting? I am for zero illegal immigration but against w. Bush era blacksite behavior wtf. This isn't even a nuanced take. Pol is anti dystopia

Why do leftists, especially white leftists, want a bunch of illegal fucking retarded spic invaders here. they can't honestly believe they improve the country. In fact I know they know they don't. Do they just hate themselves and their own race that much? Fucking despicable pieces of shit.

we all know that an invasion is when there is a formal war and you are being invaded by soldiers from another government. be real.

if one person doesn't have the right to due process then neither do you

So as a man I would lose my right to due process if women lost that right?
As a white man I would lose my right to due process of brown immigrants don't have that right?

Sounds kinda retarded.

if felons can lose their right to vote, so can you

But I'm not a felon and I can't still vote

They see your papers, recognize you are a citizen and let you go. Not complex. They don't need a court for checking that.

Oh, here goes the leftist Discord group again...

false equivalence / slippery slope

Also, it only applies to people who weren't supposed to be in the country in the first place.
Thus, this person is full of shit and so is your group.
Bunch of faggots.

This isn’t a real argument. Why would I be accused of being a gang member? There would be zero suspicion based on how I live my life. I have zero connections to any sort of gun smuggling, drug running, or human trafficking. I don’t have any sort of prior history of violence. I have a stable financial status. No one in their right mind would actually think I have any sort of gang affiliation.

This argument is disingenuous garbage and designed to scare people into thinking the government is randomly disappearing people. The VAST majority of the public has absolutely nothing to worry about.

Le empathy, they think they are being kind and that any country where english isn't spoken is a literally unlivable hell

Being deported is your due process.

The US is a utopian socialist country, based on Jebus. The legal autists were from the South and were crushed during the civil war. The establishment jsutified the civil war because "it felt right" which is also how they practice jurisprudence and why there's so many activists in our legal system.

But I digress, they support it because they don't understand economics and think everything grows on trees and is ceremoniously harvested by minorities. California has to import food to feed itself because all they grow are cash crops, but libturds think it feeds the country because they were told that.

oh, you show your papers to the ice agent and don't care and detain you anyway. Whatcha gonna do? Go complain to a judge? lol. You're an illegal immigrant, You don't get a judge.

Lots of huwhites are going to be deported to South Sudan for criticizing Israel. I can't wait for MIGA tards to get what they voted for.

Magatards know and don't care. Trump could take an actual shit on the constitution during a press conference and they would call him based

oh wow except due process for immigrants is under the ina in article 2 adminstrative courts and article 3 district courts have absolutely no fucking power of review over them because that's what congress fucking said.

when you talk about my heckin due processarino maybe know what the nigger dicking fuckstreet you're talking about in the first place you 0/10 low quality bait motherfucker

Again, if you're imagining the feds ignoring real documents and evidence to rail you, why do you think that couldn't happen in court too

0% of people alive today were alive 150 years ago.

Pack it up Olaf. Time to go to niggerville. Sorry these papers that say you're a "citizen" aren't valid. Come on now.

that's why it's important that you be able to challenge them in court
if they could act as judges themselves then they'd never determine that they did anything wrong

This. Getting sent back to your home country is not a punishment. Simple as.

Well then, surely you would like to return to your home country. The ICE agent says you're from Somalia. Come along, now.

Yes it is how they work.
That whole "A lawyer will be provided for you" shit gets you the worst public defender available, real lawyers demand insane prices, which is why the rich and guilty go free while the poor and innocent often suffer the predations of the law. It is very common for corporate entities to bully and oppress the citizenry by the threat of legal abuse that they cannot afford and for which no public defense will ever be provided.

courts are public? their judgements are recorded and the whole interaction is recorded. There are a lot of different third parties involved at court. However, whatever you say and do with an ice agent is between you and the ice agent. There are no third parties.

they're all getting due process. due process for aliens is to be seen by an article 2 adminstrative court immigration judge. the federal districts aren't even entitled to review these cases, so they try and twist shit like the administrative procedures act to grant themselves jurisdiction, except i think the apa itself says they can't.

roberts refuses to get his courts into line so something is going to give and for some reason i don't think it's going to be the executive. only the fifth circuit is even close to behaving, and james ho just called all the supremes (bar thomas and alito) a bunch of fucking hacks. it was great.

Illegal aliens are given due process though. This is a meaningless complaint

that actually isn't often the case. There are some fresh new lawyers who become public defenders for a check while they try to get a bigger job but a lot of public defenders are professors and old dudes who feel they made enough money and want to "Do good" with their lives.

why do retards keep repeating this?
he did have due process
he had a 2 year court process that he lost, his stay was revoked

nooooo you can't send them back they'll die there!

wow sounds like they're coming from real shitholes

nooooo how dare you, immigrants don't come from shitholes!

What's the difference between worrying about this and worrying about an agent just shooting you dead. What was stopping them from doing that before this whole fuss kicked up

I'm pretty sure they subconsciously think "due process" means that they automatically win the case and nothing can be done to them.
It's some type of bizarro logic.

due process

in immigration cases

is in article 2 administrative courts

not article 3 district courts

all these niggers are getting due process

if you have a final deportation order

your due process is to be driven to the plane

you don't get to challenge shit

Not true. Supreme court ruled a long time ago that everyone is entitled to Bill of Rights regardless of whether they're a citizen or not.

And you better bet your ass it stays that way, because without it being that way they can just SAY you're not a citizen if they don't like you.

I agree. This is America, the w. Bush-era blacksite type of behavior is barbaric. I am against immigration and a protectionist but still a humanist. USA still has a moral standard.

I'm White and a citizen, so no one is trying to deport me.

A system which leaves the poor hoping for someone to be altruistic, or in which you get saddled with a total newb, yes that is certainly not unfair at all.
Face it, your legal system is rigged to favour the rich and oppress the poor.

No they know it means months or years of waiting around (in America) for the courts, maybe during which time they can vanish into the country

Be careful about what you say about the kikes in the coming years, chud.

There is no difference between US citizens and some shitskin who crossed the border illegally.

Get invaded by foreign countries

Literally 40m+ military aged men looting and pillaging your country

Women: NOOOOO YOU CANT JUST FIGHT BACK WE NEED DUE PROCESS TO MAKE SURE YOU ARE SHOOTING THE BAD GUY(AND JUST BECAUSE HES A FOREIGN INVADER DOESN'T MAKE HIM A BAD GUY!) AND WHAT IF YOU SHOOT A GOOOOOOOOOOOOD BASEDYYYYYYGOYYYYYYYYYYYY

Red flag gun confiscation laws set the precedent for the removal of due process, not violent criminal who aren't even supposed to have rights since they entered the country illegally.

Okay then, this friendly ICE agent says you're not a citizen. Come with me.

That isn't a real issue, and isn't what the argument is about anyway. The argument is about whether aliens are entitled to due process before being "deprived" of being in the United States.

The answer is unequivocally no - the government is obliged to give due process when it punishes somebody, and being sent to your home country isn't punishment. And no, we do not need to give them that due process anyway to prevent your bizarre fantasy from happening. It's not happening.

It's going to happen very soon.

Liberals still don't know what illegal means.

My birth certificate and Real ID says otherwise.
Go rope yourself you well poisoning kike

Well then maybe it's time for due process to take a back seat to common sense..?
If they look anything like picrel, they're garbage that's taking a trip back to beanerville.
Quit rotting your brain with lawyerism "well technically it could be argued that..." retardation.
Opening your mind so much that your brain falls out. etc

Sorry, this birth certificate is a forgery, and so is the real id. Come with me now.

no, bill of rights says you get due process. due process. of. law. it doesn't say that what due process is.

congress passes the law, congress defines what due process is, not the supremes. congress says aliens go to immigration courts under article 2 powers. that's the law. you don't like that, petition your congressman.

Two moar weeks

congress doesn't have power to control diminish presidential authority.

They don't get to decide what the constitutional limits of his power are.

The president's power is to faithfully implement the laws passed by congress

idc, throw them all in the ocean and I’m ok with any margin of error at this point.
The country is absolutely 100% on the path to dying from this zero-skilled immigration “refugee” cancer.

Citizenship can't be proven

Everyone might as well be illegal

Get into the oven Moishe

no it isn't.

His power is independent of the congress. Just as it's independent of the judiciary.

He does promise to uphold the law too, but that's not the scope of his power.

how about we just remove congress? I’m ok with removing the entire jewdicial branch.

instantly responds with well poisoning

lmao you kikes actually suck under pressure.

Sure, it can be proven in a court of law. The ICE agent is just going to do whatever Orange Hitler says he should do.

IF ONE SINGLE PERSON IN THE COUNTRY IS ALLOWED TO BREAK THE LAW BECAUSE THEY ARE A NIGGER THEN THE LAW IS WORTHLESS

Even with this due process for suspected illegals you wannabe leftoids are imagining, these theoretical ice agents who randomly want to fuck over your life will still be having you put through the wringer and jailed while you wait god knows how long for a court date

And I didnt get my answer as to what stops him from just putting a bullet in you either way, if we're really being paranoid about this

Sorry I can’t go with you; my ar 15 filled you with holes as soon as you denied my real documents

Sorry!
I’m just uhhhhh not going
I’m just uhhhh going to kill someone that tries to mess with me
I know I’m just sorry not sorry

HAHAHAAH
SORRY!! NOT!!

there's no legislative solution to dealing with gangs (government assets)

we need due process

These people act like they didnt witch hunt Trump for the last 10 years. The law is just a weapon.

My ghost says:

Alright then, the FBI will be here to apprehend you for murder in a few minutes. Good day sir.

due process is for citizens. illegals do not have due process past verifying that they are in fact illegals, which has already been done.

welcome to the year 1861

Be legal citizen

Be part of gang

Gang is comprised of - effectively - all illegals

Except you

President declares your gang to be terrorist organization

Be surprised when you get deported

Be OP

Be a raging niggerfaggot thinking this is some sort of big brained GOTCHA moment

This isn't even an extreme, this is just reaching for reactions.

"If you don't give them due process, next they'll come for you"

That's what you're really saying, but what you're deliberately avoiding is the simple question of

"Are you a legal citizen, yes or no"

If yes, provide evidence

If no, get ejected; do not pass go, do not collect $200.

All these wetbacks don't have the means to defend themselves on the fly making it clear as day for a lot of them - no IDs (or real IDs at that) in their wallets is 9 out of 10 times a dead giveaway.

Sure, it can be proven in a court of law. The ICE agent is just going to do whatever Orange Hitler says he should do.

He does promise to uphold the law too, but that's not the scope of his power.

he's the executive, he is literally the guy responsible for upholding the law in the first place. that's why the executive has sole federal power of prosecution. that's why the doj is executive branch.

Clause 5: Caring for the faithful execution of the law

due process

NDAA

What is this bitch smoking?

Your orange leader loves giving money to Israel and is a sworn enemy of antisemitism.

based
filthy kike fascist gets off with due process every year
but wants to take away everyone else's due process
Total Republican DEATH

What is due process when you can't even divorce your bitch wife without her taking you to the cleaners?

mimimimimimimimi

SHUT THE FUCK UP FAGGOT

you show your papers to the ice agent and don't care and detain you anyway.

You seem to be (((misinformed))) as to what's actually happening. The "papers" that illegals are currently trying to show deportation agents are just a kike judge note saying "judge shlomostein said I could stay even though I'm illegal"

wow man, she is so right! there definitely isn't a written stipulation and obvious implication with the Constitution that says it doesn't apply to immoral malfeasants that are irrational and thus are not the people outlined by the very first sentence.

can't wait to not habeas these faggots corpuses. if you can't wait in fucking line to get your magic plastic card that lets you be here on probationary terms until you prove you aren't a shitter and want to be here for real, go home.

just deport based on skin color

Its not as easy.

This also. The next law that needs to be overturned is the (((((Celler))))) immigration subversion act of 1965

Whitey is already getting deported for wrongthink. Didn't you hear about that guy from Mississippi?

Would Miller be brave enough to do so?

Yup, nobody's perfect. No argument there.
But he closed the border, is sending hundreds of thousands of shitskins back to their shitholes, and importing Whites from South Africa to the US. This is the first time in a century where America is trending towards a Whiter country.

The "papers" that illegals are currently trying to show deportation agents

are nothing. these illegals aren't even denying they're illegal. they're not petitioning for citizenship. these cases are because lawyers are trying to use (typically) the adminstrative procedures act to take immigration cases into district courts, in order to slow the rate of deportation down to zero until after 2026 and/or 2028.

because immigration courts are expedited proceedings and federal district courts are full blown hearings with juries. when that happens the left expects all the cases will get dropped and deportations will cease.

that's what is actually happening, not these weird fucking fantasies that anons are indulging in.

Ahhhh!!!
They’re trying to arrest the people trying to kidnap me but I killed them all
Thank God

I remember when Democrats took Jan 6th protesters as political prisoners, withheld evidence, then kept them in jail for months. For misdemeanors. If Democrats aren't going to recognize our rights why should we recognize theirs.

Have you heard about the Enabling Act that is currently making its way through the Senate?

Once that bill is passed by Congress and signed, Trump will be a dictator.

Trump will be a dictator.

Based.
Constitutional republicanism only works when the vast majority of the country (+85%) is White.

'what if they use this power on someone they're not supposed to' just seems like a question you could apply to anything
Like officers having guns at all

Muh Abraham Lincoln was a dictator

How many times did he suspend habeas corpus?

Do you not understand why the Alien Enemies Act came to being? This is the problem with people who learn policy in the complete absence of historical context. This is why this discussion about birthright citizenship is even a thing: missing the historical context around it.

people with face tattoos could be shot without due process and society would improve

when you show id they say it's fake

they know it's not but they don't care

The kikes and shitskins in Congress want you to trust some MS13 thug over the cops, the FBI, the judges, and ICE. Same shit as pic related

and don't care and detain you anyway.

Ah, you see: in this scenario that I totally made up based on absolutely nothing, you lose!