This is totally ok

500k years = 50 million years

go drink a gallon of bleach and die

Return of the Megaflora! I'm ready.

Seethe and butthurt duly noted

However thats not an argument. You need to explain at what point in the past we should no longer be comparing and why

You wont because you cant

How do you suggest we cope with it being unfixable then?

by energy oligelarchs

The richest man in the world sells electric cars.

Don't bother, it's over already. China still putting 2 coal powered plants to the net per WEEK. India, Africa, all growing countries with rising energy needs.

We won't get the worst of it, but our children and grandchildren will live in a living hell, europe will be a frozen wasteland, most of the equatorial flora will die and turn into deserts, increasing forest fires destroying forests which release centuries worth of stored co2. Also, billions of refugees will want to come to the developed world, it will be worse than now.

Rising sea levels will become really bad in about 50-100, if the western world still exists by then as we know it, most coastal cities must either be completely be surrounded by high walls or people will move inland and the cities will be abandoned.

Not in your or your childrens lifetime. We are in the mids of a mass extinction event, most likely 90% of life will be wiped of the earth in the next 100-200 years. Most forests will burn down or wither away, most life in the ocean will die because it becomes too acidic.

The future is not looking good.

The planet will be fine regardless of what happens.

what point are u trying to make retard?
high co2 = ????
spell it out for me

If the earth is over 2 billion years old, why does your chart only go to 800,000 years? Do you have direct measurements of CO2 levels or are you using a proxy and calling that a direct historical measurement?

Any country that can keep producing enough food and have water and energy resources will be fine.
But large areas will become too hot to live or to produce food, and water will become scarce.
As long as globally we can produce enough food to feed the world population and relocate to cooler areas we will be ok.
However there are some scary questions like wtf happens when the permafrost thaws and an enormous amount of methane goes into the atmosphere.

There are direct CO2 levels measurements from ice cores over a million years old.

What’s wrong with growing more plants? Are you claiming that an increase of 200 parts per million is harmful to humans?

If the poles are melting how will water become scarce? Yes we may have to reroute water as we have done for thousands of years as climate changes happen however thats not a post industrial issue. You are literally making shit up, you have zero evidence for ANY of you false claims

Now stop being a seething and coping faggot and answer the question you are avoiding

I thought you said we shouldnt go back that far? Make your mind up faggot

How far back should we look. Just far back enough to find data that supports your argument but not far back enough to show that the data doesnt support your argument?

Yes we are helping earth by creating more plants by increasing the CO2.
Save the trees - burn more stuff

Rising sea levels

pls kill yourself you fucking retarded kike shill faggot.

lmao

poles melting into the ocean = drinking water and rain

1 million years = 50 million years

In fact 1 million years starts to be too far, but its cool that we have direct measurements of CO2 that far in the past

Those giant bugs should have stopped polluting the atmosphere with all their industry and automobiles.

Ooh ooh I know! Taxes! And more electric things! And cut off our penises and tits!

50 million years ago was about 300 million years after the shit you’re talking about

I just want them to tell me what the ideal global temperature is and then explain why that's the ideal temperature. How the fuck could they possibly know what the ideal temperature for earth is?

exterminate the 3rd world and carbon will go down

All the rising sea level retards don't even know what subsidence is lol.

on the bright side, it should help with reforestation. the planet heals.

Thats still not an answer. Its yet more cope and butthurt. The question was really fucking simple you downs syndrome level retart

You need to explain at what point in the past we should no longer be comparing and why?

Try again. See if you can answer it without making a further clown of yourself

420

blaze it

There were insects that were still huge at the end of the Cretaceous. Just not bigger than two men. Bigger than toddlers, yes. But there's always been small insects as well. Once birds specialized further, they disappeared.

They have no idea anon, there is no such thing as an ideal temp though an optimal range does exist

OP is just a typical NPC, sharting out lines he has been programmed to repeat but completely unable to actually understand what hes saying or to think critically about it

millennia

the earth is 4.5 bil yrs old oxygen breathing life has existed for 2.5 bil yrs. millennia is fuck all, the blink of an eye.

I'd say the ideal global temp is one that doesn't collapse ecosystems and boil a human's brain without support of technology.

There is no 800k year old ice core data

Didn't they recently admit the artic has more ice than ever?

Checked. Not ideal temperature in an abstract sense, but the ideal temperature in which we have the most fertile land, water, good climate, etc for human development.

green energy is a psyop from china. It has the west buying solar panels made in china and dropping the use of coal. This makes coal cheaper for china to buy and use, for every 1 plant the west shuts off, china builds 2.

You'd have to be a moron to think this helps anyone but china. And the env isn't going to improve from this.

Which ecosystem? With temp changes some ecosystems fail and new ones thrive. Thats been the case for billions of years. Ice ages are ecosystems. Deserts are ecosystems

Your comment is the kind of NPC nonsense that you think sounds reasonable because you dont really understand what you are saying or how non specific it is. What are the exact ecosystems you think should be idealized for?

No lol, artic ice has been in a clear measurable decline since the 80's but ofc there is variation from year to year.

cpenis require to show world big load
Build many coal fire power plants to ejaculate ccpenis co2 all over earth.

Do you realise that you sound exactly like a cultist warning about Armageddon if we don't make sacrifices (it used to be babies, now it is central heating)? Or, as you seem to believe that it is too late a manic Street Preacher yelling about the end times? You are in a cult mate. A shitty cult filled with fags, degenerates and women killing their babies so they don't produce CO2. What a retarded cocksucker you are.

If only I had invested 100,000 years ago.

kek

artic

why can neither of you ESL niggers spell the word arctic? it's fucking embarrassing the state of education today.

when the whole world works on making a better climate for your country

it's NPC nonsense to not have your brain boil when you go outside without life support equipment

You are brown

seriously scientific questions here anons.......seems to coincide the 6 million jews were in the ovens? non?

Its the Antarctic where ice is growing anon not the Arctic. All the climate change predictions are completely wrong on this (as always) but its whats being measured at the Antarctic

Answer the question bullshit boy. You have already made yourself like a complete spastic now try and redeem yourself

Which ecosystem? Done make generic statements that have no meaning like a sub sahran african and be specific as though you have an IQ above 85

Because 'artico' without the 'c' in the middle is the correct spelling in romance languages like italian and spanish, so it is easy to make that mistake.

seems to coincide the 6 million jews were in the ovens?

actually jewish bones contain a compound that sucks the carbon dioxide out of the air when exposed to heat. i think it's worth a try.

That chart combines co2 ice core data, a proxy for atmospheric co2, with modern direct measurements of co2 in the atmosphere. It’s intellectually dishonest to combine them and draw conclusions.

my ire was really directed towards the mutt, you just got caught in the crossfire.

fuk yurself with a banger u mong
Innit bruv

Russian niggas be buying some land in Siberia for your grandkids.

see
this is what i was hoping for.

thou ask and thou shalt receive

The ecosystem where I can go outside without it being a wet bulb temperature of 35c for more than several hours, and I will almost certainly die without life support equipment.

Carbon Dioxide bad!

Debunked

wow they had the equipment to test the air back in 500,000 BC?!

Co2 in the ice cores is not a proxy but a direct measurement through analysis of the air trapped in the ice, which you can do when you extract enough of it.
Temperature asociated with the isotopes of oxygen is indirect.

exterminate all leftist and leftist adjacent sinners.

Stop with all of these facts. You need to pay more taxes, stop driving and accept infinity 'climate immigrants'. It is for the planet and the science is settled. Bill Gates told me so, you Luddite. Only more Africans can save us now.

*puts the C02 detector right by an exhaust vent*
THIS IS HISTORIC THE C02 LEVELS WE'RE READING
*puts heat monitoring sensors in the middle of asphalt parking lots*
THIS IS HISTORIC THE TEMPERATURE LEVELS WE'RE READING

it is all so tiresome

did we change the sun too?

kek

This Italian faggot doesnt understand the words hes saying. He is hilarious

No lol, stellar evolution follows a very predictable path. We have literally billions of samples we can look at so we know how the sun was millions of years ago and how it will be in the future.
We couldnt do shit to the sun even if we tried.

do we measure the temperature of moon? would be cool to see if its average stays the same or does sun cycles affect it

can’t reference co2 from 50 million years ago

can reference co2 from 500 years ago

I am Spanish and straight as an arrow as the say memeflag

Is really that hard to understand?

I don’t believe either of their dating. But it would make sense to me that when the entire planet was filled with vegetation there was a lot of co2.

It’s because we are destroying the ecosystems, such as the ocean and the forests. The amount of pollution that comes from India alone decimates phytoplankton in our oceans which is the biggest carbon sink.

That being said the rise in temp from this is only 0.01c and is negligible. Climate cultists cope and seethe

Very possibly it has been way more stable than the Earth's temperature because it has much less variables, but i have no idea.

So what you are saying is with more co2 we can expect healthier and more bio diverse ecosystems

So not only are you a delusional bullshitter you are a newfag. Calling you a faggot here has nothing to do with your sexuality. Now Spanish faggot, answer the question you keep avoiding

You need to explain at what point in the past we should no longer be comparing and why? A cut off date and why that cutoff date is important

You will continue to avoid because you cant answer because you dont actually understand what your data means

ATMOSPHERIC CARBON DIOXIDE JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE

I'm underwater right now

We couldnt do shit to the sun even if we tried.

whatabout if we put rocket engines on mercury an altered it's orbit so it crashed into the sun? do you think that would do anything?

He is saying that the Earth was a completely different environment. Bugs that big could exist because the amount of oxygen in the atmosphere was also much higher than today.
Scientist actually tested a population of flies in a rich oxygen environment and they saw that the motherfuckers were growing much larger generation after generation.

Lmao we cant even land in Mercury. It tooks years to calculate a plausible trajectory to send a probe there.

Should I supply my babies with extra oxygen at night so that get bigger too?

CO2 is fertilizer jackass

This is totally ok

No problem at all.

Why would you think this is ok and not a problem? Are you stupid? It seems like it will be a problem.

they saw that the motherfuckers were growing much larger generation after generation.

maybe ve vill eatz zee bugs, when they're as big as chickens.

i supplied my cock with oxygen at night and your mom thought it got bigger

That's wrong. According to the Bible the world was created less than 7,000 years ago.

most likely 90% of life will be wiped of the earth in the next 100-200 years

Kek. No.

looks like the UK's immigration chart

hans has always been dramatic about shit.

What's the problem with more co2?

Global warming bullshit had its chance to convince us and it failed. This shit is not persuasive.

Most people who are ever going to evaluate the information have evaluated it and concluded it's not that important.
The way it looks to us is that it's just a scam by solar/green energy to grift funding while leftoid politicos justify more political power for themselves.

Straight as an arrow in any way memeflag.
There is not cut off date, is not a defined line, but the more you go into the past the less relevant the data is because the environment was different and the climate in general is very complex.
Albedo, continents, thermohaline circulation, and yes, in the tens of millions of years even the sun changes very significantly.
500k years in the past is still quite similar to today, 50 million years not really so you could have way higher levels of co2 and have a cooler climate than today.

It would not surprise me if they have already looked into this particular idea...

i'll try 'owt once, it's how i know artichokes are fucking disgusting and not meant to be consumed by humans.

It works with insects because of how their respiratory system is. They dont breathe actively, the oxygen diffuses from pores into them. If you have a big bug that is a much bigger amount of oxygen needed in relation to surface area.

Looks like we may be able to dodge the ice age.

No because cargo ships help China. We don’t talk about third world emissions either because that doesn’t make money for the thieves involved in green energy and the carbon trading market.

Stop blocking nuclear power then faggot

still not showing us the northern hemisphere ice cores

Oh. Wait.

Of course not, this means more plants.

there used to be giant bugs and shit nigga fuuuuuck

roflmao

science says there used to be giant bugs and shit nigga fuuuuuuck

so heckin true!

oh fuck oh fuck oh fuck we are so fucking fucked

OH NO MORE ARABLE LAND WHATEVER WILL WE DO WITH THAT
what would we even do if we didn't have to live on a narrow ass strip on top of the US so we don't freeze to death
how will we cope with having the 2nd largest country on earth and actually being able to use the fucker for something

this

ok buddy you don't have to go hurt their feelings now do ya?
brighteon.com/881137b2-5d54-4182-a47e-bb42f7626b90

line goes up

That's a good thing, anon. Don't you know? All lines should go up, always.

firstpost,,,bestpost.,

Thats so cool they have records from 800 thousand years ago, and they even charted it too, based SCIENCE, remember when climate faggots were saying we were entering an ice age in the 70s and the world wouldnt make it to see Y2K?

Imagine not wanting to live in a world full of tropical greenery with 300 pound flying insects. What a pussy.

Looks like the Voyager

Oh Canada will be nicer, only that those 4 billion pajeets (estimated) will have to go to your country when their countries become too hot to live or sustain their population need for food and water.

Air bubbles trapped in ice cores are degraded and altered over time, therefore it’s a proxy. This isn’t controversial.

Feel free to turn off your internet and computer. Creating the electricity to run those is adding to the """problem."""

Cool! Lets cut all the trees we can! They will grow back faster!

Wipepo did that

we know what the atmsophere had in it millenia ago

LOL
I'm sure the jew can provide verifiable undeniable proof of this without using jew science to do so, right?

I run my house with solar, not because is going to solve any global co2 issue, but because is actually an interesting investment if you have some cash on the side.

Air doesnt degrade like milk, is more like a McDonalds burger.

this is a timespan of hundreds of years at the absolute science fiction minimum
we'll deal with them before then

OP 31 pbtid

We dont know yet, it could be as short as 150 years.

You compare data that was gained with different methods?
And why is the small 5% that humans added supposed to be a problem but the 95% of natural CO2 is not?

OVERPOPULATION

who cares? I'll be dead before any of this starts to matter

Co2 was around 300 ppm before the industrial era, now is 420 ppm. That is an increase of 40% not 5%.

Well at the pace Russia is going in Ukraine it will run out of men by 2030.

not my problem.

Dinosaur Era had 3x the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere than today. The earth was here before humans, it will be here after. You do not have an effect on this earth like you think you do. All the pollution in the world went away within 24 hrs of the Corona lockdowns lmfao. Not 24 years. Not 24 months. 24 hours HAHAHAHAHA

doesn't one good volcanic eruption put 1,000,000x the amount of human history's pollution into the atmosphere at one time? what's the plan to silence the cones once and for all?

why havent they just peppered the landscapes with saplings

millenia

Exactly, because it was much higher millions of years ago

All the pollution in the world went away within 24 hrs

Some air pollution, like the smog, not the co2.

Unironically this.

animals need oxygen, and exhale Co2

plants need CO2 and "exhale" oxygen

If one of them gets out of balance, the other one helps reestablish balance

the plants gave off TOO much oxygen

now there's tons of plants and the conditions are ripe for animals to explode

So the animals eat the plants

1,000,000x the amount of human history's pollution into the atmosphere at one time

nigga wtf?....

we're going to hit a wall with these creatures within the next 10

Who gives a turkey?

So at what point will the plants drown in what they crave?

They are still food self suficient nations so as long as they get the energy they need they are going to keep multiplying like roaches.

Jarvis, please display a chart of CO2 levels by geological epoch. Yes, add labels that show that e.g. the Eocene had a twice today’s level. Use that to demonstrate we are actually lowest point in Earth’s history.

People with a developed prefrontal cortex

Another 50 million year old comparing nigga here.

so the rise should come with a balanced fall as per data. how will the magnified fall be represented in nature

When the Brawndo levels reach 1,000,000 ppm

they are currently in population decline
sooner or later they'll hit the limits of the human immune system and die of a plague

The bugs larger than kots lived 400 million years ago, 40 million years ago the human ancestors were swinging through the trees munching bananas

Eat a fat dick Chicken Little. The sky is not falling. I wish that it was, because it would remove retarded panic merchants (like yourself) from the gene pool. Climate cultists get the rope, you are too indoctrinated to be in contact with rational humans.

Sorry mate, I was responding to another poster.

Most of the oxygen is made by algae
which need a certain pH in the ocean
a pH which is lowering due to acidification
due to increased CO2

You complete fucking RETARD

doesn't one good volcanic eruption put 1,000,000x the amount of human history's pollution into the atmosphere at one time? what's the plan to silence the cones once and for all?

No. it certainly does not.

This is not 'the dinosaur era' and if you like the way the world is currently in terms of stability and climate - more co2 will fuck that up.

I, too, like solar power. Because of the vast amount of African slaves and Chinese semi slaves involved in the manufacturing of solar panels and storage batteries. The amount of pollution that it creates in those countries is just the icing on the cake. Real HuWhite nationalists support solar. Especially in this HuWhite boy summer.

you cant reference co2 data from 50 million years ago because ... uhhh because uhh you just cant ok!

based

It's literally not a problem. Cope harder, imbecile.

Is too far in the past

Nigger, what? Every single type of organism that exists now already did back then.

Even the sun was much different

Question: is the sun's output increasing or decreasing the further we move from its origin?

oh no, have you told the chinese?

Is not about the type of organism but the response of the environment to Co2 levels, continents, thermohaline circulation, albedo,...
The sun radiation output was smaller in the distant past, and it is increasing slowly.

You guys deliberately started those fires two years ago and tried to desperately blame it on climate change while destroying our air quality and visibility and making everything smell like a campfire for weeks. You should be held accountable for it the same as China needs to be held accountable for covid.

look at the fucking line! i cant any more with you CHUDS

I dont know if you are disingenuous or just stupid but the modern data is interspliced earlier and everything out of the ordinary is quite literally a speculative projection.

really makes me think

This.
400k is the cut-off.
Everyone older than that is underwater stalagmite/tite cave probes measuring the Saharan sediment deposition..

No one believes this shit anymore
Fuji was supposed to be underwater by now
You're like a doom cultist who keeps believing the cult leader even though they keep pushing back the doomsday date.
Most cultists leave after the doomsday passes, they are smarter than you

You better be living next to the Ural, anon.

There is much older ice still on the planet, but is not easy to drill. The oldest sample is around 1.2 million years old, extracted from a 2.8km deep drilled hole.

The Climate Change hysteria got dropped as soon as they said the best way to fix the climate was close down all small farms and use the land to house migrants. Whatever voices left beating this drum are paid shills from the top down.

My rabbi says jews are an interdimensional invasion and they really want you down to only half a billion.
Are you sure you want to kill most of humanity?

OH MY GAWD LOOK AT THOSE HECKIN LINES YES YES SIR TAKE ALL MY MONEY YES I'LL EAT THE BUGS AND LIVE IN THE POD JUST TELL ME YOUR GOING TO MAKE THE TEMPERATURE GO DOWN 2 DEGREES FOR THE CHILDREN

This issue has become so polarized that it has become Yankees vs Red Soxs, if you study global warming and concede any relevance to the concerning data you are automatically considered a tranny.
But the data is there for those who like to think for themselves.

Sorry but Antarctic probes off limit to public investigation is meaningless to me.
If the military prevents me from taking my own samples I consider any and all of their findings to be fabricated.

Who paid for the data?

We're in an ice age now (poles have permanent ice). What do you think it was like during the last warm age (poles thaw in summer)?

The only data that is relevant to us is at most 250,000 years old. Anything much older and it's data that doesn't correlate with our anatomy.

poles with ice = ice age

You mean the most fuel-efficient internal-combusion-powered transport vehicles to have ever existed? It's not miles per gallon, it'a miles per gallon per unit cargo. Doing it any other way would burn more fuel.

environment

Same as it is now, hence why I mentioned lifeforms.

continents

Roughly the same shape

thermohaline circulation, albedo

And those changed how?

solar output

Are you trying to say it was significantly different 50m years ago? Please.

fake and gay, like all modern science

But the data is there for those who like to think for themselves

You've been wrong so many times before. Now you ask for complete control of everything, just to hold the line, while we send our pollution to China. No.

Carbon dioxide dissolves in water, eg ice. The air doesn't "degrade", but it may not be representative of the atmospheric conditions people want to find out about.

miles per gallon per unit useful cargo that isn't plastic temu trash

Remember when the word of the day was 'ozone layer'?
I can't remember the last time I even heard someone mention it
They used to go on hard about 'rising sea levels' too. Completely forgotten meme now.

The world is ending but the rich aren't fleeing from the sea side, coal power is still strong as ever and all political capital is spent on Israel and foreign wars. Hmm I don't know.

He is saying that the Earth was a completely different environment.

still more similar to modern Earth than any other planet discovered, out of ~6000.

That organisms relatively similar existed does not mean that the climate response to a Co2 changes are similar.
The continents were much different, affecting albedo and thermohaline circulation.
The sun evolution is very predictable, the estimation is roughly 20% less energy output 50 million years ago.

Most organisms live less than 200 years. How many currently-living humans do you expect to be kicking around in 2225?

affecting albedo

We are fighting with a hand tied behind our backs. The computation resources necessary to come up with precise models cost too much.
So instead of doing proper modelling we have to parameterize data to make it simpler.

co2 dissolves in liquid water, not ice

Come on pol chuds, let's hear all the climate change denial propaganda you've been brainwashed with by energy oligelarchs. Let it all out. Regurgitate everything.

Is the method they are using to measure CO2 from 2000 years ago the same as the method they are using right now?

CO2 is only one type of ghg. Water vapor is the largest ghg.

I totally agree !
We should water the plants with electrolytes and supplements them with CO2 as this way they will grow way faster indeed !

PS: Just don't go to the fastest and easiestly retarded way so as to water them with Brawndo I beg you.... ^^'
Even though it's what Mount Sant Hoe told you Anon ;)

Let's hear the climate change propaganda you've been fed by the people who implement carbon taxes, carbon offset schemes, and get rich off of the green industry. Tesla would be deep in the red if it weren't for carbon offsets. They don't make money off the cars -- they make money because the government essentially gives them a financial instrument for claiming they get x amount of mileage on their electrics (a claim they're currently being sued over by consumers).

That organisms relatively similar existed does not mean that the climate response to a Co2 changes are similar.

That's exactly what it means. Specifically, the living part of the equation.

The continents were much different, affecting albedo and thermohaline circulation

No, they were not. Albedo is a function of cloud cover, all oceans already had their current shape at that time.

The sun evolution is very predictable, the estimation is roughly 20% less energy output 50 million years ago.

Nigger, WHAT? Try to apply that calculation backwards on a scale of billion years, to know why it is sheer nonsense.
Then go back 4.5b years.

Yes. An ice age is an age with permanent ice. These have varied from the modern poles-only version to year-round ice at the equator.

Indeed...
Picrel is just the remanant impression left onto the upper atmosphere after having FTL'd its way to another destination :)

can't reference from 50 million ago

can reference from 800k ago as if that means a damn thing

ok there

Don't know. Probably never. Plants thrived in 7000ppm conditions, so we're nowhere near seeing it happen.

Ice too.
cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/16C2FF52DC79BA7A58AF069168183F1D/S0022143000033487a.pdf/co2-in-natural-ice.pdf

estimated 80% of the CO2 in frozen air bubbles dissolves into the ice

Yes, the sun is going to keep growing and getting brighter as it becomes a red giant. Eventually, all the water will be boiled off the planet. Then, eventually, the sun will expand to where the Earth is now. Tell me more about how we're going to save the planet. Driving an EV and turning off your home's AC isn't going to do shit to stop this.

Underrated and equilibrium'd pilled

Uh oh...
What about muh phyto-zoo plankton, muh cetaceans, muh halieutics ressources...
Huh oh...

t. sry, I just came onto shore just recently...Still need to adapt and learn b4 being seen as needed to go back at sea...

Whish you a good trip on land nonetheless, as am sure you'll evolve hastily, you just need to understand the mistakes you're making on your journey (like any of us) and it will be a good one fren !
Cheers ;)

eliminate India. problem solved within a generation

You can put a mouse in a glass cage or in a polycarbonate cage, in both cases it is living but the cage is not the same.
Albedo is not just cloud cover, depends also on ice amounts and vegetation.
The changes in solar energy output in time are not linear of course.

Just dump fertilizers in the ocean

Why should I give a shit? Women won't date me, I have no kids. Let the planet burn.

Tell me more about how we're going to save the planet.

Solar sail floating on radiation pressure that slowly pulls Earth into a higher orbit as it focuses sunlight on a planetary solar collection array. Tiny acceleration, but the time frame is a billion years. Of course, a billion years ago, the state of the art was single-celled microbes conducting photosynthesis. Do you think the next billion years will see larger or smaller changes than that to a Saturn V?

That would be a significant start.

millenia

what cherry picking looks like. The earth is 5 billion years old according to science cucks. 1000 years is a rounding fucking error

The really telling fact that the people who go on about climate change are actually just scam artists is that a lot of the most prominent ones are heavily involved in AI and crypto currency -- both of which are massively energy intensive. The guy telling you to buy his EV is also telling you to invest in crypto, which collectively uses more energy than some entire countries. These people are a total joke.

That is about a billion years from now.
We are talking about our grandchildren here.

Zoom out

Why wont women date you anon?

Yet none of you faggots will address the biggest polluter: China

Says who?

you're free to zero your carbon emissions at any time you useless niggers.

And it’s still only 10% of what it’s been in the past, which means the idea of a runaway greenhouse effect is null and void since the earth demonstrably has means of carbon sequestration. It was higher, and now it’s not. So it can go higher again without the world ending.

Definitively so.

Co2 levels can go much higher without causing a runaway greenhouse effect and our planet becoming like Venus.
That doesnt mean that the resulting planet could sustain + 8 Billion humans.

Ohh no!

CO2, also known as plant food, is rising!

Everybody panic!

Educate yourself retard. Zogbots try to stop CO2 because it creates enormous crop yields that support massive populations they can't control. High CO2 isn't an environmental catastrophe, but low CO2 is literally an existential threat.

Do you realise that crops need water too?

Pretty much all there really is to say.
They need your population growth to underperform theirs.

And?

The cage in this acse are other lifeforms, which are equivalent.

The changes in solar energy output in time are not linear of course.

Are you trying to say that Sun went from 70% of its luminosity at the start, for the next 4b years it gained merely a third of this gap and then got the other 2/3 in the past 50m years?
That's a joke, right? Right?

Then complain about the water instead of the CO2 you stupid fucking nigger.

Nothing. Enjoy the resulting neighbourhood

In itself co2 is not an issue, is the temperature changes and also consequently the precipitation changes that are the problem.

That is exactly what a low CO2 environment looks like, you goddamn retard.

250,000 years old. Anything much older and it's data that doesn't correlate with our anatomy.

Why lie, jew? Can't argue using facts?

Who was measuring this millennials ago

What exactly is the argument? The problem you claim doesn’t exist, so the result is a fantasy, and even in the case it was real it is according to you not going to happen in my lifetime.

Are you attempting to claim some sort of superiority to your current existence? Why does it matter on a geological or climatological scale how anyone or anything lives in the grand scheme of things?

Why are americans/canadians so fucking retarded?

do not look at the data that contradicts our retarded hypothesis

because... the sun was different 1 million years ago, m'kay?

and continents were different

and clouds

and water

and biology was different

everything was different, including co2, but ummm akshully the co2 part I like is legit, rest is all irrelevant bullshit, m'kay?

That doesnt mean that the resulting planet could sustain + 8 Billion humans.

In general, Earth had higher carrying capacity in the past, when carbon dioxide concentrations were higher and vegetation far more abundant.

You may not give a shit about anything but people who think about the future do.

Shut up, bitch

Oh you're not merely shilling, you're actually dumb. When they do these experiments they have this little thing you might have heard about in elementary school called control variables. Crops increase yield with CO2 even if all other variables like water, temperature, humidity, sunlight, and soil nutrients are exactly the same.

Learn to think for yourself faggot.

jew switching from MUH GLOBAL WARMING

to

it's really just all about overpopulation

You can always do your part and depopulate yourself to lessen the burden on the planet.

And undisturbed soils
just sayin'

Increases in atmospheric CO2 are already beginning to green deserts. We are in the middle of an Ice Age Termination event, something that can't be stopped or reversed once it begins and something that will cause life to absolutely explode upon the planet and there is nothing you can do about it.

We are stretching it as it is right now. Another volcanic event like the Tambora and hundreds of millions would die of hunger in a year.

yeah? dont you want to promote plant growth or are you a filthy meat eater

The largest source of methane is tropical wetlands
Increased temperatures means increased evaporation which means rain. Flooding and access to clean water is more likely to be a problem.

Ofc the other variables will not remain the same, that is the point.
Are you high?

What if I told you that I don't care and don't believe you? My evidence is that the only proposals to fix CO2 has been spending billions of dollars on 'carbon capture' instead of PLANTING TREES.

You are all fucking retarded if you believe the experts.

So having a higher yield agriculture would have been beneficial in such a situation, right?

There is no fixing it. All the 'fixing it' stuff are scams. But the climate fuck up coming is real.

It is you ignorant backwards luddite inhuman moron.
Go fuck your mother.

Yield agriculture being low in such an event is actually the issue.

Lmao

NTA but there’s plenty in Antarctica. climate change is gay faggotry tho

So it would have been better to have a less productive agriculture in this scenario?

Perhaps money would be better spent creating infrastructure improvements instead of bullshit that destabilizes it.

When the Tambora erupted it caused what was called 'the year without a summer', and crops production plummeted. Read about it.
Human developement is a house of cards.

its aatic

No matter how much we spent there is not fixing it, so yes, creating infrastructure is the way to go.

thank you for destroying OP for trying to increase our taxes.

It increases due to the evaporation cycle that maintains earth's temperature. Most of the planets surface is covered in water.

kek

Read the article you idiot. It says that in cold weather, where the ice is formed by sintering of ice crystals co2 represents the atmosphere composition where it formed.
Also try to find something more recent and not a study from 1978

Centuries, geologically speaking, might as well be seconds. The earth's age is measured in billions of years. A century is a blink of the eye.

Volcanic eruptions cause cooling due to their release of sulfates, which form reflective aerosols in the upper atmosphere. Powerful eruptions like Tambora can inject a large amount of sulfates into the stratosphere, where there is no precipitation to scrub them out.

So, in that specific situation, is it better to have a higher or lower yield agriculture?

Read the article

cambridge.org/core/services/aop-cambridge-core/content/view/16C2FF52DC79BA7A58AF069168183F1D/S0022143000033487a.pdf/co2-in-natural-ice.pdf

CONCLUSIONS

CO2 in natura l ice is present partly in the gas of the air bubbles. Another, and in most

cases greater, part of it is dissolved in the ice.

It is probable that a local equilibrium is reached between the CO 2 dissolved in the ice

and the CO2 of the surroundings a nd of the air bubbles.

The CO2 content of ancient air is neither directly preserved in the total CO2 concentration

nor in the CO 2 concentration in the bubbles.

Possibly the CO2 content of a ncient air may a t least be estimated if the solubility a nd the

diffusion constant of CO 2 in ice a re known as a function of tempera ture.

source: my bleeding gay prolapsed ass

Extremely compelling.

These glacial core measurements are objectively pseudoscience.

Now that seems like a bold statement but let me explain why. There is no falsifiability nor testability in the theory since you can't go back in time and take an accurate measurement and then compare to your core samples to see if your theory and predictions actually holds up. They could make up literally any correlation they wanted to. They could say the number of air bubbles present in the core sample is correlated with dinosaur farts, or alien laser beams. Doesn't matter because you can't disprove it since you can't go back in time and verify that the correlation is real and accurate.

So, by definition, this is not science although it is pretending to be scientific. Thus, it is objectively pseudoscience.

fake chart. tree like co2

I'm afraid it doesn't say anything temp etrapolation from carbon dioxide content.
Perhaps try again?
Because the data from that pic definitely didn't come from this hypothetical method.

I love how you show a graph with these abstract figures on it in order to obfuscate the truth
The actual amount of CO2 in the atmosphere is like 0.4%
And that's up from 0.3% in the last 40 years
Actual nothing burger, faggot

Plants also inhale o2 and exhale co2. What do you think they do at night when there is no sun for photosynthesis to happen?