Denmark to raise retirement age to 70 years old

Accept a smaller population while trying to find work arounds through automation as to why no has thought of how to reduce number of labourers with technology isn't new

This is Denmark so I fully see more countries following a welfare state like Denmark doing this all but guarantees many will follow

Kek would never work in America, my employer considers people in their 30s too old to hire. It’s actually fucking retarded.

So what are we supposed to do? There's literally nothing anyone can do to increase or reverse birthrates.

Importing immigrants depresses native birth rates. And feminism pushing women to work decreases birth rates. The solutions are obvious, but NPC people have mental blocks that prevent them from changing opinions or do things to solve problems.

you'll never retire if you are cattle relying on public welfare to retire. aka state pensions.
If you want to retire at a decent age you should have private pensions, investments and cash savings that you can use to live on between desired retirement age and when the state pensions kick in.

Accept that infinite growth is literally impossible

Defend your people's interests

Determine long term sustainable population goals

Help me out here anons I know there's more. Stop buying into globalist bullshit that line must always go up and gdp must always increase even at the cost of destroying your native population.

You wouldn't need infinitely increasing birth rates if you didn't implement a ponzi scheme for retirement.

Nobody is going to tell me when i can retire, im not depending on some retarded pension from the government even though ive paid tons for the current pensioners, who is going to pay for me, Sanuwar ?
Yeah, no worries...
Ive got mine and i suggest you try to do the same. Depending on government will make you a bum.

Happiest country in the world

Get told you need to import a billion africans to pay for your pensions

the africans don't actually pay for your pensions

The solution is to raise the pension age and import another billion africans to pay for your pensions

Europe in a nutshell

The Liberal World Order will have you living in conditions worse than medieval serfs rather than reforming.

How are you supposed to do that in the UK when the average wage doesn't even cover rent?

I will take this over importing third worlders

nuke Belgium

kick out jews

kick out muzzies

increase export prices to get more money

build more industry instead of blowing all money on satisfying LGBT perverts

focus more on education and support to raise more intelligent and patriotic people who can actually get shit done instead of importing browns who will use up your free education and then fuck off

Not that complicated, you just need to get rid of all the amerigolem and eurojew media brainwashing that tells you everyone is equal

This. Those gibs aren't growing themselves

Retirement was always a boomer scam psyop.

The only solution to reverse the problem is to remove women's rights and create government mandated breeding camps

Problem is not the smaller population, but the youth/elderly ratio.
Too little young people to sustain the increasing amount of old people.

You will never retire, chud.

Well it basically means: you will retire but with less benefits.

The rich need more bugattis and yachts.

believes mainstream propaganda

Kek!

Yeah, but we still have to pay for their pensions instead of saving that money for our own

stop eating avocado toast and cancel your subscriptions.

Honestly I think pension systems ultimately break countries on a long enough time scale.

You either continue the financial pyramid or you cut the retirement fund and euthanize older folks, so younger people in working age start actually to work for themselves.

When I was around 20 I noticed than retirement system is pyramid game...those who join it later paying retirement for those who joined it earlier...so I started saving my own retirement and I have been idle since when my yearly dividents start were bigger than my yearly living expensives. It is only way to get retirement for those who are 20 today....save and invest your money....don't trust the system.

Good. Forced savings and retirement funds are yet another tentacle designed to sever communal, familial and Christian ties and retard economic society.

retirement age of 65 was fixed when life expectancy was 66 (1948 denmark)
life expectancy is now 81, why the fuck would retirement age be 65? if you're healthy enough to live 16 more years, why would you just decide you're done being part of society and fine sitting home being a leech

they keep their goycattle healthy by forcing them to bike everywhere, so they can keep them slaving longer LOL

historically it was understood that if you had no savings, nor a family to take care of you after getting too old to work, you died and that was it
pensions shouldn't exist, if anything people would be at a lesser risk of poverty if they kept 100% of their income instead of paying 25%+tip of it to a non-optional social security scheme that collapses like a ponzi at the mildest demographic regression

Life expectancy outside infant and childhood death has remained largely flat since time immemorial. You didn't gain fifteen years of life over the silent/gayest generation, medicine is a scam.

Before "retirement," you worked until you couldn't. When we became prosperous enough to let some people slack off, giving the old man a reward for living longer than expected became the tradition of "retirement."
Then it became an entitlement, and now normies are scandalized when it is threatened.
It's just simple math, that a generation that increased its numbers with many children will be comfortable in old age, and each succesive generation that has fewer and fewer children will get less comfortable.
Boomers are whining now because their parents' opulent retirement schemes are unaffordable. Gen X will whine harder, and the piteous wails of Millenials will sound like the screams of damned souls in Hell. It's just simple math.
Importing worthless foreigners can't save you. Look at these people: immigration only made it worse.

Imagine how healthy cycling in sub-zero temps in rain and strong winds to the joints, surely helps goycattle slaving 10-20 years more longer

boomers continue to pull up the ladder behind them

Just pay into this thing your whole life and maybe you can benefit from it when you reach the average age of death.

You're a mongoloid.

Yes, you have to decrease the state benefits for old people.
That is what I am arguing for.

Thats directly caused by all the "migrants" who dont contribute to the tax base and receive benefits. Mass immigration to Western nations has brought nothing of benefit besides tacos, jerk chicken, and tandoori

meh, i haven't worked a single day in the past 20 years.

must be 70

Literally rotten in the state of Denmark

With the influx of migrants, many of whom rely on welfare and social services, the financial burden on the Danish state has increased significantly. By delaying the retirement age, the government can ensure that Ethnic-European workers contribute to the workforce and tax base for a longer period, helping to offset the costs associated with supporting a larger migrant population. This move is a practical response to the economic pressures created by mass migration, but it also highlights the need for a more sustainable approach to immigration that prioritizes the interests and well-being of Ethnic-Europeans.

The white population is being forced to work longer to fund the people who are ultimately replacing them. This scenario underscores the broader issue of cultural and economic displacement that occurs with mass migration. Ethnic-Europeans are not only diluting their cultural identity but are also shouldering an increasingly heavy economic burden to support new arrivals. This is a classic example of how uncontrolled immigration can undermine the social and economic foundations of a nation. It's essential for us to advocate for policies that protect the interests of Ethnic-Europeans and ensure that our nations remain sustainable and true to their heritage.

I wonder how murican socialists who fetishize nordic countries would feel about working till they're 70

good

what's the average life expectancy for a man?

You can retire whenever you want like just stop working LMAO.

Thats not hoe it works, its retire at 70+, probably 90 soon, and import unlimited shitskins.

No goyim, you cant retire

You don't need to abandon pensions, just send the pensionees to the front line and pump them full of covid boosters.

Smart Danish guys take their "pension" in their twenties/thirties neeting it up.

I feel like retirement age should decrease with as shitty as the modern workplace is. THERES just no way I could make it to 70. I’m not sure I can make it to 50 without having a nervous breakdown.

Disband pension system.
Take away women's rights.
Ban abortion and divorce.
There, I solved all problems for the West.

How... have you seen who runs Europe ?
We are fucked

Absolutely based.

We can have immigration AND socialism because we aren't racist like those backwards Americans, chud!
ACK

So what are we supposed to do? There's literally nothing anyone can do to increase or reverse birthrates.

Make more white babies. Ban abortion. No taxes for a household that has 2 or more kids. Legalize polygamy for a max of 3 wives. Kick out migrants.

Literally just don't send women to university. Education is the biggest depressant of birthrates we know of and every Western country is going all-in on giving it specifically to women.

Denmark has less non-western immigration than almost any other Western country

The Finnish retirement scheme is a huge Ponzi scheme.

kek
I hope all the boomers voting for this shit end up in a home with migrants caratakers and get a taste of their medicine.

Wrong graph

germany will too. there was also a discussion about a "flexible retirement age", so that people who want to keep working don't have to stop at all. :^)
and that's why i'm leaving this shithole. goymany is a good place to live when you're an illiterate thirdie who wants to leech off of welfare for life. it's no place for people who want to work hard to better their lives and build families.
see, from the leftie POV, there is no difference between an ivy league stem PhD and an illiterate afghani serial kiddie rapist from some backwater village in the afghan mountains. they are both the same according to leftists, because theoretically, the afghan could one day decide to change his violent ways and become a great engineer or whatever.

The Finnish retirement scheme is a huge Ponzi scheme.

Every retirement scheme is a Ponzi scheme

what is capital funding vs pay-as-you-go?

das right

It will be raised to 75 at some point and then to 80

At this point what;s the point of retirement funds? just save money yourself

this

Government should build homes and give them to people

didn't Denmark crack down on immigration though? I think if anything it's the other way around, not enough young people

They all are by design. It's a pyramid that relies on scamming new people out of their money.

Firstly, let's compare the populations. The Netherlands has around 17 million people, while Denmark has about 6 million. Now, let's consider migration. If both countries accept the same number of migrants, say 50,000 per year, the impact will be much greater in Denmark due to its smaller population size.

In Denmark, 50,000 migrants would represent about 0.83% of its population per year, while in the Netherlands, it would be about 0.29% per year. To feel the impact more clearly, let's look at cumulative effects over time.

After 20 years, Denmark would have accepted around 1 million migrants, which would be about 16.6% of its original population. Meanwhile, the Netherlands would have accepted the same number of migrants, but that would represent only about 5.88% of its original population. This difference is significant and highlights how a smaller country can be more vulnerable to the effects of migration.

Now, imagine these migrants have different cultural backgrounds, beliefs, and practices. In a short span of 20 years, Denmark could see significant cultural shifts, changes in social dynamics, and increased pressure on public services. The Dutch, while not immune to these changes, would experience them at a slower pace due to their larger population base.

"Socialism works". "Socialists care about people"

kekekekek and people claimed socialims work because look at le denmark chud!

I thought it was giving gibs to an unlimited number of immigrants, thanx for the correction

I used to hate AI posters but now I find them more helpful than four out of five retards posting on Anon Babble.

Europeans are retarded they'll forget about it and just go back to talking about america all day. Whites are cattle.

They need that money to pay for the "new" Danes. You have to keep working, lol.

anything to not raise taxes on richfags to fund them

this will increase suicide tourism in switzerland
people will just rather die earlier

someoens gotta pay for those nafris

In shitholes like Italy yes. In countries like mine or Denmark, no.

what is per capita?

Niggers lynch yourselves

What's going to happen when these government retirement ages finally hit life expectancy? Do they really think people are still going to tolerate paying in? It's theft now but it becomes indisputable theft even to retards at that point. It seems like these neoliberal slave systems are hitting their breaking points.

I agree, we should work for the jew masters until we die.
And don't worry, we have enough daycare work in the government. Picrel.

They must not want to pay anything and want cheap wageslaves.

The kind of tired dying wont fix

It's funny now that the EU realizes they're going to have to spend half a trillion euros every year on their own defense instead of being useless leeches off US security guarantees, suddenly all the "free" things, like early retirement, health care, and university educations, are on the chopping block. It's almost like the US security guarantees is what made European socialism "work", and without them the EU is just a shithole full of old white people who hate themselves a millions of niggers and sand people slowly destroying their cities. But that can't be right because smug Eurotrash 20-somethings insist it's the better system...

What's really happening here is pension fund managers trying to maintain bonuses

What they mean is that state pension will be phased out. Usually these places have mandatory private pension enrolment too.

No one is forcing you to work at any age if you can afford not to.

Lmao, you mutts are so retardedly deluded it's funny

Literally cut taxes and let every individual handle their own retirement fund. You are not going to come out of the inverted population graph with socialized pensions, but at least my way you don't have to pay for the retards too stupid to manage their own money.

We do both anon

Im already retired

Lol theyre gonna keep increasing it until its 100+ zoomies are getting scammed hard

most people don't even make it to 70

USA please go and stay go. No one threatens Europe. Your empire and protection racket is simply fading away.

How is it not? You should manage your own money. If the government takes it from you it's a scam.

How is this deluded? Israel is in the same situation. It's bullshit, but it isn't delusion.

My retirement plan is downsizing from a large house in a desirable part of the city. They arnt making these houses anymore.

Based, work is fake and gay.

The joke is that all the politicians can retire with a very lucrative pension payed by people with actual jobs, while masons and Carpenters are somehow required to work until they are 70, which is impossible because
1. They cant
2. Nobody is going to hire a 65 year old carpenter because why in the fuck would they

Its literally just the politicians doing mental gymnastics to send some kind of a message nobody gives a shit about, its just straight up symbolic politics with absolutely no meaning to it.

Why would they start a war when they can infiltrate and kill you from within, Europe is dead it will be all Muslims within 50 years.

They will just eliminate state pension. People can still retire whenever.

He's talking about per capita precisely, retard >In Denmark, 50,000 migrants would represent about 0.83% of its population per year, while in the Netherlands, it would be about 0.29% per year.

After 20 years, Denmark would have accepted around 1 million migrants, which would be about 16.6% of its original population. Meanwhile, the Netherlands would have accepted the same number of migrants, but that would represent only about 5.88% of its original population.

That's 0.29, 0.83, 16.6 and 5.88 per 100 capitas.

But he didn't say "per capita"

Dumbfuck

I've got 50 years more than white Americans? Sweet.

Government doesn't take it for itself though
You pay an amount a, then your employer pays 2a so you'll end up with 2a times months worked at the end of it all
It's sustained by global yields and roi, mostly. Not muh young people. that's you, with your pay-as-you-go system (which only covers the bare minimum of state pension in our countries)

Arbeit Macht Frei.

you dont need a increase in birth rates it will just lower to the level that it sustains itself and that is ok

I'll bet they said the same in Weimar Germany.

Same shit. You don't own the money until you retire. It's a scam.

Another retard thinks when I write

Denmark receives fewer non-western immigrants than any other Western country

I HAVEN'T corrected for population size
Now this is dunning-kruger holy shit. You're all barely a notch above niggers, intellect-wise

youtube.com/watch?v=WRsxmqVjg3Y

you are making the situstion worse by importing people who dont pay into the system but only take out of it you collapse it faster than in any other way

We generally retire pretty comfortably because of this system. you on the other hand, will be fucked

Not even in Weimar Germany were they replacing Germans with Africans..

I thought they brought in all the arabs and africans so they wouldn't have to do this.

I agree America is Europe's daddy. "But muh healthcare". Anyone who brings healthcare as argument hasn't been to a public hospital in ages. They just follow eachother like sheep, no individual thought. Socialism at it's finest.

Yeah good idea!!
Also block all the gibs to other country’s.
It makes them weak.
It raises there expectations and makes them weak.
So go find the billions your war costs somewhere else. And then the retarded Dutch government can use the gibs money for the ukraine for something else.. like pensions for the Dutch..

we retire at 70 too. Thats why I dont pay taxes.

What in your post implies that you did though ?

Work is alright but slavery is something else.

If you can't do anything with it it's not yours. Can you use the funds to buy bitcoin when you're 25?
The money isn't yours. It's a scam. Cope all you want.

b-but you have it worse!

Beyond the point. Cope more.

Yes the situation we are in now is so dire it's on a whole other level with decades of intense brainwashing and miscegenation but even back then the cities were flooded with foreign vagrants just mostly from Eastern Europe and of course the heebs. Where there is a will there is a way. You just have show people there is a better alternative and it's not evil to want the best for your own.

Military, government jobs, cops, firefighters, etc can retire after twenty years at any age. Theoretically at 38 years old, leaving the taxpayers having to give them 2/3’s -85% of their paycheck for longer than they have even lived yet. Often 2500-10,000 dollars a month. Could be 40-50 years.

It’s funny how cops, feds, teachers, glowies and everyone else who shames the fuck out of everyone else would literally burn this country down if their pensions were threatened.

Amazing that people who love their pensions so they can actually enjoy half their short lives on this earth, don’t want anyone else to have the same benefits. Or even recognize that brick layer whose body is destroyed at 50 years old doesn’t want to work another 20 years as a walmart greeter, so he can finally get retirement once he gets to his nursing home.
But without cooks, bricklayers, baristas and trashnen, then the ones with taxpayer funded pensions would be shit out of luck.

With AI cruising to take 50% of human jobs in the next 10 years humans are going to have to get over their seething about neets and average joes wanting the same things as everyone else.

And politicians and people like military people and cops should have to accept the same benefits as everyone else.

Wanna see problems in the world fixed like prisons, housing, healthcare?
Then make sure the richest and most powerful experience the conditions and services they shame the poor into being satisfied with.

And people are running out of time. Very soon if even at all, it may be too late already, we the people will have to demand the conditions of the country we want to live in.
And violence isn’t even necessary. All it takes is witholding what they can’t live without. Money.

Nobody in a whole state pay their rent for 60 days or 6 months till rents go down to pre-covid levels.
If we keep letting our rulers get richer by fucking us over, why would they stop?

Need to raise it to 95 so Mohammed and Tyrone can relax. If you’re black, you can relax. If you’re white, gotta work until midnight.

Can Danes retire sooner if they want? I know they likely cannot save their own money for retirement because of lol taxes but here in the US people can "retire" as early as 50 in the right circumstances

FUNDS are SAFU

I posted

Denmark has less non-western immigration than almost any other Western country

Given Denmark's tiny size, to even assume I'd be retarded enough not to account for population size with this statement, you have to be a massive, barely sentient retard
Yes, that's you
If it were mine, it would be 66% smaller as my employer wouldn't have doubled my own investment every month, and neither of us would have done so at reduced tax rates

That's what happens when you refuse to breed.

Have sex. Your parents did it. You can do it too.

well someone has to pay for mohammed junior and it sure aint gonna be mohammed senior, he needs bennies too! GET TO WORK

Question: If the majority of immigrants coming to Denmark the last 5 years are from Muslim countries, would you think that the birth rate of the immigrants will exceed the birth rate of Danes because of cultural differences?
I know a UK think tank predicts that Muslim babies will outnumber British babies in 2040.

they can fuck right off, ill prove to them im not build for that shit

to even assume I'd be retarded >you have to be a massive, barely sentient retard

Kek, retard

didn’t Denmark crack down on immigration though?

The first wave of endless Muslim hordes flooded us in 1967 (58 years ago!), and they and all their offspring for 4-5 generations are STILL here - it doesn’t help much to crack down on letting such non-working luxury leeches in 40 years later.

This is why paying into retirement is a scam in and of itself. 19k a year from me and my employer goes to it lmao. It's useless.

Is that automatically deducted from your checks?

If the majority of immigrants coming to Denmark the last 5 years are from Muslim countries

They aren't, not even close

Muslim babies will outnumber British babies in 2040.

Britain is a different case than Denmark as its PER CAPITA non-western immigration is far higher

lol, sucks to be them. Such socialist losers.

Bro you will have to work until the day that you die and they will toss you in a mass grave like a ukrainian or whatever. Smh i wouldnt wish your future on my worst enemies.

That is assuming you make the same investments. Which is stupid since you have no control.
But the point here is that it's not your money. It's a scam. How many fucking times do I have to repeat myself?

When they go on about muh healthcare, muh vacation days (like we don’t have any and most don’t have unlimited), muh education, they forget this one tidbit:
Americans will retire by age 45-65, depending on occupation. Only the lowest class failures work for life.
Europeans won’t retire until their 70s-80s. There’s no way to other then when the government says so because income is so low private investment can’t be made. The socialist welfare policies they do brag about are also on chopping block due to need for independent military funding, so either they go or taxes and income garnishment go up and make it more impossible to retire until state says so.

Proof that Americans unironically think you exist to work and should do it until you die from old age. There's no joke here. That is genuinely how they view the world.

That is assuming you make the same investments.

No, it's not. Read it again
Holy shit you're all illiterate niggers itt

if things go wrong, crime is always an option so you can get a nicely furnished prison cell

The phrase "Tanskan malli" is already so common here/the Danish model. They'll hit us with a double whammy of mass-Pajeet migration and work-till-death and death-shall-set-you-free.

Denmark doesn't accept immigrants. That is why Social Democrats are still popular in Denmark unlike in Sweden. Being leftists is not guaranteed that you are pro immigration by any means. It is just culture I assume. Denmark didn't have any notable colonies either. But Sweden should have followed Denmark since they are the same culture, something wrong happened in Sweden for some reason

Americans will retire by age 45-65, depending on occupation.

Kek, it's good your flag says you're a congenital retard, otherwise you'd be straight up lying here

a Brit wholly unaware of the array of retirement accounts Americans can have so they don't have to work until lunch on the day of their funeral

How are those public pensions looking, Nigel?

Spend time writing a well written response

Use open-source grammarly alternative to correct grammar and spelling because why not.

Get called AI

It is not my fault other people do not put effort into writing reply's.

something wrong happened in Sweden for some reason

Yeah, and it's called Bonnier

breaking point

Boomer "logic". The bulk of Americans millennial onward are wise to this nonsense.

No rest for wickeds.

Ultimately, where do you think companies get the funds to pay for your retirement funds?
The end user will always pay for stupid taxes and regulations.

401(k)

403(b)

457

Roth IRA

Traditional IRA

Simple IRA

all holding dividend-paying investments

Gee whiz, how on earth could anyone in this country retire before the age of 90?

Exactly. No pensions. Work for however long you want and retire on your own terms. We should grant 65+ unemployed people access to a soup kitchen at most, but the rest they have to figure out themselves.

Womyn will at least be able to go to the office to girlboss around and send mails and reject young men, so it was worth it. No stop looking at the aging population look how cool and badass she looks in that corporate skirtsuit!
On a non-ironical tone, I as an European I'm aware that will be my fate. I'll work to death, maybe one day in the office or wherever i'll just feel a sharp pain in the chest and drop dead. Will be for the best, I expect nothing from life at this point since our governments insisted on ruining every metric of happiness.
My only true cope is that biotechnologist faggots figure out how to extend life forever after we run out of migrants, but I know very well that will not happen.

You don't have unlimited vacation days, at least not paid ones. Western Europeans are entitled to 30 paid days off a year, my understanding is that's not a thing in America and instead its left to the company to decide who usually give you zero or maybe like a week if you're lucky.

it's complicated

simple, easy to understand graph summarizing the entire issue

The Economist

We had anti-immigration social-democrats back in the 1970s, it became such a massive issue that they split up. Then the anti-immigration (actual) socialists were vilified as nazis by the (((leftist press)))), while the globohomo champagne socialists became the biggest party
They ruled the country for three decades until they were obliterated forever because of this very issue

Ultimately, where do you think companies get the funds to pay for your retirement funds?

Mostly from Dutch productivity, which has been among the highest in the world for 600 years straight
You're still retiring at 64 on average, dumbass

I understand your frustration, brother, but we must not lose hope. Yes, it's true that currently, Europe is run by (((globalists))) and corporations that prioritise profits over the interests of Ethnic-Europeans. They have weakened our nations through mass migration, cultural dilution, and the erosion of our sovereignty. But this is precisely why we need to take control.

Remember, brother, history is not over. We can and will shape the future of Europe. We are not fucked; we are the solution. Our time is now, and together, we will rule Europe once again. Keep the faith, stay strong, and never give up the fight for our people.

Good luck in getting the cripples to work and finding a job for them, especially those that got the mystery juice clot shots, that now have brain fog, early onset dementia, joint mobility, heart, toothless, baldness, impotence, cancer problems and most not even 50.

Since the scamdemic, more people have become anti-work, no longer busting a nut over shitty jobs, deciding to live off passive income, low enough to avoid paying income taxes, and plenty of time to practice retirement.

Make having children mandatory for women, atleast 2 per woman. If you birth more you start getting tax benefits + other perks.

You're going extinct cuck

Many employers and even military will pension you out after 20 years and they force you out by 60. That doesn’t include if you invested yourself to retire earlier. If you are working past 65 when you get Medicare it’s considered working later then you need to
Meanwhile, 70 is actually considered on the low end for retirement age in Denmark. If you were born in the 90s the retirement age for pension is now 74 and this will likely increase
That you don’t even believe this can be real shows just how much your continent’s citizens are getting fleeced hard

So you think people exist to sit around doing nothing in their bedshitting years and that's an acceptable tradeoff?
The point is everyone is supposed to work a reasonable amount until they can't, and then it's really curtains for them.
Social security island pension is just a scam to pull money from your productive young people, the side effect is everything pretends retirement is when they'll finally be able to live, but they're already almost dead.
If you don't understand that I think you're supposed to find a good balance between work and life and be happy the whole time instead of paying into some endlessly-growing entitlement system, you might be stupid niggers

Who is going to pay for that? You? You complain about tax, then you also want high birthrates. Natalists are so braindead

>Mostly from Dutch productivity, which has been among the highest in the world for 600 years straight

Nice flowery way of saying you're paying for it.

Tax benefits if you have children

Nah let's stop with that faggotry. Hungary tried and women just would rather be broke than give birth. That doesn't fucking work in no place.
You put an enttry to basically most standarts of society. You put a minimum amount of children to enter into any workplace. Minimum two, and you become eligible for promotion from three and onwards. Otherwise they'll keep leaving it for later until they dry up and then cry about cost of living or some shit (ignore that in Africa they get like 7).

Who is going to pay for that

The children who grow up and start doing work

You don't have unlimited vacation days, at least not paid ones

No they are paid kek

Western Europeans are entitled to 30 paid days off a year, my understanding is that's not a thing in America and instead its left to the company to decide who usually give you zero or maybe like a week if you're lucky

This is correct but doesn’t indicate the realities. Companies can choose, but they need to provide adequate vacation time or they will either burn out staff or lose staff to competition that gives good amount. So you end up with a similar amount if not unlimited PTO, plus paid holidays. If not unlimited a month PTO is very usual

Based beggar

You aren't entitled to somebody else's labor, and thus society isn't entitled to anyone's labor. How others spend their time isn't your problem; if they want to spend it "lazing around" that's their business and none of yours. People who blab about how people "need to work" are just mad that others aren't working for free to prop up the state/corporations/imported browns, all of whom are conveniently excluded from "needing" to work. NEETing/passive income/Schwarzarbeit are the only moral paths in today's "society". "Work ethic" is just a PR rehash version of Arbeit Macht Frei written over all of society.

In a natalist society, which is also very close family-wise instead of the individualism demoralization psy-op we live in, a grandpa would be tended by the children he had and nurtured as it always has been. You didn't have any? Well, ask your boss to change the diaper since you decided to invest that much time on him instead of a family.

Yea right. So when you started working?

When i finished school and army

Having below 2.1 or whatever birthrate and your population still growing every year means your country is fucked.

most companies don't even want to hire anyone over 40, what do they expect 70 year olds to work at? isn't this a bit delusional?

People boast all sorts of memes like Americans stopping the payment of our defense or Muhammed needing a new BMW (though that's a part reality).

The real core issue is that our welfare model: State funded education & healthcare are crumbling under the real weight that is the demographic crisis. The average age of a Dane is 43, which in some countries might not be as bad if it wasn't that we have big state sponsored pensions too.

Whispers in the parliament about this core issue has been heard, but no one really wants to address it since the real consequences are a decade or two down the road so we just kick the can until we can't anymore and then we're FUCKED. Politicians can only strategize 4-5 years into the future (the next election) and thus we're steadily marching into this trainwreck. Because nothing is more unpopular than telling hedonistic boomers and the broader fag lover society that maybe we need to have a fundamental look at the way things are systemized.

the side effect is everything pretends retirement is when they'll finally be able to live, but they're already almost dead.

My dad was always one of those people who told me to look ahead, towards the pension, like him, a man who had always had an easy time working for the same company his whole life. But he was a functional alcoholic, so he got a heart attack less than a year before retirement. He did survive it though, but it showed how pointless that wait is.

All it takes is witholding what they can’t live without. Money.

Some kind of shadow economy using some other means of exchange could also work.

Because nothing is more unpopular than telling hedonistic boomers and the broader fag lover society that maybe we need to have a fundamental look at the way things are systemized.

Man this is the crux of the issue. You can't outvote the boomers because of declining birthrates. Boomers want mass immigration to prop up their pensions (the only pensions) and property values. They see the entirety of humanity as sacrificial as long as their conveniences don't stop.

Average GAYRAPEAN pays about 25% of income into pension fund. The average life expectancy is ~80 years, pension age ~67 years, and 40 years of work. Without interest it just barely does not cut it, and with interest it there should be enough money for the pension age of 60-65 years without resorting to a ponzi scheme.

Democracy is fundamentally incapable of eliminating government gibsmedat programs. Democracy primarily survives by bribing its own citizens.

two political candidates for office

Candidate A wants principled and responsible spending that prioritizes only essential government functions and cuts welfare programs that enable people to not work

Candidate B promises to give his voters infinite money and services via taxing the people his voters doesn't like

Guess which candidate is going to win office 9/10 times.

muh exceptions

muh anecdote

Retard
Americans will retire by age 64 on average, so not

between 45-65

as you retardedly wrote

70 is actually considered on the low end for retirement age in Denmark

Kek, pulled another one out of your fat brown ass

Nothing anyone can do will reverse birthrates

End equal rights and get women out of the workforce. This will also require an end to immigration, so single earner income can raise a family.

Eyup. Boomers are the main political power block.

They vote for policies that make the lives of the young miserable (high property prices, mass immigration, high pensions, welfare for elderly), which in turn means the youth won't get kids, which in turns make society older, which makes that block more powerful, reinforcing this "positive" feedback loop.

The old cannibalizing on the young and society until there is nothing left.

This isn't novel, this isn't unforeseen, but due to the inherent selfishness of humanity the ones that can do anything about it won't, and the ones who want to stop it can't.

Its inevitable, its just a question of finding ways to soften people up while they are paying peak taxes for boomers that largely retired in their mid 50s. They'll get there eventually. I'm thinking they may play the "national security" card or something. It is, for sure, a sign tapping kinda thing.
theguardian.com/money/2025/may/23/ludicrous-unfair-older-workers-react-pressure-delay-retirement

Good, fuck boomers. Lazy shits think they're gonna kick back and watch TV for the next 30 years while I foot the bill. Fuck em

One of the children on that bill is born in 2004.
The mother is born in 1992 so she was 12 when she had the first child with a guy born in 1982 who was 22 at the time.

NEETing/passive income/Schwarzarbeit

Only sensible way to go forward

You're supposed to die.

I could've told you that just by reading the names.

Russians have already considered that and result would be than all women packing their things and emigrate somewhere else.

jokes on you i am already retarded

Listen to this man. Qatar is probably the best country to live in after they murdered Gaddafi and reverted all his policies.

There's nothing wrong with a smaller population. Nobody thought that having the population in absolute terms of 50 or 100 years ago was a problem at the time, so fluctuating back to that wouldn't be a problem now. The only reason it's "bad" is because boomers want continual pop growth to prop up their social security/welfare/whatever they call it in your country checks. Thus they support illegal immigration, paid for my more inflation/debt. The problem is literally just boomers. The most important issue of our time is disenfranchising boomers, reducing boomer power, extracting wealth from boomers.

NEETs got the right idea, just milk the system and let it collapse on its own.

NEETing is a moral tautology. Either you NEET and drain a system that hates you, or you contribute to a system that hates you in order to fund NEETs.

Euro poors are retarded.

The truth is i work for a living because i would blow my brains out of boredom if i didnt. However i have no intention of working past 40 years old.

this isn't a bad thing when you live in a country with strong social services.
I see more Europeans vacationing in the USA than Americans.
Americans, ESPECIALLY middle class whites, are brain dead retarded to take part in this system of "get job, keep your head down and put on fake persona at work for thirty years, don't talk about politics, don't take vacation, finally retire then pack up and move to a completely new community so we can start living our real life as unbound retirees".
Those are the worst god damn people and I'd kill every single one of them with zero regrets.

boomers are 70+ already, genius

Ahmed and Jamal sleep all day in their free migrant houses with their 12 children

Sven has to work to the grave

I love this. No one but white people to blame.

highest in Yurope

So 28?

123879 hours in excel

Disband pension system

will i get a refund lol

The simplest grug tier solution but it would work. Most should be fairly simple single family prefab homes with a 100 year design service life, standardised to ~10 designs. For the terminal apartmentcucks a small portion of the builds can be medium sized apt buildings (fuck commieblocks). The government could subcontract the work to private companies and quickly get it through the permit and plot bullshit. Of course, this will never fucking happen since such a gov intervention would nuke the real estate market overnight and everyone with a trace of influence across the west is heavily invested into it. Its no longer a bubble if retirement funds are "investing" into real estate, resulting in new generations paying an ever larger portion of income for goddamn housing. Fucking perverse shit, and the cattle will never think twice about it.

I'd rather go with the fascists than becoming a cuck like you Euro poors

The government could subcontract the work to private companies and quickly get it through the permit and plot bullshit.

ok but this will just result in people farms

I'm surprised it's not already higher than that.
In the UK its gone to 68 now and 70 is sure to be the next step in a year or 2. Every couple of years now they will need to push it up a bit, while at the same time bringing in 1 million boatniggers or more per year (it was 1.2M the other year) to "boost the economy" (30% of them dont work).

So basically Middle Ages

Wouldn't it be a better idea to stop collecting money for state pensions, leave it at workers' disposal, and let people retire whenever they want, essentially abolishing the state pension system?

I prefer the Ceausist policies of banning abortion and contraceptives while offering incentives for mothers.

pension funds are major movers in the stock and bond market

maybe we should get rid of those too, idk

Not only Muhammed but Pedro, Luca and Giorgios need their NEET money.

The Nordic countries should just leave the EU. Form a new trade block maybe with Germany, Austria and Netherlands.

In Romania and probably in your country too the emergence of private pension funds is what lead to the accelerated collapse of the state pensions.
This and scumbag apparatchiks giving themselves obscenely fat pensions.

true true
I’m so happy I’m a permaneet at 41
It was all so tiring
I’m thinking of moving to Portugal, taking my welfare money with me
GOD I LOVE THE EU and the EEA

Exactly. We need less people and of better quality.
Overpopulation has made life unbearable.

The whole concept of retirement age started in Prussia in the 1800s and the age was set right around the average life expectancy.

How did you even arrive to such a point? I didn't imply anything dystopian or collectivist. The housing could be paid off interest free on a monthly basis. But I know I'm in the tiny minority for thinking residential real estate should not constitute a noticeable portion of a healthy futureproof economy. Most men today would not be willing to construct their own house like they did here 40 years ago, 40hr workweeks are standard and not 3 hour a day makework socialist bullshit. Because of this I don't see how say just loosening regulations would result in anything meaningful.

No. Stop kicking the can down the road. Someone's gotta give.

sounds like a scam desu

What's wrong with it if it works? We tried Liberalism and it failed.

Work till you Twerk

just give it a catchy name, euro poors will love it

Popular opinion is of no relevance in regards of societal practices.

i reconciled with the fact that i will never see a pension long ago

i think the government will use my pension to pay for my euthanisation

Ironically Socialist Romania had higher HDI in 1989 than our modern day Romania. If ain't broke don't fix it.

rather than reforming

They have no reason to. Things are going exactly as envisioned.

Boomers retired in their 50s. But to support their bloated medical bills and diapers supply everybody needs to suffer.

Every boomer should be left to die when they break hip

Go look at the greatest EU contributors, Sherlock.
Hint: Sweden isn't amongst them.

Because if you stay stuck in Middle Ages you become Afghanistan. It didn't work at all but you are right neither does liberalism. Just wait a little bit more for robots. Everything will be fixed

maybe afghanistan and its people will still be there long after we are gone

I had 4 kids, I can't afford a home, and the state can kiss my fucking ass. Just wait until I'm destitute, in my 60s, and have absolutely nothing left to lose.

She's probably his little sister, too

You will own nothing.
You will work until you drop.

And you will like it.

on the flip side if you had no kids you could afford an empty home

Hahahahahahaha!

Everywhere it will be like this, you will work forever with a "short work week " untill you die

Because if you stay stuck in Middle Ages you become Afghanistan

Good.
Precisely this The West is on a suicide path.

Easy solution. Cut off all medical care once you hit 65 years old.

Exact same here and based. It also forces you to look at what returns as an investment or holds value.
Most people will live the unexamined life when it comes to this because either they don't think or trust their own thoughts.

I believe you also had record numbers in orphans being abandoned. Literal africa tier politics having children you nigger nation run by commies cant even feed.

Yeah my 40 year mortgage would only take 30 years, for some shitty cubical flat that is overpriced 2500%.

We literally are. It was like the first year benefits recipients declined in Amsterdam and it was because all the people that came here in the 70s from ex colonies, Turkey and Morocco are now on pension benefits. They've been leeching off of Dutch people for a minimum of 40 years and they're not going anywhere. I had to move out of the city I was born in because it was too expensive to have a family there and all social programs have been depleted (you need to be on a waiting list for longer than 15 years to be able to live in a social house thats bigger than a hole and not in a ghetto in Amsterdam for instance)

The West

west is a direction, nothing more

you kids can look forward to 100 year mortgages

This.
lol and the public is starting to figure it out

I've already got my visa and passport situation sorted, I'm leaving this doomed shithole continent in the next few years.

Why aren't they producing anything then?

What happened here was Orban got into power back in 2010 and funnelled money from private pension funds to the "unified" state pension system so diligent goys wanting to prepare for their old days gotten shafted quite badly. Now we have private pensions again, but people are understandably reluctant to trust them with their money.

Do you know how it feels like to be old?

Romania under those commies had higher HDI than modern Romania. Stop talking about a country you have zero idea about or never lived globohomo.

multi-generational mortgages for a cuckbox commieblock apartment that was given to factory workers for free by the state council, how does it sound goyim? :)

You accept that it was stupid to believe infinite growth was possible, accept that the next decade or two will be harsh as you go back to a sustainable model while you wait for Boomers to die. But instead you'll continue to import retarded savages who will rape your daughters and wife

growing old and having kids are not sure to happen

but if both of these things happened to me
i would like my child to drive a knife through my heart before i become a total fool

What if you got old and some unlucky emergency happened, so you don't have money for retirement? Will you kys?

Sounds great, the problem is, you will start developing your first diaabilities and chronic diseases in your early 30's. And your cognitive funciton will drasticly decrease after 35. You will understand how fucking brutal aging is in your 30's.

You don't even have a retirement age so who are you to talk

Have you never heard of "Social Security?"
I know you have, because like all yuros you are 100% obsessed with the US.

the russian way is to drink a lot of vodka and take a long walk in the forest

You let old people unfortunate enough to not have family taking care of them die. Offer them euthanization so they can go out with some dignity. Any other solution just harms young people so you can slightly extend the lifespan of the elderly.

I can easily tell you never had a father figure.

I barely made the deadline with 2 months less

in mather rasha you are old if 30 ok

Retard gets a bullshit job because he is too stupid to do anything of value

he thinks this is what happens to everyone

neets who never held a job repost his retardation because that’s what they actually believe

Insane I actually share this space with actual midwits and neets, I really forget about it sometimes

That’s just you, I am 38 and never felt better
Vision got worse but that’s it, I also look older but that’s ok

If you spend your twenties fuck yourself with vodka.
I'm 38 and still in better shape than every zoomer around me

while offering incentives for mothers.

When you do this all you do is create a horde of worthless single mothers and criminal spawn. You give incentives to FATHERS, motherfucker.

literally nothing anyone can do to increase or reverse birthrates

source?

see Even the average Dane (scummy grouping of men and women, even though they differ radically in contribution) becomes a net liability around the age of 68 under your current system, and more than 10% of your population is now shitskin parasites. The population pyramid is inverted, and more young men become NEET with every passing year. Setting the retirement age to 70 isn't even close to enough to bridge the gap developing in public finances.

Boomers

Only 53% of babies born last year in Denmark where Danish. The birth rates here are fucked and we do take in a fair share of immigrants. They are already 10% of the country, not counting the newborns.
This is absolutely a problem that has to do with immigration.

Free people literally get to retire whenever they want. You're waiting for the government to tell you when it's ok? You've already lost.

ikr? they really got it all
childbride, incest, free infinite money

Ironically Socialist Romania had higher HDI in 1989 than our modern day Romania

under those commies had higher HDI than modern Romania

Why hello there Ivan from buckaresky oblast. Is this the new ziggerbot line?

neeting is boring

however, I plan to neet once I turn 40

make up your mind, libtranny

that only applies to thirdworld shitholes, like yours

Remove birth control from the shelves and have mother's pay 5% less tax per child.

And this is exactly why they must give up Greenland

What does the truth hurt (((globohomo)))? Go to (((Ukraine))) and help your (((friend))) and (((Soros))) and (((EUglobohomos))). 1989 revolution was funded by (((them))) and those so called "patriots" were globohomos and (((their))) dickriders. I hope you get raped by a (((transgay100gendersjew))) globohomo

Women don't care about taxes. They don't pay shit for taxes anyway. Women need to be told that it's okay to have children and they should be publicly shamed if they do not.

Happiest country in the world

Been a lie since you heard it the first time. My country has doctored its own statistics and coasting on global and public benefits. With Trump they're in a frenzy, because while our country's economy is in a vast surplus, that economy was meant for the politicians of the state, and not normal people. And I've personally never been happy in Denmark. In fact, I always felt my country has the most snobbish and idealogue assholes I've ever met. I've heard its worse in Sweden but that's the only real contestant. Happiness is only for the "enlightened" and those who count in statistics, not people that "don't matter". In that sense, Denmark was always a worse country than United States or even Britain.

I've personally never been happy in Denmark

Males don't need to be happy, but move here like I did and you'll be much wealthier and have more freedom. I'm Swedish and have many Danish friends here. If you have work-skills, you'll be like 3 or 4 times wealthier in America.

Where to?

Happiest country on the planet

I'm assuming recent doctors and engineers that have arrived that say, "ABOOBOOBOOBOOBOO" when they apply for their asylum claim will be exempt and can retire immediately?

Yes. Half of immigrant women are on early retirement and until recently, only close to 70% of immigrant men were employed.

Stop trying to bribe women to breed, it never works. You need to make it so that women have no other means of taking care of themselves (without resorting to prostitution) than marrying and birthing man's children.

This. Get to work, goy!

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ALL GLORY TO THE ONE TRUE GOD
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TAKE THIS FLESH
TAKE THIS BLOOD
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Should be able to retire early with 3 kids.

just got an email aobut a boomer who is 75 and still works for UPS making 150k a year

Millennials could not get jobs because of this shit
Zoomers have given up because of this shit
Gas the boomers and take back your future

53% of babies born last year in Denmark where Danish

Sauce on this?

we do take in a fair share of immigrants

Sure, the point is they are overwhelmingly eastern European

Retirement is a dead meme.
Work until you die.