Can US millitary beat China alone?

In before we knew french jets got taken down by the most basic Chinese jets in india-pakistan war. Now let's assume if this happened to US and China near south China sea. Besides chimping out by saying nukes each other, can US win a conventional war against China? We all know Ralafe is better than F-16, so it means J10c is better than F-16. Now we can also see how Chinese J20 can mog F35 in a combat even. Thoughts?

nobody cares about jets vs jets. chinks already have edge over yankies on heavy industry production

Putting figures on China's shipbuilding dominance over the US, an August 2024 US Congressional Research Service (CRS) report assesses that China has 230 times the shipbuilding capacity of the US, enabling it to have the world's largest navy

We have probably reached a point where neither side can decisively defeat the other it would just be stalemate forever

Just googled it, America has the strongest military in the world.

Yes we can glass everybody no problem. Why dont we though?

US can stalemate it because it still has better force projection. No one is really in a position to actually invade and decisively win either side.

This, America cannot get within 2000km of the Chinese coast, while China can't get anywhere near the open pacific

America lost to Vietnam and Afghanistan. No way they are beating a country with 1 billion people.

While Trumpler was reeeeing about Harvard and tariffs like an orange nigger, CGTN was posting about the Chinese space station.

i doubt it. In the future China will use space force that will eliminate the distance factor.

Nope.
CCP's military is built for one reason only.
Killing the United States.

they are going to take taiwan any day now and when they do the USA economy will crash from the disruption to the chips market. They are waiting for USA's weakest moment.

cia cope mode activated - they didn't build those billion dollar invasion barges to not use them

They just lost 3 jets against the Houthis who dont even have an airforce

you understand that's during peacetime right? if they were in a war those factories wouldn't exist after a week.

they're for taiwan dumbass. those big ass hunks of shit would be detected as soon they left the china coast line lol

if they kill the US, then who they gonna copy from in the future?

which will crash the US economy when it happens - everything is riding on fake as fuck AI and the tech sector

which will result in the US nuking China

Chinkland is a paper tiger.

Or Taiwan hitting the dam, killing millions of Chinese. And they will hit it, it's basically their number one option. China knows that, and will attempt to defend it, but Taiwan has 10-200 cruise missiles pointed directly at it, at least.
China knows it's better off using Taiwan as an infinite boogieman, like america with abortion and gun rights.

Now show us their naval cadets lmao.
You dont go from a landlocked nation with zero history of naval warfare to suddenly out sailing the perfidious Albion at sea. China is going to get their shit pushed in by American SSNs before the war even starts.

we'll see i guess. my prediction is that nothing happens during my lifetime

Ralafe is better than F-16

Doubt. US imo still has the air superiority but its production capability for naval assets is an entirely different story. The amount of VLS missiles, a primary naval armament, the US navy has currently is not even sufficient to resupply the entire navy once. China can manufacture ships and missiles far quicker than the US can.

They won't hit that dam, they'll hit a smaller, upstream one/s, which will cause a cascade failure all the way down the rivers, wiping out 50ish% of their farmland along with it.
Its Taiwans only real shot at deterrence so they'll shoot for that.
Don't bother, anyone quoting china's shipbuilding figures is ignoring the fact that China counts civilian shipbuilding too, including shit like fishing boats and dingies, actual military tonnage the US is and will dominate, even if just due to the super carriers. And even with the shitty figures, it'll still take another 20-30 years for them to catch up, assuming little to no growth.

Shoot dozens of missiles though 2000km of the most heavily defended airspace in the world

Yeah, good luck with that lol.

Theyll be set to skim either the rivers or land, likely only meters above, will prevent any radar guided defense from getting the majority of it, similar to the Tomahawks in desert storm, and yea realistically it'll be hundreds, and possibly joined by us air launched munitions.

That's not gonna work when it's for a target 2000km away, and in some heavy mountainous terrain at that and not for hundreds of missiles, the sheer amount of noise and heat that they will produce will give them away. Not to mention that China will have AWEC aircraft in the air by then. Also, to target the 3 gorges or the upsteam dams, those dozens/hundreds of missiles will be flying directly overhead some of the most densest populated cities on earth.

Again, 2000km range here, you're gonna need some high end cruise missiles for that kind of range, and even a supersonic missile will still take them an hour to actually reach the target.

B-21 raider was made to bomb china

isn't it funny how when talking about war between China and the US, the implication is always that it would be the US invading China, because of course China has no interest whatsoever in attacking the US. yet somehow, the burgers are convinced that China is aggressor. anyway, to answer your question: the US navy wouldn't last two days against China

They aren't capable of attacking the US lol

Taiwan doesn't have the B-21 though. Will America risk nuclear war for Taiwan? Also the B-21 is unlikely to take out the 3 gorges. It's large enough that you're likely gonna to need dozens of direct large missiles strikes to destroy it or a small nuke. A few bombers aren't gonna to carry enough payload.

Will America risk nuclear war for Taiwan?

Will China?

Does Taiwan have nukes?

irrelevant

China ofc can nuke the entire continent of north America if they want with their hypersonic missiles. Didn't Trump want to build golden dome for that? Who will win? The strongest sword or strongest shield?

Look at what China are doing in the South China Sea if you really think they dindu nuffin.

China lost to Vietnam and South Korea

They have a mix of US/Soviet design. But China is now making their own ideas and implementing it.
See J-36/J-XDs

They aren't capable of attacking the US lol

Says by you. In reality they can destroy the US within half an hour. It's not that hard.

idk, but china is absolutely seething about it

How do they do that?

PLEASE LET US NUKE YOU!

lol

Will America risk nuclear war for Taiwan?

Will America risk Nuclear war for Japan

Will America risk nuclear war for Hawaii

Will America risk nuclear war for West Coast

You do realize that China has Radars on the mountains of their coast right? So they can see over the horizon more. And they'll have hundreds of planes and drones to help along the AA.

The imbalance would increase even more during wartime you retard lmao, and the US would hardly be able to dent Chinese MIC capacity that's mostly deep into their hinterlands

massive industrial capacity

deep in the hinterlands

lol no.

Now show us how American orbital lift capacity absolutely destroys the dicklet ching chong capacity to put shit in space. Not only by tonnage, but by how large the individual payload can be. China is absolutely fucked in the ass.

That also means it takes longer for their war material to reach the battlefield, not as bad as the US of course but regardless the massive coastal Chinese cities would be defenseless and that is where most of China lives.

with hypersonic nuclear glide vehicles?

you are lifting junks into the space. That's nothing special. Can you land on dark side of moon even?

Your factory needs workers. Your factory needs good transport infrastructure to get the raw materials in and the products out. Your factory needs to be nearby a big power plant. "Massive industrial capacity" and "deep in the hinterlands" are mutually exclusive.

I said MIC, and yes. China's MIC is centered around Chengdu, heavy industry in general was transferred from Manchuria to the hinterlands by Mao. The coast is higher profit margin light industry.

And this stops the many thousands of nukes coming down from orbit how?

see

The Yellow and Yangtze rivers provide pretty quick transport for China's hinterland industry.

Firstly, US nukes don't come from orbit. Secondly, it's conventional nukes that can be intercepted. Sure you might have sheer amount of nukes launching once upon a time but doesn't China also have them after they collect those space junks out of orbit?

No because USA needs Australia/Japan/Philippines to even do anything at all in the region. If they can't even use the bases from Japan alone then there is no war.
USA is dependent on allies in the region. I suspect that Japan has a chance won't let the US use them but we will see.

Look at a map of Chinese rivers. Why are you even trying to argue this when you could also just look up where China's MIC/heavy industry is. Just look up the Third Front Movement.

Why not? America or Europe isn't putting on the ground in Ukraine because of Russia nukes.

A country that America doesn't even officially recognize?

I suspect that Japan has a chance won't let the US use them but we will see.

this was 12 days ago....

America lost to Vietnam and Afghanistan America has no military ability everything they use is designed, built, and shipped her by China. American engineers can't even figure out how to rebuild bridges America built just 100 years ago. America can't even build f-16 jets, effectively antiques but to Americans it's looks like something straight out of scifi novel because even the basic components to build are decades away from Americans being able to produce them. The only country America could be beat in war is maybe Vanuatu if the strategy focused on avoiding their military and instead attacked civilians. But American losses would be astronomical since Vanuatu is far stronger than American military. We had a good run. Lost the war for independence, lost the whiskey rebellion, lost the war with Mexico, lost wwi and wwii, lost Vietnam, desert eagle, desert storm, drugs, terrorism.
On one hand it's impressive, having a 100% loss rate for all wars we were involved in but we ntill exist as a puppet state for Israel but this can't last. America is a very weak country, militarily and economically. If America survives a war on home turf it will be in spite of our military. We have a lot of civilians with weapons, but the American military should be targeted first and foremost. When America is invaded in order for America to beat the invader every American soldiers must be defeated. Any country that invades would be relying on fighting us military, which even the Congo could destroy without breaking a sweat.

That will last until China gets reusable rockets later this year lol

lol he's kvetching about how China lost to Vietnam and south korea

Heavy industry and some nowhere village are mutually exclusive.

one American icbm from the 1950s they can't even maintain

Vs

six gorillion Chinese drones armed with cobalt or white phosphorus

This ain't David vs Goliath. China exceeds America by every metric hundreds of times over. It's a stale ladybug turd vs the entire pantheon. Americas greatest ally is someone who frequently and openly kills Americans while laughing about it. When you're only friend and ally is Israel(a much stronger country than America) you know you're in trouble, because every country in the world hates Israel and they are extremely weak aside from the Samson option.

This is full on retarded nigger tier imagination.

Americans tried to subvert china via democracy (the same way they subverted Ukraine)
It didn't work. But this was the best and only card they had in wahington dc.

A war via the Korean peninsula is not winnable.
A war in Taiwan will not defeat the mainland.
A war in Vietnam is also unwinnable.
A war in Chinese beach will be suicide.
A war via Ukraine->Russia-> China was tried, and failed.

You have a lot of power in your demonic embassy zones in Thailand, but the South East Asian countries grow stronger and stronger every year, there will b a limit to how much thy allow you to push them around.

The best option is actually just, sit down and acknowledge you are not the owner of the whole universe.

temu drones can fly to the upper atmosphere to stop nuclear explosions

Chinsects truly are the most delusional bunch

Americans tried to subvert china via democracy (the same way they subverted Ukraine)

It didn't work. But this was the best and only card they had in wahington dc.

this fat ass goblin of a jew is the only reason modern china even exists. chinks worship him. Xi especially.

Sounds like China just outjewed the jew. Skill issue really

So if China are just yellow Jews why is Anon Babble supposed to like them?

sounds like cope

The jets were piloted by low quality indians, all indian things are low quality including their pilots.

The anglo jew is still the super jew, you invented israel.

So China are our bitch then?

do you seriously think that the US cares about the South China Sea? or did you fall for the propaganda? either way, it's a sign of very low IQ. try to think more critically.

Buy an atlas retard.

If it was, then you wouldn't be seething so much.
So all indicators say it isn't.

Please link directly to a post in which I am seething.

If you were in control, then you should be happy. Why are you seething about war on Anon Babble?

Please link directly to the post in which I do that.

You’re delusional

All of your posts have you visibly in tears.

I see you have not actually got fuck all. How completely unsurprising.

bro you sound super mad lmao

China hasn’t won a war in centuries besides internal conflicts lol fucking bug useful idiot

Yes.

you sound like you're hitting on him. are all chinks gay?

There is no reason to b this angry.
Just sit down bro. Nobody actually expect you to control the universe, you can let go of those ambitions now.

Typical Chink. Living in our own fantasy land.

The US military is filled with losers who did not want to work at Wally World or Burger King. They will fold when they fight a par opponent and die en masse.

They used to cry about the recent wars against people with no modern weapons.

you too
Fucking trannies who think that just imagining something makes it true.

yes yes america will always win because they have the secret sauce. no matter if china has dominance in tech, industrial capacity and human resources. america will always win because the chinese are orcs and america is gandalf or some shit

The only thing China is dominant in is killing themselves because they can't stand their shithole any more.

The US was always going to fight China alone. Anyone who thought France or Germany would send more than a couple hundred people to sit in bases was delusional, look at Afghanistan, which was a very low intensity conflict.

t. Chink with a memeflag

the philipines are supposed to go to the meat grinder with japanese and korean support

You have to instigate a war soon before you become too brown and collapse from the inside.
The longer you take, the worse it will be.

You realise this would have me shooting you personally Chang?

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Tf

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Not a fucking chance

before you become too brown

Come on who are we kidding. Real Brits dont really have a dog in this fight, but seething pajeets on the other hand...

You need a loicense for that though.

Get the fuck out of Europe before then.

Chinks would win and I say this as a USAF veteran. Chinks have the longest range air to air missile right now and very capable jets. They can also make jets about 8x faster than we can.

But yeah the chink PL-15 is better than any US Air to air missile.

PL-15

That thing is like 10 yrs old, hence why its for sell.
The big boy is this
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PL-21

isn't it funny how when talking about war between China and the US, the implication is always that it would be the US invading China,

I'm noooooticing that too.
Th anglo menace has become desperate.

Hinterland doesn't mean some nowhere village, it means deep inland geographically.

nice larp. might work on the chinks in the thread.

Hinterland

hin·ter·land
[ˈhJntəland]
noun
the remote areas of a country away from the coast or the banks of major rivers

With this epic wunderwaffe we will end the war in 2 weeks guise!

How did that work in the Ukraine?

Depends if Japan and South Korea play along. If the US wants to beat China it has to move fast, in 5-10 years time they will be unbeatable. Could the US stomach losing aircraft carriers? Guam and Diego Garcia would be obliterated by ballistic missiles.

strawman garbage

implying US used bombers in Ukraine

you're gonna have to try harder than that

i think there is some aspect of weaponry that makes sea power completely irrelevant. Neither China or the United States are likely to reveal what their most powerful weapons are so it would be hard to say, but I would hedge my bets on the United States. Oh No! China can build more massive slow moving targets that can sit out exposed in open sea!!! Also the figures for china's navy are massively inflated because they require commercial shipbuilders to build their ships to certain military specifications- like the tensile strength of their decks and stuff like that. They consider these vessels when they publish figures. Cutting edge tanks and armored vehicles are getting vaporized in Ukraine by drones. I wonder how a ship thats an eighth of a mile long sitting like a duck in the sea would do against a drone swarm. I dont think the United states would let china outpace their shipbuilding capabilities if it were truly essential for modern warfare.

This is the reality Americans don’t want to face. Our infrastructure falls apart more and more each day due to the competency crisis stemming from third world immigration. All the high tech weaponry in the world doesn’t mean anything without competent white people running things. Every day that passes our fighting force diminishes both in actual number and in willingness to fight for a country that no longer represents them. If china is smart, they’ll just do nothing and wait until we’re Brazil. At that point we’ll be so irrelevant they won’t have to fight a war with us at all. They likely know this. The American empire is over, there is no way to save this nation without expelling non whites, and we don’t have the balls to do that. It will be a slow decline into irrelevance. Couple more decades at most.

Ukraine is a bullshit jewish proxy war that's never intended to end. Ukraine would be over in days if either the west or Russia got serious. Have you seen the makeshift vehicles they drive around in to combat drones? It's like a fucking comedy skit out there.

...Do you think that Russia is hiding a load of tanks somewhere and is going to war on scooters by choice?

I wonder if any of those Area 51 alien tech planes are still relevant 70 years later, or if they’re still progressing in that field? Not much has been heard about that stuff in a while. Maybe that’s why we stopped building the f22, we know we have these things locked up in Nevada somewhere if shit gets real so it just isn’t worth building more expensive conventional aircraft. It’s a cool thought. After the shit in Hawaii it’s pretty obvious we have direct energy satellite weapons now, unfortunately we only seem to use them on our own soil to kill Americans.

Why do you think the Chinese government cares if millions of civilians die? The same government that killed tens of millions of its own citizens. Think like a bugman. They have over a billion people, they can spare a million or two no problem.

One bright side to ww3 is we’ll probably get to see some wild military tech that the public has never seen before, lol. Maybe we’ll see trump get in a metal gear and go fight china himself.

Well, yes. They most certainly are hiding their power level.

A load of tanks wouldn't change anything. Tanks were invented 100 something years ago to solve a problem that no longer exists. I believe that if the west or Russia wanted to, they could wipe ukraine off of the face of the earth and stick their flag in it when the smoke clears. But neither of them are doing that because its a fake jewish proxy war made to launder money and prop up the military industrial complex.

You realise that we can see their fields full of tanks in storage from space and that they are empty?

Getting shot on a battlefield is a problem that no longer exists? Fucking hell retard.

They have over a billion people

Do they really? The only source for China’s population being 1.4-1.5 billion is China itself. No other source has ever verified this claim.
youtube.com/live/gsIg-_5Yl_8
youtu.be/n3zhCCCYVeA
youtube.com/live/aFbMWq-xvXU
youtu.be/n3zhCCCYVeA

But then it is very likely that the US's factories would have met the same fate. And since the manufacturing capacities differ so much it would China in an even greater position

Anon wake up it isn’t 2021 anymore

he doesn't know about underground storage

he doesn't know about warehouse storage

Do you really think militaries just leave all of their top tier hardware outside in the elements year-long?

Kind of, yeah. Look at the video of the icbm attack from Russia. Had those been nuclear armed that would have been the end of the fight, and of Ukraine. The powers that be have decided that this meat grinder is profitable somehow and that’s why it continues. What other explanation is there?

Russia do.

Youre retarded. The us is already around 500 km of Chinas shores and already has a large presence in the area

But then it is very likely that the US's factories would have met the same fate.

how?

Tanks are obsolete because nukes exist

Fuck off retard.

Yeah i mean the way I see it, america has been loaded with a massive kike military budget since the 40s. China was still a 3rd world country up until the 90s. If we think about the amount of time america has had to develop crazy ass skunk works shit compared to china, the argument becomes pretty one sided. Not saying that china hasnt made massive strides within the last few years, but I'm pretty sure the US has had UFOs and direct energy weapons since the 80s lmao.

Ok, you go ahead and believe that. I guess they aren't really a threat to Europe then eh?

lmao silly chink

Isn’t it crazy how our economy is centered around this like vaporware garbage now. Facebook is like the biggest company in America now. What do they produce? Dots on a screen where boomers look at computer generated pictures of cats. Fucking clown world.

Far less of one now that most of their military is a burning wreck in a Ukrainian field. They will make more eventually, but for now they do not have the forces to threaten NATO.

The us marines alone beat the shit out of china

Well I suppose the argument would be they’re irrelevant now because drones exist. But yeah wasn’t that the conclusion of the Cold War? In a peer to peer war between superpowers we just nuke each other and destroy the earth in a couple of minutes? They’re only relevant in these little proxy skirmishes that last twenty years that amount to nothing but profit for the mic, like Ukraine now, the war on terror previously.

you won't be alone, brother

How is America supposed to strike deep into China? And you do know the scale we're talking about here? There's millions of factories in China, America literally doesn't have enough cruise missiles to take even 1% of them out.

You realise that the only drone videos you get shown are the ones where something happens? Where they actually hit something and not just run out of battery or whatever? They are not the invincible superweapon you think they are.

a lot of the fighting would take place there. in a war the usa is going to completely blockade the malaca straight which sees over half of china's trade including their oil imports. the usa is going to force china to split its forces to secure the straight while getting attacked the entire way there. immediately china is going to have to split its forces or suffer a defeat through attrition

the conversation was about shipbuilding and you are trying to turn it into something else. are you implying that China is going to build ships deep within the country and teleport them to the coast?

top tier maybe not but they kept most of the older tanks at open air

Well in regards to the satellite weapons in particular, Reagan was talking about it in the 80s so we’ve probably had them longer than that lol. And I think it’s public knowledge now that all of the Area 51 sightings were in fact experimental air craft, so yeah, I’m in agreement. I’m sure we have some insane shit hidden ten stories underground in the high desert somewhere waiting until it’s needed. The question is, will we still be competent and white enough to use any of it when the time comes? I suspect china can see that as our country continues to deteriorate, it’s in their best interest to sit back and watch instead of openly challenging us.

You ever heard of the Wuhan shipyard? More than 1000 miles from the coast and one of China's biggest shipyard

Beat how? Describe the win parameters? Destroy all their current hardware in a 1v1? Absolutely. Maintain a sustained war of attrition? Not even close they could outbuild us like the USA outbuilt Germany in WW2. However, over a long enough time with international support and us ramping up full production? We would destroy China but it would take prob 20 years. Nukes negate this whole discussion anyways

It doesn't matter how many run out of battery or whatever. If one dies, you can send out 400 more. In Ukraine the drone tech we are seeing are commercial grade drones rigged with explosive devices. We haven't seen the cutting edge shit either china or the United States have up their sleeves in that regard.

Jewsa recently lost to yemen

they're a threat because they have nukes and known to develop biological and chemical weapons. russia is is an incompetent country ran by idiots and their military is no different. i guess being russian you take what you can get though

Even if china was able to land on our beaches, bro you could bring 500million chinks here and give them each a gun and they would get stacked like firewood by our citizens, not even our army. Rooftop koreans alone would hold the line until cletus and co showed up. I am unironically talking 50:1 KDA

The point is that you have a biased view of their effectiveness. You believe that every drone hits every target because that is all you get shown. In reality for every hit there are 100 that miss, but those you never get to see.

However, over a long enough time with international support

From who?

I was a Firecontrolman in the Navy(Aegis/Tomahawk) the idea that they are getting that fucking thing within 10 miles of the beach without it getting sunk is laughable even by chink cope standards

insurgency and conventional warfare are the same

retard

Putler is going to roll across yurope if we don't spend billions

Ziggers ride scooters and fight with shovels

Pick one you lying sack of anglo shit

Correct and the PL-21 was what I was referring to. It is early here and I hadnt had coffee yet.

hinterland
noun
hin·ter·land ˈhin-tər-ˌland
-lənd
Synonyms of hinterland
1
: a region lying inland from a coast
2
a
: a region remote from urban areas
b
: a region lying beyond major metropolitan or cultural centers

Nice cherry picking the second definition

I don’t think they’re an invincible super weapon, and I’m not like a Anon Babble expert or anything, but it seems the dynamic is that drones are dirt cheap and you can build ten thousand of them for every tank, or plane, or ship or whatever and swarm the enemy. So if one misses you just send another hundred. I doubt Russia is sending out their best tech but we’ve all seen the images of Russian tanks with bits of chain link fence wrapped around them as drone armor so they’re obviously effective against tanks or the tank crews wouldn’t be concerned. Wasn’t the consensus that we moved our aircraft carrier out of the Red Sea because of the drone threat recently?

I think we imported all of those shitskins to prop up our social security and to create a new lower class, not because we wanted to hire them to be in charge of our military secrets.

Can US millitary beat China alone?

No it cant and chink jets will be a 2ndary problem, the primary problem will be chink cruise missiles that just wont stop coming. Eventually the US is going to run out of surface to air missiles and then USN and US army and USAF will have to withdraw from any base within missile range. Then the chinks move in and launch their missile spam from a forward position.

These days America is more of a loose cannon than Russia. But I digress, shouldn't we first go after Pakistan, India and Israel for having nukes? Surely those three countries are far more likely to be irresponsible with nukes than a country like Russia?

who said the usa needed to? as i said previously the usa blocks off the malacca strait and now china has no more oil imports and is forced to divert a large force to secure the strait

So why then are tanks somehow obsolete if they are not this invincible superweapon?

but i le digress

you're such smelly shitskin nerd. russia is the one invading europe and threatening nukes and shit

you recently lost to jewsa

Remember when you kept talking about rivers retard?

This is a very solid prediction for what would actually happen. I wonder how long the US Carriers would last in the pacific desu.

Im not saying they are super effective, I'm saying they're cheap and there's a billion of them. Also, the ones we see in ukraine miss their targets. I would bet the US and China have both developed much more advanced and capable systems that would make Ukraine drone warfare look like clubs and shields.

NATO is the one pushing Russia into a corner. NATO started the war and they've done nothing but fuel the flames. Why don't you answer my question?

RPGs are cheap and there's a billion of them. Tanks were not suddenly made obsolete by this fact.

i think the Rus and CCP had a long term plan to degenerate the USA (mostly kgb) and have been nudging the jewish degeneracy along at every opportunity - they know what they are doing and it has worked

In a peer to peer war between superpowers we just nuke each other and destroy the earth in a couple of minutes?

it's not that simple to use nukes. The entire world will judge the country that uses them so it's a exponential risk multiplier to be the first one to use them again. The USA had complete military hegemony last time they were used on humans - that does not exist anymore. Ukraine vs Russia has been textbook example on how nukes don't always matter.

memeflag came to Anon Babbleope about losing to yemen

Lol lmao, predictable
The real problem is that any war between china and jewsa will be next to china and logistics is king of all warfare.
Burgers will have to supply shit by carriers and if they get taken down, they will be fucked very quickly. While china can have a similar problem if the war extends further from their waters, any logistics line is way shorter than the burger's and china still may not need carriers for that.
In any case, if burgers lose a single carrier, they will be fucked because sending another one would take time, enough for it to be decisive.

The area that would be flooded by not just hitting 3 Gorges, but also hitting dams upstream of it, will be significant. 1 to 2 million? Try 100 million to 200 million...on the low end. What you have to remember about about China is that most of their country is empty, they heavily inhabit their eastern seaboard.

no, russia is the one attempting to overthrow countries then when their puppet gets ousted starts invading the country instead like in ukraine. nato expansion has always happened after russia invaded another country first. this is a fact. you're not here for discussion, you're here to shill russia. kill yourself, shitskin propaganda for the masses. russia wanted a warm water port in order to stage future invasions of europe

But drones aren't RPGs? Do you have down syndrome?

China lost against vietnam twice and it was after we had already left. you retarded chink deceiver.

A drone is an RPG strapped to a toy retard.

it's not the Jews who run our country who are destroying our country from the inside, it's the Russians and Chinese!

absolute glownigger.

You just love tanks huh? What’s your favorite anon?

Russia is dismantling the puppet regime in Ukraine.

nato expansion has always happened after russia invaded another country first.

Which country did they invade before the baltics joined?

It was just a 1 month dispute over some minor shit in Cambodia. Not a real war.

The Challenger 2.

No one is trying to take your tank anon

Chinese bombers have flown literally near to the coast of California.

you thinking the USA will escalate and start a 3rd fucking war over taiwan is EXTREMELY TALMUDIC - those barges can deliver the entire army in one night. You will need submarines there patrolling nonstop to keep it from happening which as an ex-submariner i can tell you with certainty IS NOT GOING TO FUCKING HAPPEN

go be a fucking jew shiller somewhere else, stupid fucking boomer kike

none of them read ANYTHING - they are reddit nigger narcissists

So what’s going to happen when they make up 80 percent of the country? That will happen within decades, anon. What do you think we’re going to have a permanent white upper management in the military, an apartheid state? They will outvote white people and they will install themselves in all positions of power, that has already happened to a great extent and when the boomers die in ten years white people will be a firm minority in America. Importing brown people is an extinction level mistake.

again, ukraine ousted yanukovich who was a russian puppet attempting to sell out the country to russia. if ukrainians actually wanted that they wouldn't be fighting and defeating russia right now. your fantasy doesn't match up with reality

also russia invaded chechnya twice you stupid fucking faggot. they got humiliated and suffered a major military defeat the first time like what has happened in ukraine. the second time they just massacred all the civilians and gave control to the local warlrod that they pay off billions per year. russia is a cuck state

we watched them take off, and had a firing solution on them the second they got within range.
no point starting a war just because some flyboy wants to play chicken.

It would be everything on the table assault

Rods From god destroying key infrastructure sights
Power plants
Population hubs
Ports
Communication hubs.

China would be cut off from the world
There wouldn’t be any social media Reddit post
China has mimicked our army that we had 50 plus years ago

nudging the jewish degeneracy

your jewish spam is so fucking low effort

Gone within a day

no. the united state military would have a nervous breakdown and start crying the millisecond shit got real. they'll rape one woman as a hostage, she'll like it, be really confused and talking on camera, (rather than torture and kill her like they did her male copilot), and the entire united states military will fall apart mentally in a matter of hours if not minutes. they are not equipped to handle that. they will be mind fucked so hard they won't know what to do.

the chinese army will have confort women for the men, and the american army will be a bunch of dude's jacking off before sgt. becky (half black, half mexican, all tranny) yells at them to get ready to die. usa doesn't stand a fucking chance.

muh big sticks from space

let me tell you about the True History according to the Kyiv Independent

kys kike

Don’t need to invade
Nothing of value there

Completely wipe out the infrastructure
Block it off from the world
They can’t even feed themselves now
Add destruction of every port, power plant and military complex and it will descend into chaos and self destruction

Hungry human's are scary

Theoretically the US military can eliminate the PLA as the PLA isn’t really a combat organization. BUT!! The organizational overhead for such a large-scale operation may be too much for the US today. Competency crisis. The US may not be able to replicate the Gulf War today due to the competency crisis for example. There’s a reason why the US hasn’t gone to war in over a decade in spite of perfect reasons to do so. For example the Houthis would have been regime-changed without question if it were 20 years ago.

Completely wipe out the infrastructure

There is going to b retaliation, they don't have to be nice about it, thy know who the culprit is.
Europe will also fall.
This is where your plan stutters.

Everyone's laughing until they aren't

1- I am not happy about importing niggers
2- I am happy about the missiles
3- I would not fight for the globohomo
6- I think your fantasy situation where all the Chinese people get together and fight the all white people with guns in china is funny. I also think that you probably have a small skull.
7- I dont have anything to fight for... I hate the niggers..but guess what! It doesn't matter! because drones and hypersonic missiles dont have feelings!
8- there are plenty of competent people left
9- this weird cuck scenario of white people becoming brown you keep repeating is giving me bad vibes. I dont think next generation warfare has anything to do with your cuck fetish.

Our military is the strongest, no other country is even close. Even our public shown military/tech is superior to the rest of the Globe, lets not forget thats just a facade, our real military strength lies in our military industrial complex which flexes tech 300 years more advanced. The last 80 years of UAP retrieval programs and reverse engineering their technology. Trump's Golden Dome is gonna be extremely watered down future tech Raytheon has been sitting on for decades. All these Black budget projects being funded by American Tax payers, its Our Tech.

Yeah the toy its strapped to is what makes it better than an RPG. Holy shit dude take a break go Crack open a beer and smoke a cig outside and look at the clouds.

2- I am happy about the missiles

The ones they have more of than you?

Why do u keep talking about this? Its like youre trying to derail the thread.

Remember Tonga

Honestly the world should just do it already.

China poisons the earth
The amount of environmental damage caused by that nation is disgusting

Entire ecosystems wiped out in the name of profits

Do you have the clearance to know how many missiles china and the US have? Or are you just regurgitating stuff you saw on Yahoo news.

Everybody knows you're butthurt and eager to have all that pollution in your local factories.
That argument doesn't work here, sav that for the libtards.

U haven't said anything good yet in this thread. Do you come on here and do this because its hard for you to make friends in real life? Did you have trouble talking to the other kids in lower school?

Any Taiwan scenario would have 3 notable dimensions:

Amphibious

Obviously to invade an island you need to get there first, breach the beachhead and then fight your way inland. China presently has very limited amphibious capability and a largely unmodernized military using 1960s gear. The size of its army is of limited value in a narrow amphibious battlefront. In a vacuum this would be a very difficult fight for them, even just against the Taiwanese, and would rely heavily on air and naval support to succeed.

Aerial

Amphibious operations are impossible without total air superiority. This means totally defeating both Taiwan's air force and local US air forces over hostile air space and disabling ground-based air defenses with enough assets remaining to provide the necessary air support. US force posture in the region scales up to overmatch China's air force, which remains a fraction of the size of the overall US air force.
As China has never actually flown real air combat, the expected capability of its pilots is low even before considering the value and quantity of their airframes. How do instructors that have never flown in combat train new pilots on how to fly in combat? It would rely entirely on donated instructors from Russia, and we can see in Ukraine how effective their air force doctrine has been.

naval

You must control the seas to invade an island. China has technically the largest navy by hull quantity but the vast majority are littoral vessels with no missile launch capability, which exist to bully coast guards in the SCS. It has relatively few modern missile-equipped PSC and that means an acute vulnerability to air, land, or sea-launched anti-ship missiles which could undermine any amphibious operation.

In other words the odds of success for China would be low even if they fielded superior airframes.

I’m sure a few made in China ICBMs will reach
Some might even detonate
You can keep Europe
You can’t invade America
There’s 3 guns for every American

So train in Canada
Build bases in Mexico
Try your hand in subversion

China is vulnerable. Extremely
China imports everything
Food
When they grow enough food to feed their own people then I’ll take them seriously

And it will be an all out massive first strike
Can’t afford China releasing another bio weapon on the world

can't argue back

I accept your concession.

I’m sure a few

Nah. Life on your continent will not be sustainable. All of your farmlands gone.

1

: a region lying inland from a coast

rivers are still inland, you think people don't condider the midwest aspart of the US hinterland? surprise it's also a river supported industrial region

LAUNCH THE NUKES!!!!

chink moonrunes suddenly appeared

Until all of our car factories, including tesla gigafactories get turned into missile assembly lines you absolute fucking RETARD britKEK

Why were these boats fleeing from Yemen though?

Can US millitary beat China alone?

Yes it can, the Chinese military is subpar. But the US military trusts Jews which are all communists and also 5th column mutts who have infiltrated the military and are riddled all throughout the military like a nasty cancer, so the US will probably lose. Or the US has a real fight on its hands, on the inside too. There's a chance the Chinese could win because of this.

muh nukes

Enjoy also being turned into a radioactive wasteland anon. In a conventional war chinks would win and conquer USA within 10 years. They have more people, 250x the shipbuilding potential, 100x the missile building potential and 50x the plane manufacturing potential. Chinks could pump out 250 ships per US navy ship. Have fun fighting that war retard.

no you couldnt you dogshit Anon Babble nigger

the Houthi/suez debacle utterly and completely annihilated western global hegemony in any practical, enforceable form, forever
imagine this:

A multi-national coalition backed by a 50+ ship nuclear carrier-group flotilla, launching unlimited F-18 sorties a day, supplemented by the near equivalent expenditure of tomahawk cruise missiles the US used in the totality of desert storm has done absolutely.fucking.*NOTHING*.to unfuck the historic closure of the suez canal, or to effect any damage on Yemen, the literal last place (((gdp))) on the planet.

the most severe, imposing threat the "west" could ever impose:

"we will *glass you* with a carrier battle group and fucking B2 stealth bomber strikes, and there is nothing you can do about it"

has irrevocably been exposed as the literal definiton of a "paper tiger"
by every measure the threat of *Glassing you with carrier groups* was the sum-total of all western, non-nuclear threats
there is no "escalation" outside of literal actual nukes, after the "Carrier-battle group" card is played.
so in any practical or applicable sense
ITS OVER

China needs our farmland
Missouri just seized all Chinese owned land back
Won’t be long the entire country will kick China out
You need our farmland more than us

Chinas only option is ICBMs
China can’t support a naval fleet to reach the United States
China can’t even take back Taiwan from the CIA
Just imagine how much better China would be had it not allowed the bankers to subvert it and convert it into a communist state. Remember when China killed all the birds
China likes to put a face on that every citizen is a loyal servant but the truth is that after 100 years of communism a major portion of it’s citizens have grown tired of their rulers
China makes them kill their children
How loyal do you think they are going to remain

Yes it can, the Chinese military is subpar

holy fuck I cant stand you people, i really cant

Can US millitary beat China alone?

Yes it can, the Chinese military is subpar. But the US military trusts Jews which are all communists and also 5th column mutts who have infiltrated the military and are riddled all throughout the military like a nasty cancer, both of these groups aren't really loyal to America and will sabotage the US war effort against China fro within. So the US will probably lose. Or the US has a real fight on its hands, on the inside too. There's a chance the Chinese could win because of this.

China needs our farmland

LMAO, your farm are all going bankrupt.

No your a shill working for the Pentagon.

The US military is the most advanced military on Earth, dumb commie.

News flash, buddy: The Suez is open.
I know you're paid per post but your handlers really need to update the script.

lmao chinks
Ask the japs what happened to their grand navy once they fought the white man

your posts would be fine if you weren't such a baby who cries about Anon Babble in every post. do you know how gay you sound? get a fucking grip

unironically usa can beat all the foreign powers combined. you don't know how much advanced,trained and powerful their military is and they have placed their military bases for decades. the only powerhouse that can beat usa today is itself or ayylmaos.

Truly a braindead retard or bot.

China can’t support a naval fleet to reach the United States

Why not anon? I dont even believe that you genuinely believe this. They have 250x the shipbuilding potential of the united states and the entire US navy would get sunk within a few months of the war starting.

China likes to put a face on that every citizen is a loyal servant but the truth is that after 100 years of communism a major portion of it’s citizens have grown tired of their rulers

The average chink is far more patriotic than the average american in current year. You've never been to China and you don't even know any chinks that are from china. You are talking about shit you literally have absolutely no idea about.

I can't even imagine being this confidently wrong. True lunacy.

from*

^holy fuck malfunctioning faggot nigger kike jew bot

russia lost, if they didn't you wouldn't need to be shilling on here on american vpn

can US win a conventional war against China?

No.

Because navel vessels are obsolete

Drones have changed everything

If the United States isn’t building a massive drone army and massive underground drone factories then we’ve lost the next ground and sea war

Also why won’t invade and go for the first strike wipe out option

The US military is the most advanced military on Earth, dumb commie.

no it isnt you fucking retarded Anon Babbleike shill nigger

lloydslist.com/LL1152695/No-recovery-for-Red-Sea-traffic

Anon Babble nigger spotted lmao
you faggots are so pathetic its unreal

17:02:22

17:15:23

80% of all posts after this are bot posts.

usa lost in vietnam, iraq, afghanistan, and now ukraine lol lmao

be China

alone

no allies

abso-fucking-lutely surrounded

neighbor is Nipon, chomping at the bit to invade AGAIN.

Fucked. China would be overwhelmingly fucked for absolutely every direction. We could send cruise missiles right over Siberia and Russia would do nothing.

China has NO projection of power. Zero. They could knock over some garbage cans in Thailand. Taiwain? Give me a fucking break on Taiwan already. It would take four fucking hours for a transport shore-to-shore. It would be sunk long before it could ever land.

We all know Ralafe is better than F-16 so it means

we can also see how Chinese J20 can mog F35

Holy shit you are high. Two non-peer adversaries duking it out with export model craft after bottom-of-the-barrel training has absolutely no comparisson to the US, its allies, and its capabilities.

China has never seen air combat. Ever. They have no teachers, trainers, or experienced pilots. That is all.

the entire US navy would get sunk within a few months of the war starting.

I can't even imagine being this confidently wrong. True lunacy.

ironic

USA cant even beat goatfuckers in iraq lmfao

China is where the US was in the early 1900s. Absolutely insane production capability, just waiting for the stronger military power to topple itself.

2025 isn’t over
The fields in the Midwest have just been planted. You’re estimating is based off when we had a presidential administration that put its people last

Part of trump’s plan to restore this nation is to reduce food exports and sell our products domestically. The world needs us. We don’t need the world. We can become energy exporters at a turn of a switch.
Everyone who listens to the media and propaganda thinks our President isn’t acting according to a plan. I promise you Trump is way smarter than he lets on . He’s already won this trade war

The US military is the most advanced military on Earth, dumb commie.

<SPERGING> no it isnt you fucking retarded Anon Babbleike shill n*gger </SPERGING>

Ok Chief, you’ll name the most advanced military on Earth then. Probably your native Ghana, I take it?

The world needs us. We don’t need the world.

uh huh. ok, mr. "airman".

mutts and war, you could say they are ass at it

Notice how that webm is from 30 years ago. USA can't do anything this scale anymore. We don't have the planes, we don't have the pilots, and we don't have the expertise to pull this off now.

This webm is from back when America was actually great and not a husk of its former self, hollowed out by jews for 30 years.

you brought up iraq, not me.

Do you know what it takes to deploy a fleet for 6 plus months?

Chinese citizens in china are loyal to China because if they’re not they get basic services restricted and sent to reeducation camps.

It’s not lunacy
Read and educate yourself
Read about the nets around the buildings to keep them from killing them selves

They are an enslaved people and if the masters ability to rule over them is taken out then they will rise up

Read about the nets around the buildings to keep them from killing them selves

China has a lower suicide rate than the USA and employers here don't even give us suicide nets.

They are loyal to China because they see Xi Jinping doing three things:
1) Raising living standards enormously
2) Making China the new superpower, and the Chinese people the main characters of the world
3) Not taunting native Chinese people with insane immigration and social policies like trannying the kids

What does it offer?
Especially the old world with all that wisdom and government

Close every base
Bring every troop home
End all foreign aid
End all treaties

It will take decades for the US to unfuck its education system. We haven't even started yet.

Do you know what it takes to deploy a fleet for 6 plus months?

A lot. It's a massive weakness that the US has all these massively expensive fleets. It is reminiscent of the Soviet Union.

Raising living standards enormously

that was deng. xi hasn't done shit for the people

as compared to who? the US military is a logistics company that dabbles in fighting and it's very good at it.

The US COULD be autarkical. But it sure as fuck isn't. Your parasitic elite class quite enjoy shipping all production to cheaper parts of the world so they can afford another gold-plated toilet.

USA cant even beat goatfuckers in iraq lmfao

Yes that’s why Saddam Hussein is still in power, Frenchie.

They have 250x the shipbuilding potential of the united states

..and yet still no real Navy, and bought air craft carrier carcasses from Russia.

US navy would get sunk within a few months of the war starting.

You can’t sink ships with an imaginary fleet, Anon. And without force projection China won’t get anywhere near our subs.

China never lies. Not once.
Remember their Covid numbers

Trusting them is like trusting that there’s WMDs in Iraq or the vax is safe and effective
How boosted do you have to be to trust Chinese numbers

It started with Deng. It continues with Xi.
Chinese people have all the access to the latest tech that you have. As far as common electronics like mobile phones go, they actually have more consumer choice than you. That wasn't the case in Deng's time.

How is China a superpower?

fighting

except the fighting part, absolutely terrible at it

They are extremely obsolete as well

Ten thousand dollar drone sinks a billion dollar boat

mutts and war, you could say they are ass at it

wins every World War

wins the Cold War

only Super Power with an active Space Program

only Super Power with repeated successful air campaigns in the past 50 years.

only Super Power with force projection that isn’t a fucking global laughing stock.

only Super Power

You can’t sink ships with an imaginary fleet, Anon. And without force projection China won’t get anywhere near our subs.

China currently has a larger fleet than the US. They are pumping out more than 1 aircraft carrier per 2 years. They will have more carriers than the USA by 2040. They currently have over 200 nuclear power stations under construction or planned, the USA has like 20.

China will eventually surpass the USA by just waiting, but even if war happened now I am still convinced the chinks would win, mostly because the USA doesn't manufacture or build anything by itself anymore.

they already are. But they've been played themselves as weak so that you don't notice.

It already has a bigger economy than you. It is probably the single most essential country in the world for global supply lines. It leads the world in research in many important areas, and its universities, massively overlooked in western rankings publications, put out lots of important work. It has a billion people.
How isn't it? Because it doesn't spend trillions on pointless wars against random tribes in central Asia?

just proves you have no idea what you're talking about or what it takes to sink a ship
youtu.be/5uvpRpOBZa0

It was the entire west.

The central banking system hiding the theft of nations wealth and propping up a people to replace us with. They never knew freedom and they know not to complain, but NWO was exposed

was meant for:

man the delusional cope still spewed by mutts is pathologically

logistics my ass. Ur jets won't touch to any place if China wants to take them down. There is no logistics if you can't send 100 million americans to live in some island in SEA.

They are weak. They mimic our military from 50 years ago

They need western education and engineering to support their infrastructure
They don’t grow enough food to feed themselves
They can’t retake an island
Their entire economy is based on foreign consumption

They want to high the hand that feeds them let them

china lost 20,000 or more to vietnam in 1 month

and your boats won't go in or out of china without the US allowing them to

There will not be a big war between China and the US. The cataclysmic power of the two nations is too much and M.A.D. will be in effect.
There will be small disputes that the US wins until one day it doesn't, and after that the world will know that China is now number one.
A few years ago there was a dispute involving Nancy Pelosi going to Taiwan. The US won. China lost. But the momentum looks to be with China, and one day there will be a little dispute like that and the Chinese will win it.

currently

eventually

They are pumping out more than 1 aircraft carrier per 2 years

Starting in 2026? Where are these “aircraft carriers”? Are they in the room with you right now?

Ten thousand dollar drone sinks a billion dollar boat

Tell me about the Ten thousand dollar drone that is going to sink a billion dollar boat. Describe it to me. Does it have wings? How much Fuel? Must be pretty massive to carry a payload that could “sink a billion dollar boat”.

And yet this “drone” - it isn’t a missile? It’s not goin Mach 4, but just flying along minding it’s business?

Next you’ll tell me “b-b-b-but it’s a swarm A SWARM A Swaaaaaaarm!!!1!”

And that’s why we have low-yield nukes in the 1-5kt variety. Send your swarm. Send another.

By the third one we will have triangulated the source of control, neutralized it. Determined one of three or four possible control centers, and glassed them. Chosen the proper payback, and hit them with cruise missiles or ICBMs.

You have no game. No demonstrated game.

yes the mobile phone market was much smaller in the 80s. deng set the ideology and frameworks in place, everyone after him hasn't innovated much, just continued what he started. biggest change has been increasing influence in se asia me and afr

that wont happen since you either get all of your ships sunken in the port so you lost your capabilities to sail.

the subs are already there

Can your slow-ass missiles even break hypersonic speed yet?
China's can. You'll seen them going Mach 9 right before they slam into your building.

so what? Subs can't produce nukes 24 nonstop. They can just launch nukes from Xinjiang. You are always trying to sound powerful when screeching about nukes nukes nukes. Soviets tried to nuke China before. How is that going?

mutts flex even when they consistently lose war after war like delusional faggots. i don't see china doing that so much, maybe they do against philippines but no one cares about them

eww newwww muh Vietnaaaaaahhhm.

When you don’t have an objective then the objective cannot be reached.

Macarthur wanted to finish the Korean war using nuclear assets to destroy 12 locations in North Korea with 1MT bombs. The president said no.

logistics

There is no logistics

(Anon describes how there is no possible way for China to take Taiwan)

Who the fuck would send a jet to China? Why would 100 million americans go to China?

Oh wait you think “winning” in this usage implies occupation. Oh, no no no Anon. Not occupation.

who said anything about nukes?

the conversation was about shipbuilding and you are trying to turn it into something else. are you implying that China is going to build ships deep within the country and teleport them to the coast?

This nigga does not know about inland chink shipyards located along their amazon river sized great rivers. The chinks even build subs in these shipyards.

so you are telling me nuclear subs don't have nukes? KEK

( psst.. Anon.. you forgot the part where they hold all the foreign debt.. they’ve lent out all their liquidity.. TO THE U.S. !1!!)

at least we fight wars. china has no experience whatsoever with fighting anybody in the last 70 years. good luck with that.

Tell me about the Ten thousand dollar drone that is going to sink a billion dollar boat. Describe it to me. Does it have wings? How much Fuel? Must be pretty massive to carry a payload that could “sink a billion dollar boat”.

its right here you faggot fucking Anon Babble nigger
entire fucking swarms of them sitting silently in the sea, just waiting
youre so fucking stupid and arrogant its unreal

they have manufacutring. The money isn't important during the war.

subs

LMAO
msn.com/en-xl/news/other/was-doomed-us-submarine-caught-by-a-monster-whirlpool-in-the-south-china-sea/ar-AA1s3mAK

the pic also showed afghanistan, also don't forget your failure in iraq

yes they do. they also have torpedoes.

you fight unnecessary, and "illegal" by your own standards, wars on behalf of your corporations. you deserve to have your ass handed to you

that's all you get? It's always tit for tat. You won win a war like this. Somehow this will send you to an end.

Here, Anon discloses that they do not understand physics.

Lectures country that was the first to break Mach 1, Mach 2, Mach 3, Mach 4, ..

All missiles are hypersonic you mouth-breathing Arch Idiot. ICBMs reach Mach 20+ on re-entry. Our AAMs go MACH 4+ or they’d never catch their targets. Even following a parabolic intermediate range the launch phase breaks Mach 2.

They can just launch nukes from Xinjiang.

What Xinjiang? It’s a cradle of irradiated dust 200 meters deep that smells like day-old take out, Anon.

China’s can. (*sob*) ( ._.)

China can make their own space station and put their man on the moon without faking it kek.

Manufacturing is leaving
I wouldn’t trust anything as far as research our statistics from china
They literally steal intellectual property all the time.
Without western education, engineering and investment they are nothing
Look at Hong Kong. Built by the Brit’s

And I wouldn’t say America became a superpower because of the endless wars it’s been hijacked into fighting but because after WW2 we were left unmolested by war and the world saw first hand what happens when the full force of the American people is put to work to accomplish a victory. How many fronts and countries did we supply?
I acknowledge we didn’t join at the start but we damn sure helped end that war and earned our status.
On paper they may appear to be a superpower but so did Russia

i'd pay to watch you try

they have J55 and J36? A generation ahead of yours.

t. insufferable mutt

Literally:

"When you don’t have an objective then the objective cannot be reached.”

I know ESL is hard Pidor Pidorovich, but try to keep up.

If you need to wank, there are far better places on the internet, Anon. Oh that’s right you’re behind the Great Wall of internet.

You won win a war like this.

I think the hard part is conjugating verbs. Tense is always so difficult. In English it can change the word’s spelling, not just the pronunciation, not just add an inflection or accent to an existing word.

Try to pick one before hitting send next time.

~ We’re here to help!

No manufacturing isn't leaving. There are more people buying products from China after the tariff. Their export increased 8 percent after Trump's tariff. If that's leaving kek i mean you must be retarded.

yes

t. turd wurdler

The bankers and war profiteers are not going to allow the military to bomb their factories, stupid. Remember the in Krupp Metalworks factory in Essen, Germany was not bombed. They just bombed the houses around it. That was because the same "investors" also owned US Steel and Bethlehem Steel and most of the other steel factories in the world.

don’t have an objective

thus proving you cunts are terrible at war. what dumb fucks go to war without an objective? i'll tell you faggot you did it for your corporations and got stomped. enjoy your war memorials tho

You did make a great space station. Did you ever play Alpha Centauri? The leader from China is named Yang and had the same suit at your first Taikonaut. It was pretty awesome actually.

Ok back to business.

man on the moon without faking it kek.

Pfft. low quality bait. You can do better than that.

once they lock up their rare earth export there is no more 5th gen or 6th jets or any other high end weaponery for you.

accidents happen, right?

A generation ahead of yours.

A generation ahead of.. what exactly? Oh wait WAIT did you mean ahead of the B-2?? Oh tell me - this J55 and J36 - how many countries has it bombed? How many capitols? How many thousands has it killed in a hot war? How many sorties and returned to base safely and fucking unseen?

Mmmmmh. Zero. The number you’re looking for is called zero in English.

~ We’re here to help!

the world knows you faked moonlanding. It's not even a question. How can you stream on the moon like that and yet you can't even have some qhd streaming on spaceX?

Yeah what the fuck Anon. Manufacturing isn’t leaving China, it’s growing for fuck’s sake. Read a book.

the issue is simple, you have tons of money but they also do. Their millitary budget is 1/3rd of yours but with their manufacturing cost and brain, their millitary output is probably 2 times of yours. It's not going well for mutts.

what dumb fucks go to war without an objective?

Have you *SEEN* what gets elected in this country? Seriously.

Also, I’m not quite sure what the “failure” of Iraq is that you are promoting. The objective was achieved both times.