Why does Anon Babble believe the moon landing was fake?

There's no fucking dark side of the moon you retard.

Did you google it

You are too stupid to realize when you are listening to jew spam which is why you make a jew spam thread.

China's Chang'e-6 mission discovered that the dark side of the moon was once a vast magma ocean, and it found evidence of ancient volcanic activity, including basalt fragments dating back 2.8 billion years. The mission also collected samples of lunar soil, which revealed a more porous and loosely structured composition than previous samples. Additionally, the Chang'e-4 mission's Yutu-2 rover discovered a gel-like substance in a crater on the far

they lie about everything, so why not this also?

because scientists still didnt figure out how to deal with cosmic radiation beyond van allen belts
right now they are working on how to deal with it before they send people to the moon or further
they just needed to win space race so goyim would ignore communism taking over the west
and soviets needed grain
so they made a deal

I don't believe the moon landing was fake but I do know the reasons that people might think it is fake. Getting to the moon is the easy part but landing on it is hard. The Russians opted not to try it because they knew it was too hard. Instead of landing on the moon with astronauts they focused on creating a remote controlled unmanned landing. Which allowed them to land on Venus.

So the motivation would be to fake the accomplishment with television magic instead of attempting it. People die in space if even 1 thing goes wrong. All that said I don't think they faked it. It would have leaked by now. Also they have all that flight recording stuff which would have been hard to fake. The actual landing took hours and there was tons of things nasa had to do and they recorded all of it.

There's a far side of the moon. Not a 'dark side' you absolute fucking brainlet.

Whether we've actually been to the moon or not, the footage aired on TV in 1969 was fake and gay. NASA are liars to the core, and so are their buddies at SpaceX and Bezos's Discount Space Flights.

why does Anon Babble believe the moon landing was fake?

Because the generations who won't ride a bike without a helmet, and won't go out to play without a supervisor; find it impossible to believe that there were people who were willing to risk something with a 50% chance of death via failure

Source:butthole

I copy and pasted it from google your fucking authority overlord yoy.dumb fagget the moon is obv a hologram fuckface

I copy and pasted some retarded shit from google

good for you

the far side was never seen by anyone, the only "evidence" of it existing are videos of a rocky landscape that could for all we know have been recorded/edited here on earth

i cope and pasted my emotions instead of providing proof or a source

Good for you

here you go. this is day 5. 11 hours of NASA. People act like the astronauts are all that are needed for these missions. Its actually like 95% people on the ground. In the 60s they were sending flash rom updates to the craft in real time. Via radio transmission.

Enjoy butthole.

youtube.com/watch?v=0QNEpBdh2Q4&t=15236s

Fake af.

Oh yea goys this youtube video is the authority aroind these parts. Im gunna pass on your 60 second ads and comment section thay will ban me for sauing something

be US government

Go to moon

One of the greatest human accomplishments

Lose footage and records

astronaut gets violent when questioned

Can't replicate it with modern tech

It is totally real guys l.

Like stds

whats there to gain from the lie? does nasa send their money to israel?

omg its fake because its on youtube. Turn around I'll help you pull your head at of your asshole.

source:

look at the moon. You always see the same side. Some of it gets dark on different days and the darkness moves, so it clearly isn't a 'dark side' is it you fucking retard.

dumb nigger

Production began in February 2018 with the intention of release on the 50th anniversary of Apollo 11's launch day (subsequently the pre and post flight press conferences were added). Each video took between 1 and 3 months to produce, working about 10 hours a wee
So a video made in 2018 proves we landed on the moon in 1969. Amazing

stds arent real

i hope youre not this retarded lmao

Again its not my words ape. Its nasa google and chinas. Who all seem to work together yet are enemies

oh no they just made these tapes recently. They weren't recorded at the same time that it actually happened. its all fake. Everything is fake.

The video you posted is literally in color you fucking monkey.

Browns want to take away White achievements so they pretend that the moon landing never happened

and that makes you unable to look at the moon?
moron

1958:
Alfred Hitchcock's "Vertigo" used a computer-generated spiral in its opening credits, making it the first instance of CGI in a feature film.
1960s:
Computer graphics were used for scientific and military purposes, paving the way for more complex CGI applications.
1970s:
CGI began to appear in more mainstream films like "Westworld" and "Star Wars," utilizing 3D and 2D graphics.
1980s:
Techniques like "Genesis Effect" in "Star Trek II" and the extensive use of CGI in "Tron" showcased the growing capabilities of CGI.
1990s:
The rise of CGI became more prominent, with films like "Jurassic Park" and "Toy Story" demonstrating its potential for creating fully computer-generated characters and environments.
Early 2000s:
Films like "The Lord of the Rings" pushed the boundaries of visual realism and complex CGI effects.

There are many reasons, and not a single one of them has to do with flat earth. These two get conflated constantly, and I bet you anything someone will do that in this thread. My reasons are as follows:

Radiation

Space suits contracted to a women's underwear company

Extreme temperatures on the moon (220° F to -212° F from light to shadow)

"Whoopsie, all our data from that time got destroyed in a flood!"

"Well, we have mobile devices more powerful than the computers we had back then, but for whatever reason we just can't replicate it!"

Every rocket test before the moon landing was a failure

Perfect propaganda to use against Soviet Russia during the space race

There are others, but that's everything that is pretty damning. The moon rocks brought back to earth were all stolen or lost, and the few that remained were studied and discovered to be petrified wood.

Tapes were lost or recorded over and come on man do yoy got a vhs player?-joe biden

Browns want to take away White achievements

majority of people that deny the moon landing are white and lean politically right.

go outside fatass

So what year exaxtly in this chart did we go to the moon again? Right adter military purposes and right before star wars? Coincedenxe

Yeah they must have recorded the audio for it at the same time they made that 3d image to help people estimate what they are talking about.

Its daytime here because the earth is flat

Yea richard nixxon was on the up and up as i remember. Honest guy no issues there.

Yes right wingers are niggers I agree with you

It's a jew cope. Nazi scientists got us to the moon.

Reading comprehension go learn it faggot

what would anyone gain from lying about landing on the moon other than bragging rights which are meaningless anyways?

NASA is a psyop to get every other country to invest in dead-end technology. Everything NASA shows the world is actually obsolete, or a lie that leads to nothing that is productive.

What do you know about "it" thay we dont?

This entire talking point relies on taking a single dude out of context and pretending he said that nasa deliberately destroyed everything needed for the apollo program and we literally have no idea how to do it again because it was impossible in the first place. And he said this to a camera for absolutely no fucking reason. It's a retarded concept to think he'd say that and you know it

A main point of the human experience is entertainment value. If you grant an astronaut a small weight budget and they choose a golf club, who gives a fuck? Also the moon buggy is way more practical than you're letting on, how else are they gonna pull samples from a wide area? Walk? They dont have the air or time for that. It also functioned as a portable station for transmission, now the astronauts dont have to stay in range of the lander or perhaps even be forced to carry a massive antenna on their back.

How in the fuck do you know the van allen belt's too dangerous? We sent probes and tested the radiation and found it to be acceptable.

The probes were fake/the data was lied about!

Then you don't have any way of knowing they're unsafe dipshit, you just believe that for no reason at all.

Do you seriously think this is a fish or something and not a chunk of ice? You're aware missiles are things that physically exist and can be seen in person right? So they launched a real missile then cut to a real rocket with a cgi background that happens to perfectly match up with the real ground, and then they missed the lizard or whatever on it.

Actually, just watch the whole footage and I guarantee that so-called animal magically fades into nothingness as the ice sublimes or falls off at a very fast speed.

If you think a phonecall to the moon is an impossible hurdle you know absolutely nothing about electronics

You know what. Richard Nixon planned the whole thing with Roger Stone. Money was no object. And now 62 years later their master plan is finally taking shape. Thank god for CGI.

I cant respond to your......"statement"
It lacks any merrit or weight

Roger stone is a saint sir its on google plz dont be sarcastic

claims stds are bullshit and arent real

tells me im the one with reading comprehension

youre worse than retarded.

The fucks this, might as well say this is shallow and pedantic like peter griffin lmao

No I think you are right. They are going to keep it going forever. They can't ever admit that it was a hoax right? It probably costed more money to keep the lie going.

Why do you believe a TV show is real?

Oh snap i googled it and roger stone was kicked out the church. Wow.

Believes we should have hi-fi rocket science by now

Tell me o wise one, how exactly does burning liquid in a tube change in the last 60 years? Why do you think that things get any easier or cheaper by having more computer? The computer's job is to calculate heading and time the rockets, and frankly you could have made this shit with a MECAHNICAL computer if you really had to.

Richard nixxon is a good man and would never lie. Not even ever

Richard Nixon was accused of obstruction of justice, abuse of power, and contempt of Congress in connection with the Watergate scandal. Specifically, he was accused of:
Obstruction of justice:
This included attempting to impede the investigation into the Watergate break-in, covering up the involvement of administration officials, and concealing other illegal activities. He was also accused of instructing aides to halt the FBI investigation.
Abuse of power:
This involved using the office of the presidency to unlawfully use federal agencies like the IRS and FBI to violate citizens' rights and interfere with investigations.
Contempt of Congress:
Nixon was accused of refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas, particularly regarding the release of the White House tapes.
The impeachment process against Nixon led to his resignation in 1974. The scandal began with a break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters and escalated as the Nixon administration attempted to cover it up.
Well fuck me again im sorry guys i admit when im wrong

why does Anon Babble believe the moon landing was fake?

Earth is flat. Moon has its own light. It is a local object that is either a reflector of planetary electrical fields , or a plasma ball.

you can land on virtual object that reflects something or on a ball of plasma

...and? Does nixon being a bad person mean the moon landing was faked? He didn't even start it, any president was set to take that phonecall. Meaning it was probably an actual fucking phonecall

If only he followed the law and turned over the ebudence. Tsk tsk sad really

wow you know nothing about the apollo missions but you've collapsed it all into a utterly silly strawman of an imaginary single cartoon mission

go to the moon for some reason

2025: dont get back to the moon for some reason

i totally believe some motherfuckers went on the moon, they had another spaceship inside the space rocket, and they had some sort of a lunar jeep in the trunk of that bitch as well

They probably :)))) and then they forgot some m.. fcker nigger operator on the "moon".

You freemasons are funny.

>you CANNOT land on virtual object that reflects something or on a ball of plasma

Moon has its own light.

Face the moon and hold up a ball. If the sun is shining on you(the moon tends to get more access to sunlight being really fucking high up and all), the ball's shadow will ALWAYS, without fail, match the phase of the moon.

You do know the moon doesn't rotate opposite of the sun right? On that flat earth map it'd be making wacky spirals all year long. Because the moon orbits the earth on a path independent of the orbit around the sun or the earth's rotation and wobble. It's the only way picrel makes sense, the moon's face slightly changes over time and it's perfectly matching with a globe earth's rotation, and nonsense on flat.

It is a local object that is either a reflector of planetary electrical fields , or a plasma ball.

Those are some very different ideas, perhaps you should test things instead of asserting random hypotheses as fact

All the metadata, correlated time stamps being perfectly faked, engineered that way, would be next to impossible: apolloinrealtime.org/11/

Voted for the guy that cut nasa's budget

Oh gee why cant nasa afford to go to the heckin moon guys

Fuck you mean oops? This is apollo 17, they had tried this shot twice prior. The first time the camera was seized up and the next the buggy was parked too close and the dust fucked up the lens. The reason it takes a second to move up is because the camera is remotely operated from command with a joystick and it takes a second to move.

omg its all television special effects.

The moon is a plasma field, not a planet.
Grow up and stop playing with your spaceballs.

I mean oops they shot it in a movie pavillion.
That oops.
Literally any half arsed nigger like you can take about 1000 of the NASA pictures , load it into a Photoshop , play around a bit and identify that it has a very poorly made green screen in the back. That isn't that far.
It's a movie set.

whats there to gain from the lie?

What was there to gain from the actual Moon landing

test

See this is the problem.
Step 1: The flat earth has a logical contradiction such as the moon's phases
Step 2: Make up some shit to explain it, in this case the moon is a magic light source or a holograph or something. Anything but a rock reflecting light.
Step 3: Ignore that this doesn't explain why we can't take a rocket to it
Step 4: Now you have to explain why rockets don't work or why we can't reach the moon
Step 5: Also ignore that we can tell the moon is rock just by looking at the spectra of light, thats all god's epic prank bro

The biggest opponent to flat earth and fake moon is god himself continually throwing a wrench into their ideas

man, missed these threads, i havent posted in one for like half a year

by the same logic... whats the benefit of faking something that has nothing to gain? It would be like pretending to lick your own asshole.

im in the mood to pointlessly argue this
let's start with

Step 1: The flat earth has a logical contradiction such as the moon's phases

what is the contradiction without you using any fallacy

It's literally impossible to be a movie set dude. You know nothing. There's plenty of footage of them traveling very far distances both on foot and in their vehicles. There's plenty of absolute proof showing that the light is sunlight and cannot be from studio lights which would have light scattering and non-parallel rays.

And that's ignoring this is 1960s technology and green screens sucked ass. And then they printed thousands of film photographs all individually and meticulously perfectly crafted to where nobody but dipshits like you can see the truth?

he moon doesn't rotate opposite of the sun right?

It does, moron, there are 24 hour scan videos on YT on how Sun and Moon rotate .

You don't know basics. That not a single scientists can build a 3 planet working model. Nothing freakign works on your fake ball.

Take 3 "planet" system - Sun, Earth and Polaris, Northern "star".
Build a system where Earth rotates around the sun, has seasons (tilts etc.) , yet Polaris have never actually moved in 300 years. Ever.

by the same logic

By what logic, you didn't answer
What was there to gain from the actual moon landing

we have them weekly
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/subject/apollo|moon/
archive.4plebs.org/pol/search/text/apollo|moon/type/op/

Because nobody had done it before?

I can do that

If the moon and sun are close to earth(used to explain the change in position of the sun as you move across the earth, which is explained by the curvature of earth), then the moon cannot have the phases it does since the moon's phases would be completely different and wouldn't match with the sun's position at all. Not to mention the impossibilities of lunar and solar eclipses.

It's evidence the moon is much closer than the sun is, but it needs to be explained on a flat earth.

Picrel is the easiest explanation of this concept. Why would the moon and the ball have the same phase if the sun weren't so far away that both are receiving approximately the same direction of light? It doesn't work so they have to make up shit about how the moon REALLY works, ignoring that the ball still shows the same phase.

Ah. So you think human eyes can see and what they see is absolute. You can barely see 3 colors

What was there to gain from the actual moon landing

Because nobody had done it before?

Are you an ESL bro ? What's the gain in "because nobody had done it before"

If your answer was to set up a base wed axcept.it but

just for fun bro

Isnt good enough

Ah I think you are full of shit.

while north "star" polaris has been used for ship navigation for hundreds of years and it NEVER MOVED.

Did you tag the wrong post

Ah yes. Sailors are known to carry a round globe with them when sailing

The virgin poltard

They soft disclose it in Interstellar when in the meeting with the teachers. Basically “it was a brilliant piece of propaganda “ blabla the Paperclip Nazis just all had a chip on their shoulder and wanted to milk the America taxpayers for all their worth. All government funded science is corrupt. The funny thing in interstellar is that while everyone is living in poverty as dirt farmers all the scientists are still pulling the same scam living like the 1 percent underground eating steak and lobster making some rocket that if it was reality would never fly but it’s always for the greater good goy .

Polaris is a magnetic rock

Yet polaris have never actually moved in 300 years

Its apparent position drifts about 46 arcseconds in 1000 years, this is measured. It's also not perfectly affixed in the middle, the bright arc here in picrel is polaris.

You also don't have a reason why every 6 months the stars shift in the sky slightly and move back the next 6 months. It's explained by the orbit of earth around the sun but it's just shit the stars do apparently on the flat earth. Again, why's god so insistent on tricking you with stuff that supports the globe and requiring you to figure out the real truth that is NOT remotely obvious?

You must be a nigger. I'm sorry I didn't realize. White people do things just to learn new things and evolve.

I did

White people do things just to learn new things and evolve.

So why did they never go back to Moon after 1972 but they do have constant space station missions. Pretty much any feat - probes to other planets, telescopes, space stations, Low Earth orbiting, Mars missions etc have been constantly done yet the Moon landing only happened for 4 years under Nixon and then completely stopped even though they used to talk about Moon stations and shit

Now low iq ball tard.
I posted an image that I can use to break a ball one more time.

too lazy to create a new one.

Look here:
Imagine , that there's a 2-3 story house with windows towards the Sun.
Now , imagine that we have a sunset, sun is going down (ie. on your Ball Model, earth rotates AWAY from the sun).

let's assume no clouds

Since in your model the sun is massive, it should GO BELOW your personal horizon.
Right before the sunset majority of the sun is below your horizon.
Now draw the lines to your house.

You should have YOU CEILING lighted up.
Pretty much on every clear day, during sunsets , you should see the sun on your ceiling in every room.

But you don't see that.
You see the sun above you , but not below you.
And the reflection is on the FLOOR.

which matches the sun being small, local above you - the flat earth model

There is nothing I can say to make a blind man see. You want to live in dreamworks animation pictures, that is your desire no matter what.

t position drifts about 46 arcseconds in 1000 years,

Doesn't matter.
Go hire any Computer Programmer (don't hire pajeet), and ask him to build you a Software program of these 3 objects - Earth, Sun , Polaris.

have seasons,

but polaris doesn't move.

and see if he can tell you that you are nuts and it is impossible.

the only way this is possible is if Polaris is also local and is basically attached to the planet .

ie it rotates with the earth

Giving you a cheat answer

just so you understand, im not arguing for flat earth, im more interested in pointing out flaws in your logic because i find it fun
for a start, what you're saying is completely illogical, you're begging the question of what the moon and sun really are in the first place
calling something you see as a circle in the sky a ball is a jump in logic when you never even touched it, i will though, give you that going by occam's razor, saying that it's a ball is more likely
also, are you the schizo guy that religiously posts shit from that site?

Again you are a nigger so let me help you understand. White people sometimes do things when there is no guarantee of material gain. When you focus on material gain you learn nothing. Thats why the dark ages lasted so long.

white people: we went to the moon and landed on it

nigger says: Why? All you got were some rocks.

...Navigation doesn't use the north star, not specifically or necessarily anyway. To use a sextant, you just need to know where any celestial body should be at the time of year which lets you find your latitude. The north star just happens to be an easy choice at night in the northern hemisphere since it's close enough to the same position every time.

By the way you gonna explain how the southern cross works? How can you look away from north in different directions in australia and south america and south africa, and see the same stars in all three directions?

Oh here's a fun one, why can you make three 90 degree turns and end up in the same spot you started if it's flat? Cartography which should be exceedingly easy suddenly becomes a game where you have to use math to create projections and account for...curvature. There's a reason it took so long to make accurate maps and why we've spent millions in the past on surveying.

Why the fuck would this exist if it was flat? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visconte_Maggiolo

I’m fairly sure the moon itself is completely fake.

are the usual schizos still in the threads?

how is it fake if you can see it in the sky? at least say that what (((they))) tell us it is are lies or something

I know you really want a gotcha with the three body problem, but the real problem is you completely misunderstanding that this requires all three bodies to have a meaningful influence on one another. Polaris is really fucking far away, the sun is MUCH bigger than earth, and the moon is miniscule. They orbit each other much fine because how's the moon gonna pull anything off its path? It's like saying that cannonballs can't work because the headwind will blow it back in your face.

And do you really not think that we haven't built a space simulator before or what? Google it, they're often free.

This website, on every thread, has people just writing nonsense; it's mostly a waste of time where people insist on their models without yielding or caring what the other person is saying.

yeah, that is part of what burned me out when i stopped posting in these threads

Exactly. “Why didn’t they go back again?” Unequivocally means the moon landing was faked.

Also why didn’t they build anymore circuit city stores after the mid 2000s? This is proof positive that Circuit City stores were faked. Show me a circuit citythat actually exists in person. You can’t.

Oh nevermind you weren't talking about the three body problem, instead you're even more retarded and thought that seasons are due to the earth literally moving on its tilt. Look at the image, this is third grade science class shit.

It doesnt heckin MOOOVE

Yes it doooes. Literally every visible star has been measured this way. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_parallax

When you focus on material gain

I didn't ask what was the material gain, I asked what was the gain of going to the Moon for real because the other anon asked what was the gain of faking it

white people: we went to the moon and landed on it

So why did they stop after 1972

We orbited the Earth

But we still orbit it for 50 years straight

But with the Moon

Yeah we landed on it

And never went again

Soon there'll be no men alive that walked on the Moon (allegedly)

Also why didn’t they build anymore circuit city stores after the mid 2000s?

Do any stores exist
By your logic

They stopped the Apollo program in 1972

But there are other manned Moon landing missions under other brands

OK, which ones ?

I’m not sure how (((they))) are involved but I’m sure they are. It’s just a projection.

Believe it or not, the incompetence of the human race in doing pointless cool things twice doesn't provide you any evidence or reason to believe it fake

so like a bat symbol from batman?

This post is too stupid to really decipher what you are trying to say. Can you rephrase?

Earth is torus-shaped and partially hollow with openings to the inside on both north and south poles.

At the north pole an ocean flows inwards, to the inside of the Earth and you won't see it from the perspective of a boat or plane due to scale, because of how huge it is, it's hundreds and hundreds of miles in circumference. You would have to be partially inside to notice it by looking upwards and you would see ocean's water and the farther you would go, the less and less sky and more water over your head until you go to the other side and will start seeing less and less water over your head and more and more inner atmosphere "sky".

There is a reason why millions of animals migrate towards the north when cold and why there are aurora borealis and why colorful pollen can be found on snow and ice in the Arctic and why frozen animals and plants can be found in fresh-water glaciers in the north pole. They come from the inside.

Electromagnetic field affects the size of an organism, that's why there is a phenomenon called "polar gigantism" where genetically same organisms grow bigger in weaker electromagnetic fields, compared to their counterparts living in normal electromagnetic field and that's due to Earth being partly hollow and its openings to the inside on both poles, which makes it torus-shaped and that's why electromagnetic field is weaker at poles and the reason for why planes nor satellites fly over poles.

1. sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/02/190214153125.htm
2. nbcnews.com/mach/science/deep-inside-earth-scientists-find-weird-blobs-mountains-taller-mount-ncna997111

Mountains and oceans found INSIDE the Earth, because it's partly hollow and torus is not a perfect ball, that's why it's possible in certain places to have a long flat land and due to scale you won't notice its torus shape from the altitude of these balloons with cameras mounted on them.

Yeah, but more jewish

pointless cool thing

Show me in Kennedy's speech where he says that

doesn't provide you any evidence or reason to believe it fake

Doesn't provide the evidence it was real either but you're moving the goal post
The question was

What's the gain in going to the Moon

Did you lose all the pictures and video of circuit city too?

I answered your question nigger. Be gone. Go play with a lion or something.

By ending those Circuit City stores (some brand I guess ?) the humanity wasn't left with no stores at all. You have Lidl, Walmart etc
By ending the Apollo humanity was left with no manned Moon missions whatsoever. No Heracles or Prometheus missions

Listen to this homo erectis
Gay dick

I have no idea what circuit city is, I presumed it was a store brand like Lidl.
Your concession is accepted

Its basically "best buy" kinda of a crappt computer store for moms

What's the gain in going to the Moon

- Propaganda on American excellence
- We didn't have any good quality photos of the moon and its rocks, and we were curious what we ought to know in case it turns out to be useful.
- Research and development into rocketry, life in zero gravity, acceleration, materials science, and computing.
As you can see, faking it really only provides the first benefit at best. Which the russians would have called us out on immediately, or we would have called them out on faking it all instead of going on a fake multibillion dollar moon landing adventure

To take all the budget allocated to space for black ops? You’re amazingly uncreative. 1/10 immigrant tier

-backfired
-no pictures
-hasnt changed in 60 years just git the ok to use neclear

mass attracts mass, proven fact of all masses

The earth doesn't collapse under its own mass because I said so

I have no evidence besides shitty photographs where I tell you what you're seeing

We filmed it with tv cameras

We filmed it on film

We photographed it on film

We recorded every last bit of audio

The film and tv cameras and audio always match perfectly, there's not a single contradiction in existence

Absolutely zero sound refutations of the lighting and quality of any photographs, nor how they managed to sync perfectly

This alone is enough honestly

Do you seriously think this is a fish or something and not a chunk of ice?

There are multiple videos that show that broadcasts even in modern times have been faked from multiple countries not just the US. That said the first broadcast is 100% fake as it had a delay under 2 seconds which is impossible as it would break the speed of light.

Well moms can still buy computers but men can't go to the Moon.
I see that kind of argument sometimes raised but it's not a good one because if you say "well we can't make a Model T any more" you're forgetting we have cars now that beat Model T in literally every single spec. It goes pretty much for everything. Can't build WW2 planes, cathode TVs, Amiga computers or Babbage - we still have the functionality of all those things but 100x better and 10x cheaper. We should have had tourists on the Moon by now

That said the first broadcast is 100% fake as it had a delay under 2 seconds which is impossible as it would break the speed of light

Provide your evidence and I'll provide you with a simple refutation. You're mistaken by default but I'm willing to give you a chance to defend your bullshit. Show me the impossible delay you're talking about.

none of that exclusive to them actually going

Absolutely zero sound refutations of the lighting and quality of any photographs, nor how they managed to sync perfectly

i can dig up an instance of a gay saying something before the required delay from the original recordings if that counts as a refutation

gay

he was probably gay too, but i meant guy

Propaganda on American excellence

You get that from faking it as well and Kennedy's speech was more about that and nothing about science

-We didn't have any good quality photos of the moon and its rocks, and we were curious what we ought to know in case it turns out to be useful.

Research and development into rocketry, life in zero gravity, acceleration, materials science, and computing.

Both of those would benefit from continuing missions yet they stopped after 4 years

Which the russians would have called us out on immediately

Russians had no way of knowing whether the Apollo spacecrafts were crewed

The moon is the size of australia. If it had landed on earth it would have left evidence stoopid.

Go for it dude, I'd love to see it.

Before you embarass yourself though, perhaps consider thinking about this: Where is the audio recorded from?

The call-and-response delay would only be a few seconds from the time it takes for an astronaut to receive a message, think about it, then respond back. Any responses from say Houston would have no delay as they are the ones recording, there's no waiting in that direction, only from the moon not to the moon.

>Absolutely zero sound refutations of the lighting and quality of any photographs, nor how they managed to sync perfectly

There's a bunch of refutations from professional photographers concerning hotspots and fall-offs, there are even webms of it circulating here

The film and tv cameras and audio always match perfectly,

So ? Goes for pretty much any movie. There was that lack of delay on Nixon's phone call that was corrected in the 50th anniversary edition and it's pretty damning

No anon said that you stupid maple sapling

There's a bunch of refutations from professional photographers concerning hotspots and fall-offs, there are even webms of it circulating here

And about 10 times more from professional photographers calling them full of shit and then demonstrating those lighting effects on earth youtube.com/watch?v=8z917pbxsKA

Goes for pretty much any movie

Movies have this shit called editing. The moon landing is DAYS of footage, photographs, audio. Multiple missions. There's no editing, it's just magically synced perfectly by default with no fuckups or cuts. It's the most advanced, perfect, amazing one-shot film ever made apparently. That or it was real.

Lol this guy is samefagging to hard he is talking to himself

You can break the ball theory 20 different ways .
The ball tards cannot provide a single legit proof of the ball.

cartoons and green screen movies are not proofs

sticks are not proofs

3 body problem failed , not a single scinentist can solve it

can see ships and oil platforms too far

>not a single airplane or ship can see a ball or see any rotation

not a single military manual says you need to assume there's a ball

not a single gyroscope saw rotation

At one point or another, you need to provide PROOFS .

The audio delay from the first moon landing was under 2 seconds at certain points. This in itself doesn't prove the moon landing was fake but it proves the broadcast was at the very least not live as they claimed.
For the delay simply go check the original video on youtube of President Nixon talking to Apollo 11. Here you will see the president talk and sometimes ask questions to them, there are a few times there's a 2 second or less than 2 second delay between them answering his question. The reason this would be impossible is because radio signals travel the the speed of light and the moon on average is 384,399 km away. At the closest the moon is 363 104 km away, can't remember how far away the moon was from the earth or specifically the US at the time of the call and don't feel like looking it up, you are free to do so. But even if we assume it was as close as it could have been (it wasn't) then it would still be 1.21 light seconds away (light travels at about 300000 km/s). This means the signal from earth needs to reach the moon (1.21 seconds) then for us on earth to see the response the signal has to come back from the moon to earth again (1.21+1.21=2.42 seconds of delay) And this is assuming there is zero delay on any other part, this is just the least amount of delay there can be unless you believe they had faster than light technology.
There are also other instances where this sub 2 second delay is found pic related.

from what i remember, the dalay is around 1.25 seconds one way, and the guy that was supposedly on the moon replied in under 500 milliseconds twice

This only works on a 2D plane is the problem. Add an additional point, not aligned to any of the other points. Suddenly, the sun's position is now impossible and the math stops working. You calculate a different elevation of the sun every single time you try.

Needless to say, this doesn't occur on a globe. But feel free to show your math works.

Since we are discussing "moon".
This is what... maybe 200 years of ocean currents data collected by US gov.

ncei.noaa.gov/products/global-ocean-currents-database

This is an animation of ocean currents.
This CANNOT possibly be caused by one object in the sky.

yet disproved the ball and moon one more time.