Computer Science majors ranked 7th in undergrad unemployment

al.com/news/2025/05/popular-college-major-has-one-of-the-highest-unemployment-rates.html?outputType=amp

“Seeing such a high unemployment rate for majors like computer science may stun many Americans. After all, it’s been one of the most encouraged majors in recent years due to the unprecedented need in the field by many businesses,” Alex Beene, a financial literacy instructor for the University of Tennessee at Martin, told Newsweek.

“However, an abundance of those who major in a field doesn’t necessarily create more talent, and as many companies have developed more complex needs, they often want employees more skilled with a proven track record of success. As a result, some new graduates may find it more difficult than expected to obtain a job, especially in our current environment where some employers are scaling back.”

“Computer science majors have long been sold a dream that doesn’t match reality. Pick the ‘right’ major, work hard, and you’ll land a stable, high-paying job. But just like many majors and related jobs, the reality hits hard - too many grads, not enough jobs, crippling student debt and a market that rewards pedigree over potential,” Bryan Driscoll, a human resources consultant, told Newsweek.

just pick one of the trades, it pays well

That's because as we outsource manufacturing the technology innovation jobs that require CS workers are mostly existing in other countries we outsourced the industry to. This is good though because CS students can be useful in other lines of work such as designing robot factory line implementations at the new Toaster company plant.

It's looking over to me bro. This is for poors

you're in romania

a market that rewards pedigree

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Fine arts should be one of the most difficult majors in the country to get into. Instead we let a bunch of useless untalented unmotivated tards glue stick squares and triangles like a fucking kindergarten. Embarrassing what has happened to my precious art.

There is another alternative. Trump will bring back those jobs from China. America needs your workforce, anons!

No matter what you do, never go into gaming, it's salve labor.
As a programmer, doing anything else, you'll be fine even in a small organization.

yes, that makes me whiter than you

Well, what are the top ten best?

What do you do? What did it take to get to where you are now?

Anthropology too frankly. An incredibly important field filled with mediocrity and Marxism.

The article says degrees concerning nutritional science, civil engineering, and construction

He's on Anon Babble.

civil engineering

Based, America needs to build

What are you guys going to do about it? Start teaching

nutritional science

That's crazy. Establishment nutrition is 100% lies and bullshit.

Bad data, STEM majors are a lot more likely to hold out and find a job actually in their major.
I'll tell you right now that the 93% of employed fine arts majors definitely do not have a fine arts related jobs.

I don’t know the fix. These majors are flooded. Higher education in general should be more competitive and curtailed with people funneled into trade schools, but that will never happen. Too much money being made.

import 1 million pajeets

no jobs in any sector

We need robots not tradecels

That's why we need more H1B because they are not willing to work.id they did they would not be unemployed

Where do you want people to work? They've got to work somewhere, and make money somehow to live and buy what they want. And there's a lot of people.

It will be decades before robots make any meaningful replacement on civil construction if ever.

Skilled trade labor is literally going to be the South Park meme in the coming decade. Electricians will be driving around in phantoms while the Ivy League cuck makes his morning coffee.

physics is higher than sociology?

Yet somehow we need more H1B's because there aren't enough computer scientists and engineers. Really makes you think.

We will suffer a brain drain. A lot of engineers will be finding work in China and other parts of East Asia

The actual reason is retarded management hires 10 H1B dot-headed niggers, to do the work of 5 real Americans, then hires 1 American to clean up their fucking mess. Been that way for over a decade.

Anthropology would be a major contributor to society and world peace if the Jews didn't run it. Because the Father of Jews is the Father of Lies, so it is not usable in the real world to help us get along and live peacefully together. But it is a fascinating subject.

Is the STEM degree myth finally over? Can you imagine thinking getting a degree in physics would actually lead to being able to make a living? Fucking lol. Academia as a whole has bought into its own propaganda more than anyone else, the only people who make money with STEM degrees are the best of the best who are actually able to innovate in those fields, everyone else who wastes their time getting a STEM degree is simply there to fund the program so that the top 1% of geniuses have somewhere to study before getting sent to burger king to flip patties for the rest of their lives for being gullible enough to buy into the idea that the world has any use for hundreds of thousands of physics majors. We only need a handful of the very best physicists, everyone else would just be getting in the way. This is true for all STEM fields. Pick a degree that's applicable in the real world, not just in a classroom.

Think about what? You're not going to do anything.

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Actually 3rd, 7th, and 9th considering all of those are interchangeable in the job market.

We have very little going on in physics. LHC produced almost nothing.

Any article that doesn’t mention foreign labor as the reason for STEM unemployment is a shit article

Fuck your bullshit statistics. Employment rate is under 40%; unemployment is total nonsense political garbage or >60%.

I remember in high school getting a teacher that presented it as a true science and it was fascinating. It got to the point I started looking at it as a career path. Moment I got into community college I signed up for soc class only for the teacher to be some onions looking fuck talking about his adopted hatian kids and half the tests were questions about why brack pepo is be racisted toward n' shiet, truly cancer, never looked back on the subject after that class...was really looking forward to writing and studying what made people tick.

I don't know what to study. I don't know what to do. I don't really have ambition, drive, or interest. I would just prefer to not live poor for my entire life.

physics

good thing I dropped out, same result probably

Why are your parents poor? They've lived here for how many generations?

This just means we need more Indian immigration! Think about the GDP!

Philosophy bros, I'm thinking we're back!

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I would just prefer to not live poor for my entire life.

Here's the thing, anon
Life as a r selected cattle (when your lineage lacks capital, social power and meaningful inheritance, when you will have to struggle against other millions/billions of cattle for scraps) is a nightmare.
Most people don't even realize that they are slaves and will reproduce their subhumanity for egoistical reasons.

And where do you place Brazil in your analysis?

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They're not, but they're going to put me out on my ass

The government has classified physics and is artificially causing it to stagnate. Marc Andreessen was told by the Biden White House that entire areas of physics are kept secret.

Been there done that. Not only does it not pay well, but the job security is even worse; especially with the shilling to temp everyone to fomo into it.

physics 7.8%

I never understood the physics shilling. What jobs are there, just teaching more physics?

guy installing my AC had to miss 3 weeks of work (and wages) because he pulled his back

high schools and peers tell kids to all be doctors or do computer science.

well if everyone's doing the same thing, is every single person in the country going to be rich and make it?

not surprised about art majors though. that's always been an old joke like "what did the art major say"" you want fries with that?"

if you go to college. don't just major in something because you hear it makes good money or because everyone else is doing it. fuck money, just choose something you'd actually enjoy. something you think is interesting. that's the point of college. not what people are doing now turning it into just about what job you can get. people used to go to college because they wanted to learn. because they had a drive and fascination with a subject they cared about.

Brazil

Tier B Economic Zone

It's a scam.

Been trying to get into the IT / Tech industry since 2013s with a AA degree from a reputable university.
IT is basically a casting couch metaphorically. The last thing the interviewer / roastie HR is interested in is your actual technical ability, but more about your ability to 'fit' in with the group culture (e.g. playing certain types of video games) or smooth talk customers like a salesman.
Factor that in with all the 'little endian' (pun intended) they're bringing in to facilitate the great replacement, and it gets much worse.
If an IT adminisrator, doesn't know how to decode a for loop/array plus regex (which I admit I put off for too long until encountering Linux Bash terminal), you know they likely fit the mold of the casting couch. And thus deserve as much respect as a roastie who plays around with Microsoft Excel Spreadsheet at a 'job' (like those dancing TikTok videos), instead of nurturing their ADHD kid.

it's all under 10%

Really?

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Don't put your hands on minors. No shit

Start a company

That and hand-wavey storytelling (theoretical physics).

Millions of...

No... billions...

Here we go... TRILLIONS of years ago...

I agree that some degrees are worthless. But expecting a young adult with zero real world experience to pick a major in a job they think they may enjoy after 2/4/6/8 years in college and not knowing how the job market will pan out even 1 or 2 years down the road due to tariffs is laughable. The real issue is our education system is designed for the high school to college pipeline with less and less of a focus on the real world. Basic economics is an elective now which is rarer and rarer from my understanding.
It really is a lot of compounding issues causing the current issues but as a whole in the US we really are failing young adults. Treating teenagers as being incapable of making decisions one minute then expecting them to pick a degree and hopefully they don't change majors making dozens of credit hours a waste and going deep into debt. Really is backwards just on that basis alone. Revamp education system. Bake basic associate degrees into high school curriculum. Middle school is new graduation and you can go work basic walshart or uber delivery jobs after that.

She was under 35

Under 18 in most states
Take it up with your lawmakers

The problem with computer science is it’s gotten to a point where only those with at least a 130iq can get actual software development jobs, so you get a lot of people who get CS degrees from non-competitive state schools and are left holding their dick in their hands because that caliber of student is useless.

The job market is complete ass right now.
Even the supposed "trades" are oversaturated and competitive. Millions of other men are selling their services, and you have to be top dog to make it there. The top 1%. Not that different from computer majors desu.

What company or NII?

The job market is complete ass right now.

its exactly why I have NEETBux, Ive just given up and i refuse to work in some retail fuckhole

it doesn't mean they are working in the field they studied, most of them are probably working at mcdonalds

Ya they need more people now to uncover the real truths lol.

Yup. The jobs are all going to their family and friends.

They really don't. The median pay for teachers is higher than electricians.

But I am a welder who opened my own business and I earn $600,000 a year

And some teachers become superintendants.

I was a physics major and saw early on that I was not nearly good enough to be usefully employed at that. So I switched to chemistry. It saved me from having a shit career honestly. And I barely made it at that! Lab skills are still useful. But I still got laid off recently lol. I don't think that people's skills and usefulness matter much anymore either. It's all networking.

What about an optional fifth year of high school dedicated to adulthood trades and colleges

I think you have to be a union electrician. Teachers are all in the union automatically I think.

Depends on the career choice and industry. Small field and people take much more notice of competence and incompetence.

it's way higher because a lot of these grads you can find working at cracker barrel

Where should they have gone instead? What should they have studied? What can they do now?

How'd you get NEETBux? How much is it to live on really? You don't have hope for a future with a wife and kids?

Computer science degree holders are less hirable than liberal arts degree holder

No. The only reason education last until 12th grade is because it is government sponsored childcare.
Before the great depression, it was very rare to graduate high school. Most people finished middle school then went to work.
Great depression meant it was hard to feed your family because no jobs. No jobs as a middle schooler meant your family was better off sending you to the free (tax payer paid) high school to at least get 1 free meal a day.
Immigration after WW2 made the extended education a better time to integrate immigrant children to be americanized. With that compounded with immigration reform in 1960s. Now with a mongrel race demographic high school has evolved into a beat children to work basic office jobs when there are fewer and fewer office type jobs, at least it was that way when I graduated in 2012.

What I really believe needs to happen is axe no child left behind, separate races into different schools, possibly separate genders into different schools, condense k-12 into k-8 while actually holding people back if they cannot keep up. Have some gutter school program for the true retards where they are at least taught how to keep a job and push a button on an assembly line if those jobs are automated out of existence. Keeping an education system in place able to keep up with a rapidly changing environment when school boards are ran by boomers that can hardly even comprehend the challenges children face is a setup for failure.
My entire idea is built around a job market which doesn't change in the future. The US is primarily a service economy now and not everyone is capable of working these types of jobs. No matter your job you have to play to some aspect of the service economy. I'm an IT monkey that makes servers and network for my company tick and I have to do my share of licking boots and pissing people off with a smile. Not really a skill you are taught in school. Or maybe UBI will make my idea moot.

What are some good majors for getting a job? No memes, associates degree included.

Pfft. the guys who the businesses maybe. Not those capping at $15-$25 and hour.

anon your entire IT field is saturated with hindus, we're talking billions of good jobs being stolen for no good reason whatsoever

So the state is running a scam?

And you do? kek

And thats why Im a middle school teacher. These retards don't even know how to read lol. And summers off.

The same [mass importation of cheap foreigners] will happen to other jobs, just wait and see.

if you go to college. don't just major in something because you hear it makes good money or because everyone else is doing it. fuck money, just choose something you'd actually enjoy

YASSS QUEEEN

Take $250K in student loan debt for your Alaskan basket weaving masters.

sigh

What are some good majors for getting a job?

Drop out and get a job.

How is that different than a codecel degree?

Trade cuckery is gatekept by boomers unions to keep non family members

yea, and you'd have jobs too if you ever wanna be friendos again

To be fair the programmer market will bounce back when another bubble starts.

I wouldn't get a degree for it, especially not at the price colleges are charging, but this is absolutely an expected part of the cycle.

I went from making 83k my first gig to 172k after like 2 courses of embedded systems

what about IT Cybersecurity? am i fucked?

Oh god please be true.
I got a CS degree 3 years ago and I'm still working at a warehouse destroying my back and knees. I did the internships and projects like I was supposed to but nobody would hire me.
The only one was a company in California that needed someone who isn't Indian to make it more diverse

Oh and Alaskan Basket Weaving/Interpretive dance will never under any circumstances be valuable things to study. Those are the degrees of the ultra rich who don't need to take loans to go to school.

aka a bunch of autistic kids that being an epic gamer and going to a coding bootcamp would get them 300k/year until they realize they cant screech their way though an interview

In other words, there are lots of retards with compsci degrees. The university gladly takes their money and the workforce says they are too incompetent to code.

Ya it's fucked man. You better work your ass off. They're not looking for entry level shitheads.

pick your poison with trade school
white collar work is on its way out

I'm sure there's already a bunch of CS majors trying to migrate over to that. It's looking grim.

muh education needs to be for the real world

No, companies need to learn how train people again, instead of everything just being handed to them.

TLDR Indian niggers are cheaper.

It's looking grim everywhere. The jeetening is accelerating in CS and IT. AI is threatening entry level work, and they're not hiring entry level anyways. It's fucking bad out there. For those that can crack it in IT, hell desk and MSPs are where to start. For CS you better have been a studycel, otherwise it's hell desk and MSP work kek.

In my company and field, networking, it used to be a CCNA would get you an entry level gig. Now we're not looking unless you have a CCNP + at least some helpdesk + programming + cloud + linux knowledge. It's actually fucking insane.

i wont have my bachelors until 2028, but im also collecting certs at the same time. i have 3 so far. should have 6 or 7 by the time i graduate. the plan is to get a bunch of comptia certs, some cisco certs, and a clearance. hoping the government will still be hiring then

Kek, people tried to talk me out of horse science and do something more marketable like programming but now I'm extremely employed and AI can never fully understand my line of work.

maybe they should learn to code

so 94% of graduates finds a job?
ok

Computer Engineering majors have a higher unemployment rate than sociology and fine arts majors.

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sigh

So a BA in Reddit-posting?

A shit job but with 300,000k in debt

Genuinly insane cant belive that these stats are real no finance at all? I thought most people study business

many companies have developed more complex needs

Many companies want to pay entry level wages for people with experience. Pajeets will accept the low wages and lie about their experience, making them the golden geese to bean counters who won't even notice the problem until their market collapses under the incompetence.

What's so funny? Once requires high IQ and creativity. The other is for 85iq jeets.

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The actual reason is retarded management hires 10 H1B dot-headed niggers, to do the work of 5 real Americans, then hires 1 American to clean up their fucking mess. Been that way for over a decade

Tech-anon has entered the chat!

More like 5+ million poopjeets here

Chemistry listed

Not Biology

No Biological, or life sciences, degrees listed

Explain, I'm a chem major with a job. They want us from everything from civil engineering to material science to medical and pharmaceutical.

I'm glad student loans aren't a thing here
American CS fools got screwed over hard

Try to get an internship, and try not to forget what you learn in your certs, and try not to be an absolute sperg and fucking NETWORK. Like, learn to talk to people, join a group or something and you'll do well. And honestly? Set up a home lab. Good luck bro. Maybe try to go entry level networking first, like network admin or something. The problem is that it seems like everyone and their mother is coming to the same conclusion and it's rough. And if you fail to get an entry level job in your chosen field it aint the end of the world, just take your knocks in a decent help desk or MSP job. It's absolute misery, but if you learn while doing it and studycel it up you can grab something in a year or two.

Oh, and comptia aint shit. Dont even bother with the N+, get the CCNA. Get the A+ just because it's fucking simple and you need to know a lot of that shit, especially if you don't have hardware knowledge. Government and hr roasties love sec+ for some fucking reason but it's a shitty cert too. CYSA is decent. Cisco certs are good for networking, everyone in IT should at least have a CCNA. Other than that IDK, I have devnet associate but it barely scratches the surface of network automation. RHSCA is good for linux. I don't know much about cyber security other than hardening the network and firewalls. There's a metric fuckload of specialties in cyber security. Pick a team, red or blue, and go try to specialize.

And by 2028 the market is either going to be better or IT is going to be in the gutter. Best of luck.

sociology

high IQ

Lmao

At McDonald's, yes

Either don’t go to school or study something like finance/accounting and shoot for a big 4/consulting job. If you’re really at a no-name state school though then look for entry level financial analyst roles. Most in major cities pay like 70k starting.

Yes? Your point being?

The HR roasties are fucking retarded for only looking at pedigree. TOTAL HR DEATH. I've had to sort through resumes myself and tell them to change the fucking job description because they add all sorts of shit we don't need or want. It's insane.

Durkheim

Adorno

Bourdieu

Yes. Your IQ actually increases while you're trying to figure out what they have written

thanks anon. im a bit older student with life/work experience already. that shitty life is fuel to my fire right now. this AI takeover / shit job market is also setting a fire under my ass. the home labs, virtual network and physical server, are already deployed. luckily, my college/state has been literally paying me to show up to certification training programs and also paying for my cert exams. the social networking is what got me that opportunity, and they could lead to internships. trying to make the most of my time here. i dont want to be a bartender again

If you aint payin for it grab anything you can get, but I'd still try to get a mid level cert. Gotta do your research. Like I said, if all else fails MSP or decent help desk job can open up doors.

To be the optimist

How do Indian immigrants get hired then they surely don't have all this

horse science

What

When I was going to high school in 2009 they told me to go to university and study comp sci.

BIG MISTAKE I'M UNEMPLOYED AND JEETS TOOK MY JOB FOR 10 CENTS ON THE DOLLAR.

So you like to cope a lot.

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I know young dudes on their 4th year of apprenticeship that are making 32 an hour. It's not bad. After that they get their journeyman license and they're doing pretty good.

Computer engineering is actually higher which is kind of shocking. That’s a very technical field and those guys usually can work a variety of different jobs that aren’t code monkey stuff. They must be outsourcing a lot of labor to foreign countries.

Fuck me I'm taking computer science classes but reading this thread is like I need to join the free mason lodge with all these trials and tribulations. I was looking for a comfy job. Where do I go now?

Graduated college in 2017. Got my CCNA R/S, Comptia A+, Network+, Security+.

Haven't worked a single day in IT because no one will hire me.

My certs have now expired and I spent a lot of money on them.
Thinking of taking my winchester sxp defender 12ga pump action shotgun and doming myself.

Are you being serious? Anon don't

what happened with engineering?

Indians

You got scammed. You should ask for a refund.

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Sad

I think this is a demoralization post

The coronacircus plandemic proved that medical doctors are selected for obedience, greed, and willingness to put in long hours. Not for actual intelligence.

Reality demoralizes you?

can't cure a single disease

somehow have lots of money

Doctors are scammers. Jeet scammers.

That guy is ugly

I get so much software engineer offers from the US and Im not even indian, your companies are outsourcing heavily because you priced yourself out of the market. Time to work for McD amerifats

He just needs to go to the gym.

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I had a 4.0 and it took me close to a year and 700 applications to get the job. If I was a freshman right now, I'd 100% do engineering instead

Amerisharts have fat fingers and can't work mcjobs either.

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Which route do you think you would've chosen specifically? I've been eyeing electrical engineering. These jobs are gate kept as well. You need to know people to get interviews and you need to be liked.

Unironically stick it out. Job market is shit across the board right now. The only "safe" careers are unionized trades and medicine. Every other career is fair game. If you manage to get hired you'll be underpaid regardless across all fields.

This is a scammer.

Stupid computer faggots. I told you that "Learning to Code" was a waste of time. You should have been learning a skilled trade like electrician or plumbing. You would have incurred no debt and would be guaranteed a job. You deserve what happens to you.
P.S. The reason most of you can't find jobs is because your personalities are very off-putting, and the HR roasties and managers who interview you hate you. The jobs are out there.

Unironically stock it out.

If you manage to get hired you'll be underpaid regardless across all fields.

What kind of advice is that

Everyone I know who went to training for a trade can't get a job either. CNC is really hard to get into, Line work won't even look at you unless you know someone and a veteran, plumbing, concrete, carpentry won't take you unless you are under 24 because it breaks bodies so hard. Welding isn't hard to break into because you'll lose your eyesight and inhale toxic gas in a few years.

Learn a trade is just a zoomer version of "learn to code"

People laughed at me 10 years ago when I said getting a CoSci degree was retarded.

Or get a real engineering degree and be useful to society.

Civil engineering is a meme unless you get the masters.

Not what someone I know has to say about it

do you want me to tell him to become a crackhead?

You are not supposed to go a trade school. You are supposed to find union apprenticeships near your location and apply to them.

Why can't they just give the entire list? What, the pixels are too expensive?

Can't forget the most import part of all modern human life

and buy what they want.

Why? For the money?
This is literally all bugs think about. It's why the US is disgusting and broken.
Foreign, materialistic, conformist, small-souled mentality.

Engineering is dealing with shitskins and plant managers with unrealistic expectations all day while breathing down your neck because of JIT and LEAN principles. Not to mention doing multiple roles and being paid for one. You'd be better off in finance.

If you want to be useful for society, it isn't engineering that is needed, it's judges.

You are supposed to find union apprenticeships near your location and apply to them.

You might as well tell people to sell pokemon cards because unions barely take anyone

Not being an Indian is a plus. Having scammed so much people, only nepotistic indian management outsource to India now

The science of horse. Breeding, nutrition and behaviour mostly.

Construction master race here, feels good to be kang. I am fucking laughin at all the tech nerds learning how to weld.

Based

He jerks off horses at stud farms

The majority of those majors are memes unless you're one of the lucky ones to get a job in those limited fields.
Which you're not, because when a hundred million kids are shoved through college and 90% of them stick to half a dozen studies, you end up with a thousand unemployed physicists for every one that is actually needed and just becomes the next McJob.

Also, AI is going to fuuuuuck "skilled" jobs hard.

Yeah, they all got replaced by jeets with fake degrees and do those jobs for less.

6.1% unemployment rate

So does that mean the other 93.9% of grads are employed in a computer science-related field?

This is heavily true, but also not. I've been doing all kinds of work with computers for 20+ years, but approach it like blue collar work. Can talk just fine, but always glanced over technical shit and had trouble with interviews. Hell, just saying I didn't know servicenow, but was willing to learn, was already enough for them to tell you "next."

What you are talking about is very true, but it comes in a variety of flavors. Not just being able to ace tech interviews, but not smooth talking.

The issue isn't just HR, it's also that the work is overvalued and hyperinflated and none of it actually matters all that well aside from a few top performers across the entire industry.

BWAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Dude, listen. Cybersec work takes a certain mindset and if you needed a degree for it, you likely aren't suitable for it. How good are you with IDA pro or memory exploitation?

What you should do with that, is pivot it into something like AML and pair it with accounting. You'll have much better luck you stupid zoomer retard.

This is absolute retard advice. If you have any networking skills at all and can't hack it, you can make MUCH better money in industrial controls and can pivot to OT cybersec.

ITfags are incredibly insufferable.

it's a shit career now anyways. I was a network engineer for a decade but even that hands on work is getting siphoned off into jewcloud dashboard-managed bullshit surrounded by days filled with jeet accents. no thanks

What do blokes who want to be software devs do

kek that dude is 100% jewish

they aspire to work with retarded pajeets

Take your gun and wave it around at an interview, they will be more likely to listen.

This is very true.

Must be funny huh jack ass
When the sciences stagnate so does innovation

Get much better and build a product. 90% of SWEs are mad insufferable to work with and the others are jeets. Do you really want to build CRUDs all day and work with your stupid faggot javascript plugging it into grafana and your shit postgres database while trying to hit all your KPIs?

If not, learn actual systems programming, legacy systems or go into shit that produces real results with shit that actually matters. Industrial automation is an area here, but you faggots need to learn that you can actually kill someone if you fuck up.

computer engineering is 3rd...

It’s dumb for schools outside the top 5 to even offer physics, computer engineering, or most cs

Why? You only need an 85 IQ to do those jobs.

Not the point of discussion

Unless you join the military to get security clearances youre FUCKED. Enjoy helpdesk.

what about civilian cybsec jobs

Funny thing is, those want security clearances as well.

God fucking god you're retarded!
22% children under age 16 don't count
16% retired elderly don't count.
Housewives, military, expats - don't count

170 million jobs
171 million workers in the labor pool*

*Not a straight match up. Some workers work two jobs, some workers unemployed

they are cheap and won't leave your company

Das rite. Mike Rowe style.

Never had any problems that this current gen is having, just giving what little knowledge I have to whoever wants to join the hell scape that is IT. Can't speak to much about industrial controls either, never even bothered with it.

You're a stupid pajeet

all accordion to plan
the purpose of computer engineers is to work as contractors for the US government, when working in coms, to program the american people.

the fact the unemployment is so high is because they're seeking out the cream of the crop, the best NPC developers, not your run of the mill devs

saturate the market

poach the cream of the crop

throw out the remainder

give it 6 months and those jobs will be drying up left and right.

whore science
jewish mysticism

More than African American studies and gender studies?

Physics and math bro here. Studied in US. Saw writing on the wall 25 years ago with my bros and went into finance, patents and other intellectual property. Make 7 figs now. Could work in any field really. Key is learning logic, how to think, how to solve problems in non intuitive ways. Finance bros learn dumbed down math and logic.

English literature is unironically the best major post AI.

there aren't enough computer scientists and engineers willing to live in squalor and work for the bare minimum possible wage they can get.

to do the work of 5

It's worse than that, even tech jeets are laughably retarded, it's closer to 3 to 5 jeets to make up the productivity of one white worker, and the slop the jeets manage to produce won't work anyway.

No matter what you do, never go into gaming, it's slave labor.

As a programmer, doing anything else, you'll be fine even in a small organization.

Programming industrial controls and PLC controllers is kind of fun, I spent 10 years doing that in silicon valley, it is kind of shocking to see the crashing employment market for coders, this is kind of a huge story, how many unemployed coders are there now stuck with huge loans?

You realize mandatory DEI/Diversity hiring laws would force his new company to become the same mess, yeah? That shit already happens here all the goddamn time.

don't have X% of your workforce as women?

fines and constant court visits until you remedy that, potential revokation of business or trade licenses if you refuse to remedy it.

company is too white

More fines, potential court time, and the next shitskin who applies and doesn't get hired can and will take your asses to court for discrimination, and if they get a jew or christcuck judge they'll win. Potential business/trade license revokations if you don't remedy it

not enough/no DEI hires

He'll go broke because all the big companies are getting private financing, subsidies, etc to hire DEI applicable candidates.

It doesn't matter if you hire the experienced white man, if ranjesh has the same level(or higher) of education and experience on paper the courts will side with him, even if his degree/experienxe from rammalammadingdongpreet university of the schooling is fake.

None of this DEI shit matters unless you are a public company. As a private company, you can pretty much do whatever you want. If you want extra gubmint bux then yes, you might be forced to start putting DEI hires. None of you have ever owned a company and it shows.

Lol not even ai

As a private company, you can pretty much do whatever you want.

unless you are handling gummint contracts, which a lot of tech corps do

oh well i'll have to change the fake education entry on my CV from computer science to public policy and law now.

Yeah, PUBLICLY traded tech companies, not random startups that do IT consulting with 1-10 employees.

Learning logic and how to think has always been linked to high culture and positive outcomes, such as survival intelligence, health, standard of living, etc. I would claim at some level it is amplified in volatile scenarios, such as periods of challenge and growth.
New emergent technology threatening your career? Just know enough about a few disciplines to be dangerous, then you’re irreplaceable if you can put it all together. Be practical, versatile, and have multiple outs and aces in the hole, don’t be a slave for anyone else, and learn generalities, for they are the beauty of math, and the zoo of physics with its many beautiful creatures.
Seriously, think of any big-brained individual you could look up to as a role model, or the platonic adaptable human - they aren’t a one trick pony. They can adapt, as all great men in history have, and they take on new opportunities to become stronger, not weaker.
Applying old knowledge to new information is a necessary condition to obtain feedback for learning and growing.
Of course, “volatility” imagined as a scalar value, if such a thing could be condensed to a single dimension. here is the amplification gain.

graduate with a information systems degree

thought I would be doing cool it and database shit

work as a bank teller dealing with old retards money

As a manager in a construction firm, would you rather:
A) have a workforce that you can barely trust because, if they aren't lazy, they are drug addicted thieves.
B) robots that you have to course correct half as much, never takes shortcuts and is willing to work 24/7.
AI development isn't going to take construction jobs. Robotics catching up will.

Also, you can bid on government contracts and be a 1 man show and formed as an S-Corp with no issues and no DEI bullshit required. You can hire two of your friends and field techs for instance and do just fine.

Securing them, bidding on them and writing proposals, however, is another art form that OP or people like you, likely have no experience in doing though.

>graduate with a information systems degree

>thought I would be doing cool it and database shit

>work as a bank teller dealing with old retards money

what about your classmates? did any find cool jobs?

America is a shit hole.
Hard sciences on the list but not worthless majors like business, finance, management?
Explains why everything is falling apart.
We need a heavy handed government that will go full zerk and seize back 90% of assets of the wealthiest cunts.

Also, you can bid on government contracts and be a 1 man show and formed as an S-Corp with no issues and no DEI bullshit required.

list your wife as owner and get preferential gummint contract approval as female-owned, have seen this

dont know i dont keep in touch but some of them probably work help desk

IS is a business major you dimwit. IS focuses more on project management and strategy while aligning with business goals in IT rather than low level technical skills. Seriously, its amazing how fucking stupid college people are. You don't go into it to run databases. You go into it to, shmooze with higher up managers while getting your MBA and then go on to becoming one yourself and pursuing LEADERSHIP roles.

Hard sciences on the list but not worthless majors like business, finance, management?

think about it - how many hard science types do businesses that pay salaries need? not many. t. physics major

How stupid are you, really? The number one country with a number one fiat that PRINTS money as their main export isn't putting emphasis on hard sciences, but instead, values finance and management?

Gee, how many masters degrees did you have to get to not even figure this out? Real great engineer we have here.

dont know i dont keep in touch but some of them probably work help desk

keeping in touch is #1 way to change jobs, I got 2 jobs from school connections after I quit or got laid off

If we just kicked out foreigners, tech would be fine. And code would be better.

How mentally broken do you have to be to think that a 19yo being flirtatious with a 17yo is in any way wrong? Do you understand that all of your own ancestors would beat the shit out of you for even suggesting that and your father would watch and do nothing. That's not a joke, they really would gang up on you. Maybe that's why the left seem so cursed; their ancestors are ashamed.

it's pretty fucking retarded that all these states are mandating ethnic studies but not logic. Take a couple classes and learn your ands/ors modus buttsex, and you'll be 10x better at arguing and reasoning

ship all the stem jobs overseas

now only jobs remaining are CEO

business is the most valuable degree in america atm

If we just kicked out foreigners, tech would be fine. And code would be better.

go to any STEM University class, odds are 50% or more of the faculty and students are foreign, American high school kids aren't into STEM, half of them dont even graduate high school, then half of the college kids drop out, it is pretty dismal odds to get even one good STEM college grad out of the average graduating high school class in America

Coding isn't dead. Innovation is dead. How many of you are satisfied with the state of dating apps? Why isn't Coalfax (website that doxxed coalburners) back up? Why haven't video games innovated since pre-2010? The problem is we're importing workers who never create jobs; picrel is a proxy for entrepreneurship and jeets are at the bottom. They brag about getting high paying jobs, but they never CREATE high paying jobs, so there's no fuckin reason to import them unless you're a jewish CEO.

PLC is good but most of these CS kids would crumble in these environments. What do you do now?

You're such a fucking nigger for a guy in tech. Typical. Go fuck off, you're what makes this job miserable.

Wasted quads. We don't need quantity in tech - we need quality. And the pics I've posted demonstrate that jeets don't create jobs and they graduate with shittier educations than Americans.

I don't work in tech, nice try retard.

Innovation in tech has been dead since 2010

Take it up with your lawmakers

Says the little bitch that is not only complicit but fully supportive of denying young adults love and companionship, going so far as to demand incarceration with dangerous criminals because Stacy was 17 years 11 months 30 days 11 hours 59 minutes 59 seconds and 999 milliseconds old and clearly is a child that is incapable of making decisions like the pedophile who consensually raped her because he was one millisecond older.
When asked to defend YOUR position you immediately cuck to authority. You are the definition of normie and do not belong here.

Wasted quads.

no such thing, my post was certified as quality by the gods

And I'm open to out-sourcing R&D specifically, but there's no reason to outsource something like UI. Americans can live with shitty UIs. We can't live without jobs.

those cant all be CS grads, much doubt

Innovation in tech has been dead since 2010

proof you are not paying attention

how does physics and chemistry have that much unemployment wtf? specialyl physics they can just do whatever

Computer science majors have long been sold a dream that doesn’t match reality. Pick the ‘right’ major, work hard, and you’ll land a stable, high-paying job

Not saying the market isn't fucked, but most computer science majors, do not, in fact, work hard. A huge number of them are absolute fucking retards who were sold the "CS degree = easy money" meme and can barely operate a computer, much less program. The way it worked before was that any retard with a pulse was able to land a job and got to learn everything on the job. Not anymore. It's gotten 1,000x worse now that most of them coast with AI, too--it's enough to coast through nonsense school assignments, but doesn't do you much good when the rubber meets the road and you have to show you actually know what you're doing during a technical interview.

What jobs? Physics is only employable for harvard and MIT phd level. Cs is not needed at low levels in any high demand.

Wrong. I worked in tech for many years and you can even google me. O’Reilly Web 2.0 Expo in New York in 2011. This was last dying whimper of the ‘in tech’ community. I am referring to the post-dotcom crash era of Silicon Valley, which was a penniless and moribund time for many in the Bay Area. These people with marketing degrees had stopped talking about building the next Google. In desperation, they began to talk about the need for greater diversity in tech. Maybe some of them would get to keep their jobs if they helped their employers look less bigoted.

At one point that night, I put a piece of paper and a pencil in front of a black man that claimed he was an expert in scaling web infrastructure and asked him to demonstrate the use of the toupper() function in the C programming language, a challenge equivalent to asking a mathematician to multiply two whole numbers.

When he was unable to do so, I said to him: ‘This is a bar. You’re a nigger filling a diversity quota. Don’t front, just get wasted.' I was removed from the bar by security shortly afterwards.

Lots of people have/had worked their ass off for years and had nothing to show for it, and seeing my irreverence at an event full of O’Reilly douchebags deprogrammed to a certain degree.

Rest assured there is tons of shit to "break," however. Most of you all be ashamed for not knowing how to properly troll and be technically literate.

I just finished my SWE degree at a top 10% uni and there are definitely some lazy retards who push nothing (*cough* indians), but I've had really good teammates who haven't found internships/jobs, either.

My college counselor told me this was the it degree and I was none the wiser

You should have known you were a retard and that school wouldn't help you (don't worry, 90% of schoolfags are in your same shoes and don't learn shit - in fact, this is why most of you are unemployable - because you have degrees and didn't learn a damn thing). What you should have done is just started selling catalytic converters for crypto

Not saying it isn't bad, just that the numbers are inflated by the sheer amount of retards saturating the market. That said, if you're willing to stop smoking weed, sell your soul to Uncle Sam, and don't mind a less than stellar salary, civilian DoD jobs/defense contractors are still a very viable way of getting your foot in the door (don't have to deal with jeets, either).

School guidance councilors must be specifically selected to be the dumbest people alive.

final year (I moved schools)

going through what subjects I want to do

I liked computer stuff

"Well you should take this business class, it does computer stuff"

that computer stuff is googling tax shit and using MS word

it also would've required me to do a full years worth of assignments in a month or two because their final 2 years of assignments directly built off each other

Man I hated that school. Couldn't even do physics or chemistry because of subject clashes.

Best post itt

That said, if you're willing to stop smoking weed

lost me there. ZOG fears the cracked stoner American techfag

Problem with this is you need a degree to even get in and the loans that anons need to take just to get a degree aren't even worth it

finance/consulting loves hiring physicists. You can be a failure but still get a offer from them with a physics degree those 7.8% simply hate finance bros which I can fully understand.

Oh.

Yeah they need to get into math. Any job you want 300k starting.

we dont hire comp sci grads. literally an indian and ai will do it for cheaper

A math degree does not guarantee you anywhere near 300k starting

Fine arts should be one of the most difficult majors in the country to get into

I would assume that it's the case for the best fine arts schools, the rest are just ploy to defraud useless retards.

I want to read a book that begins like this

I'd be glad to write one if you fags will be glad to buy it

I would. I’m a book bro

It's a meme you dip.

Cool. Give me a few months and I'll release one. No way to keep you posted though.

Business majors we up

O’Reilly Web 2.0 Expo in New York in 2011. This was last dying whimper of the ‘in tech’ community.

I’ll look out for this opening. It’s “ A Tale of Two Cities” level.

this is fake.
there is zero (0) possibility that 93% of Fine Arts grads are working in their field ---- even if you include animation and illustration and design as Fine Arts (and they are definitely not)

are 93% employed delivering for SkipTheDishes or working as night-shift security guards? maybe

I feel like its dependent on your school/professors. I'm a Forensic Science and Anthropology double major and really the only woke stuff is about ethics regarding human remains and artifacts, and cultural anthropology which is full of total faggozoids like you described. I felt like History was more woke when I considered trying to become a teacher, just non-stop black and jew worship. No there's no budget for a medieval Europe course, you WILL learn about the holocaust again and you will like it. Had some Irish professor who's white wife died in a car accident and he remarried a negress and for some reason felt the need to make a slide about this on the first day of class, to tell us how essentially it was fate for his first wife to die so he could find interracial love and own bigots or whatever, I felt like I was in a comedy sketch.

I wouldn't be surprised they consider any job as employment in their field. It's what for-profit colleges were doing for decades to increase their success rates.

Should've picked another major chud.

If all those stories about CS graduates who don't know how to code are true, this makes a lot of sense.
I remember when Muslims were blowing themselves up they identified most extremists were educated, mainly engineering. I'd imagine in many countries the supply outnumbers demand.

computer science is still good desu

How many of these graduates can actually create a useful app or website?
If the job market is bad, you think they would spend their time improving their skills by making something to get attention or even make money.

I thought you guys were supposed to be chasing pedos now.

That would be le sigh.

How do Indian immigrants get hired then they surely don't have all this

Indians will only hire other Indians.

Founder CEO bows out for some legal reason, and puts Jeet place holder CEO

Gpysy is similar to Jew

lol

that was always obvious, you have to make it happen somehow. they cant do it for you, its impossible.
i go to college there are 1500 people on my college. only a fucking retard would have thought that they all find jobs in their field.

do you even understand how many people exist on this piece of shit rock.
the professors cant even get a job this is why they sit on the college and get gibs. lol.

If they were bad. why haven't they collapsed?
Boeing buying McDonnell Douglas is used as an example of profits of quality, even though 737 MAX was twenty years after the buyout.

I find it hard to believe psychology isn't on that list, unless it's lumped with anthropology or sociology.
I remember taking a required intro to psychology class. Out of the 200 students, 3/4 were psychology majors. That was probably one of a dozen psychology classes that quarter.

now the plebs come out of the wood work and claim that all you have to do is not being a retard.
its obvious bullshit you can all compete with people 150-170iq like me. good luck with that. you never had a chance.

the difference between starving and making 10k in 3 hours are just 2 standart deviations. lol. this is how it works here. i didnt make the rules.

This is what basically everyone who goes to college thinks about. Even the meme degree pursuers like Gender studies. Pretty much everyone goes to college and thinks "I'll get a degree and then a high-paying job will be mine, forever setting me apart from the plebs."

Unless you're a Sheldon Cooper-tier turboautist who selects an academic field purely for the love of the subject matter and a single-minded dedication to furthering the field, you're in it for the money and social status.

School guidance councilors must be specifically selected to be the dumbest people alive.

those are the very very last people i would trust or take advice from.

unbelievable
fuck Elon