Jesus is the ultimate proof that Islam is a FALSE religion

But not in the way you might think.

According to Islam, Jesus was a holy prophet of Allah, just like Moses and the other biblical prophets. "Jesus was a Muslim."

However, Muslims do not recognize the divinity of Jesus. They do not believe that:

he was the son of God

he was born from a virgin

he performed miracles

he resurrected after his death

he is part of the holy Trinity

Why not? Because Muhammad, the greatest and final prophet of Islam, said so. He received a dream in a cave 600 years after Jesus' death, telling him that Jesus' story was incorrect and that Jesus was simply a prophet.

Remember, the story of Jesus had been originally told to us by witnesses who lived during his life, heard his words coming from his mouth and saw his death and resurrection first-hand. And it wasn't just some random witnesses, it was the Apostles, his most devoted followers. Aside from Judas (who committed suicide) and John (who died of old age), all 10 other Apostles died as martyrs to spread Jesus' - and thus God's - message.

So we now have a situation in which Muslims believe in Jesus, yet they do not believe in any of the core beliefs of Christianity. There are only 3 possible ways to explain this inconsistency:

1. Jesus lied

2. The Apostles lied

3. Muhammad lied

If Jesus was a liar, this means that one of Islam's holy prophets was a liar. Logically, a religion with a false prophet can only be a FALSE religion.

If the Apostles were liars, this means that a holy prophet of Allah could attract nothing but liars to tell Allah's message, making Jesus a false prophet. Logically, a religion with a false prophet can only be a FALSE religion.

If Muhammad was a liar, this means that the ultimate and most important prophet of Islam was a liar. Logically, a religion with a false prophet can only be a FALSE religion.

There is no escape to be found in either reason or faith: no matter how you look at it, Islam is mathematically and undeniably a FALSE religion.

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Here are some more arguments using Jesus' existence to completely disprove Islam, if you somehow still need further confirmation.

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Didn’t read brownie

a fucking leaf

calling someone else brown

A 2 second google searching for "did jesus preach the trinity" bring us the following

Neither the word “Trinity” nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew Scriptures: “Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” (Deuteronomy 6:4)

Even in the old testament God himself revealed that the messiah was going to come from the descendants of David, it never says anywhere God will commit adultery with a virgin temple woman and force her child to the cross. The more i think about it the more stupid it sounds

i know right? they invent so many weird things, like some deadly sins nonsense that has no validity, at all. it was never written down in tor'aaah book which is the base of holey kooran.

pepehu kekbar.

Be judeo christian god

Bans adultery

Youngest godhead rebukes jews for trying to stone an adulteress

What's the point of laws and shit if nobody abides by them, not even God himself?

Abrahamic religion is such a boring fucking trifecta of brainrot all for the sake of having virtues and laws to make an ideal society OF THE ERAS OF ITS INCEPTION function. It's about as useful as modern retards clinging onto political ideologue from yesteryear (century) to which the devices are severely outdated and malleable like America itself. It's really fucking annoying watch all manner of humanity parody their own selves to such a god damned disgrace.

they invent so many weird things, like some deadly sins nonsense that has no validity

The seven deadly sins are literally what the 10 commandments warned against.

Pride

I am the LORD your God; you shall not have strange gods before me.
You shall not take the name of the LORD your God in vain.

Sloth

Remember to keep holy the LORD’s Day.
Honor your father and mother.

Wrath

You shall not kill.
You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

Lust

You shall not commit adultery.

Greed

You shall not steal.

Envy

You shall not covet your neighbor’s wife.

Gluttony

You shall not covet your neighbor’s goods.

Christianity is a high-IQ religion, it requires the capacity to reason and abstract. I don't blame low-IQ brownies for falling to a slave morality that just says "Muhammad right, do everything he said or no segs in afterlife for you."

there is no god and if you think there is kill yourself because you're boring the rest of us.

And none of these virtues can be either looked at or operated in the world we've wrought. The complication is so thorough that Christendom is holding Europeans back now more than ever before. The "unity" it "enforced" should never be taken for granted despite the fact anything could have bound Europeans to the cohesion of the middle-ages onwards, but it will undoubtedly have actually exhausted its use in white nations the moment the last boomer dies.

sarcasm nufag, sarcasm

judeo-xtyan judeo-muamedan

kek

You have to understand here bro, that you're arguing directly with unit 8200 agents here, not just bots.
They fucking hate Jesus, and the only thing they hate more is anyome who follows Jesus because

Christ is King, ontologically.

4. We dont really know how the apostles died or if denouncing Jesus could have saved their asses

legacy =/= modern application
Hitler wanted to replace Christendom he saw the writing on the wall doesn't mean you can't respect it and the most important staples of it. It's literally just a Jewtool and surprise you're one post away from proving it.

???

For every deadly sin, there is an opposed heavenly virtue.

Pride - Humility

Sloth - Diligence

Wrath - Patience

Lust - Chastity

Greed - Generosity

Envy - Gratitude

Gluttony - Temperance

They are pretty easy to understand and follow when properly learned, and they lead to a good life and a place in Heaven. But I agree that the Church has failed in its holy duty of spreading, teaching and defending Christianity.

Its clearly an anti-jew tool, and you're clearly a jew.
In fact its the ultimate anti-jew tool.

Since I apparently have to let you know what I meant; I am saying half of it such as stealing, murder, acedia is completely muddied by the status of or entire world to the point it's holding us back. Your own virtues are used against you. It is weak, flawed and annoying and this is coming from Agnosticism not shitty faggy fuckin Atheism. Instead of creating goyslop media like Star Wars or the next Disney someone needs to drape new flesh over the mummified corpse of European religion. If you're scared of that you're a kike.

alright when you leave the AIPAC conference you can tell me all about how that doesn't happen

Christ is King

who is Christ?
Christ is a title, like president or father, it by itself means noting.
satanists have their own Christ.

Jesus Christ is King

funny how saying certain things makes retards that usually never stop fucking talking go silent

almost like faggots and niggers and kikes and mutts are what they are

believe in prejudice, it exists in your mind for a reason. your grandkids can sing happier songs useless feel-good "i wanna consoom for 40 more years" faggots.

Being virtuous doesn't mean becoming a sacrificial lamb for your enemies. The opposite of acedia is fighting against evil. It's modern Christianity (and Protestantism in particular) that perverted the religion into this sick boomer cult of niceness and self-annihilation. There is literally nothing more anti-Christian than allowing and promoting the destruction of a Christian nation.

Protip muslims doctrinally support lying

except you left out no idolatry and no fornication

the totality of the law is, love God above everything, love yourself, love your neighbor as yourself and live the brethren.

if you love yourself you won't fornicate, nor submit yourself to false gods, nor covet or lust or commit adultery

if you love your neighbor and brethren you won't steal, lie or kill them

and if you love God, you will appreciate your parents, his rest (Sabbath) and not take his name in vain.

simple as that.

We're already destroyed, but that's what I meant its entirely a semantical interpretation due to what you apply it to. If I feel that way what could I apply acedia (sloth) to the system I see rather than the other qualities I could talk about in my life, etc etc etc. It becomes a spiderweb and if one is absolutist in Christendom (unlikely in this day and age) you're kind of subjecting yourself to the passiveness of an English monk about to get raped by Vikings. Jews interacting with Christendom, and Christendom in the hands of our forefathers is exactly why today is today.

Muslims doctrinally support lying

Guy in op's pic asks high ranking christians in universities about muhammad. Tl;dw they acknowledge his prophethood but obvs rather keep the christian masses uninformed to keep their fat paycheck

Islam has always been a pagan tier religion about a warlord raping kids. They may as well be praising Greek gods at this point.

Checked for truth

Yeah, pretty much. Non Muslims will find ways around to say otherwise, and that's fine. Just know we Muslims actually revere Jesus as a Prophet, and his fault was not his own - but the people, such as it was with Moses as well. By that I mean that after their deaths the thing they taught was far removed from original preachings (holy cow for Jews, holy trinity for Christians), and therefore considered null and voided by God who did not bestow that. So yes, technically, Islam at its core is the actual religion. In fact, it is also what we believe. That there no converts to Islam, only reverts. As in, you were always Muslim, you were simply astray. I personally believe in the core of Islam, but I also believe and know that modern day Islam is compromised and subverted by kikes and their adjacent sub species.

Yes.

Instead of creating goyslop media like Star Wars or the next Disney someone needs to drape new flesh over the mummified corpse of European religion. If you're scared of that you're a kike.

This was sort of what Tolkien was on about no?

yahweh/jehovah/allah are the same elohim being

Jesus completely disproves both Islam and Judaism.
This is common knowledge and has always been the case.
Not sure why this thread is required.

I personally believe in the core of Islam, but I also believe and know that modern day Islam is compromised and subverted by kikes and their adjacent sub species.

Surprisingly based and enlighten pilled. What are your opinions of medieval Christianity? Peak or no?

Islam has a MASSIVE problem trying to incorporate Jesus, because it both accepts his importance while denying his divinity - so now you have a HUGE problem, as OP says, deciding what exactly Jesus said was true and what wasn't; and why a prophet of God would lie, despite saying He was the truth. New Age beliefs have the same problem. These interpretations of Jesus can only be explained by a demonic attempt to muddy the truth, and steer people away from the true Christ, which is made further likely knowing that islam came along 600 years AFTER Christ's resurrection.

Guy in OP pic is very confused, and is twisting scripture - saying that Jesus doesn't talk about himself being God other than in John, which is false - and makes the arguement that Jesus was a human sacrifice, when Jesus clearly said about his life and self-sacrifice:

John 10:18
KJV

No man taketh it from me, but I lay it down of myself. I have power to lay it down, and I have power to take it again. This commandment have I received of my Father.

It's all bollocks. Grow up and face the realities of life.

They do not believe that:

>he was born from a virgin

>he performed miracles

FALSE

>he resurrected after his death

WE DON'T EVEN BELIEVE HE DIED

>he was the son of God

>he is part of the holy Trinity

OF COURSE, AND NEITHER EARLY UNITARIAN CHRISTIANS MASSACRED BY THE ROMANS IN THE ARENAS EATEN ALIVE BY LIONS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU INHERITED FROM PAGAN ROMAN RELIGION, AND MADE OFFICIAL IN THE COUNCIL OF NICEA MORE THAN 300 YEARS AFTER JESUS (PBUH)

My islam is better than your islam

Please use a meme flag and save us this embarassing kaffir cocksucking. Allah has perfected your religion, no jew, christian or cow worshipper will subvert our faith. Anti semitism has no place in Islam, we want Palestinian liberation not Jewish extinction

Mohammed was a pedophile, that's why all the Muslims are in grooming gangs.

after their deaths the thing they taught was far removed from original preachings

So his followers fucked up THAT badly, just a few years after his death? Not God's message then. And Muslims don't believe Jesus was crucified anway, so he would have had plenty of opportunities to fix the narrative after 33 AD... Yet he didn't.

everyone else who witnessed the crucifixion saw him as a martyr, not some get out of hell free card. He didn't need to say anything because his followers weren't retarded christians

Neither he or his closest disciples preach the trinity or the original sin

This is the only fact that matters, christians stopped following Jesus the day they incorporated the letters of Paul into the gospel of Jesus and became cattle for the roman empire

Neither he or his closest disciples preach the trinity or the original sin

Just because a specific term isn't written in that exact wording does not mean that its concept isn't found everywhere in the Bible. Original sin comes from Genesis and the Trinity comes from the divinity of Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

religion is not meant to make sense and be rational. Thats the whole fucking point. You have like women, that are capable of disregarding any logic, rules of physics, society, you name it, all in the name of fefes. Logical explanations are retarded

1. he was the son of God - never read your Bible

he was born from a virgin - we agree tho, that's why he is called Word of God, born without a father, God says "Be!" and it is.

he performed miracles - Do you know that as Prophets of God, they do perform miracles by permission of God?

he resurrected after his death - he is not. He is alive and well in Heaven while waiting until 2nd coming after the False Messiah has come

he is part of the holy Trinity - he never claim to be one, it's you guys who claimed so, never realizing you commit blasphemy just like the Jews.

And it wasn't just some random witnesses, it was the Apostles

Your bible says they ran away after hearing Jesus got caught. So there are no eyewitnesses, no matter how much you cope.

1. Jesus lied

2. The Apostles lied

3. Muhammad lied

None lied. Except the Paul the False Apostle and Constantine, first Pagan-Christianity Emperor convert who officially made Jesus equal to God during the Council of Nicaea.

Sure, let's ignore that priests has so much sex scandals in the church. Not to mention gay sex scandals with young boys as well.

He claimed that He was Lord of the Sabbath with the authority over it (Mark 2:23-28).

He took the divine name “I AM” for Himself (John 8:58, from Exodus 3:14).

He said that the way to the Father is through Him (Matthew 11:27, John 14:1-7).

He made Himself equal with God (John 5:18).

He claimed that whoever saw Him saw the Father (John 14:9).

When He was given the opportunity to correct people treating Him as if He were God, He didn’t (Matthew 26:63-65, John 19:7-10).

He claimed to have descended from heaven (John 3:13).

He claimed to have the power to raise himself from the dead (John 2:19, 10:17-18).

He claimed to be replacing the temple (John 2:19-21), which was the place known to house God’s presence and the forgiveness of sins.

He claimed to share “glory” with God before the world existed (John 17:5).

He claimed to be sent from Heaven (John 6:38, John 4:34, John 3:13).

He claimed He would send His angels (Matthew 13:41, Luke 12:8-9).

He claimed the authority to forgive sins (Mark 2:5).

He assumed the authority to judge the world (Mark 14:62) and that one’s attitude toward Him would impact the end of their life (Matthew 10:32-33).

He claimed to be perfectly sinless (John 8:46).

He claimed that to know Him was to know God (John 8:19), to see Him was to see God (John 12:45), and to receive Him was to receive God (Mark 9:37).

He claimed, “I and the Father are one” (John 10:29-33), which was not lost on Jewish listeners, who responded, “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (verse 33).

In His teachings, He consistently demonstrated authority over the Law, or Torah, most notably in the Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5-7).

Did you know Muslims did 9/11? They also attacked many different European countries over the last couple of decades via deadly terrorist bombings, shootings, vehicles plowing through crowds and so on.
It's a pattern of behavior for Muslims.

Calling YHWH a prideful demiurge

Based department?

Christian are already praising one - Plato's one. YHWH isn't the omnipotent and omnipresent artificer of the universe in the old testament

Jesus is the son of creation, it actually works out better if most of it was made up as it proves that the god of creation Is real and quite possibly the only 'real' god.

Only retards and boomers think Muslims did 911

Yes let's condemn countless generations of innocents to hell before I send my one and only son to die on the cross

Should a child born in prison live out his mother's sentence? Yes, a high iq christian believes he should because rabbi jesus isn't born yet

Christianity is not a serious religion

christianity is going to die out
you christcucks never have recovered since we Muslims have started to spread the message of Islam in English
you simply haven't been able to respond with logical truthful arguments
you're forced to lie and thereby get exposed as you are doing here

Yes let's condemn countless generations of innocents to hell before I send my one and only son to die on the cross

That's just your headcanon.

Paul of Tarsus (the kike who lied about dreaming of Jesus) claimed*

good logic.

Muslims

caring about logic and truth

Kek

perfect example of a debunkable christcuck lie.
you even need to invent a lie that Muslims lie in order to defeat us in an argument. pathetic fucks lmao.

actually this is the thing with christcucks - you cannot handle objective truth
you need to invent mental gymnastics literally for each and every little part of christcuckstianity
from jesus being god to things like pigs being ok to eat

I guess jesus going to hell to free all the people who were gone before him was also my headcanon
Wow hiding your political/religious association to avoid persecution = lying

Kitman

When you parrot john verses for the millionth time and never ezekiel 18, or James

The shahada isn't in the koran yet it's found foundational to islam. Same with 5 prayers a day.

they acknowledge his prophethood

Prove it.

Isa is Jesus

LOL

Was the priest's sex in agreement with doctrine or against? There's the difference.

was the son of God

God doesnt give birth

he was born from a virgin

we recognize that

he performed miracles

we recognize that

he resurrected after his death

he didnt die

he is part of the holy Trinity

made up nonsense

Wow hiding your political/religious association to avoid persecution = lying

Christians never did that. They died for their beliefs. I guess you can't do the same when your beliefs are all fake and gay.

Inbred thiefs roleplaying after the facts

L M A O

So the prophet of your religion either was a liar or he lived and died for nothing. Maybe worse than nothing, as he gave birth to a religion that is completely opposed to Islam and has billions of followers. Allah really fucked up with that one, huh?

huh?

all middle eastern religions are retarded.

Tell me, what did Jesus live for, in your opinion? He's the worst imaginable prophet that Islam could have ever had.

All the pastors especially catholics are closet muslims, don't take my word for it, go out and see what became of the world's biggest christian denomonation
Declaring the shahada is sunnah. Even kaffirs can recite the shahada, doesn't make them believers

So glorify Allah in the evening and in the morning—

all praise is for Him in the heavens and the earth—as well as in the afternoon, and at noon.

[Romans:17-18]

So why should anyone believe in the bible then?

Because Christianity is a religion of love and truth, not a religion of submission and deceit.

my prophet is better than your prophet!

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And what makes christianity the "truth"? On what basis do you say that?

But both Jesus and Muhammad are Islam's prophets. Which is a paradox.

Cutting the tip of your dick to prove you'll do anything for God = satanic, unchristian

Cutting the tip of your dick to blend in with the rabbis and muslims = heckin valid, justified through faith

Didn’t the spread Christianity by lying to pagans to allow his statue in their temples and then smashing all the other statues and idols?

what makes christianity the "truth"?

It's consistent.
It's logical.
It fulfills the biblical prophecies.
It's substantiated by historical evidence.
It produced the most prosperous, moral and creative societies on Earth.
It also feels true. Or at least truer than all other religions, that's for sure.

Ok let's start with the first two claims then. If Christianity is consistent, did the rabbis preach a triune god and did the prophets of the old worship a triune god? Also who did Jesus worship, just the father alone or a triune god? And why does the christian prayer on have the father in it not like son and holy ghost?

Second, if it is logical then explain how the trinity is "one" god and not polytheism?

He's the worst imaginable prophet that Islam could have ever had.

he's the most revered prophet in islam after Muhammad

what did Jesus live for, in your opinion?

29. Then she pointed to him. They said: "How can we talk to one who is a child in the cradle?"

30. "He ['Iesa (Jesus)] said: Verily! I am a slave of Allah, He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet;"

31. "And He has made me blessed wheresoever I be, and has enjoined on me prayer, and alms tax, as long as I live."

32. "And dutiful to my mother, and made me not arrogant, unblest.

33. "And peace be upon me the day I was born, and the day I die, and the day I shall be raised alive!"

34. Such is 'Iesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). (it is) a statement of truth, about which they doubt (or dispute).