How would you (NAFO) defeat China in a non-nuclear war?

Aren't those mountain passes pretty narrow? You could only tire out 100 men at a time.

Consider it a typo. I'll reply serious to serious posts.

tbqh even if china did chimp out, the devastation caused would basically end their country

Fine. The ukraine war proved that ships are especally vultnerable to even the most basic of modern antiship wepoans. Theres 100 miles of open ocean between taiwan and the mainland and most of the ccp transports are very slow. Point is an invasion is pure fantasy. Taiwn is one of the mosty heavly aremed healy fortifed places on earth. It would takle months or years of massive bombardment to even soften it up enough to attempt a landing. So an one anon said. Do nothing. Sit back provide targeting intel to taiwan and blockade china from affair.

It's also a massive gravity dam, huge slabs of concrete held in place by their own weight. Without nukes, it would take a lot of cruise missiles with 500kg warheads to destroy.

No industrial capability to compete in an actual war head to head so the only way would be to isolate China from their oil and food providers, basically give any type of concession Russia/Iran wants, key countries to get on board with food production are Brazil Indonesia, New Zealand and Thailand

Send everyone of our shitskinned male invaders to China in operation brown wave. This would overwhelm the chink social systems and food banks.

Taiwan has no operational depth and has to be resupplied by sea. The whole country is in range of missles, drones, aircraft, etc from the mainland. Even if Patriot AA systems had a 100% effectiveness, how long before they run out of interceptor missiles?

Taiwan would have its entire power grid knocked out, can't import electricity from Europe like Ukraine, and no nuclear plants that can't be touched either.

Fuel silos also would be taken out, and bringing in oil tankers to ports isn't going to happen.

Taiwans usefulness as a military base wouldn't last. They could be starved out, but I don't think they'd be able to resist a naval invasion under such conditions either.

There's no way Russia or Iran are going to be wooed into helping NATO defeat China, as if they wouldn't be next.

Russia and Iran are supposed to be taken out first anyway. Russia's refusal to collapse has fucked up the timetable.

China has an oil pipeline to the Caspian sea, and they're rapidly switching commercial transport to electric, and they have some domestic oil production, so their military fuel reserves won't dry up that fast even with a naval blockade.

As for food, they produce quite a bit, and have a land border with Russia, they'll be able to tighten their belts and cut imported beef out of their diet.

Why aren't you doing that already?

Use the US's 53 attack submarine to blockade these spots and choke China out of oil import.

Tariffs, then proxy wars with SE Asia and Pacific Islanders.

Its a large island with plenty of depth and it would be extremely difficult for the ccp to project power to the east of taiwan in a war.

But the power grid

Thats just cope. We see from ukraine that even sustained attacks on the power grid cant shut it down for long. Lots of those old prewar scenarios have been proven false in recent wars. Like how israel has dropped and insane amount of explosives on gaza and that hasn't crushed all resistance, or how russian can spend months or even years fighting to take a small town that has been completely destroyed. The kind of destruction you're talking about is not something the ccp can achieve in a few days. That would at minimum take months of bombardment on a scale well beyond anything we've seen in ukraine or gaza. One of the flays in all these china vs taiwan discussions is how the ccp is always seen as some powerful overwhelming force while taiwan own military is often seen as a non factor. Truth is even if the ccp was any good we've seen inferior forces hold their own against superior forces in the middle east ukraine and recently in kashmir. Any war for taiwan is gonna be a long slog for the ccp.

defeat China

IF YOU KILL THEM, THEY WIN!

Cut off the food supply and watch off those food riots

China has an oil pipeline to the Caspian sea, and they're rapidly switching commercial transport to electric, and they have some domestic oil production, so their military fuel reserves won't dry up that fast even with a naval blockade.

Japan, South Korea, and the Philipines will also be suffering from naval blockade, so dragging the conflict out is going to be ruinous too the Pacific allies.

No they wouldnt.

This dam is so enormous that it slows down earth's rotation for a fraction of second.

Why do you want war with Russia, China, Iran and others?

Afraid of competition?

not even, just sit back and watch, they have to attack or will eat themselves into starvation anyway. Can just sit back do nothing and win. If this wasn't true China would do somthing.

China produces 4.5 million of oil barrels per day and is moving fast towards electric cars and trains.
Their oil consumption is going down actually,

You are correct, it's dumb. Best thing to do is to wait out until they collapse until their own economic incompetence and then need to beg the West for food again.

NATO exists to counter Russia.
We have no beef with China.
If Trump wants a war with China that's his choice but we'll stay out of it.

Thats just cope. We see from ukraine that even sustained attacks on the power grid cant shut it down for long

Taiwan has:

half the population of Ukraine.

20x smaller territory.

Is surrounded by sea and it would face a blockade.

If Ukraine was in a similar situation it would have fallen in a few months.

Wait if it does that how is that not considered a crime against nature or humanity or whatever since it's negatively affecting every creature on the planet?

Ukraine is 20x the size of Taiwan, and is plugged into the EU power grid, and has nuclear plants that can't be attacked. Russia can only knock out substations connecting these sources, and those can be quickly repaired if parts are available.
Taiwan's power situation is entirely different.

Gaza is an extermination operation, which is not something China intends to do to fellow Chinese in Taiwan.

I don't think capturing Taiwan straight away is strictly necessary, but I think it's within the realm of possibility.

If ukraine was an island russia wound have never been able to invade it.

NATO exists to counter Russia.

NATO exits to keep America in, Germany down and Russia out.
(words from an American diplomat)

They want a subjugated EU... subjugated to the US.
And that's what you want too, right?

Why is your country so invested in warmonging all over the world while your population dies from drugs and is 45% white under the age of 35?

Hang yourself, now.

That's murca's problem, not mine. yankee free mason grifting fuckbois took it upon themselves to (((protect))) them, they better start keeping their promises.
those bitches better not pull a yookkraine or afghanistan on them (spoiler:they will), that's for sure.

Germany in and russians out. It's about Europe. NATO in its current form has nothing to do in Asia. Weird that you're using the NATO flag while not realising this obvious fact.

Bizarre that you and random memeflag just posted the same thing. Are you chink ai looking for warplans? Look china isn't self sufficient and yes open war with the US means end of any sea trade for china. We're talking about an operation many time the size of the d day landings against a much better defended location where time is not on the side of the attackers. If the ccp ever actually is desperate enough to actually attack taiwan its only gonna do so because its on the verge of collapse alreday and it needs to make some desperate move

This is a thread were chinks are stroking their micro dicks while fantasizing about invading another country.

China has an oil pipeline to the Caspian sea,

easily bombed

and they have some domestic oil production, so their military fuel reserves won't dry up that fast even with a naval blockade.

their economy will be destroyed though

Japan, South Korea, and the Philipines will also be suffering from naval blockade

by what navy?

America INSIDE Europe, controlling it
Germany DOWN, without means to liberate itself from America
Russia OUT, so Europe doesn't have access to cheap resources so that their production is expensive and they can't have military and political autonomy with Russia as an ally

What's the objective? Stop them from taking Taiwan? Kill all the Chinese? Turn the country into rubble?

wrong pic. these are the spots to blockade. easily starve out china. the same way japan was starved out in ww2.

That's just how it is, idk anon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Gorges_Dam#Terrestrial_impact

Yes, and Asia is in no way included in this picture.

Total war, we get the Africans involved. We say, Russia gets China you Africans get to be the next Scythians and the Mexicans can go to Africa to appease America, there we will create a new hybrid race of Chinese Mexicans but only once the Indians have been eradicated for their flagrant violation of nation as the Chinese too hath committed upon this garden rock of ours

What the fuck man?

It's questionable hard they'd resist given the circumstances. I don't think they're as dumb and suicidal as Ukrainians. Repatriation with the mainland isn't some horrifying outcome to normal people.

The country would be in immediate chaos with total blackout. they'd run out of AA missiles fast and be under total areal surveillance, fire control from land based missiles, air superiority.

It would be a nightmare.

in what context. taking over china
impossible
nearest you could get in causing enough internal that kicks off a civil war

that might not be that difficult in the currant climate, a prolonged export ban, tarrifs on ALL cheap goods (putting up general import/export taxes)

Repatriation with the mainland isn't some horrifying outcome to normal people.

What about Hong Kong?

The initial wave is likely to be much more lighter landing craft. The big ships will come once the coastal defences are neutralised. Just like Normandy

Kick off a civil war? They thought Russian's would overthrow Putin. China's even more stable.

A perfect example of why repatriation is nothing to worry about, and certainly not worth dying for America to prevent.

You think the paid rioters and USAID propaganda tells the story?

Japan is an island. I'm not sure if you noticed, but China is part of the Eurasian landmass.

Wait if it does that how is that not considered a crime against nature or humanity or whatever since it's negatively affecting every creature on the planet?

We let chinks overfish and throw plastic in the oceans too. Kikes don't care about the future of the planet when they can scam people RIGHT NOW.
Same with Indians.

Oh you're a chinaman. You should go back.

easily bombed

yeah bro, just fly 2000 km over Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan to bomb it. You keep posting maps, but have you ever bothered to look at one?

Nafo couldn't defeat their wife's bull (me)

You dont think the US can fly over afghanistan? Where have you been the last 25 years?

Nato doesn't care about China that's only a problem of the USA and Europe would not help at all when the USA finally starts a war with them except poland they would help like the good dogs they are.
Usa has no industry left and what they have is many decades old.
China beat the Americans back in Korea when China was still a complete shithole while now they have absolute superiority in everything.
Usa would lose.

Don't even nuke them. Destroy food processing, manufacturing, and distribution. Block all aid in or out of country. 1 billion person time bomb.

During the last big US naval wargame in the south china sea the german navy sent ships. I know I was surprised as well.

making fun of nato cringe is not a "rhetoric device"

War games are retarded and you can't plan for everything when in a real war the situation could change every day.

write “CHINA GAY” on surface of the moon. They will have to divert their war funding to erase it

that's irrelevant because it's difficult mountains and large plains/desert. transport by sea is way cheaper.

The same nato cringe who bombed your shithole in submission and took "your" kosovo away?

Look at a map. It's Iran or Pakistan too. Israel was too chicken shit to test Iran's air defense with F35's last time they attacked, and just lobbed some stand off missiles from a safe distance.

It's a moot point either way, if flying 2000km to bomb a section of pipeline in the desert is the best thing you can do with your strategic air assets, you're ngmi.

4chins has reliably informed me that if I print picrel on a massive banner and stick it on the landing beach, the chinese will be able to advance

china lost historically against smaller amount of people as well, so it's possible

unable to advance*
sorry, been morning drinking

Why would China not respond with nukes to an attack like that?

because china is a paper tiger

China got wrecked in Korea regard and the US never even declared a full mobilization

Who is (NAFO)?

77th Brigade and Elgin Air Force Base
paid troons who shitpost on discord/twatter/here in support of the "current thing", usually Ukraine.

Lots of subs with lots of conventional munitions
Blow up their dam
Destroy the abilities to feed themselves
Knock out their satellites
Destroy the navy next
then destroy the airforce
then go after AA, achieve air superiority
then just ww2 bomb the cities
don’t occupy with ground forces you don’t need to anymore
you just turn into Bibi 2.0 and go full genocide and tell the world to eat shit

before this you achieve a massive propaganda campaign showing all the bad shit china has done mainly covid

china is like this business partner you deal with out of necessity for a short duration

Everyone hates them so it’s easy to get everyone on board to massively and I mean massively reduce the population

Everyone should have teamed up after covid, it should have been every country on earth asking for an unpayable repairations and then when refused join the collation to destroy them

How do you blockade someone with significantly more industrial might?

Neither did China.
And they would rather fight a total war than accept a defeat there.
China has 50 millions incels who could be thrown at the front while the USA would collapse in a race war with a full mobilisation.
Usa of the 1940s is not the same usa of today.

Cut off their ability to trade. Encourage interal dissent.

By having a total monopoly on information of where all the ships are
Satellite warfare would probably be one of the first combined attacks, then ballistic missles from subs

If the navy is out sailing around with no GPS and no communications beyond visual they’re not going to win and could be just hunted down

Biggest fight here is sats vs sats and subs vs subs

Israel wrecked irans air defenses. Thats why there talk of bombing more now. Sorry anon but some long pipeline isn't gonna last long.

That pic

Blue Sky with a White Sun flag

How far the Kuomintang has fallen

Without nukes? Impossible. NATO is weak as seen by their failure to defend ukraine.

Superior weaponry. China's military tech is decades behind.

Israel wrecked irans air defenses

Any none jewish source on that?

defeat China in a non-nuclear war

escalate the war to go nuclear

77th Brigade and Elgin Air Force Base, paid troons

So they’re American - thanks for info, I thought OP meant Taiwanese.

China has 50 millions incels

Maybe not. Theres been a lot of questions about the accuracy of china's census data in recent years.

Old satellite tech is good enough to crash into other satellites
I think everyone is reluctant for these kinds of battles since it could end up preventing anything being launched but don’t underestimate people’s insanity

I reckon they'll try to settle down for a peace treaty before the war even begins. Then Ursula spouts an opinion and suddenly NAFO wants the war to start, die and refuse to give up..

That superior tech can't even beat goatfuckers in Yemen these days, let alone an infinite swarm of bug people with near infinite resources.

The wumao fears nothing worse than losing face
So I wouldn’t bet on it at all

Smart idea, Jew. How's all that working out for us?

hey now
there are at least 10 posters in uhg

These aren’t total wars and a war between US and China without nukes is a WW2 total war scenario

The same nato

I hope China invades

China is scared to invade after witnessing how disastrous Russias went

Subs are dangerous, but they carry limited munitions and will have to return to a safe port to rearm, which could be as far as Hawaii.

Blow up their dam

Blowing up the dam to kill millions of civilians is a nuclear war scenario.

Destroy the abilities to feed themselves

They can always import grain from Russia, they're not going to starve.

Knock out their satellites

Both sides will be targeting satellite assets. US can launch replacements faster thanks to SpaceX, but China can churn out missiles faster. LEO satellite ISR is probably off the menu for both sides.

Destroy the navy next

China has 230x the shipbuilding capacity of the US. Japan had no hope in WW2 cause they couldn't replace losses like America could.

then destroy the airforce,then go after AA, achieve air superiority

Where are you going to operate your planes from? Air bases in the Pacific will be attacked by ballistic missiles. It's not going to be easy like Iraq. Iraq is the best AA defense the US airforce ever flew against, and they were using vietnam era S-75's operated by illiterate Arabs

You know that jet is a complete piece of shit right?

they are just "performative" countrys, thats why chyna and russia have such huge military parades

xister pls

That's only said by people who say since decades that China will collapse in 2 weeks.
It's very obvious that China can be trusted more than what your elite says.

fuck off, commie

coping nafoon

US and China going into a total war or not has no impact on your -current- level of technology. The US' really isn't as superior as mutts make it out to be on here.

If it was as superior as its claimed to be, it would have won in Afghanistan, Ukraine, Syria or Yemen recently, but it didn't.

inb4 we would have won if we could literally glass the entire country with nukes

That's not how it will ever work. Superior technology would have won at least some of these wars. Even IF the technology was >9000 years ahead of the rest of the world super alium technology stolen from Roswell, it's still not utilized properly because it's operated by sgt. Shaneequa and pvt. Paco.

I mean last I heard that things fuel was being used to cook hot pot

Yeah you’re right what am I saying all those drone death videos have motivated the CCP more than ever

China has based state capitalism with strong nationalism behind it.
And they care only about Chinese and not like here where shitskins are the top priority

The bigger question is, how are you going to blockade someone who is the biggest trading partner for most of the countries in the world? You're going to effectively have to enforce a naval blockade against the planet.
Are you going to sink everyone's ships?

nationalism based on resentment, humiliation. they care about the chynese, not about their culture tho. the ccp destroyed ancient china

Why do they call it nafo?

NAFO

Anon Babble= Fake Flag VPN /Russianpropagandaboard/

>NAFO

You need a new rhetoric device, you retards are obsessed with like 500 people on twitter.

Anon Babble= Fake Flag VPN /Russianpropagandaboard/

nafo-ofan.org/pages/we-are-nafo

US hasn’t even gone to war with any of these countries, Yemen is just literally one US ship sitting there vs the entire Houthi military

Exactly this would mean they have to declare war on pretty much the entire world while the USA produces nothing of worth and imports everything.
That would not work out for the USA and make them the world's bogeyman worse than literally Hitler.
Usa is going the same way the soviet Union went and we can see it more and more every day.
But Americans are mentally ill and would rather start a world war than collapse like the Soviets did. One last all or nothing war.

How's Operation Prosperity Guardian going?

It still showcases the technology the US has, you disingenous kike.

Blockade and bomb infrastructure, they'll starve fast when cut off from trade while losing key industries and domestic transport. Inevitably they'd give up while claiming a decisive victory after eating each other for months.

It's a pseudo name you take on to not fully take responsibility for your action and collaboration, but in case by some lucky stoke things go your way you can unmask and change it to GAYTO and take credit for it.

Two jets lost.
Nice cope.

Since decades China is revitalising old Chinese culture and even portray former Qing monarchy in a good light.
They clearly learned from their mistakes and try to fix them. They learned that pure worship of Marxist communism is nonsense and doesn't work so they mix their old culture with nationalism together with obedience to the current regime.

I'd say I'm heading over to Beijing for "trade talks" then launch about 2000 nukes. Halfway over the pacific, my plane turns back and I check what's left of it, maybe more nukes need to be sent.

China won't starve in any scenario.

Easy.
Use nukes.

It's the last thing they would expect in this scenario.

the ship hit over 800 targets with no casualties taken lol

800 targets which are just empty sand dunes. The operation objectively failed since israel is getting bombed by the houthis almost daily.

monarchy gone, confucianism chynese approved, cultural revolution. chyna is a modern feminist nation, ruled by western, commie norms. japan is still based tho

Fire one artillery round at the 3 gorges dam and then roll in under guise of Humanitarian aid. Then among the chaos and all the drowned bugs, begin systematically executing members of the Communist party.

The US really is militarily incompetent, as their record demonstrates. They repeatedly fail to achieve their political goals (which is the point of war, not kdr cope).
They don't know how to fight a modern war, let alone win one. Their combat experience is just high intensity policing operations, and bombing goat herders that can't shoot back.

Their entire military doctrine is based on the assumption of air supremacy, and that's based on squashing Iraq, as if that's a real test.

How is japan based? It's incel culture incarnated.

Riiiiiight goodluck feeding 1.4 bilion people with no major fishing, fertilizer, foreign imports, and transportation.

operation for US was to protect Red Sea shipping civilians, not Israel

China has many friendly nations around them and they could import export everything for China. Will America declare war on them too? Like Russia and Pakistan? I doubt it when their navy gets exhausted even with mongrels like the houthies.

I know that Chang are bugs, but would anyone be really comfortable with wiping out a billion people?

killing shitskin civilians counts as achieving military goals

As much as I celebrate dead goatfuckers, you can't honestly call this a win for the mighty US army, can you? Global trade near Yemen is still fucked.

confucianism(they blew up his grave btw) ccp approved, cities look like dysney land, especially the "ancient" parts

See

people

Fuck off 1pbtid bot.

you can’t call it a win or a loss for the US army because they haven’t even gone there

He's right tho. Israels ports are full of american ships right now free from attack.

incel

japan has a higher birth rate than china btw
why more based? spirituality still intact(shintoism), they still have their monarchy, architecture a beautiful blend between ancient and modern, even manga is a "continuation" of japanese historical art etc etc. japanese still have housewifes(more "backwards than bazeddd feminist china in this regard) love japanese way of constructing the cities as well but thats my personal taste, prefer japanese architecture overall

Fair enough points but we are imagining a scenario where it doesn’t escalate to nuclear war
Attacking satellites might trigger a nuclear war for example

If on the same day the satellites get knocked out, the dam goes, and the navy starts to get picked off then it’s only a matter of time you can’t build or transport shit when everyone is getting bombed constantly

There’s plenty of ways to ammo up subs I am sure of that aren’t known and I can think of many ways to do that, you just need to meet up with another boat way offshore but not too far away as you stated

Look the main problem is China is full of Chinamen and they will loose because there’s way smarter and crazier people than me that have the most important stat: creativity and they are locked up in some think tank over here

If the gloves are off America will win
So just fuck off back there where you’re from leave Americas hat

For thousands of years their monarchy treated the Chinese worse than cattle as total slaves while the commies gave them freedom for the first time ever.
Mao did obviously retarded things but decades after him the Chinese got every year better and better living standards.

i just don't see how china is "based", they seem more western than japan

What about the houthi missiles? What about the ships coming from the red sea? What abotu dismantling the houthis? The operation objectively failed and only you copers deny it.

The image is exaggerated but the three gorges dam is huge. Destroying it would flood a lot of the most important parts of China and wipe out over 95% of all Chinas manufacturing capabilities. On top of that it could kill over 300 million people if they don't evacuate fast enough.

Destroying it would essentially permanently cripple China. This is also why China would never actually go to war, they built the worlds biggest fucking weak spot.

Die for goyslop is your argument? Would you die for germany? Your life is materially better than almost all germans that have ever lived. If anything you sound resentful of prosperity.

i still dont understand why the ccp didnt build several smaller dams, resulting in more de-centralized safety. (destruction of the enviorment aside)

We're brothers, they wont defend themselves if we invade, they'll just put their hands up and eventually join us

Russia also said this about Ukraine. Look at how well that turned out for them.

What about the houthi missiles?

The ones that haven't attacked a american ship in months? Yeah they stopped. Thats the point.

I'm talking about the missiles shooting at israel you dumbfuck.

It's based that they care and protect their population compared to the century of humiliation while at the same time they create a century of American humiliation.
All the fentanyl come from China and trump even begged them to stop sending it over.
That's based.

Real rich of a buck broken German subservient to the US and Israel to talk about resentment, humiliation and even culture lmao

.

• Agree with Rightists in the tariff policies of Trump, make sure Right-wing parties are installed in NATO countries.
• NATO must be Far Right Chud oriented
• Get Russia to be part in the West instead of having friends in the Eastern sphere.
• Trade war against Commie China and the entire remaining Communist bloc if there is.
• Destabilize left-wing countries by promoting right-winger ideas (a.k.a. Chudifying everyone).
• Securely hack Chinese electronics, make sure they can't use any possible warhead if there is.
• Use strong, effective, and efficient Far Right Chud War strategy.

It's mostly about bragging. They had to build the biggest to brag they built the biggest.
Also, the first emperor of China got to be emperor by building a dam. So building dams in China has cultural significance, especially for Chinese leadership.

Most people think China has this 100 year long plan which is why they'll eventually win. The reality is the CCP don't even have a 6 month long plan and they are largely just doing whatever the fuck they think will work.

Do you think they can feed China all on their own? Russia is going to prioritize itself first and the same will go for Iran. Otherwise strime key hubs for transport using Taiwan for staging or boats off the coast. Hell that's one of the major reasons why China wants Taiwan so badly.

The one rocket they fire every now an then that hits nothing? Thats israels problem. Only since it doesnt do anything I guess its not much of a problem.

USA can't block chinese western or southern borders.

I accept your concession.

They literally signed a treaty to not attack the shipping anymore Nd haven’t done it since

China isn't a warmongering nation like the usa is and they don't expect war.
Even then a few million chinks getting killed is of no concern and would result only in making the Chinese extremely angry hungry for total revenge.

So you're just coping.

I dont think a few million dead has ever made china angry.

They're not attacking american ships only, they're still bombing israel and are attacking other ships bound for israel. Global trade is still reduced through the red sea.

i remember japanese saying the chinese somehow love to trash their beautiful nature with ridicolous building projects, didn't take it serious in the past(again, shows the difference between ccp and ancient chinese) yes and even if their plans backfire, they won't admit it or don't realize when its to late. the chinese family politics were a disaster and their 3 child politics is a joke. china now has a birth rate lower than japan, the ccp is full of boomers, they couldn't read the room and are way to late in cultural matters now. the same goes for them complaining about "feminized" men, implying chinese men playing video games, girls loving k-pop, etc etc. way too late

He's obviously a muttoid spic nigger soldier stationed here.
Germans don't care about China at all.

So what are you? A chink on holiday?

shut the fuck up, commie
youtube.com/watch?v=9rMbxmQmo94

Since the deal was signed on may 6th there have been no attacks on any commercial ships

The trade is still reduced and missiles are flying at israel.

There is no need to block the entirety of their border trade just enough to cause cities to starve. The primary targets would be trains, railroads, pipelines, major roads, etc. which can take a while to replace.

german nationalism is not based on humiliation and resentment, no. and no, germany did not destroy their own culture("Four Olds" in regards to the cultural revolution)

Russia has been constantly bombign ukrainian infrastructure yet nobody there is starving. Don't be delusional, china is gigantic and blockading it is logistically impossible.

Your culture and nation is very much destroyed. I'm starting to doubt that you're really german.

Attacking satellites might trigger a nuclear war for example

No one sane is going to go nuclear over a fucking starlink satellite being shot down.

Again, destroying the dam is a nuclear scenario, and taking it out with conventional weapons would require a significant amount of long range weapon stockpiles.

Picking off the navy wont be easy either if they're operating in range of the mainland and land based anti ship missiles and air support. The shelf off the coast is shallow, so subs will be taking a big risk, as they can't dive deep.

None of America's military performances since WW2 give me any reason to think you can win a conventional war.

that was fine according to American deal like I say the US sent literally one ship over near them to protect commercial shipping

its not really logistically impossible, you can reduce supplies to china to a huge extent

Hans, you're in denial mate.

Russia has been constantly bombign ukrainian infrastructure

No not really. Russia is prolific in destroying the russian speaking east of ukraine. It barley touches anything else. Even the latest bombing of kyiv are just a few dozen drones.

Ban chinese goods, they will capitulate in a week.

That's a deal of USA surrendering and trying to save face.
But in no scenario would china be completely blockaded and starve.

They can make rice. They have the best food production in the world.

Ugh dont they just curb stomp you? China has all the advantages.

Feeding 37 million people in a country with direct western support in a territory covered by better air cover

Same as feeding 1.4 billion people which China struggles with already that's at least 10 times the size

China has always been on the brink of falling apart lmao why do you think they've had so many warring states periods?

China has always been on the brink of falling apart lmao

No good if it rots in the fields. Why don't you go work in one and learn the maoist way.

China is numbah 1 food

kek, Mao was right who cares if millions die nothing would be lost.

glownigger thread

also the west can't beat China

USA did wargames last year and america always lost the pacific

u are the one coping here, these “wars” ur talking about are just small scale law enforcement operations for the US basically, the US has not initiated a war mobilization since 1941

I'm German and like every real German he should hate the usa the most and I enjoy the american century of humiliation.

Church still owns land, runs hospitals, schools, kindergartens, universities

Still collects taxes from citizens via the state (Kirchensteuer)

Public holidays tied to the Christian liturgical calendar: Easter, Ascension, Pentecost, All Saints

Bells still ring across the country at set times (Angelus, Sunday mass, etc.)

Pilgrimages (e.g., Jakobsweg) still happening

Civil law system derived from Roman-Germanic tradition

Court structures (Amtsgericht, Landgericht) have medieval roots

Länder (federal states) reflect old duchies, bishoprics, kingdoms

Concepts like subsidiarity, Rechtsstaat, Pflichtbewusstsein still guide public life

Titles like “Landrat,” “Bürgermeister,” “Freistaat” go back centuries
German language shaped by Luther’s Bible (16th c.)

Still reads Goethe, Schiller, Grimm, Nietzsche in school

Classical German philosophy dominates academia worldwide (Kant, Hegel, Heidegger, etc.)

German expressions and idioms often traceable to medieval or religious origins

Unique concepts: Bildung, Zeitgeist, Weltanschauung, Heimat
Christmas markets (Weihnachtsmärkte), St. Martin’s Day, Easter fires, Erntedank, Karneval — all still celebrated

Processions, solstice rituals, bell blessings, and grave candle-lighting remain in many areas

Maypole dances, folk parades, regional saints’ days

Dirndl and Lederhosen worn at festivals (not cosplay — actual tradition)
Bach, Beethoven, Brahms, Wagner, Händel — still performed globally and in local churches

Volksmusik, church choirs, brass bands, and Zithermusik still common

Traditional dances: Schuhplattler, Zwiefacher, Rheinländer

Regional folk songs passed down orally

Opera houses and theaters still run on Enlightenment-era models
Craftsmen still go on the Walz (journeyman pilgrimage) — with uniform, stick, and book

Guild-based master certification system (Meisterprüfung) still in place

Chambers of crafts (Handwerkskammer) and trade law rooted in medieval Zünfte

I never said China's economy was collapsing I am saying it is inherently unstable due to the logistics of maintaining such an empire. Politically throughout history it has been unstable especially during times of famine like most places. The CCP is not dumb about that.

vietnam

You missed your chance. They are bigger and stronger than you now.

Sounds like you're just coping and huffing global south copium tho.

Traditional skills like woodcarving, organ-building, blacksmithing, brewing, baking still valued and passed on

Ehre des Handwerks is a real thing — cultural identity in skilled labor
Bundeswehr's values still shaped by Prussian officer ethos (Pflicht, Disziplin, Loyalität)

Schützenvereine (shooting clubs) maintain historical uniforms, rituals, competitions

Traditional military marches, remembrance days (Volkstrauertag), parades in rural regions

Chivalric codes echoed in officer training and civic values
Humboldtian model (unity of research and teaching) still underpins universities

Compulsory schooling system descended from 18th–19th century Prussian reforms

University towns like Heidelberg (1386), Leipzig (1409), Erfurt (1379) still active

Classical education in Gymnasien includes Latin, philosophy, history of Western thought
Dozens of surviving dialects: Bavarian, Swabian, Saxon, Plattdeutsch, etc.

Strong local identity in regions like Franconia, Swabia, Bavaria, Saxony, the Rhineland

Regional food, festivals, and even clothes still tied to centuries-old traditions

Heimat is more than "home" — it’s a deep cultural bond to place, speech, and custom
Reinheitsgebot (beer purity law) still followed — from 1516

Hundreds of regional bread types (Germany = bread culture capital)

Sausages, cheeses, sauerkraut, fermented vegetables from peasant tradition

Weihnachtsgebäck (stollen, lebkuchen), Faschingskrapfen, pretzels — all with historical roots

Monastic brewing and farming still active (e.g., Andechs Abbey, Weltenburg)
Traditional herbal medicine survives in Heilpraktiker, natural pharmacies

Monastic knowledge: chamomile, St. John’s wort, valerian — all still used

Protection symbols still carved on old houses and barns (e.g., hex signs, blessings)

Seasonal superstitions and folk sayings tied to weather, saints, planting cycles
Cultural values: Ordnung muss sein, Pünktlichkeit, Pflicht, Treue, Bescheidenheit

Strong sense of Gemeinwohl (common good) and Ehrlichkeit (honesty)

Protestant and Catholic ethics still influence attitudes toward work, guilt, responsibility

Modern German constitutional values like Würde des Menschen (human dignity) have deep theological and philosophical roots
Coats of arms, city seals, heraldry used in towns and organizations

Village fairs, wine festivals, and Kirchweih events with centuries of local tradition

Even bureaucracy (yes, even that) is historically rooted in Prussian administrative efficiency

The very structure of German society — from town halls to tax law to holidays — is historical continuity in action

We didnt mobilize in vietnam either.

Randomly infect dozens of tourists with a super-virus on their way out of the country. Give them a crazy ebola variant that will wipe out most of china and lock down the boarders this time once they start getting sick.

big

strong

go take Vietnam or Taiwan then

It was still by all definitions except your retarded one a war where USA lost. Not all wars must have a mobilization.

Tariffs wouldn't work during war time against the literal sweatshop of the world also starting proxy wars against China with anything besides Japan and maybe South Korea is asking for china to consume them and become a bigger threat then even imperial japan during ww2.

Cuck, USA almost destroying china with tarrifs alone. Doing nothing would destroy China.

Just look out of the window for once. The usa is culturally and genetically destroyed beyond repair and you're lucky if you become a Mexico 2.0 in the future because you still have your 60 million niggers on top of that.
It will probably be more like south Africa.
Best of all you WON both world wars but still ended up many times worse than us German losers for example.

Once read a short story from the based days of 1906 when stories about causal genocide were entertainment. Thats kinda how a european coalition takes down an aggressive imperial china. Only they used airships to virus bomb them.

No it wasnt. Not mobilizing was one of the big criticisms even at the time.

Chinese can eat more protein than American's.
They import tons of beef cause they can afford it, while American's are fretting about egg prices.

The idea that China will starve if there's a naval blockade is pure cope. They'll miss out on beef and have to eat more pork and rice. These retards apparently don't realize China isn't an island, and has land borders with friendly countries either.

Even if the pipeline is untouched, there are only ~2m barrels a day coming into China via pipeline. Plus they have about ~4m barrels per day produced domestically. They consume ~16m barrels per day. 60% of their oil comes in on tankers, almost all of it via the Strait of Malacca.

Sailing a single submarine to that strait and lobbing torpedoes at tankers would cause China's entire economy to collapse.

Same deal with cargo ships and food and/or outbound cargo ships with Chinese exports. China is far from calorie self-sufficient and their entire economy is built around manufacturing for export abroad. If the ships stop, China stops.

Even if the US does absolutely nothing to all of that shipping, it will stop on its own... Because companies aren't going to sail their several hundred million dollar cargo ships and tankers through an active warzone where China and the US are lobbing 1500km range missiles at every other ship they pick up on satellite/radar.

I like to read old German newspapers from our colonial times and those times were truly something different.
Good stuff and thankfully all saved online to read in good quality.

You've spent way too much time on Anon Babble anon. Between our two countries yours is much father down the road to genetic extinction than mine. I get being butthurt because you idolize hitler or some childish cope but stop sucking off every shitskin of the week you think is gonna save you from america or the west. None of them will.

No Chinaman ever called me a racist

It was a support operation for the south Vietnamese the US never declared war and never mobilized

how war?

Stop buying Chink dogshit products.
Stop sending coal and iron to China
Blockade all food shipments
... wait 6 months...
No industries
No jobs
No food except leaves and sticks -tier famine
...wait another 6 months...
Chinks will have a new "1-child policy"
1 child per cook-pot.

problem solved

All Chink industries

The chinaman was probably calling you some racial slur instead.

It's not an empire, just a country. Don't count on past political circumstances from a country older than Rome that are irrelevant today to magically deliver you a victory. They have the best infrastructure and most effective bureaucracy in the world now, it puts your country to shame.

In the vietnam war Americans lost around 50k over 20 years supporting the south vietnamese. In one month in 1979 China took about 50k losses in a direct border war.

In absolute numbers you're below 50% white already while white children are completely in minority.
In German statistics it is very bad but all the slavshits and other Europeans are not counted as native so it looks worse than it is.

Thats great, I like old books like that. I remember reading a book in my highschool library where a guy went back in time and gave the Confederates AK47's but I think that was from the 1950's. Theres a good one from 1887 thats a collection of letters sent back and forth between Christian missionary's in china and how every town and village they went too the people were horribly demonically possessed.
Demon Possession and Allied Themes is the name if your interested.

And the american gods (niggers) are nothing compared how filled with niggers the usa is.not even France is so niggered.

This.
China only is a power because kikes want slave labor from them.

It is funny how some Southerners look at this map and their only problem with it is that they are free when they shouldn't have been brought here in the first place.
Kikes really are the root of all evil for facilitating the trade and then campaigning for equality

I miss Mao, I want another great leap forward and another cultural revolution.

Slavshits and turks just as german as anyone else

Thats just cope

Most of their consumption is civilian transportation, which is rapidly switching to electric, with millions of new EVs built every year.

A few years ago it would have been a real problem. But now, you're not going to collapse the civilian economy. They'll chug along with rationing, and the strategic reserves will ensure the military isn't going to run dry anytime soon.

I've just said it's the exact opposite.
Why do you retards are unable to read basic sentences?

a country older than Rome

Its not. The country thats older than rome sits in taiwan. The ccp is a jewish commie monstrosity born in the 1940s.

Fuck me do you even know why the Long March happened? China was in a fucking civil war before the Japanese invaded and then had promptly restarted it once they were kicked out. So China has been stable for less than a hundred years and the CCP is very aware of that. That's why they get wumaos like you to shill for them.

>Same deal with cargo ships and food and/or outbound cargo ships with Chinese exports. China is far from calorie self-sufficient and their entire economy is built around manufacturing for export abroad. If the ships stop, China stops.

see and America doesn't produce enough missiles to lob them at all civilian ships willynilly. You only makes 650 of your shitty Patriot AA missiles per year, that's fucking nothing, and it's a vitally important munition.

BY trooning out their military, allowing 600lb fatties enter, making the service men wear red high heels, and coddling the service men with large portions of heavy carbs and meaty food 6 times a day. Also send all cia, military contract workers, warhawks, and all their relatives to the frontline in Ukraine.

Oh you said germany is doomed? Because if not then you said what I said you said.

Why fight them instead of joining arms, I think killing all the jews is a far higher priority than the chinese

Older than rome and what survived? The roman church till exist in the west btw, laws still based on our past, architecture ancient etc. The west is actually older than china

We dont even use patriot missiles. We just sell them to other countries. We wouldn't even have to build new missiles. The missiles and torpedos and bombs on american ships right now are enough to wipe out the chink merchant fleet.

So you think because 100 years ago when China was ruled by warlords and there was a civil war, that they'll just spontaneously have an internal revolt and civil war now because... reasons?

That's just dumb fuck cope. Get with reality,

they unironically cant the Chinse have far more numbers , a far bigger industry and manufacturing capacity, and a far bigger will to fight and take casualty's on a societal level

and what survived?

Nothing.

Sorry, but whether you like it or not, you're getting drafted to team Jew. Also, you voted for it.

We're doomed because we lost the war and American ideology is genocide through immigration. It's just funny that you as the winner has the worst demographics and degenerate culture from all the other nations.

Not my problem. I just want yet another Japanese rape fest in China where they kill a countless amount of chinks and rape even more chink foids.

It's so funny to me that nafo trannies still think 19 large, rich countries ganging up on one small sanctioned one is le epic own and tremendous show of power

And yet demographically the US will outlast you all.

Reminder that the ccp actually destroyed confucius grave with his descendants.

if naval drones can kill any possibility of naval invasion, it would mean that the Chinese will be able to also as easily starve out Taiwan out by not letting any ship get to it using the same naval drones swarm

The cultural revolution was also a widespread political disaster that was pretty much another civil war alongside the fact that Taiwan still exists therefore the original civil war never actually ended. You should know that right? The peasant dictatorship knows best. Why don't you get off the computer and go work in a field?

Why are amerimutts so obsessed with this dam and murdering millions of civilians? Are they chomping out like niggers because their declining society can't imagine building wonders like that anymore?

Regardless, it's a gravity dam and fucking massive. Nothing except direct nuclear strikes can scratch it, and even then it would cause a breech, not a collapse. Wuhan would be flooded but Shanghai would be fine

Their ex-president was fucking with the current guy, he even had a plan to have him assassinated but couldn't get rid of him because 1/3 of the party still listened to him. Xi had to wait until the old man croaked before he could even enact most of his policies, its why he never left china lol. Like, shit like this is going on all over the world constantly. Thinking chinas a place of stability and peace is insane, the entire world is in a constant state of chaos.

What other wins can they look too. Americas only wins since ww2 are Granada and Saddam Hussein and Ghadaffi. When was the last time Germany won a war? Franco-Prussian? UK "won" ww2 and lost its entire empire in the process. France "won" by immediately capitulating and remaining occupied till the end of the conflict.

blockade china from affair

also you can not blockade china , either China will sooner or later have naval supremacy or if your naval drone swarm/submarine scenario is to become a truth then all naval activity around the world would die and all the world would be blockaded

If i was chinese, i would destroy that dam, it killed million old species.(animals alive during ancient china)

The truth is that no one cares about that at all while it still created enormous butthurt in the Serbs especially the kosovo thing.

have naval supremacy

then take Taiwan already jesus christ

You cant cut off large chunks of supply lines affected china immensly. What? You obviously can

What wars have china won? Other than the ones against themselves.

Zogbots are bloodthirsty monsters who think that killing civilians is the only way to win a war.

Modeen chinese borders are not even created by the chinese, it was the manchus. Modern china is fake

Americans already started to view spic mexcrements as white so sure if you count all of them as fellow real Americans then you will be fine but it isn't.

Probably not because that would require china achieve dominance over the eastern side of taiwan and probably violating the territorial waters of japan and philippines. If they have any hope at all of talking taiwan they will need to keep third parties out of it. Especially japan.

It was a genuine question lol I guess they kicked the japs? or did they just leave after killing a few million dudes?

also you can not blockade china

Yes china can easily be blockaded as explained already. Keep reading the thread anon.

look at this dumbass kike ZOG shill, China can project power far more easily in the pacific especially the south china sea area and will have far better and easier logistics then the US, if anti ship missiles and drones can supposedly easily stop China from landing then China will have a even easier job for preventing any ship from landing into Taiwan, which would mean china would not even need to invade

You're a complete retard. Explain to me how you would block china from the west.

You can cut off a lot of supply lines. This alone would have severe effects.

Just blow up all the cargo ships, embargo. Then blow up any rail line that exits the country

Imagine believing for a second that the US+NAFO trannies can ever defeat China in a conventional war.

Full embargo. Would force china to flood the rest of the world markets, forcing them to put extremy high tariffs on china(to protect their own industry) use us and western economic might to force indis asian nations to reduce trade with china etc

We'll just make buddy buddy with Russia, who will totally fall for it and fight China for us, so we can get back to focusing on destroying Russia.

lol, American carriers couldn't even beat the HOUTHIS.
They'll last literally five seconds vs. China

youtu.be/xGxj2iHAtzE
I admire Mao, he managed to kill probably the most Chinamen in history alongside getting them to worship him for it. Not even the Japanese could accomplish such feats of death and destruction.

This coming from a guy that thinks germany becoming ukraine is ok. I know you're obsessed with blacked memes and all but this isn't a debate. We have the demographic data and the birthrates. Your people are rapidly going extinct. The fastest dissapearing ethnicity in europe. White americans will long outlast you. The last bastion of germans will be double chinned morons in wisconsin.

The baiji has been extinct since the 80s, it sucks but nothing cns really be done about it.

just "embargo" China

Embarrassing post.

The EU won't accept any embargo and china has many markets outside USA. And anyway that's not a blockade.

Amerca stroke a deal with the houthis. The only reason why america "loses" is because of human right restraints

no you retard if you could blockade China from sea that mean that you either achieve naval supremacy over it (impossible), or drones and anti ship missiles are so good that you do not need naval supremacy to do it, then guess not only china is has land borders with Russia which can provide it with every thing it need, China can also use the same drone and anti ship missiles to destroy the hole western naval activity and the whole world would be navally blockaded

Are you telling me USA lost in vietnam because it didn't kill enough civilians?

Would force china to flood the rest of the world markets, forcing them to put extremy high tariffs on china(to protect their own industry) use us and western economic might to force indis asian nations to reduce trade with china etc

I thought thats what trump was doing now? Ive been avoiding ((((news)))) lately but I thought that was the end goal of everyone getting a tariff, not having income tax would of been a nice bonus but the main focus was to fuck china.

80s? Source( not the only species affected)
Why emberrasing? You can embargo china, changing supply lines will extremly hurt but cutting china off will affect them the most

Nato doesn't care about China that's only a problem of the USA

Nigger NATO is USA and nothing else, the armies of the EU can't beat a fucking a congolian country

You mean that part of china thats separated from anything by hundreds of miles of wastelands and mountains? The terrain already does that. Good luck trying to supply china via land routes thru shitholes like agfhanistan.

Wont work without europe puttin tarrifs on china as well. Trumps anti western politics make no sense

You win the retard award.

Their media talks nonstop about China BAD especially their senile president so the maga American drones hate what they get told to hate.
Just look how blindly they followed all the nonsense in the middle east all for the sake of Israel.
They call Chinese bugs but Americans are more like it.

naval supremacy over it

You do know the straits of Malacca are rather easily blockaded by a true blue water navy right? The vast majority of PLAN shipping is litoral

NATO exits to keep America in, Germany down and Russia out.

(words from an American diplomat)

They want a subjugated EUROPE... subjugated to the US.

Corrected.
And pretty much this.

No iam saying us military power is extremly destructive.

I think you're just bitter because Germany ate every turd foreign powers forced upon it and gave up all territories just to turn into a browned shithole in the end. Serbs still have the balls to resist and defend their homeland the way germs never could

Bombing of Yugoslavia was one of the most importants events of the 1990s because it was one of the most blatant violations of international law and a precedent government will use to invade and attack sovereign countries for decades. Russia is already doing it and explicitly named Kosovo as a precedent for the ongoing war on which the west had to spend 100+ billion dolars.

The entire "rule based" international politics was destroyed to create a tiny failed drug den which nafo STILL can't get into UN, 26 years later. With all the money, diplomatic influence and military efforts spent. It's hillarious

Good point

Its not always about winning, taiwan will destroy the great damms and fuck up everything downstream including the capital and all other major cities. Most of the important personell will survive and evac. before the flooding sets in but atleast 400 million will die in that flood alone, famine will sweep the nation, whole economic center of china wil lbe wiped with in a day. Most of the country will have no electricity. Rebellions will spark and the ccp will loose its grip. While taiwan would mostlikely get fucked up maybe fully annihilated but china will crumble. Boardering countries will. Swiftly claim whole regions and china knows it thats why nothing will ever happen. The thing is you dont need direct strikes, damms are build for static pressure if you dump a lot of explosives into that basin or around it the force of the waves could do the deal, also that river ate it self throught absurd mountain ranges you could also aim for the cliffsides to cause huge landslides that will cause massive waves also possible that those massive tankers could be forced into the damm aswell. Like said its not about beating china just about hurting it enought, if that shit happens china will never be able to recover.

China cant project any significant naval power outside its immediate surrounding waters and its gonna need all it has to invade taiwan anyway. The US doesn't have to even get close to china to blockade it. Hell the australians could blockade china. Let me give you tip chang. Dont try to fight anglos at sea.

unironically yes. Their rules of engagement were fucking retarded. If they knew the veitcong were firing artillery from a hill at them, they werent allowed to return fire unless they had visual confirmation so they had to send guy up that hill to get visual confirmation so they dont accidentally kill civilians.

It was designed to be a forever war with ROE's designed by dipshit politicians.

They can't even produce enough munitions to keep Ukraine supplied.

And it still can't win wars. You don't win with just bombs.

They are actual wumaos anon and if they are not then they are completely retarded.
Even a cutoff of just 5% of their food supplies domestically through blocking fertilizer/oil or preventing import is going to cause riots alongside possible famine.

Geemany won during ww1 and ww2, look at the per capita death rates, clearly won a lot of battles(ovjectively)

lol, lmao
This is off-the-charts-tier cope.
Which base are you posting from?

The retard is the one that thinks overland trade routes to low infrastructure turd worlds shitholes are just a efficient as bulk container oceanic trade.

I thought it was to try pressure everyone into doing what he wanted. If he just asked the Euros to tariff china they would tell him to go fuck himself, if he turns the screw a bit then you will call him a retarded niggerfaggot but still put tariffs on china.

and how the fuck would you do that without achieving naval supremacy over china (impossible), this would be repeat of the US japan naval war in WW2 but this time US has a worse industry then japan in WW2, while China have a even better industry then the US in WW2 and all of this while China will have the better logistic due to the theater being at it door step

What? America could have leveld vietnam IF they wanted to. Their weapons are just extremly destructive is what iam saying

Your life is materially better than almost all germans that have ever lived.

Why are mutts so retarded?

Kazakhstan and vietnam aren't low infrastructure turd worlds shitholes, that's why you have won the retard award.

To summarize: They struck a deal after they realized that they couldn't easily defeat them militarily, and were embarrassing themselves.

He says while posting on his kikephone while taking a shit.

War is a big word especially in world wars.
In WWI we completely annihilated the Russian empire and minor stuff like Serbia and Romania or Belgium while fighting the entire war on the west in French territory and they were unable to push us out until our home front collapsed and ended the war.
In WWII we took many nations within weeks while lost the overall war but main objective of Germany was destroying the Jewish soviet Union and in the 90s it collapsed so at the end we won one could say.

straits of Malacca

you do know that not only is straits of Malacca not American territory, it is not the only road that the chinse can use to do shipping, it is just the most economical one

Taiwan is an air and naval base alongside okinawa and other islands.

Again, just put an embargo on china(us and the west), cheap chinese good flooding the world will force them to react agsinst china, while we pressure countries trading with them

cut off the best route for supply

you cannot be serious

you braindead dumb ass if china achieve naval supremacy over the pacific, it would easily be able to dominate the oceans

US tech is garbage. The Chinese would win without issues

Except half of your youth (30 and below) and most of your infants don't care or follow any of that because they are shitskins.

Keep on hanging to your paliatives, though.

impossible to do without market crashes in the US and Europe, and it's also a severe coordination problem where defectors are disproportionately rewarded.

Vietnam is no ally of the chinks and yes Kazakhstan is a turd world low infrastructure shithole. Like 75 percent of china's trade partners literally couldn't trade overland with china in such a scenario even if they wanted to. No direct links and all.

you are literally braindead, by you logic cutting of Sinai would mean that east Asia would be blockaded from trading with Europe

Almost winning is called losing in real life.

Between our two countries yours is much father down the road to genetic extinction than mine.

Is Amerimutt

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All shipping lanes to china are dominated by the US.

Look up the sino-Vietnamese war then compare it to the US-Vietnamese war it's hilarious. China lost in a month a direct border war and lost about the same amount of men as the US did in 20 years.

It's a jew.

Taiwan is island it can be starved to death, you also still need to transport all the new equipment and reinforcement and logistics from the main land in the US, while all what china need is in the Chinese mainland is just few KMs away from the front

90 percent of the chink navy doesn't even have a range greater than 1000 miles. Its a coastal fleet trying to take on the most power naval force in human history.

You didn't count the amount of dead south vietnamese soldiers.

Japan, Korea, and Guam are right next door tho?

Only jews can do math.

How low wops have fallen.

Che chinese could sink all US farbage without issues

Once the Chinks win the battle over Taiwan and the first Chain Islands, they will be able to beat the American Navy in the Pacific all the way to Los Angeles and San Francisco.

Dumb mutt. Why do you think your officer class is so afraid of them?

Depends what you count as "west" and what you count as "china". Where did western civilization start? Greece or even older?, central asia like Scythians and what not nomad tribes ? Or even older like Egypt, Sumerians?. Now do you consider China from today to be the same as the one from 2000 years ago? Not in the slightest, there's nothing similar in today's China to the one from 2000 years ago when it was peak civilization with TAO and all the other philosophies and inventions they had for that age etc, not the same people, not the same religion, not the same morals, not even the same language or the same landscape, they literally became uncultured bugmen, they destroyed "their" culture in the ccp revolution but they always like to pound their chest at how ancient china's culture is and shieet in the media. Like you said a lot of the stuff from 2000 years from the west still exists today but thewesthasfallen.jpg. everything is so corrupted that you can't really compare this clown world we live to the empires the romans or the greeks had yk

you moron in war time China does not need to to trade it excess industrial output to the west for profit, since in war time all your industrial excess is directed toward war, it will be the west that will be hurt from no longer having most of what they consume and use, while all of what china need is raw material and resources

Can we count all the dead khimer rough solders in the sino vitnamese war then too?

Euro armies in the cold War were really strong and big but when the Soviets broke down all the military money was rather used for nonsense welfare and the armies went to shit.
The most important thing is an indigenous weapon industry and Germany has a big one with excellent expertise so all we need is pumping put more factories and get conscription again to get enough meatbags ready.
Not even 10% of nations in the world have a good military industry and Europe while sleeping still can become mighty again.

No it couldnt. See thats the thing. The US navy doesnt even have to get in range of china to destroy their trade. It can stand off thousands of miles and wreck them.

Once the Chinks win the battle over Taiwan

Never gonna happen.

Y-yeah you just stopped the best route economically for things to get into China b-but we'll find another

you're silly
The US has been maintaining fleets to support Taiwan and as inept the US navy is they are nowhere near china levels of bad yet. If it is so easy to take Taiwan then just take it wumao. So what if a few million die it's just chinamen.

not only that, it also would have zero effect on china, since you export your industrial out put to be able to economically grow your industrial capacity beyond your local consumption level, and it is in war time where you switch that excess industry form export for profit to making shit for war

You think there are no roads going from Kazakhstan to Russia and from Russia to China? Mutts are so retarded. I want to see your orange retard actually try to go full 100% totalen krieg trade war against the whole world and see how fast America disappears. Too bad that he will... chicken out so we will never see the full consequences of his intended plans.

Not only that but they persecuted Tao masters and were killing them like crazy. And all the temples, manuscripts etc etc. And you could say oh how revolutionary! Getting rid of all religions and what not but they just replaced all the religions with a new religion (cpp) lol. They just larpers

God your are delusional, this post showed that trying to use logic and rational with you is a fools errant

Millions of you gypsy roaches fleed here to clean our toilets and your women to work in our brothels.
That's obviously such a winning move.

wumao cope

Lmao, start another cultural revolution already China needs a shakeup.

So it's the god dam?

They just sailed around Australia with a couple ships that are armed with more missiles than Australia's entire navy combined, and made everyone shit their pants when they did a live fire drill between Aus and NZ.

I know from basic logistics that transporting products overland thru central asia is orders of magnitude slower and less efficient than transporting goods via ship. Thats a story as old as time.

Muttoids dropped more bombs on Vietnam that all of WWII combined and those morons still lost at the end.

Nobody was shooting at them. Sailing to australia is nothing special. Captain cook did it hundreds of years ago.

Japan

also a island you retard and this time with 120 M people, good luck trying to maintain it logistic and prevent it from starving to death in the caisse it foolishly decide to join the war

Korea

will either stay neutral or will get zerg rushed by Chinese from the mainland through north Korea

And pussied out after just 60,000 kia over a decade.
American's were much stronger people back then too.

Imagine 20,000 dead in an afternoon if a carrier task force got sunk. The American psyche could not handle it.

Because Anglos have a jewish mentality, and that means that anything that isn't anglo should be either slaves or destroyed, they only get mad at jews and Israel because they also have this same mentality with the difference that that has been their own frame of ideas since Abraham

Every attempt to counter america creates more enemies. See how china's quick war for taiwan suddenly becomes a mutifront war against half the world?

The US has been maintaining fleets to support Taiwan and as inept the US navy is they are nowhere near china levels of bad yet. If it is so easy to take Taiwan then just take it wumao. So what if a few million die it's just chinamen.

that in peace time and the fleet is small compared to what would be needed in caisse of total war scenario, the logistic will be none existant for the US, and each ship it would lose would basically a permanant loss, especially logistical merchant ships, the US have 0 industrial capacity for making those and all the capacity for making them is mostly in china and a little in Korea (will stay neutral if they want to survive) and a tiny bit in japan

zerg rushed through North Korea

what is the DMZ

and all the US bases there

Do not forget the logistics and politics of stationing chinese troops in North Korea.

You won't be able to feed Japan

The US and Japan have the amazing ability of trading with one another across an ocean that china could not access once the war starts.

and how would the smaller then China US navy be able to both dominate the pacific and all the trade sea routes and maintain logistics, all of this with zero industry to replace loses, yeah keep up the hopuim

Euro armies in the cold War

I have news for you. WE AREN'T IN THE COLD WAR, and the average "male" in europe is now pic related and that's without counting the insane numbers of immigrants, The Europe of 50 years ago is as close as the modern Europe as the Pharaohs and modern Egypt

Oh poor wumao china does not have a proper deep blue navy their tonnage is in tofu dreg ships.

Chinas navy isn't larger than the US fleet. Not to mention the combined navies of all these other countries you want to attack. China is not in any way a naval peer to the US.

Checked.
They're aspirationally jewish turbo niggers whose parents had their dicks mutilated.

They blame all their military failings on being the most empathetic and humane people on earth, then cope about how it's still kind of a win cause they killed a shit ton of civilians to get a good KDR, and fantasize about the bloodbaths they wish they could unleash if only they had the chance.

Amerigolem are the most twisted freaks.

when you run out of argument just switch to empty insults, not only is China producing more ships then the US and more tonnage then the US, not only is their production is only growing, their ships are more modern and far more economical, it still have far more industrial capacity in reserve...
but keep up the delusion

Yes anon if you make war on the US we will utterly destroy you. Thats kind of our thing. Well build up afterwards tho so theres that.

China fleet is larger in number and soon will be in tonnage, it ships are more modern and capable, and it industrial output and growth of fleet is by far out pacing the US one, the rest of countrys navy's is irrelevant even if they take part in the war

He states and objective fact. The chink fleet is mostly coastal transports. It doesn't compare to the us navy at all in blue water capacity.

insults

wumao, tofu dreg

I'm saying that none of that matters if they cannot get off of the coast and are of poor quality. Now please tell me about Lin Biao and his cucking.

no you dumb ass, i am talking in caisse this country join this war, and japan and south Korea (extremely unlikely to join the US in the war) are irrelevant and will not change the outcome of the war for the reason that i already mentioned

Except none of that is true. Pic related is more naval warship tonnage than the chink fleet builds in years.

Nigger, no American has ever died defending his homeland. You are purely an expeditionary army going on military adventures.

The jap navy alone is better than the chink fleet. Far better honestly.

you dumb ass the US army would be destroyed and absolutely crushed if it tries to protect south Korea, good luck trying to hold China from more then few months in a land war at their door step, all of this while your logistic run from the other side of the glob

Yes america rules the world.

The US and Japan have the amazing ability of trading with one another across an ocean that china could not access once the war starts.

yeah sure, the power of magic and friendship would be able to secure all the ships that would need to reach japan for it not starve out

keep coping

They're aspirationally jewish turbo niggers whose parents had their dicks mutilated.

They blame all their military failings on being the most empathetic and humane people on earth, then cope about how it's still kind of a win cause they killed a shit ton of civilians to get a good KDR, and fantasize about the bloodbaths they wish they could unleash if only they had the chance.

Amerigolem are the most twisted freaks.

Kek
Exactly.
Extemely well put.
Someone ought to make a captcha out of this.

In a land battle between the ROKA and the PLA I would bet on the ROKA.

stop making up shit out of your ass you delusional mutt

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Chinese navy it blue sea capable you Absolut delusional idiot

Indeed

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About 10 percent of it is.

Absolut retard, the Chinese build more tonnage yearly then the US do and this is with admission of your own government

So china is going to run a uboat campaign stretching from the eastern china coast to the western united states and face no resistance? If they can accomplish significant kills on the US then China really numbah one. Or you know the best China would actually muster is just protecting their coasts barely.

China would win an offensive battle with inferior logistics and planning against a well dug in US army, navy, airforce, and marines

sure wumao sure, also your translation sucks it's obvious you are ESL

i cant wait to see you zog bots get slaughtered

Geemany won during ww1 and ww2

HAHAHHAAHAHAHAAHHAHA :breathes in: HAHAHAHHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHA

citation

your ass

So china is going to run a uboat campaign stretching from the eastern china coast to the western united states and face no resistance? If they can accomplish significant kills on the US then China really numbah one. Or you know the best China would actually muster is just protecting their coasts barely.

all what you need is fire control the pacific and you would starve japan you dumb ass

the lion does not concern himself with the opinion of s*rbs

China would win an offensive battle with inferior logistics and planning against a well dug in US army, navy, airforce, and marines

the US is the one who will have none existant logistics, and good luck stopping millions upon millions of chinse in their back door (korea) with like at max 400K US soldiers

You cleaned your country of a lot of gypsies and whores by dumping them here. Clearly were the ones winning in this situation

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Utterly delusional, they have the ROK and Japan at the very least to supply and support them. I dont even know what you mean by fire control the pacific and you act as though US, Japanese, and Korean ship production wouldn't skyrocket if a war happened in the pacific.

Nope not in warships.

The last time the PLA fought a major battle, old men and women defeated it.

they have the ROK and Japan at the very least to supply and support them.

south Korea will be the battle field and will have zero ability to supply them, japan would need to supply them through the sea and with ships, and still does not have the military capacity to supply the entire US army

dont even know what you mean by fire control the pacific

it mean the ability to shoot at things in the pacific ie the ability to shoot at the countless defenseless ships coming to try and supply japan with what it need to not starve

Nope not in warships.

yes they do retard that why they are fast catching up to you in tonage, at faster pace then even your projections

socially, just broadcast that everyone else in the world is having fun and sex until chinkcels burn it all down

Nope. This is something even you can look up anon. Its no state secret.

and you act as though US, Japanese, and Korean ship production wouldn't skyrocket if a war happened in the pacific.

the US have zero ability to do so, it has zero ship building industry, Korea would either stay neutral or fall within months, only japan can but china have a order of magnitude more ship building capacity then japan, and would be far from enough