RT analysis: drone attack just for show, won't change course of war

TARGET THE NUCLEAR ARMAMENTS NEXT VLOD TURN THEM INTO DIRTY BOMBS.

Go check the other threads. If it ends up that 40 were actually destroyed thats absolutely massive, but from what Ive read it seems to be only 5, which tracks for the media exaggerating wholesome heckin' Ukraines successes.

They threaten it for everything.

10 were visually confirmed lost on single base out of four hit

it was hilarious they were able to pull it off, but was russia even able to use those bombers in the war without getting shot down?
if not whats the point? seems like a waste of a sneak attack.
why not hit some air defenses or something idk

Have you retards never heard of cruise missiles?

ziggers are so cringe

Tu-95 was primary delivery system of cruise missiles

yeah, what about them?

Out of two hit.

ftfy

we didnt need those bombers

only 3 destroyed

lol
lmao

ahh intradasting

these bombers likely weren't tactical ones.

we didn't need the nuclear triad anyway

Kek, love to see the cope and impotent seething at the same time.

10

40.
They attacked more than one airbase, they only showed video of one so far.

RT "analysis"

God, westerners are dumb.

I doubt this accomplished much beyond embarrassing Putin. The retaliation is probably going to be crazy.

Go read up on them

WTF do you think the TU-95 carries?

They both launch them. They are both platforms for those missiles.

zigger cope is so funny, it really has a unique flavor

3 destroyed

mfw

there's satellite imagery that shows about 7 hit from 2 other bases. it looks like about around 11 all up, since they'd need to have hit another 30 at two more.

Why are you coping?

Just admit you got fucked in the ass and hide in the corner, you look so butthurt now.

"There’s an important detail to remember. People are laughing at the long-range Russian bombers being left out in the open, vulnerable to attack. However, the bomber visibility is required as part of several nuclear agreements between the USA and Russia (SALT and START). Our U.S. long range nuclear capable bombers, covered under the same agreements, are also visible."

From th3 conservative tree house.

It's bullshit too, Russia left the treaty 4 years ago because they wanted to use the bombers to launch missiles into Ukraine.

PR Damage Control

LOL. So they really got fucked by the attack, huh?

possible damaged

The cope is real indeed. But yeah I see three destroyed 95s, no problem here.

Flag checks out

shows 3 destroyed ancient planes. possibly.

did you think this through hyhyl?
how come you dont look up or share ukriyniyan losses?

It's barely been a day kek, you guys are in such a rush to "confirm" the numbers early, they said 40, I'm inclined to believe them given the clarity and good execution of the videos shown so far of just one base.

two more weeks and ukraine will reclaim its lost territory.

big dawg I've seen more then 3 on fire so come out from your krokodil/AIDS filled stuper and smell the tu95s

They are essentially suicide drones.

It's mostly propaganda victory

Zelensky needs it to ensure fundings and morale of population

Same like Hitler was obsessed with taking Stalingrad mostly because of the name of the city, not because of it strategic value

You're going to lose more valuable weapon systems from your own people btw.
Your own people wanted this to happen. They want you to lose so the war can end.

If I set your car on fire, does it mean I've destroyed it?

The very fact RT is discussing this so openly is a tell (RIP Clot Adams)

Russian media only do this within the parameters of government so that means the damage is BAD
That also means the somber mood being reflected in Moscow could indicate that something has been triggered, as doctrine and it has to be discussed.
I dont think we will see physical responses today, I am waiting on a declaration

member Moskva?

the zigger cope is UNREAL

The western world has been bombarded with anti Russian properganda for five years, many people not believe it.

But the reality, a truth you can measure with a ruler, is that putin has successfully seized and occupied a third of Ukraine for years, and reaped the rewards of this terror right through Eurasia.

The west, NATO specifically, lied, and lied, and lied about their commitment to defending eastern Europe. They never deployed regular forces to oppose putin. They were not prepared to go to war with Russia to protect eastern Europe.
Instead, NATO spent money sniping Russian assets, weakening Russian forces for their own benefit, while refusing to mount a hard defence. If it were not for the corruption in multinational arms, and the war profiteering, Ukraine would have got literally nothing. Instead they've been the testing ground for multinational arms companies and a dumping ground of military write-off assets.

Understand that when a peace deal is drawn, the Russians will be GIVEN everything up to kyiv. That's how losing a war works. Ukraine LOST on the battlefield, couldn't try repel the Russian army, when military aid runs out the ukranians will have to SURRENDER, and that means giving Russia MORE land than the Russians currently control.

Why hasn't peace been achieved?
Because NATO wants to snipe Russian forces even if the war is unwinable, zelinsky is a Jewish plant, and the ukranian people aren't able to elect a different leader or deal with putin directly in order to end the war.

The ukranians though, like Poland in ww2, they could play both sides. And all they got was fucked by both sides. Everyone could see this coming but them, that was zelinskies doing.

Less than 10 planes destroyed

It's literally a nothingburger

Nigger, they attacked 5 air bases - Amur oblast the truck exploded, Ryazani and Ivanovo the attack was repelled without losses, Murmansk and Irkutsk the video footage of 4 or 5 burning planes from one and we know the other has a couple of losses as well. No pilots wete killed. NAFO failed to achieve anything. Year and a half of planning lol, lmao.

Cope takes aside, why would it change the course of war? The only thing that this changes for Russia is that it has fewer platforms to launch cruise missiles from, and that was never a decisive factor.
Personally I'm glad that Zelensky isn't as cucked as Putin and shows willingness to continue the war instead of signing a treacherous peace deal.

starts with ww2 comparison

stopped reading here

"its 40 bombers!!"

"nooo hohol its 4 bombers!!!"

"ackchyually its 10 bombers"

People are missing the point a bit. It's not even about the bombers, it's about how wide the GUR and SBU agent web in Russia is. The FSB and GRU were completely outplayed.
And it doesn't matter how much land you've taken over if your enemy can do whatever he want inside your country.

When our guys went and said which ship actually got sunk? Yeah.
It is a pretty bit PR hit, yeah. Nothing else though.

Well, cars are cheap unlike planes

Russia doesn't have nukes

Russian missiles can't hit shit

Russia can't make more missiles because of sanctions

lmao Russia still using bombers from the 50s

we destroyed 40 (10) ancient bombers from 4 (2) airbases that were barely even used against us. this is totally not a pr stunt

pathetic

four...
this thread is retarded

Ukrainian AA moved closer to the front.

Near the end of the Special Military Operation, Russia pinned its hopes on the Shahed drone – a weapon launched by the hundreds, against which no defense was possible. It was powerful, terrifying, and militarily useless. The term “wonder weapon” it inspired now carries only irony.

$500 drone destroys a $200 million dollar aircraft

mfw

In our defence, the two airbases hit were literally closest to ukraine border (not a real country).
We got the funds. And the technology.

it was an ineffective attack

actually it was only 3 planes that were hit

actually it was more, but it was just non destructive fires

actually...

let me guess, there was no cart of shit at all?

left the treaty

they did so symbolically and said they will still follow it as long as the US does.

On 21 February 2023, Russia suspended its participation in New START.[8] However, it did not withdraw from the treaty, and clarified that it would continue to abide by the numerical limits in the treaty.

Why don't ziggers do the same thing inside Ukraine?

Even if this doesnt change Ukraine war its a huge blow to Russia kek

On 21 February 2023, during the Presidential Address to the Federal Assembly, Vladimir Putin announced the suspension of Russia's participation in the New START treaty

In Syria the CIA ran a program where they provided TOW missiles in exchange for video of TOW strikes.

Because the primary interest of America was not winning that war, simply sniping assets. So they only provided tow, only for that purpose, and used the video for properganda. Huge success for cia.

The drones in Ukraine are exactly the same, a cia funded program to snipe Russian assets. Not what Ukraine needs to win the war, they would sell the drones except without giving the CIA footage they wouldn't get any more. These ukie units are on the CIA payroll, sniping Russians for USD, not actually invested or intent on winning the war. This is why the drone attacks are constantly spammed on Anon Babble, yet despite all the properganda that Ukraine is winning, Ukraine is actually losing.

CIA has bounty on specific Russian systems, notably s300/400 missile systems, but that just doesn't align with Ukraine's military objectives.

More like the front moved closer to the AA.

You still don't know how many of those trucks are still traveling around Russia and how many of them could be in Moscow right now. Russian intelligence really screwed up.

A drop in a bucket, honestly. Now if they actually deleted 40 aircrafts, that would be huge. Alas, yeah or something of planning, and all damages can be replenished in a month, maybe faster.

Why can Ziggers literally never admit to something
Its always the same

Nothing was hit

Okay it was hit but not destroyed

Okay it was destroyed but not as man,

Still not as many, official number is low

Okay its more than that but wont change everything

You niggers do that every time. Lying is ingrained in your brains kek

Stalingrad was the logistic hub where all caucasus oil went through but what would a zigger understand from war anyway.
Ziggers believes attrition warfare and prolonging the war as long as possible is a good thing too
Lmao

RT is russian propaganda and major russian cope lol

Funny boomers take everything they say online for heart. They've been saying Ukraine has lost more than a million and is close to losing for 2 years now... lol

We still have a long way to go to reach the western capabilities in this field.

and all damages can be replenished in a month, maybe faster.

cOpium off the charts today.

maybe those trucks with drones are in america too holding us hostage...

And always forgotten part

but in America they lynch negroes

Lying and saving face is part of the culture.
Notice how many Indians on twitter are seething about this kek.

losing our strategic bomber fleet nothing to worry about, says military who just lost strategic bomber fleet

this freed up valuable aircraft and airbase personnel to go to the front line and meatwave on aliexpress scooters

If I set your car on fire, does it mean I've destroyed it?

usually, yeah. fire fucks a car pretty good.

explain how the loss of this ship helps Ukraine to win the war. Its annoying to the Russians sure, it costs money and looks bad but what does it do for Ukraine on the ground ?

Check our profits in international trade. Can you even do that though? The sites might be blocked in your country.

This is heavy copium

Cope takes aside, why would it change the course of war? The only thing that this changes for Russia is that it has fewer platforms to launch cruise missiles from, and that was never a decisive factor.

this

They did that again? Lmao.

It's a missile cruiser, it launch(ed)es missiles into the Ukraine ToO.
Cope.

Missiles could have been launched from that ship you dumb fuck.

RT

Did you take your vaxx like a good boy?

It wasnt just one airfield.

Check our propaganda Russtat-istics

Absolutely fucking kekworthy.

1. Russians can't speak Ukrainian properly. Ukrainians, on the hand, can speak Russian fluently, without the risk of being compromised.
2. All the money that should have gone to maintain the Russian agent network was spent on drugs and prostitutes. Check Medvedchuk.

a month

Russia relies on those planes to air launch cruise missiles, which have repeatedly been used to strike Ukraine.
With that in mind, this is a very logical and defensive attack with an immediate result in the reduction of Russia's capability to strike Ukraine. The economic and morale impacts are secondary.

Also, FPV drones aren't wunderwaffen, they just used them in a very clever way.

That was just another PR stunt. ukraine (not a real country) always aimed at that to ask for more gibs from the west. Funny thing it wont work this time.

it was hilarious they were able to pull it off, but was russia even able to use those bombers in the war without getting shot down?

They were using them all the time.

Russia went from blockading Ukrainian ports to having their ports blockaded

what effect this has on war?!

Well Ukraine symbolically blew up Russian aircraft, kek.
They left the treaty and you're a coping faggot seething when you could have instead stayed within the treaty guidelines and maybe had a point. You are no longer part of START, you therefore have no right to cry and shit your pants.

Oh well!

Ah yes I forgot

Okay we lied or did something but THE WEST is doing it even more

The quintessence of Russian cope to never confront their wrongdoings

I'm shure there are sites that track this internationally. Go on, check them. I dare you.
Yeah, I'm thinking half of that in reality.

I am not allowed to read RT.
EU thinks I cant think for myself. I have no say in it either.

again

When don't they threaten?

how do you know this? That's an interesting concept considering the Russians were reported to have done similar things to the us while in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Its so retarded that this "save face" brow people culture is so common now.
Who cares about truth

"analysis"? did they literally let a 5 year old write this garbage?

I'm not surprised germans dont care about that anymore.

If those planes were so vital, is there a reason they're thousands of miles from the battlefield?
Is Russia even taking this war seriously?

Russia uses them to air-launch cruise missiles to strike targets deep inside Ukraine without actually flying the planes into contested airspace. It's one of the largest advantages in strike capability that Russia has over Ukraine.

The US still flies B-52's for the same reason.

Of couse we take it seriously. We just dont want to use more than absolutely necessary.

I always wondered why high voltage power lines aren't attacked. They go through hundreds of kilometres of remote land, impossible to defend. Destroy enough in one moment and the entire powergrid is going to collapse.

Better to attack transformer stations

easy to repair within a few hours

A month? don't be so humble. Ivan. I'm sure you'll get those bad boys flying again in just two weeks.

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HISTORY DIDN'T BEGIN IN 1935
THE WORLD DIDN'T SPAWN INTO EXISTENCE WHEN HITLER AND STALIN HAD GAY FAGGOT SEX
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GREAT PATRIOTIC WAR HOW ABOUT THE GREAT PATRIOTIC LEND LEASE YOU USELESS NIGGERS

HOLY SHIT I AM GOING TO GO INSANE IF I HAVE TO HEAR THE WORD NAZI ONE MORE FUCKING TIME IT WAS SEVENTY YEARS AGO
FUCKING
STOP

oh, so nothing is gonna happen today? fuck slavs and their gay as shit wars, literally faggots I swear ISIS with minimum shit they were making quality shit worth watching, nuke all slavs right now

That's in principle harder to do, they can be hid in concrete. Might be impenetrable to drones.

few hours of grid collapse

that's billions of dollars in costs.
The attack be repeated and repeated, all you need are drones in a remote area and cut enough different lines at once to collapse the system.

Humility is a virtue.

Nothing better than seeing Russian cope in the morning. Lying niggers of the east.

mix of faggotism and low IQ subhumansism, you guys should join and spice things up

0/10
stop posting tranny, its embarrassing

that's billions of dollars in costs

I have no idea what are you smoking to get to that conclusion. A drone costs a few thousand dollars, a spool of wire - a dozen bucks at most.

They're designed to fly long distances and parking them far from the front when not in immediate use makes them harder to destroy. Significant planning occurs before they fly, which gives them plenty of time to relocate as necessary.
Also, Ukraine struck multiple airfields, some closer than others.

The cost is from all areas that lost power.
The system can most likely survive one or two power lines going down, but destroy enough at once and it collapses because existing lines don't have enough capacity.

rt

ANALysis

-.-

I don't get why the media is cumming so hard over the loss of a few planes that weren't even being used in the SMO while the blowing up of the rail bridges is actually going to cause russia significant problems. That's the real newsworthy issue.

Your flag looks like it fits right in with the other faggot ones. Is it for vatnitggerism?

Realistically, they aren't wrong. The planes that got wrecked are ancient and obsolete bombers. Some were likely still used to fire missiles into Ukraine, but other than that they didn't serve any practical purpose. I get the WW2 era obsession with bombers, fighters, jets and planes in general, but realistically it's all about locking on from a safe distance and firing onto the target. Dogfights, escort missions, bombing runs with literal dumb munitions like carpet bombing, etc... those are only viable against an enemy that cannot fire back.

Still very demoralizing nonetheless. Likely will amount to considerable political pressure as well. But this doesn't change the situation on the ground. Unfortunately this means that literally nothing changes and that means that nothing ever happens and that means that 2 more weeks...

Since Russia doesn't have a first strike or preemptive nuclear doctrine, it also cannot really escalate. Expect a retaliatory missile strike on relevant military targets soon, and that's all. Today's peace talks will end the same as last time. Literally nothing's happening.

125 replies and nobody mentioned the obvious.

Ever seen an old classic movie when an elder shakes their fist at the children and say

Oh you!

That's what's happening here and nothing will happen

Year and a half of planning lol, lmao.

If that is true, then Trump knew about it and approved.
Trump lied about wanting peace in the Ukraine.

Its very easy to fix them, and once one drone hits - the element of surprise is gone. You will need to hit all of them at once to get any meaningful result. And guess what? Having a cloud of drones is not exactly unnoticeable, and not as fast as just hitting them with arty and whatelse.

weren't even being used in the SMO

What do you think is launching the cruise missiles?

Lmao, hohols seething rn

The planes that got wrecked are ancient and obsolete bombers

Russia has nothing to replace them with, why are you coping?

do the same thing inside Ukraine?

And what can be targeted, actually? Ukraine has no strategic weapons at all, no ICBMs or strategic bombers. Moreover, Ukraine's territory is fully accessible with missiles. There's just no need to do carefully planned operations if you can just blow shit with missiles.

As much as I detest ukraine, russia's stalin fetish is pathetic.

The planes at the forward airbases. Bears thousands of km inside russia aren't participating in the war.

RT

My dude, those are soviet era bombers. Do you have anything to replace your tanks from WW2?

Don't be a dork. Everyone admits there were strikes and there were loses. As for the number of losses, it was and still partly is unclear.

It's absolutely okay not to trust cockhole bragging about 40+ aircrafts and use only trusted information, dork.

The western world has been bombarded with anti Russian properganda for five years.

no. 100 years. it never stopped.

It's not easy to restart the grid at all. The process takes hours at best, days at worst. Spain and Portugal are a recent example. Imagine that happening every 3 days for weeks. It's total economic collapse.

The funny thing about high voltage power lines is that you can use to charge them to charge drones via induction. So you could hide hundreds of drones in a forest and continue doing attacks at random locations for a very long time.

This is one of those things, like the truck drone attack, that just didn't happen yet. They will happen eventually.

There are only two defenses. One is to put power long distance high voltage lines undeground (very expensive). I don't think any country does that for intercity transmission. The second is to have a renewable-based system that's sufficiently decentralized to make such an attack less damaging, but that doesn't describe any country right now, least of all Russia.

Why hasn't peace been achieved?

There is another reason. It is not profitable for Russia to make a deal as long as it successfully uses its offensive potential and does not incur too many losses. Singing the deal before the exhaustion of that potential just means a weaker negotiating position.

The planes that got wrecked are ancient and obsolete bombers.

As opposed to all of the non-ancient aircraft russia has? I like that the same exact kind of cope emerges every single time russia loses equipment: "These were just the soviet-era tanks, there are secret bunkers full of brand new tanks that that russia isn't using because they don't want to win too quickly".

There's just no need to do carefully planned operations if you can just blow shit with missiles.

How's that been working out so far?

the grid

Werent you talking about just hitting the lines though? As I said, drones are way too noticeable and slow to do any meaningful attacks on strategic assets. And do you really believe important things like that are left undefended?

QUESS WHO IS SHITTING HIMSELF RIGHT NOW!!

Germany's defence chief has starkly warned that NATO should be prepared for a possible attack by Russia in the next four years.

General Carsten Breuer said Russia poses a 'very serious threat' to the Western defence bloc, the likes of which he has never seen in his 40-year military career.'

The warning comes amid one of Ukraine's most audacious attacks, in which it used a swarm of kamikaze drones unleashed from the backs of trucks to devastate $7billion worth of equipment at two of Russia's most critical airfields.

Ukraine's security service, the SBU, claimed to have destroyed '34% of strategic cruise missile carriers at the main airfields of the Russian Federation'.

President Volodymyr Zelensky described the attack as one for the 'history books', revealing it took 18 months to plan the top-secret mission dubbed 'Operation Spiderweb'.

How's that been working out so far?

Pretty good for us. Not so good for ukraine (not a real country)

And what can be targeted, actually?

uh... everything? anything that you'd want to blow up in Ukraine? just pay hohols money to blow up their own stuff, probably cheaper than using fancy missiles and drones.
probably would be particularly effective at blowing up TCC agents and offices because hohols already hate them

It's a fact that they have tons of the stuff lying around. The same was true for ukraine. Which is probably why they were chosen. The soviet union had prepared itself to be able to win WW3 conventionally.

18 months to delete 4 soviet-era bombers

Good question.

RT analysis

It's his job to say that. They have to somehow justify the fact that the next generations will have to pay off the debt they have just taken on.

Those ships were antiques dating back to the 80's and even 70's kek

Singing the deal before the exhaustion of that potential

Do ziggers brains work? If you exhaust your offensive potential why would anyone want to sign peace deal?

x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1929448306964316405

Russian investigators have questioned the drivers of the trucks from which drones were launched during a large-scale attack on military targets. From Russian media:

“One of the drivers, a 55-year-old man from Chelyabinsk named Alexander Z., said that the truck belonged to a 37-year-old man named Artyom. Some time ago, Artyom had received an order from a businessman based in the Murmansk region, who requested the transportation of four prefabricated houses from Chelyabinsk to the Kola District of Murmansk.

The two men agreed on a price, and Alexander loaded the "cargo" into the truck and set off. According to him, while en route, an unknown individual contacted him by phone and gave specific instructions on when and where to stop. The final stop was near a Rosneft gas station close to a military airfield in Murmansk. It was from that location that the drones were launched.

A similar story was shared by another truck driver, 61-year-old Andrey M., who said he also worked for Artyom. His task was to transport prefabricated houses to the Irkutsk region. However, when he parked near the "Teremok" café in Usolye-Sibirskoye, drones began to take off from the back of his truck.

Other truck drivers involved in incidents in the Ryazan and Ivanovo regions reported similar experiences. One of them, a 46-year-old man named Sergey, told investigators he was transporting a modular house from Chelyabinsk. While driving through Ryazan, the roof of his Scania truck suddenly tore off, and drones flew out.

The fourth truck, involved in the drone launch targeting the Ivanovo airfield the day before, was also loaded in Chelyabinsk. According to the driver, this truck also belonged to Artyom.

A criminal case has been opened under terrorism-related charges. Investigators are currently searching for Artyom, who is reportedly a native of Ukraine.”

I don't understand you babbling nonsense. Have you tried not posting your nigger thoughts?

Russia left START two years ago.

No you dont get it these bombers are old we didnt need them they were about to be replaced. No other military uses decade old bombers you see. Also there were only 4 destroyed okay now stop looking at satellite images. Also they will all be repaired in no time and we didnt need any bombers for Ukraine anyway.

Pathetic cope.
Replacing those 40 strategic bomber aircraft will take decades.
Russia probably doesn't even have the means to build them under sanctions.

keep pagers
me and drone swarm attacks from the back of trucks are now best friends

Anon, were you ever outside of a city? There are giant overair high voltage lines that span for hundreds of kilometres. There's no possible way to defend them.
When there are sudden power shortages in the system, what happens is that frequency suddenly drops. This in turn causes a combination of voltage and frequency drops after being converted. Machines physically stop working, many can get damaged. To prevent this, the systems detect power drop below acceptable parameters and cut the connections locally. That's called a grid collapse.

As long as this happens to just one city, there's still a grid outside of it. But cutting out eg. 10 power plants all at once, in strategic locations, would collapse the entire system as there's no way to isolate failures while retaining interconnectivity between functioning parts.

Sandnigger terrorist attack-tier

5 different airfields you absolute nigger.

russian propaganda outlet states that massive plane losses are of no significance

Lmao at rusnigger copes

NAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAZI

kek
why are you so butthurt, couldn't even place you on a map

While we've only seen footage of 4 tu-95 burning, the number of planes hit at the other base and overall number of destroyed vs damaged is unknown.
While it's true that new tu-95 aren't being manufactured, over 500 were built and "new" modernized tu-95s from the soviet stockpile are still entering service. about 10 have entered service in the last 5 years.

About nine totaled so far, it does make the Russkies more alert so it's kind of a worse than pyrrhic win to NATO. London and MI6niggers of course just want as much death and destruction as possible so they feel as giddy as jews torturing children to death.

it was just 4 Soviet-era bombers, bro!

lmao, even. Cope harder, Igor.

Shitskin like you would know about sand niggers. This was a strike on military equipment not civilians.

Do you have anything to replace your tanks from WW2?

Yes, Leopard 2 and Abrams. So once again, what are you going to replace those bombers with?

Replace them with what? I already told you that they're more or less obsolete. Some might've been used for firing air to ground missiles into Ukraine but other than that they didn't serve any other purpose. When do you see videos of these planes ever used? You don't because they aren't, not frequently in any case. Missiles are fucking expensive. All this will do is incentivize the production of drones or drone missile platforms and more ground to ground missiles instead of air to ground. That's all. They won't get replaced. They'll tear them down and cannibalize whatever parts are still useful to maintain whatever remains but other than that these aren't necessary or relevant, not even as nuclear deployment systems.

cope

Okay, go on and tell me what changed now. Is the war ending today? Are the Russians going to give up and accept a ceasefire or will their demands remain the exact same? It's another 2 more weeks scenario. You've been awed by the attack and the explosions and convinced that this is a big deal. You technically aren't wrong. It's a demoralizing blow with serious political and security implications, but strategically it does fuck all. The daily advancements will remain the same. Peace talks won't go anywhere. Bombings will continue on both sides. It's another case of 2 weeks. Nothing ever happens. Go on, prove me wrong.

No, its just nafo people making shit up, again.

there was an attack on civilian infrastructure as well

You need more than one drone to take one of these out. Too fucking expensive.

Different branches?
Isn't each branch headquartered inside each country? So local people are hired.

Sandnigger terrorist attack-tier

There is only one way to fight partisans. You have to go after their families, then it will stop quickly. But the Russians are determined to play by rules that the other side has never followed.

retarded nonsense from start to end
these bombers are high value irreplaceable assets that Russia has put high importance on in their nuclear triad of subs, missiles and air.

cope harder

fun fact: they wasted more money on this "operation" than just pay Russians the scrapping off. Also killing Civilians by bombing civil trains is utter retard move. now Russians will run out of POWs.

Some might've been used for firing air to ground missiles into Ukraine but other than that they didn't serve any other purpose

they might have been used as main way to launch cruise missiles at Ukraine but otherwise not used

Ziggerbross...are we retarded?

You just need one drone with a wire cutting apparatus.

Quite expected. As I think, Europeans are now searching for excuses to tighten the screws and cope with their crisis, so they will exaggerate the threat.

Don't be such a dork. Exhausting the potential allocated to the conflict doesn't mean you have no potential at all. Just that it becomes unprofitable for you to advance further.

first flown in 1952

Holy shit you are retarded.
With the modern stuff obviously. Or do you want me to give you actual names, mister MI9?

Go find them they exist I swear

Kek

All this will do is incentivize the production of drones or drone missile platforms and more ground to ground missiles instead of air to ground.

Russians heavily invested into ballistic missile production like iskander and oreshnik.Most of their strategic campaign now is drones+ballistics without much use of strategic bombers with cruise missiles.
Stat bomber+Cruise missile is not a very efficient.Nato can spot the strat bomber and warn ukraine and cruise missiles are easy to shoot down compared to ballistics.
So yeah,4-8 old bombers is not a big loss.

So you agree they cant even bring the voltage tower down.

Nice VPN you fucking peasant.

Afraid of being wrong?

Putins objectives are strategic, he doesn't really want "land" he wants the trade route. As far as NATO is concerned the trade route didn't belong to Ukraine and isn't Ukraine's to give.

So for Ukraine, the most likely path to peace is just Russia and NATO fighting in Belarus instead. The Ukrainians have zero power in this, they aren't even sitting at the table. This is the spheres of influence deal all over again, and for about the hundredth time

With the modern stuff obviously

yeah, name it

They can, but the goal is to cut the connection, not physical damage at one point.

actually no. it works very well with splitter bombs directed at the bottom, to the feet of those. Russians do it whole time BTW. This why NATO bought out all power-generators around the world to power the communication and local defense grids. personally every piga has own generator now.

They aren't irreplaceable. There's a factory somewhere refurbishing and modernizing airframes from the soviet stockpile. Out of the 500+ originally built they probably still have 100 or more waiting to re-enter service.

Not unlikely. Rather, just won't. Because these assets aren't used to persecute war in Ukraine.

bro
these planes have 30-40 years under their belt, have been constantly re-fitted, have value in the high millions
they are perfectly good planes, robust as fuck and can keep going for decades

you are not as clever as you think you are

They are. FOBs are attacked more frequently because Ukraine can reach them, they only use them for smaller plane launches not for repairs or storage due to higher turn around times meaning less risk.
The base near Finland has been bombing Ukraine for 3 years.
Cope.

Do my arguing for me

Show me nigger.

As if efficiency were relevant in the west. It's all about appearances, so that the money can keep flowing and nobody calls the bluff.

Shure thing mister MI9, let me just whip out the secret PDF I have just for this occasion.
Why arent they doing it then? If its so easy.

Its the factory to update the a-50's
1 factory
It would take 2-3 years to even dust of all the old jigs, presses etc (if they still exist) needed to start building airframes.
Their day is over, its never going to happen

Do your own job, faggot.

Pol is mostly Western media lies, today you get Russian media lies.

Were not owned I swear were not owned STOP LAUGHING!

have value in the high millions

130 000 Dollars. Mentioned in the report of Russian defense industry in 2017. They kept them because the had to save money for other shit. There was only one repair line for those planes in whole Russia. They were discussing to make an replacement or just restart the production line.

QUESS WHAT SHLOMO!!

After the shit with Rostov Russians just build a fucking factory somewhere in Russian Far East to build the replacement for those planes.

memeflag

oh I am laughing alright

Why arent they doing it then?

they are doing it. are you fucking retarded? google Attack on the Power Grid in the Ukrain.

Completely wrong about everything but that doesn't surprise me because you're a brainwashed Brit. Well, technically unlikely a Brit. Probably an Indian or Paki. Those bombers were overhyped and romanticized as most planes tend to be, and realistically irrelevant in a nuclear exchange considering their number and the max payload they can carry. And aside from that, their sole purpose was to fire air to ground missiles into Ukraine, but MiG bombers can be used better than those Tu relics.

Air to ground.
Ground to ground.
Sea to ground.

If one or two become less desirable, the third one will get preferential treatment and increased production. This literally changes nothing, but okay 2 more weeks bro. Trust the plan.

Even if they lost all of them it wouldn't be a big loss, strategically speaking. The biggest deal is the PR & political blow because these strikes happened so deep inside Russia, making them feel less safe or even appear as if they're losing. It's highly demoralizing. But in terms of efficacy, quite irrelevant. It's literally all missile and drone warfare now. What people don't understand is that the only thing that matters is delivering ordnance to the designated target. Some delivery systems are better than others. Drones weren't really used at the beginning and things changed so much that now they're everywhere and tanks and helicopters are practically gone. If expensive planes are VIP targets so much so that it disincentivizes the production of air to ground missiles due to the potential risk and cost of losing such assets, they'll ramp up the production of ground to ground or sea to ground missiles instead. It just makes sense to adapt like this.

let me just whip out the secret PDF

Russia has secret modern bombers, hidden under pile of Apmatas

STOP LAUGHING, IT"S REAL

30 posts by this id

sounds like you're seething KEK

Their price isn't in the high millions you absolute dullard. Russias MIC is still state owned as it was during the Soviet Union. They don't have Lockheed Martin taking 90% as a profit margin.

Who said anything about the bombers? I didnt say anything about the bombers.

Replacing those 40 strategic bomber aircraft will take decades.

how do you know what russia can or cant produce many years in the future

you are just as retarded as the other guy
the value is in their service and how much its takes to replace them

they have been constantly retro fitted with new systems over the years, they are an integral part of Russia's long range nuclear doctrine

But I am laughing! And the pig is dancing! Dancing!!!

A war it already lost

Ziggers, you are being droned in fucking Siberia. If that's called winning then having your whole family raped and killed is also winning, amirite?

how much will it cost to replace them genius

get back to me with todays prices and delay costs

Who said anything about building new airframes? I said they're refurbishing existing ones. Apparently in the 2 years between 2019-2021 14 refurbished tu-95 entered service.

Both sides have the capacity to deep strike each other with cruise missiles, but you may note that putin isn't hitting Germany or Poland in retaliation.

And the reason Germany is essentially restoring to open war with Russia is that Germany is loosing in Ukraine and running out of money. Russia doesn't want open war, because they've already got what they want.

they have been constantly retro fitted with new systems over the years, they are an integral part of Russia's long range nuclear doctrine

How come you know about that?

Okay, go on and tell me what changed now. Is the war ending today? Are the Russians going to give up and accept a ceasefire or will their demands remain the exact same? It's another 2 more weeks scenario. You've been awed by the attack and the explosions and convinced that this is a big deal. You technically aren't wrong. It's a demoralizing blow with serious political and security implications, but strategically it does fuck all. The daily advancements will remain the same. Peace talks won't go anywhere. Bombings will continue on both sides. It's another case of 2 weeks. Nothing ever happens. Go on, prove me wrong.

exactly...it will be an own for some days and some memes will be made but the war will go on and the course wont change a bit. It will make the russians even more determined to end project ukraine once and for all

the value

130 000 dollars. Russians complained that new engine costs more than 3 planes..

RT

analysis

lel

kek
thats the retro fitting program, they have been updating the internals to bring them up to date, its pretty much continuous, they dont have any new planes

Its public information.
Russia literally publishes its doctrine, you know this, right?

And the reason Germany is essentially restoring to open war with Russia is

that they are an occupied country that does what its occupiers order.

I don't know. Why would they want to replace them, first of all? I'm sure they can use Tu-160 in the role of spooking Americans over the sea.

No fucking clue. Where do you get this "public information"?

youtu.be/rIRYHLM__-U

HAHAHA!! SEETHE JAJALALAPUTRAH!! SEETHE!!

That's uh.. not the question.

mid.ru/en/foreign_policy/international_safety/1434131/

You're the lowest form of military intelligent life

how much will it cost to replace them genius

if they are going to replace them and not going for the drone tech path. If they will replace them it will cost them depending how much have been destroyed but it wont break Russia. Production capacity is not static. In a war economy things go faster if one has the right ideology and competent people, resources.
But besides the lols what will it change to the better for Ukraine ? Nothing.

Can't say what will happen in terms of morale or in the political sphere, I'm just trying to assess the situation as objectively as possible. The west loves optics and possibly believe now that they have an edge, that maybe they struck fear into the Ruskis, and hopefully they won't be too upset that today's meme peace talks will end the same as last time, with both sides refusing to budge. Trump's later likely going to post some more veiled threats or other nonsense and that will be that. Meanwhile, the soldiers on the front on both sides continue doing their thing.

I agree with that, in fact I think Ukraine is going to regret this more from a loss of allies than anything else.

A drop in a bucket

Maaaaan, you're gonna get so partishioned...

they dont have any new planes

How many times are you going to repeat what everyone is already saying? Despite not manufacturing new airframes, the losses from yesterday will be replaced and the in the near future the number of operational tu-95 is likely to increase from what it was

They can't build a new factory, that would require new machinery and machine parts which can only be bought from Europe and are under sanctions. Same goes for artillery hence why they had to buy hardly working artillery from the norks. It's also why they couldn't even defend Syria anymore and lost it, they are running out of air force they can't replace. China can't into advanced CNC machinery either so don't expect them to get it from them.

Even if they lost all of them it wouldn't be a big loss, strategically speaking.

I mean we are not there yet, they still need them but their relevance is rapidly declining.Look at Europe and how insignificant they are because they lack strategic assets like a strat bomber.
Eventually these large strat bombers are going to end up like the close attack aircraft(at least for Russia, the US will still need them to bomb fremen for israel).Its nice to have but there are far better options.
I saw footage of Russian ballistic fuel factory expansions from 2023-24.They expanded their factories by 2x-4x.That is clearly the route that Russia is going down and it is a superior path.
With the upgraded 1000km iskander or the oreshnik they can do the same thing that a strat bomb carrier is capable of but much better and much faster.

But that is precisely the question. The pentagon has had control over everything that happens from the very beginning and has never relinquished it. I don't know why putin is falling for their games again. He should have had enough dealings with jews to know that their rifts are just for show.

Ziggers believes attrition warfare and prolonging the war as long as possible is a good thing

Well, it worked, did it not?
And more than once.

fun fact: 95% of bombing in jewkrain is done by front bombers. strategic aviation is left out of it.

on other side Lindsey Graham is going to loose a lot of relatives in his family now. why? just because..

If they need these planes they will be produced and it will cost them but thats about it.
If i would make bets who can produce more and produce faster in terms of strategic bombers its Russia. The west isnt able to produce or change course into a war economy. Thats why Ukraine is loosing.

you're from switzerland why are you discussing wars

I'm not even IN the military, kek.

They can't build a new factory, that would require new machinery and machine parts which can only be bought from Europe and are under sanctions.

that is speculation, they are doing fine , they have china. For what would they need the
west ? I read the same for 3 years now about missles and tanks and how they are for sure running out of them because sanctions.

They can't build a new factory,

nigga they build 8 airplane factories in last 3 years. They restarted their civil plane industry.

works every time

It's bad though, says German (brown)

No wonder Germans lost WWII.

Those bombers didn't really participate in the war, now did they?
Ukies accomplished nothing really. It will not slow down the rusian advance. If anything, it will have the opposite effect and russian attacks will itensify.

Just wait untill supposed russian terrorists cause a mass casualty event in (your) country and the war in le ukraine suddenly becomes a matter of (your) national security.

it is hilarious that retards still thinking EU still produces machines, which cant be produced anywhere else..

lol rekt

maybe they will just abandon the concept of strategic bombes because its not worth it to rebuild them. who knows.
missles can do the job just fine, submarines can launch nukes just fine. Its questionable if they are of any use today. Why not use drones instead ?

A reduction in the sales market is never good. China pays very poorly and India has nothing to offer in terms of payment. Russia would be ready to supply gas to Germany again in a heartbeat, you can be sure of that.

how many of those factories are building shaheds?

Pure cope, Russia got their shit slapped.

They don't need to replace them. What's important is to assess the most reliable, cost efficient, and destructive weapon, and mass produce it. If the platform to fire this weapon is destroyed, few in number, unreliable, or too risky to use due to its cost, then the weapon isn't worth it. Drone missile systems are likely going to be the real replacement for strategic bombers, other than that cheap ground based systems for ground to ground missiles.

It's all about finding the best delivery system for the best and most destructive weapon that's also relatively cheap and quick to produce. If that ain't gonna be some fancy plane, then it's gonna be something else. Hardy ground based systems are the best IMO. They're far cheaper, can be literally manhandled unlike delicate airplanes, and can be hidden or stored just about anywhere. Just as with drones, this attack might be a turning point in Russian weapon manufacturing, that will further pivot away from air to ground based systems.

maybe they will just abandon the concept of strategic bombes

no. but they are moving to ai bombers now. even during the drone war you still need good old carpet bombing on Lviv.

Ukraine turns to spectacle as a last resort

Didn't this fags produce a fucking trailer for a counteroffensive pretty early on, not to mention the entire force of the globohomo propaganda machine behind it all from the start, like that ghost of keef nonsense?

I don't think russia or the US will abandon strategic bombers. It turned out badly the last time they did it. A missile can't cruise around for hours fucking with people

There is no relevant substitute for the european mechanical engineering industry.

that's called winning

A russian thing

official propaganda say they've already won the war they've been fighting fruitlessly for over 3 years

yeah its fucking over for ukraine

Based.

turns to spectacle

we didn't need our fleet, this is land war

we didn't need our airforce, this is land war!!!!

Destroys entire Russian black sea fleet

....

The black sea fleet is still there

The ''40'' destroyed strat bombers are going to be the same story.
In a few days or weeks they are going to kwetch again that Russians are bombing them with strat bombers.

The black sea fleet is still there

where?

In the black sea you dummy.

40 planes

18 months of prep

Yeah. 2 planes / month isn't changing anything.
You might see some less FABs over the next few months. You'll see more drones instead

fleet

As of 06:00 AM Kyiv time on June 2, 2025, two Russian ships armed with Kalibr cruise missiles are present in the Black Sea.

They can launch up to 12 missiles simultaneously, which significantly increases the threat of missile strikes on Ukrainian positions.

RT is Kremlin propaganda

Losing Tu-22's is a big deal because they are still integral to Russian long range missile capabilities, and it doesn't really appear that they can build any more of them(maybe they can refurbish some that are in a boneyard somewhere). Anyone that is downplaying the loss of important strategic assets is just a shill, and you shouldn't waste time arguing with them.

ships

boats. those are boats.

Basically the entire answer to the how and why of the matter.

Strategically gather intel to see if deep strike attacks can be made with drones in a coordinated method. This tests 5 column attacks both against US/EU targets and against Russian/China targets for future attacks.

Ukraine gets paid for every munition delivered for the maximum amount of damage. In turn we get to target high valued threats to our military objectives in lieu of a future invasion or occupation if the entire country of russia goes tits up. Strategic bombers, AAA/AA and factories are major threats in a protracted war.

Tactical warfare this benefits Ukraine minorly but is not as important as the supply lines the russian's have that are considered uncontested. Realistically these supplies given to them in the meantime should counter the cost and time spent on these strategic targets.

Ukraine is US proxy. No why would Ukros bomb Russian early warning systems and then nuclear capabilities? US wants a real nuclear war because they think they can win. Fucking retards.

This support your argument how?

Contrary to popular belief, nuclear wars are winnable.

RT analysis: drone attack just for show, won't change course of war

of course it has zero impact on the Ukraine-Russia land war, but it has a big impact in the US-Russia proxy war which is what's really this about

the US can openly bomb Russia nuclear assets until they are too weak, then win on a nuclear first-strike extrange, wa-lah

Tactical defeat lel

4 old strategic bombers aren't going to make or break Russia's nuclear deterrence lmao.

Russia will replace those planes in less then a year though. Soviet era bombers aren't really going to be used against the US in a war anyway.

And besides the three that got damaged it still will be

the ww2 to them is like the marvel shit to the west

This is just like when Darth Hitler tried to steal the oil stones from Stalinwarts!

it looks just as cringe especially since we all know now the good goys lost

What do you mean three you lying NAFO FAGGOT? Russia didn’t lose single Tu-95, all evidence are optical illusions

All Russia and Ukraine shills aside, why would you do an attack like this when peace negotiations were very close to be completed?
Does Ukraine (cough, NATO) even want peace?

why would you do an attack like this when peace negotiations were very close

Why not? Russia didn’t stop attacking for single day

it probably won't make a difference but also russia can't ignore the threat and will have to spend a non-zero amount of resources dealing with it

They can cope all they want. Regardless of who is behind it, it is outrageous for a base bordering Mongolia to get bombed.

they did so symbolically and said they will still follow it as long as the US does.

One question: why were there tires on the wings?

Makes more sense to have all of the cards. Same shit happens in every war. Up until the last day that peace is announced is when the fighting is worse. There is no other method to do so.

Russia will replace those planes in less then a year though.

unlikely, the russians are good at other things, but suck at building a lot of planes

nuclear wars are winnable.

no.

if you destroy 100% of the other country, and you only get destroyed your top 20% of cities (full of pakis) you win

Sinking an active military vessel was a PR stunt? lol

mig 21 disagrees

mig 21

those aren't even in production, and are only in service in India and Syria (kek) as far as i know. both america and the ussr produced a lot of stuff in the 70s, but we live in a different world now

Hot dang, that reminds me of the time we had to liberate Paris. We should make another movie about that, someone get Mel Gibson on the phone, tell him to hire Tom Hanks as a gruff but lovable Sergeant, played across from Ryan Gosling. Put a musical moment in the middle when Ryan falls in love in Paris. What we'll do, is have Hanks hunting Gosling's unit, but this time Hanks is an MP looking for a rogue infantry unit that is ignoring orders and eating local ice cream without permission. As it turns out, Gosling was wrongly arrested by Hanks in New Jersey before the war, and was sent to work in a US Navy yard before he was set free and stole the plates from a bunch of Monks to pay for gas to get to California, in the end, Hanks will run into German fire after singing about the horrors of being a cop and then MP having to chase down the innocent poor ...