National Socialist Germany Was A Christian Nation

why did the allies make propaganda depicting the nazis as being hostile to christians then?

y helo, every1

Ah yes, the fervent Christian stance of not preferring any particular denomination and telling them to stay out of politics. Most of the Christian Nationalists I know also don't have any strong feelings on Orthodox/Catholic/Protestant and think religion shouldn't have anything to do with politics. Basically any passionate Christian would have this limp stance on doctrine, of course.

weimer republic was too, what's your point?

so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the customs and morality of the German Volk

as long as they did not threaten civil order or national security, or advance beliefs and causes that violated historic German ethics and morals.

i do wonder why he chose to clarify that part. german values aren't christian? were christians a threat to german values? are they not one in the same, or do they perhaps conflict? interdasting...

in your own quote, he's basically saying (nicely):

yeah, you retards can practice your christcuckery, we won't outlaw it, we won't endorse it either. but if you fucking jew-worshippers start causing problems, you're done.

way to play yourself. op. nobody seriously believes the nazis were a theological party.

The same reason they made propaganda about the gassing six million jews, wanting to kill everyone that didn't have blond hair and blue eyes, and wanting to take over the world.

It was not

Based thread and chekkd

Much Christian.

Wow.

So fucking christian bros

The Pope

Here's what they had to say about it

National Socialist Germany Was A Christian Nation

They lost. Therefore, Christianity is for losers. The end.

tbf the pope after his guy died was based

Pathetic kike thread. Remember to sage if you do say anything, otherwise just ignore the Christ-peddling kikes ITT and let it slide.

80% of Germany was Christian retard, he couldn't express his genuine feelings on it and keep power, let alone spread it. 'Positive Christianity' was a late-game way to try and show krauts they could keep their white morals and values, WITHOUT a circumcised man who was called 'rabbi' 16 fucking times in the New Testament.

Gnosticism is just a watered down version of the true beliefs of the jewish cult. They believe they are descended from Satan. This is where Lilith comes in. She's supposedly Adam's first wife (this is designed to make you doubt the Word of God) who left Adam for Satan because muh White Man bad (worse than the Devil even, and btw I guess that means the Devil isn't so bad after all!)

So, Lilith and Satan lay with each other and she gives birth to all the demo. Next, they believe that when Satan tempted Eve to eat the Apple from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil that it's actually a metaphor for sex, and that it means Eve and Satan had sex. There is no explanation on why this is supposed to make sense but it's a story that jewish Grandmothers tell their grandchildren on a regular basis. (Working the cucking of White Men and whorish behavior of White Women into the creation myth.)

So, they believe that Cain wasn't actually Adam's son and that he was instead the child of Satan, which is why God favored Able over him (creating the myth of the persecuted jew) After Cain retaliates against able, he is cursed to wander the Earth for all eternity (the first Wandering jew) and this is where the Four jewish mothers come in.

For all who don't know there are supposedly four "jewish women" who all jews descend from and historically there has been an "antisemitic conspiracy theory" that jews believe themselves to be descended from four demon mothers. The women and they admit to being descended from and the demons just coincidentally have the same names.

Anyway, they believe that Cain bred with the four demons which created the Canaanites who founded Canaan and that they were the original jews who they are descended from and are in an everlasting blood war with us, the children of Adam and Eve.

They sanitize these beliefs as Kabbalah, Gnosticism, Satanism, Freemasonry, and even Mormonism to trick us and lead us astray.

National Socialist Germany practiced social Darwinism and only operated in support of Christianity (positive Christianity) to gain support of the Christian majority in the country. Many Christians were persecuted in Germany as the Nazis considered fascist truth superior to Christian truth - and spiritual value dependant on race.

Many writers who lived through these times such as Julius Evola remained critical of these faults, and Christians such as Ivan Alexandrovich Ilyin, who escaped the Soviet Union due to despising communism and later left Nazi Germany due to Christian persecution.

Remain skeptical of any man made ideology that promises utopia. They seek their truth actualized, not Gods truth.

This is how they can know about Revelation and the Second Coming of Christ but still cling to their worship of satan, because deep down they believe the Bible to be a lie and that satan is the true God who will save them and all of us "goyim" will either burn or be forced to serve them for eternity. When Judgement Day comes, Christ will return and they will be judged and their foolish and sinful nature's will be revealed to all.

Once you realize this integral truth to the jewish mindset all becomes clear: The logic of their actions, the motivations for their tactics, and the underlying and most prominent goal which is to do everything in their power to turn you away from Christ at every given opportunity because ultimately they serve satan and wish to damn The Lord's children to Hell and erroneous believe they are righteous in doing so.

Bumping a non shill thread. Feels good man

Oh there are plenty of shills here too.

y-yes he was a jew, but let me tell you a fake anecdote about how i convert so many hekkin' christians to natsoc

It's amusing watching kikes seethe and write pilpul novels

Christ is King

Hitler did nothing wrong

Disagree all you like, I don't even read your bullshit anymore lmao

tldr + doesnt matter

worldly nations rise and fall

the Kingdom of Heaven is forever

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The SS was Pagan, retard. If it was such a Christian nation, why would they allow Pagans in the SS?

The nazis were playing for the win.
They used marxist language to gain popularity. They allied with Japanese, arabs, indians. They fed some bones to the christians. They deliberately cultivated popular support among big industrialists with business and state ideology.
They were playing for the win. Of course they said some things for the christians, that's what you have to do to win. I don't believe they were christian though, they believed in metaphysics

Fuck whatever you think they believe or even what they think they believe, I don't care. There's one simple truth the Reich learned and it's that we're literally Sons of God, all of us, and if you access more of your brain we're capable of all kinds of shit. Each and every one of us must hang Yggdrasil like Odin.

"The only worldview not tolerated within the SS is atheism"

H. Himmler

Notice the graves are not marked with crosses

Ok. Are you going to tell me the Leibstandarte veteran was wrong? Was he misinformed? Do you know more about the SS than he did?

The bodyguard regiment of Adolf Hitler (1st SS Panzer Division Leibstandarte) doing a heathen solstice ritual in Berlin - Lichterfelde.

Preservation of the race is the goal. Christianity is neither the problem or the solution.

And yet he claimed they were pro-Christian, decades after the war was over. I think youre misinterpreting the traditions and ceremony for genuine belief. The Boy Scouts uses all sorts of Native American traditions and ceremonies and no one is saying their religion is the Great Sky Buffalo lmao.

Dutch SS newspaper describes St Paul and the "Messiah concept" as a plan for world domination.
Under the he𝗮dline "Jewish World Mission", it s𝗮ys:
"The Jew Paul was the first to realize the possibility of successfully proclaiming the Messiah-idea in the form of a new doctrine to this chaos. The bishop of Rome then combined this Messiah-idea with his desire for worldly power, whereby he surpassed all others in position; he appointed himself as the vicar of God.
The commandment speaking from the Messiah-idea grew and thus found a new form of its own. They always came into conflict with the "Imperial Order", whereby they could point out that the kings placed their task of creating a national unity at a disadvantage in fulfilling others which they derived from the foreign imperial idea, now completely leaving aside the extent to which this was already imbued with Germanic ideas.
But it was only when man as a free personality had found a free standpoint outside and against the universal, racially hostile "order" of the church, that is to say, only in the "Enlightenment" that the imperial idea as a Europe-encompassing idea found its end. It almost goes without saying that the last dynasty that stood up for it was a Catholic one. In doing so, it betrayed the national cause in favor of its own dynastic interests. But Habsburg overlooked the fact that circumstances had changed, that the striving for unity in the national sense had already made such progress that, politically speaking, this already exceeded the still merely external form of the the idea of empire had grown."
Source: Storm SS: Weekblad der germaansche-SS in Nederland (May 15, 1942), p.8-9 [Netherlands National Library]

Do you think it's a problem if the most religious people reproduce more every generation? Given that we know religiosity is a genetic trait?
Americans for example, are much more religious in nature than Europeans, and Americans are much more susceptible to mass media influences.

t-they were pro christian

Doubtful
SS booklet observes the strange alliance between Judaism and Christianity:
"Christianity has to bring together all people, whether they be Negroes or whites, into one great family of God. [...] This sets the tone for the unification of two international forces: Judaism and political Catholicism.
Zionist Jews agree with Pope that National Socialism was a scourge:
In December 1934, the Viennese Franciscan Father Zyrill Fifher gave a lecture in the ring of the Old Men's Associations of the Zionist Association in Vienna, in which he stated that National Socialism was not just a heresy, as the Pope said, but a whip and scourge used by the peoples themselves."
(Pg 26)
"A slogan spread by Solovyov in the guise of general literature is even more clear in a writing from Switzerland in which it says:
We must be one with the Jews without breaking away from Christianity... And the Jews must be one with us, not against Judaism, but in the name and in the power of true Judaism."
Cited: Schwarz, Dieter Angriff Auf Die Nationalsozialistische Weltanschauung (1936, 2)

Nationalist

Follow a foreign religion

Here, check it out anons. It's the Holy Grail, haha.
It's a Bon/Vajrayana tradition. You may be familiar with the idea of the Holy Grail being a human skull, that's because it is. Initiates into the Odinic mysteries drank from the skull. It all comes from the Annunaki, but the blood and flesh of masters is literally eaten in Vajrayana to gain their purity, and they offer their flesh and blood to their students in the Kapala. When you eat someone you "take in their frequency" as long as it's fresh, that's where it comes from.

The NSDAP P𝐚rty Progr𝐚m Was in F𝐚ct R𝐚ce First.
Many people cite the party program's 24th point relating to "Positive Christianity" as to mean the party is Christian itself, while conveniently leaving out the parts on race + religious freedom.
Positive Christianity in itself is a stance. A stance of religious freedom for the sake of common good at the expense of the individual. "We demand liberty for all religion’s denominations in the State, so far as they are not a danger to it and do not militate against the moral feelings of the GERMAN RACE. The Party, as such, stands for positive Christianity, but does not bind itself in the matter of creed to any particular confession. It combats the Jewish-materialist spirit within us and without us, and is convinced that our nation can only achieve permanent health from within on the principle: The Common Interest before Self."
The implications of this would mean that the race is more important than the religious denominations. So theoretically if any religion (Christianity included) were to in fact go against the moral feelings of the race, then the state would take measures to combat religious teachings in favor of racial teachings. Which is in fact what Hitler advocated for. Later on in 1943, the NSDAP publishing house then published "Das Parteiprogramm Wesen, Grundsaetze Und Ziele Der NSDAP" in which they explicitly stated the 24th point of the program (mentioned above) is in fact for the race above religion:

"What we call good is considered evil by others. What we call God appears to others as the devil. In terms of state policy, however, the first condition must be freedom of religious belief, if only from the point of view that the suppression of a politically neutral spiritual experience can, through oppression, become a politically oriented one. MORALITY IS ENTIRELY RACIALLY DETERMINED AND NOT ABSTRACTLY CATHOLIC, PROTESTANT, OR MUSLIM.
German custom is a Germanic attitude to life to which Christianity assimilated itself. It is therefore the duty of every German, and thus of the German state, to cultivate the customs and morality inherent in their race and, where these have been disregarded, to re-enforce them."
Thus, they didn't base their moral feeling on Christianity but primarily on the feelings of the racial soul of the people.

The White race doesn't need Christianity to survive. Some people are Christian some aren't. Don't lost any sleep over it.

That is a based and wise quote. Every race/nation has its own interpretation on Christianity that blossoms out of the genetic and cultural makeup of its people. Every religion, really.

Fuck off Jew worshipper
What will he save you from?

Hitler had an appreciation of the culture of White pagans because he thought they had a good work ethic and saw work as a beneficial and enjoyable part of life. Perhaps it was a folly of his which lead to his downfall much like Solomon from the Bible.

jew mad

All paganism are lies spread by satan.

All paganism are lies spread by satan.

esl

None of the top brass were Christians. They saw it as a good thing for the people to have faith but they all were more interested in Wotanism

The SS was the antithesis to the Werhmacht. The rivalry between the SS and Army was embedded into the lowest of echelons.
If the Army was motorized, the SS would be mechanized.

It looks like they're literally just standing around.

Hahahahhaha, my guy, this is the true church. We are the "satanic" agenda, I don't think you understand. The church isn't just irrelevant because it got shut wrong, it's going down because it stands in the way of enlightenment.

Just now realizing that Miura made the Brand of Sacrifice to resemble the Papal Seal, lol

pushing Jew worship

non shill thread

Huh?

weimer republic was too

Weimer was unironically jewish you stupid faggot.

Having just read through it, it sounds like he got filtered by jews taking the Lord's Name in Vain and twisting the Gospel to promote race mixing and open borders. Something we're still dealing with today and a good example of how not being aware of this reality leads to ruin.

"Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain." Exodus 20:7

that was his point, you stupid faggot. christianity and judaism are the same thing.

That's literally a kike pilpul.

Blasphemy. The Holy Grail is some nonsense British people, unwilling to part with their pagan superstitions, made up for their Arthurian Legends and has nothing to do with the Bible.

Christian copes, down with Yahweh

Here, look Jorgumandr on Yggdrasil is the same as the Kundalini serpent and we've got tons of rituals to rise it.
Drinking out of skulls, rising the serpent, sex rituals for it, etc. We are what the media calls "Satanists", my friend. But the opposite is the truth, the only "Satanism" is the fixation on the material world that the organized religions push. If you'd read the book I posted you'd get a better idea of that.

Nope, it's the real deal. There's no set one way to do things, but indeed the Grail of Arthur is the same thing in the end, it's just 2 different ways of looking at it.

There is One True God and the only way to Him is through Jesus Christ.

Im the Son of God. No, seriously, I am. You are too. The things we do is to gain a better understanding of that, and to gain the "power" associated with it. God in a man, that's what it's all about.

Cajus Fabricius

Try again, memeflag kike.

Usually they just call you a jew/kike for calling out the origins of their religion. I'll make sure to add 'chatbot' to the list.

National socialism and paganism are inseparable.

Last thing I'm going to say ITT: The church is actually the biggest enemy of Jesus, because it twisted his message more than any of you realize. Jesus was a rebel against organized religion who went to the east and egypt to learn the occult. He knew he was a Son of God, but here's where they twisted things: Jesus was telling everybody they were too, and how to enter the right side of the house. So I'm going to flip some tables in the temple in honor of that and say my biggest, sincere fuck you to the fucking church for lying all these years about what's up.
Have a goodnight, anons.

They were antichristian, but in country that is 99.99% christian, you have to larp as christjew to have any support.

The SS was FORBIDDEN from participating in church events under threat of expulsion.
"I forbid any participation of the SS, even in the smallest closed association, in church events."
"The state protects religion on the state's behalf and recognizes the basic principle of personal privilege in matters of faith for the individual. I want to avoid at all costs that any individual SS name is subjected to coercion in any direction and also wants to avoid that The SS is inevitably drawn into the conflict of opinions through its dutiful participation in the event of any denomination or any church party." [
"Leaders of any rank who violate this order of mine will be expelled from the SS."
signed - Heinrich Himmler
Source: Entries to the Reich Ministry for Church Affairs, Coll. NS archive of the MfS / ZB I 1636 Berlin-Lichterfelde p.22-23

BUT REMEMBER GUYS, The SS was SUPER christian.

The Aryan Paragraph rejects baptism.
"Baptism does NOT in any way change the foreign characteristics that are hostile to the German people."
Excerpt from "The Development of Jewry in Prussia from 1816 to 1925":
"... This is regrettable for our purposes, since we are interested not in the influence of those who still claimed the Jewish religion, rather those who belonged to the Jewish race! That includes all Jews, whether of the Mosaic faith or baptized Christians.
That is just what the supporters of the Talmud and the OLD TESTAMENT always said. They complained that the state opened all offices to those “without character,” to “Christian Jews,” even admitting them to the officer corps! The statistics given here must therefore be increased significantly.
The Jews are a race, and BAPTISM DOES NOT IN ANY WAY CHANGE THE FOREIGN CHARACTERISTICS THAT ARE HOSTILE TO THE GERMAN PEOPLE."
Source: E. H. Schulz and R. Frercks, Warum Arierparagraph? Ein Beitrag zur Judenfrage (Berlin: Verlag Neues Volk, 1934).

muh belt buckles

Catholics did not even support the NSDAP in the 1932 elections.
But I thought Hitler and company were catholic!

What do you think of this speech? Kek

Krieg um Jehova !!
(War for Jehovah)
NSDAP member Werner Graul recounts how Protestants and Catholics butchered each other for the Jewish God.
"With Luther’s posting of the 95 Latin Theses against indulgences on the door of the Schlosskirche in Wittenberg, the battle for Jehovah began. Not to see Jehovah, but to fulfill Jehovah’s will obediently.
"The Bible is the will of Jehovah!" roared the Protestants.
"The word of the Holy Father in Rome is the will of Jehovah!" roared the Catholics.
Under the thundering roar of the armies that opposed Christianity, the "Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation" and the Christian world collapsed. The Thirty Years’ War for the true will of Jehovah devastated the lands of the North with persecution.
Christianity gave you the nobler gift of death so that you may learn to fear; now it is up to you to raise your twelvefold destruction to the heavens with clapping hands, so that your sight and will may be driven against the demonic will by the spear in the body.
Germany became Christian, or else it would not exist! The conscious language still speaks today as a cardinal.
"Germany will be Catholic, or it will not exist!" So spoke one cardinal before 300 years, and they did not curse. Either the North succumbed—or the decision had to bring blood.
Weave your threads today between Rome and Wittenberg. One speaks as a Catholic of the "Lutheran heretic," the "Lutheran unbeliever," the "thoughtless one"—today a cardinal preaches in Germany on behalf of the faithful brothers of the faith:
"We reach out to the separated brothers..." and means with that the "Lutheran unbeliever" within. Your call does not penetrate the Protestant priests of Rome due to the necessity of their conscience on their pilgrimage.
Will our grandchildren still experience the Christian miracle that Martin of Wittenberg received a holier Rome?
Source: Werner Graul Hexen Ketzer Heilige (1937) Pg. 46

Christianity was created to overthrow and destroy Rome. Guess who else realised this fact?

"..over dinner this evening, a wonderful talk on the Roman empire and its displacement by Christianity, Christianity has been one long act of deceit and contradiction. Christianity is the revenge of the wandering Jew" Dinner conversation with Hitler - Walther Hewel Diary, National Socialist diplomat and personal friend of Hitler

SS booklet on the Christian distortion of ancient festivals.
"The church could not suppress these yearly visits of this white-bearded, one-eyed leader of the good Spirits. So they put one of its assumed saints, St. Nikolaus, in Wotan’s place. [...] The name Ostern, or ‘Easter’, is of Germanic origin. It indicates that the Sun rises exactly in the Ost, or ‘East’.
The Christian church chose this ancient Germanic feast of reawakening and resurrection for its celebration of the resurrection of the Christ. Easter is the feast of the victorious Spring during which the law of the eternal life of Nature is visible in the thousands of buds and growing seeds around us. These days of Easter are celebrated by the Germanic man by gathering round the Easter Fire, the Tree of Life in the house, willow catkins, Easter Eggs and the festive meal. Because he sees God’s revelation in the laws of Nature, all these symbols are signs of his closeness to God."
— Friedrich Weitzel, SS-Obergruppenführer
Source: Die Gestaltung der Feste im Jahres und Lebenslauf in der SS-Familie (1940) p.19 and p.26
But remember guys, the SS were super christian. And if you disagree you're a chatbot jeet jew.

I always have to repeat it, but christians see jews as a little brother who keeps messing up, it's a family member, they love him and they just want him to get better. But pagans, oh no, christians look at us as if we're crackhead niggers with AKs, and they're happy to make us know that.
A christian will never do more than expel the jews, and he will always keep the door open, a nice comfy chair and a warm soup ready for when the jew returns "having changed for real this time". To christian, jews are family, Aryanity is the enemy.

before hitler, what did the coins say?

one reich, one volk, one god

when hitler got in

one reich, one volk, one fuhrer

i rest my case

Christi𝐚n destruction of idol worship in Rome c𝐚me from the Jewish spirit of H𝐚tred from the Old Test𝐚ment
"This proved thoroughly justified, for no sooner had Christianity become the state religion under Constantine, than the Old Testament spirit of hatred showed its hideous face. The Christians at once demanded the application of the punishments prescribed in the Old Testament against the worship of idols. In Italy, with the exception of Rome itself, the temples of Jupiter were closed. We can sympathize with the despair of [Emperor] Julian [...] Christianity, as it was introduced to Europe via the Roman Church, derives from a multitude of roots"
— Alfred Rosenberg
Source: The Myth of the 20th Century, p.73

Could any of you debunk this

"The Jewish desecration of the German woman corresponds to the church persecutions of witches; both have a common spiritual father: Yahweh!..
If the church had withdrawn masses of the most valuable blood from its natural destiny through the PERSECUTIONS OF WITCHES, this path of Judaism in the XIXth century, especially in the time immediately behind us, was more bloodless, but in its effect on our national power by no means less effective."
Cited: Richard Walther Darré, Neuordnung unseres Denkens, Goslar, Verlag Blut und Boden, 1942 p.8 p.18.

Continues to cry chatgpt

has not refuted any of my posts

Huehuehue.
The SS research into the witch trials was to be used to prove the Christian churches long-standing hostility towards the German people and justify its eventual elimination from German society.
"The aim of this focus was to find an equivalent for the thesis developed in witchcraft research and a correspondence in recent history for the National Socialist state in order to prove the alleged continuity of the church's hostility towards all things German, and to justify the impending decisive battle (against the church)."
Cited: Hexen und Germanen, Pg 90.

Hitler was obviously a Christian. Which is exactly why he… uh… commissioned the renowned pagan artist, Franz Stassen, to paint a giant tapestry of Norse mythology for the Reich Chancellery!

"Diary" found by jew after he died in which Hitler's friend claims Hitler actually hated Christianity.

Is this like how Anne Frank totally wrote a diary not only in English but with a pen that wasn't invented until 10 years after she died?

Can you provide proof for your claim? I am interested.

Hitler describes Christians as serving the Jewish agenda by validating their messianic end-time prophecies.
"The influence of world Jewry on this earth has already become so strong that it not only sees the dream of the fathers of a coming world domination come true, but also prepares the peoples destined for destruction with cynical baseness." Serious Bible Students" (Christians) walk as the forerunners of the eternal Jew through the individual peoples and countries and proclaim the approach of the 1000-year empire, preventing possible resistance from the outset with the cunning reference to divine prophecies."
— Adolf Hitler
Issue 144a, Geschichte Des Völkischen Beobachters by Dr Adolf Dresler (1937).

Zionist leader Samuel Untermyer sees common cause between Freemasons and Christians against "Pagan Nazis."
"What is the remedy against the Nazi-crusification of Masonry and Christianity? -Both Masonry and Christianity are based on the Holy Bible"
- June 21, 1935

The nazi regime was anti Christ. It promoted pagan idolatry of nation and race, betrayed the concordat with the Catholic Church, implemented a eugenics policy and persecuted and killed Catholics.

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Christian color blindness leads to race mixing. Christianity needs to die before it kills the White race. Christianity is high on the list over enemies of the White race.

The National Socialists were so Christian they used a Pagan symbol (the swastika) for their ideology.

National Socialist Germany Was A Christian Nation

Why post this on a communist pagan board?

The SS were so christian that they marked their dead with runes and not crosses.

Why did you make a statement in the title and then quoted stuff that proved it wrong?

Christianity is the archenemy of every controlling, tyrannical government.

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Yeah, the jews totally aren't invested in disproving this at all.

It really is funny because they collectively won't even answer ln whether or not the Holocaust even happened.

Have you conceded that Hitler and his Super Friends were in fact not giga christians yet? Or will you continue to call all of us who point out the jewish origins of christianity as chatgpt bots, jeets, and jews?

That is funny. Holocaust never happened, but it should've.

Nope. Christian. Be mad, jew.

Hitler and his Super Friends

t. a bonafide and real national socialist fan

they collectively

i thought we were all the same person a minute ago. did you also change your mind on this?

The correct answer.
The shills seem to be under the idea that worshipping Hitler will pass off their ideas as organic to Anon Babble, but their admiration of what he did begins and ends at them trying to emulate a cult of personality to a cartoonish degree, even unable to admit that the guy never actually gassed the kikes.

spic mad

further embellishes his concession

we get it, we get it.

Christianity is liberal. Nazism is illiberal. You cannot fuse the two.

fuck off
Christianity isn't nationalist

All of those people in your painting look depressed.

This.
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