White 15 year old says his race is important

White 15 year old says his race is important

reddit teacher not happy

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Obvious slide thread but I thought it was interesting. Here is the only response that attempted to challenge the OP :

You don't have to like any of what I have to say, but realize that you might be effectively telling other people how they feel if you outright deny it.

Also, I'm not some right wing concern troll or fake "insert label". I'm just some guy. I don't want to be anyone's enemy but I'm not bending over backwards to be a good "insert label" either. That being said, I think we all have gaps in our perspectives and we don't always acknowledge it. Even when someone brings it directly to our attention. Such as with your student, and maybe me. If you want to reject my thoughts out of hand because of my lack of literally any credentials, that would kind of be ironic.

Not to be a jerk, but you are coming at this whole issue from a starting point of "how do I tell this person they are wrong" and "they are wrong because they failed to understand something I told them". If you approach the conversation this way it may feel condescending or manipulative, because it is.

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You really aren't coming from a starting point of respect for your student, imo. "Wtf, why weren't you listening?". Might as well call him a moron. He asked a very common question, or maybe it isn’t for the bay area. But it is for a lot of young white people. And if your reaction to that is "no, you're wrong, obviously you haven't been paying attention", no matter how politely you phrase it, you are not being respectful to a young inquisitive mind and you are not helping to address his questions in good faith.

If you approach someone like they're an idiot, even if you don't come right out and say it, people notice that. Imagine teaching any other subject and having a visceral emotional reaction to a student's question about the material. I realize this is an inherently emotional topic, but you're a professional. And this isn't math, for better or worse, your conclusions are probably contentious for many people.

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I don't think a scripted lecture in general is a good choice either. I think a more flexible discussion outline would be good, otherwise you are implicitly saying "this is not a conversation, this is a one way street where I awkwardly lecture you for asking a question about something that is indelible to your identity". If your goal is to make the viewpoints opposite your own look attractive, this is a great choice.

You said that you never said white people themselves are the problem. You imply that he has somehow misunderstood this. If your response to this is "I never said that, also I'm disturbed at your mere questioning of why white people shouldn't hold themselves in esteem", it's going to come off as picking on him and double speak.

Part of my point here is that you are so immersed in your own perspective and so sold on your own worldview that you are actually upset at a student for not fullly embodying it because of a class you teach. You are seeing a student "underperform" and putting the blame on them.

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Also, I think a lot of your worldview is probably a hard sell to a lot of white people. People like feeling validated and praised. If they feel like you're doing the opposite, they're going to go seek that elsewhere. Or maybe they just go looking to join up with your version of "the bad guys", since you're obviously not on their side. They want to feel like someone has their back. Telling them about how they have privileges and institutional power, when they probably don't feel very privileged or powerful in their day to day (like idk a teenager), isn't exactly nourishing. And when you tell someone they aren't allowed to have what others are, pride here, that is going to feel unfair. Especially when your given reasons are about something their ancestors did. And you can just call them stupid for that. But don't pretend to care that they don't agree with you then.

Treat your student's question as valid. This conversation should be for his satisfaction, not yours. Don't be his stated reason for becoming an identitarian. Don't deliver a rehashed version of the same talking points that literally only sound good to the people who already agree with them. He isn't asking why he isn't allowed to wear a swastika. He's asking why he shouldn't feel good about himself, his family, and most people he has ever known. The fact that your mind defaulted to anything else is the gap in perspective I mentioned.

Honestly, how you felt reading what he wrote is probably close to how I feel now. You are a sociology teacher and you are at a loss for words at one of the most common questions white people (in reference to race) today ask. Should you not strive to sincerely understand the sentiment of a significant percentage of the population? You may say that you do, but you don't. You just "know" they're wrong for feeling that way. Is that really enough for you as an educator in the social sciences?

And here is OP's response :

What you said is fair. And as I said, I want to have a productive conversation, albeit, not wrong about it being lecture.

I appreciate your insights and your perspective, genuinely and will think of how to start off and other talking points versus a script.

I don't want to penalize him for thinking that way, at all, and I fully understand where he's coming from.

Literally the only response that even pushed back in all the 250 comments. Predditors truly are brain broken, although this answer seems more reasonable than the OP's original post would lead to believe

Bay Area

kid has got to be a mega redpilled kid dodging trannies and junkies just to get to school

holy yap

Americans aren't beating the analphabet accusations. Your attention span is fried because you are niggercattle and you have no discipline

Obvious slide thread

Eh, I posted it because the teacher can't even realize that they're the issue. She thinks reading Tim Wise is good teaching.

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You're all retards, it's clearly a fake post and the paper is written exactly the way an AI would construct it.

Yeah it really is crazy reading that thread how up there own ass these people are, which is why I thought the response I posted was interesting. They mention the very thing you bring up here in these 2 paragraphs You think it's surprising that a 15 year old would use an AI to help write a paper?

analphabet

nigger thinks english is french lmao
just say "illiterate", ESL-kun

It's called not being a commie.

Oh thanks anon love you too

go the fuck back idiot

That's an obvious AI text that he prompted himself for updoots.

hekkin reddit posts

american (((education))) is just holocaust class 24/7 anyway

this teen should be made to do 100 hours of making shitty twitter OPs for israel

You’re not beating the analphaggot accusations

Mutts's law should be updated to include homosexuality. I visited the US recently and there were more gay flags than American ones

being such a retarded niggercattle that he can't figure out that "analphabet" is lgbtqlmnoproflmao+

White folks don't even typically follow their white European counterparts in culture identity, so have them explore the concept of white identity being tied to American identity & how American identity is rooted in systemic racism therefore white pride is rooted in such.

How do you respond without sounding mad?

Actually fuck both of you guys I checked and french BVLLS win again :

analphabet

noun

an·al·pha·bet (ˌ)an-ˈal-fə-ˌbet -bət

: a person who cannot read : illiterate

Calling other anons ‘faggot’ is a rich tradition shared by every flag here. Your bants are ok but you cry too much. Check those digits btw

Predditors truly are brain broken

What's even the benefit to effort posting on reddit when it will just be deleted? You're only allowed to think one way everything else gets a perma/IP ban so naturally all that's left is mind broken cucks. I dont understand why you fags bother going on that site at all. If I can't say what I want when I want then you will have to fucking pay me to post or I wont bother

The fairy tale "The Emperors New Clothes" continues to be relevant with all the race hustling nonsense going on in the west.

It's a long series of short sentences that appear to be regurgitating and answering whatever it was the teacher asked of them on the assignment, with the least amount of effort. It reads exactly like something the average disinterested high schooler would write.

zam 2 in a row is pretty good, checked you faggot
i don't use that site desu so i couldn't tell you. i just thought the post was interesting so i went and looked at what the response was

They were just being rude.

I'm not going to read the rest of this thread, but the English word most colloquially used is, in fact, illiterate.

Sometimes you gotta yap to ideologues. You won't sway them with pregnant catch phrases, no matter how clever. You gotta court them a little bit, ease them into the differing world view.

Top kek, white culture is wearing lederhosen and dancing around the maypole.

Jews are so fucked once zoomers come into power. God bless Andrew Tate and Nick Fuentes.

I dont understand why you fags bother going on that site at all

They're retarded to the point that it's amusing. It's like watching monkeys try to figure out power tools

Obviously. It's worse because women are more inclined to bow to social pressure, finish university, and go into teaching over men. Infinitely brainwashable.

I was very clear that white people are not the problem, but the social construction of whiteness and white supremacy are.

White people aren't the problem, just the (very idea of being white) and (being the ethnic majority in your own country) are.

Never thought growing up I was going to see the fucking total extinction of Whites or The Turner Diaries in my lifetime. Holy shit.

kek u said anal

Fuck that kid and fuck you too. Race is important to fucking lemmings and people who manipulate lemmings

I feel sorry for the kid. If you’re not a total cuck why would you not become some type of white supremacist after being taught your race is inherently evil but everyone else’s is inherently good and they never did anything wrong.

Ok moshe

Race is important to fucking lemmings

Unless you're a jew oy vey!

That isn't challenging the OP at all, it's saying

You're right but you're going about it the wrong way and you're only going to get the opposite reaction that you want

this is in high school

I realize it's san francisco but holy shit

Jews believe that + have an iron age religious cult doctrine to go along with it. wheres the outrage. Jews are everything they accuse whites of being and much more. People understand now. Rules for thee but not for me

the point is that "analphabet" is rarely used and sounds a bit unnatural, unlike the synonym "illiterate". I understand why you chose the word "analphabet", because its visually close to "illiterate" in romance languages.

it just sounds unnatural. it's like calling a building an "edifice". anyone who speaks a romance language will understand the meaning "edifice", but that is a rarely used word, unlike its synonym "building".

I think the third and last parts do. Really I just thought it was a very well articulated reply and it didn't generate the instinctively negative response a lot of libshits have . Obviously it's probably not going to convince a plebbitor but I think anons could take it as an example of how to appeal to the average normalfag and make "white pride" normalised for americans in general
I see, all good then I'll keep that in mind when speaking to anglophones going forward

its crazy young men have to go through schooling

This was the only thing I cared about too. They probably teach sex and race ideology in middle school for all I know.

It's ironic that the left accuses the white patriarchy of teaching blacks and women self hatred, when they are literally spawn camping 15 year olds and having them write essays to confess kompromat on themselves for "intervention".

Even in a non political context, the idea of a high school teacher going on the internet asking how to persuade a student of their OPINION is asinine.

For decades it was the goal of anti-racists to erase "color blindness" from whites. The tendency of boomers to teach their children to "not see race" was actually harmful, they said, because it made them unable to see racism. Whites had to be made consciousness of themselves as a racial group, to stop seeing whites as simply "normal" and everyone else as other, but to perceive society in its full racial spectrum.

And they succeeded. They just assumed that whites would immediately assume a posture of surrender and self-flagellating guilt upon awakening to racial awareness. They did not think for an instant that whites, upon achieving racial consciousness, would begin advocating for racial solidarity.

Everyone is still hung up on analphabet? You were making some good observations, I apologize for my contributions in derailing.

Everything that you just linked is saying

You're right, don't do it that way, here's how to trick him properly

Note

You said that you never said white people themselves are the problem. You imply that he has somehow misunderstood this. If your response to this is "I never said that, also I'm disturbed at your mere questioning of why white people shouldn't hold themselves in esteem", it's going to come off as picking on him and double speak.

There's nothing here saying OP is wrong, just that he needs to avoid COMING OFF as double speak (aka doesn't even think it's double speak, just that it will appear that way).
The only fucking pushback at all is saying the teacher's in an echo chamber, immediately followed up by telling OP how to trick White people into drinking the coolaid.

Also, I think a lot of your worldview is probably a hard sell to a lot of white people. People like feeling validated and praised.

Treat your student's question as valid.

Don't deliver a rehashed version of the same talking points that literally only sound good to the people who already agree with them.

Should you not strive to sincerely understand the sentiment of a significant percentage of the population? You may say that you do, but you don't. You just "know" they're wrong for feeling that way. Is that really enough for you as an educator in the social sciences?

It's just advice on how to trick his student sprinkled with small amounts of "You're in an echo chamber", "Use your head, retard", etc.

Why are brown people so inferior and envious?

have him think of examples of what white culture would be?

Why do teachers and redditors want to wash whiteness and white identity away with acid deconstruction?

how American identity is rooted in systemic racism therefore white pride is rooted in such.

Poor kid. You wish you could talk to him.

Hmm I see what you're saying now. I suppose you're probably right but I do think that going from -> white identitarianism is bad and evil and you should feel bad for even thinking of it to -> these are valid and important questions still pushes the overton window towards acceptability. Especially on a site like Reddit where the average user is a terminally online neolib or leftist (so these talking points or similar ones could be used to greater effect on the general population.)
no worries bro, have a ciggy on me

It's exactly this, the reply Fenchie likes is quite literally a leftist who took the instruction of "we need to win back young men" seriously. He realizes his ideology isn't holding and will be potentially rendered powerless, so he's just doing the liberal version convincing others that they need to learn to hide their power levels.
This is just a slightly self aware leftist. Not self aware enough to realize the bullshit, but enough to realize that parts of their beliefs are chafing.

But doesn't this

Also, I'm not some right wing concern troll or fake "insert label". I'm just some guy. I don't want to be anyone's enemy but I'm not bending over backwards to be a good "insert label" either.

(1st post of his reply)
imply that this isn't someone who is at the very least completely bought into their ideology?

I love Hitler. Fuck the jews.

Why do teachers and redditors want to wash whiteness and white identity away with acid deconstruction?

because they can't be "on the right side of history" until they destroy history and remake it in their own image.

I'll do you one better, fuck hitler and fuck the jews. He should have stopped after sudetenland/munich accords

There is a system in place to isolate white youth and keep us all from having any kind of racial connection (keeping us from having any culture) and then tell us there is no point for us to have any kinship because we don’t have a culture.

Why does the truth make you so mad? White people aren't like other races. No, we can't have the same rules for whites as others. You never imposed the same rules for all races so why should we grant that to you?

Ok, the last one pissed me off a bit. The troon claims that American whites don't typically follow European culture but they do in the form of subculture, in other words traditions or holidays that have transformed over time in America to be distinctly our own. They may celebrate slightly differently given geographical region among Americans but the overall themes remain, this is called diversity even amongst our own, variation, something to be celebrated in its own right when visiting sides of families that have inter-married. There is culture permeated throughout whites as a race and this teacher as well as the redditor troon are shameless racists, who refuse to acknowledge 1000s of years of worldwide white culture that is inconvenient, unless used specifically to demonize white people for being too numerous in any one single place.

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Ignore the shill, he's a fucking leaf and trying to derail when this could be a productive thread. You don't even deserve a (you)

Just strikes me as a typical centrist™ (aka he believes the same shit but just doesn't want it to be as extreme. Go the same direction just slow the car down)

Or they're just trying to act as a mediator (and continued manipulator). This person is incredibly familiar with leftist ideology from the sound of the post.
He also follow up with instructions on HOW to get the desired result, so they agree enough to promote it.

Like I said, you're scared of the truth. Too pussy to even quote while replying. This is why we laugh at you.

Yeah I guess you guys are right. I still believe that at the very least adopting the same kind of tone the centrist (or otherwise) used in his reply could be useful in convincing normies, especially with regards to the idea that thinking in racial terms collectively is something that is valid/acceptable. I'm not american but from what I can tell this is still very frowned upon there no? Could be a way to help develop the budding racial consciousness that seems to be growing among white americans

Other races never had the same rules for all races either. There's a plethora of examples of that.
White people changed that paradigm. Because we're the special race and you can appeal to our humanity. =)

Also the idea of leftists having to hide their powerlevel made me chuckle, thanks anon

Because we're the special race

Which means you get the special rules. Thanks for agreeing

That thread was worse than I thought it was going to be, only pushback being and a handful of others I imagine just came from Anon Babble.

Idk how leddit continues to surprise me with how fucking retarded they are but the whole "I need him to understand the problem is whiteness, we read a book mocking white trash to reinforce this" made my jaw drop. These people really do just want whites to go extinct.

The silver lining is no matter what those stupid faggots stir up in their witches cauldron as a response to this kid, it sounds like he's already there. They'll just push him over the line.

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Your race is important if you’re black or whatever NOT IRISH GERMAN ETC NOT LIKE THAT

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That much hedging means he has bought in. People outside that cult don't talk like that.

Hahahaha, how did I know? Is this why the Jews believe (((education))) is “kinda their thing”

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FERPA violation was committed.

Rape that teacher.

I refuse to believe this isn't ragebait.

American's are fed a steady diet of individualism. But of course there's Jewish brainwashing involved in that.
Minorites are programmed to hold both the muh total individualism belief but are also permitted by the system to behave collectively. Many of them absolutely demand both that you lay credence to their heritage and how it totally changes their mentality and course in life while also outright demanding you ignore that any of that heritage can lead to collective behaviors.
For Whites any expressions of collectivism just lead to comparisons of Jim Crow, the KKK, and Whites only neighborhoods. Absolutely programmed kneejerk behavior. The conversation is either immediately shut down with refusal to even consider harmless activities, or pointing out that we all already celebrate Christmas and 4th of July, and that's white culture. Basically, in America, minorities have a constitutional right to access white people. Though this leads to very "creative" expressions of segregation, from living in rural or less habitable environments, to being directly involved with the cost of living crisis (resorts or apartments or good or services are sold or rented at high prices but relatively average conditions so to keep out the usual troublemakers). This is that horrific "systematic racism" which leftists keep talking about. Paying 100% extra for a ticket to something so you can have vague shreds of a higher trust environment.

see

Since we're the race that made the rules, we can change them how ever we see fit. Are you the ones that keep saying we have the power?

You didn't know about him? He's a super anti-White jew.

I don't know, the fact he leads with "I'm not a troll" brings to mind that he's possibly been banned for more colorful language in the past and just wants to get a point across without getting the hammer. Preemptive responses such as this are usually a clear sign that you're either desperate or being deliberately misleading, yet there is a considerable effort made to frame the argument in a way redditors don't reflexively reject it upon seeing it. Such effort to cover all bases seems to have fooled you into thinking they're a deceptive lib, so it will pass well enough among the troons to avoid a ban. You should applaud the guy, I'm personally too fatigued to ever seriously debate any more leftists who know exactly what they're doing but we should keep publicly shaming them like this as much as possible.

Reddit will ban you for pretty near anything.

The default starting point of all current day leftism is white people bad. The attempt to make a distinction between white people and "whiteness" is bullshit. White people can not help but be white, the same way black people can't help but being black. Leftoids have no problem with black people celebrating their pride in their people, or Hispanics their people. They only have a problem with whites being happy with themselves or taking any pride in the accomplishments of their forebearers.

And that's because leftists hate white people by default, even to the point of self loathing. If they ever give that up, their entire ideology will crumble. Eventually they'll have to admit that because the hypocrisy of it is so glaringly obvious that even a 15 year old boy raised his entire life in the indoctrination center that is the public school system can see it, and more importantly, is willing to say openly to the face of the person trying to indoctrinate him.

an excerpt from a recent comment:

If you want to cellebrate your Irish, or Italian, or Croatian or whatever your family's heritage might be, that's great! Wonderful! Hurray! Please do that. "White" isn't a herritage, though.

That's nice...but how many Americans can trace themselves purely to another country? In my own heritage exists Welsh, German, and French. Which of these should I celebrate? Or should I celebrate an amalgam of them all? That amalgam sounds like "white" culture to me.

It's important to the opposition to divide white people so as to more easily destroy them, don't forget that the ultimate aim is white erasure in the literal sense, as you are considered Amalek to them.

Tim Wise about white trash

Oh, is that his article in which he implores people to stop saying "white trash" because it's offensive...to non-white people?

Tim Wise

Oh dear...

american (((education))) is just holocaust class 24/7 anyway

Not wrong lmao, we had a section on the holocaust every year starting with 7th grade. Either in social studies or english (The Book Thief, Nights).

You are not French but a sand nigger

Oh and Anne Frank and The Boy in Striped Pajamas

I think they make a good point actually. We could potentially turn this talking point around on them with some work too, as you mention.
Memeing people into into researching their family history and picking out the traditions they like from their muttatude would be a fantastic way of revitalizing interest into "Welsh, German, and French culture" *cough* *cough*. I wonder if each person having a unique family history would dovetail nicely with American Individualism™ and create an interest into such things? Who cares if it's a horrific Frankenstein of themes for now. These things have a way of spreading and creating mutations, resulting in whole new community traditions in the end. Sound very anti-division.

why are you on reddit anon

We're not hated as Irish, Italian, or Croatian. EVER. We're all collectively hated as simply WHITE.

Politically driven divisive drivel in the classroom. Teacher should be fired.

TOTAL

WHITE

SOLIDARITY

SOON

Don't forget that they even break down those ethnicities. Anyone can be German/French/Irish.

God bless Andrew Tate

Nigger, Tate runs cover for the jews and blames women. He has not one, but two Arthur Finkelstein protégés advocating on his behalf.

Kek whole thread got derailed, keep on going analphabet-bro

I didn’t care before they started talking so much about my skin color. Now for one thing I’m bringing back my grandfather’s opinion on everything, I will not be ashamed. But more importantly I’ve finally had an epiphany about that stupid question, what is white culture. Civilization. No one else really created one, and Jews buy us out but fail to create it themselves.

teach kids that their race defiend them

act shocked when a kid writes that his race defines him

kek
it is nice to know that teachers like this are creating another generation of right wing males.

lol this
They need to in gage in face book or tic toc or some other normie site
Plebbit is fake and gay

Look it’s not complicated
Everything is jewed and Jews need to keep white people down it’s the top priority
The se people are npcs and do as they are told by their higher ups
There is a growing need for whites to have solidarity and that will happen organically

"you were the only race in the whole world who was able to invent and build the means to travel wherever you wished, and steamrolled every other race you encountered, bending them to your will, but THAT ISN'T SOMETHING TO FEEL PROUD ABOUT AND IT DOESN'T MAKE YOU SUPERIOR TO ANYBODY"

ahahahahaaaa

He's probably been banned / muted for very similar language as this. The only reason this tepid shit is acceptable now is because "we need to reach the young men"

I disagree. He was talking about treating the kid fairly without being an asshole. It's just leftist coded language so it won't be banned, and the usual DEI retards don't notice.

He's just some raging currynigger, not even worth responding to. The arrogance of curryniggers is truly astounding, they'll be talking shit and acting belligerent right to the point that they're removed from White civilization.

as a born and raised San Jose kid I confirm,

the crackhead nigger off of 3500 Stevens Creek Blvd, San Jose, CA 95117 CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF.

You are lucky I wasn't carrying pepper spray the last time

golem thread

Holy fuck what do I do Reddit?!?

I have rebellious teenagers acting out!!! WTF how do they not know im a cool adult! My values align with everything that’s good!!!

My fragile values are being challenged!! A 15 yo has btfo’d my entire world view!

I’m too upset to dilate rn but the doctor says I have to if I don’t want the maggots to come back.

I blame drumphft and Elon and maga

White folks don't even typically follow their white European counterparts in culture identity

But they do. It’s just been demonized

so have them explore the concept of white identity being tied to American identity

But it is. It’s in the constitution

American identity is rooted in systemic racism therefore white pride is rooted in such

It’s not and that’s a stretch. Written in bad faith

you are a triple nigger

Yes

White culture is American culture. We don't follow Native American traditions, and the things we do certainly weren't invented by non-Whites who had no power or influence. They take advantage of it being our normal day-to-day lives and try to co-opt it as "default human behavior" to psyop us into thinking we don't have a culture.

Celebrating Valentine's Day and giving Valentine's is White culture.
Celebrating Saint Patrick's Day is White culture
Celebrating Easter and painting Easter Eggs and giving Easter Bonnets and baskets is White culture.
Celebrating May Day is White culture.
Celebrating Halloween and "Trick-r'-Treat'ing" is White culture.
Celebrating Thanksgiving is White culture.
Celebrating Christmas is White culture.
Hot Dogs are White culture
Pot Roast
Beef Stew
Stroganoff
Baseball is White culture
Basketball is White culture
Kindergarten is White culture
Environmentalism is White culture
Deer Hunting is White culture
Angler fishing is White culture
Ice Fishing is White culture
Potlucks are White culture
Backyard BBQ's are White culture
Sock hops and school dances are White culture
Tailgaiting is White culture
Beer Pong and adolescent parties are White culture

I'm sure there will be some screeching jews that say: "NO GOY, you HAVE to let the BLACKS do it TOO!" or "I MADE UP A STORY ABOUT SOME INANE TRIBE THAT NEVER EXISTED IN ZULU THAT SNEEZED ONCE AND IT SOUNDED LIKE THE NAME OF YOUR HOLIDAY SO THAT MEANS THEY REALLY INVENTED IT!!!!!!" but if you look into it these things all originated in White cultures or even a surprising amount of the time in White American culture specifically. There are some stories of other countries doing somewhat similar traditions, often at completely different times of the year for completely different reasons, or of European cultures doing something similar but in a very different way (Samhaim, Father Christmas stories, etc) but they aren't the way WE do them and WE came up with our way of doing it.

They forgot where we started from and accidentally went full circle. Many such cases.

If that is really a reacher they need arresting for child abuse.

What a Jewish cartoon. Kys

I drew myself as a collected, nonchalant history buff with elite knowledge

In reality it would be a delusional lunatic who cut off his dick and sewed up his crude replica of a vagina that is dripping with blood.

ywnbaw ttd