Cliffe Knechtle inadvertently and obliviously summarizes how Christianity led to Marxism

Sure one came from the other.

Marxism worships a god called equality, and they're slaves to it the same way Christians are slaves to Yahweh
It's not like Marxism is some individualistic and hedonistic rejection of duty
They're just as religiously motivated as Christians to bring their end-times to reality

won't talk about sex magic

cunnilingus lets you absorb her vril / prana the way she's usually doing to you during the rest of sex

Yeah, this actually suggests that achieving things is bad.

Wrong, in this context the eye of a needle means the needle arcs, the ones in rich people palaces, which are in said form to showcase entry for packed camels and horses aka merchants and cargo.
They got smaller and smaller to the point a rider in his mount would have to maneuver very, very precisely to pass under one. The allegory is that a rich man, with possibilities to taste any sin there is and veer off course fast as fuck, would have to live a very strict lifestyle to not fall into sin.
This is why Bible study is important, it teaches you context so you don't fall for nigger cattle arguments

FUCK forgot the picture

Cliffe is a mixed bag of legalism and religion.

I’m not shocked that you think he’s interpreting the book in such a way where it advocated for something worldly.

cool door
what other gay shit did you post? don't care, closing this thread

Christians nowadays are cowards and passes. They won't help save the country or white race in any way. They only try and make you a giant pussy which is the last thing we need right now.

le pagan imperialism quote

he didn’t read evola’s later works

The Mask and Face of Contemporary Spirituality is a book you should read.

hurr durr he does sex magic therefore bad

Semen retention is literally a form of sex magic.
Why does sex bother the internet "christian nationalist" crowd so bad?
Is it because they're not having it?

Why does he looks jewish?

Christianity is cool, but only makes sense when put in with the rest of the pantheon. Why only worship Lucifer while trying to forget Noctifer, let alone any of the others? Like shit, the atheist critique of what’s Jesus saving you from if not himself totally fucking lands all cause idiot christcucks decided to castrate the sky

Have you experienced the noble "platonic love" as a child as well? How did it shape your character?

Christianity is socialist and that’s why socialism is good, while capitalism is inherently Jewish

Cool, now do this one

Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Or this one

And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloak also.

"Christianity is the shrill demand of The Jews that all other nations commit suicide", Professor Revilo Oliver.

Okay, so now you're just making it about Evola
I don't worship Evola
You worship a proto-Marxist Jew

it's pretty obvious, one could even say the original idea was good to some degree, to tell people that ultimately they are all made in the image of god, be it slave or king, it can serve a purpose in making people better engaged in society by their own will not by the brutality of compulsion; but it's easy to see how this social doctrine could easily tip over entirely to the other side, crabs in a bucket, the total inversion of aristocratic values and obsession with the most debauched and ill-constituted as a way for salvation

You wrote two things, but I'll ignore the first thing you wrote and once you press me on the second, I'll move the goalpost.

Fake and gay.

The working class has no country

It's funny because the working class is arguably the class most tied to their country

If you want to make a thread attacking sex magic or Evola, you're welcome to do that. You're clearly just trying to get away from the main discussion. It's always this type of shit and ad homs with you people.

This would matter if christians actually followed their doctrine, but they don't, so who cares. Christianity is a protestant husk of judaism, and it's purely ornamental for the masses.

Once you see it you cant unsee how Christianity is Marxism and Globohomo 1.0. Jesus was the George Floyd of Rome. Exact same phenomena. To this day Christianity is promoted as the antidote to Marxism but the end goals overlap. Theres your controlled opposition.

how many variations of this image are there

You're clearly just trying to get away from the main discussion

try again

Even his arrest was quite sus. He was called a sex pirate or something

We were discussing parallels between communism and Christianity. Second poster was the first to mention Evola, whether their intent was to change the topic and force us to only discuss Evola is still up in the air

Christianity and Marxism both reinforce themselves through the same basic social pressures. No one really believes Jesus was a magical wizard and no one really believes men and women can swap sexes, people just go along with it and virtue signal when required so the angry mob doesnt persecute them. Parents on both sides pubish their children for not virtue signaling on demand, which eventually breaks their will.

Why are communist countries the first to ban religion, Christianity included? Why does picrel depict Lenin in Hell?

We were doing just fine before Jesus so I'm not sure how necessary his "liberation" really is.

Because you're arguing with Jews who like to turn reality on its head to make you do what they want (in this case, stop following Christ).

Communism is a religion.
Christianity banned other religions as well, through the use of state power and violence.
And no one has any idea what the fuck that image is or where it's from.

no shit, they don't want competition, neither do abrahamic systems, all these systems are naturally totalitarian

Unconditional

Unless you don't accept this God, love this God back, and give up your free will to this god...then this loving God casts you into an eternal torment.

What? He doesn't ask you to give up your free will?

No? Because it seems like every single expression of free will seems to be in a negative context in relation to God and every good thing that a person does or obtains is attributed to obedience to this god's will/plan.

Then there is the whole thing that I've seen play out in a bunch of other religions.

Don't bother getting revenge on those that wronged you.

The people making your life awful will surely get their punishment.

Be a good boy and just take the shit and when you die you'll get the good place forever and ever.

What a very convenient thing for a tyrant's population to believe with all their hearts.

I know, I do it for the newfags we all once were.

Cope and seethe more.

Kek, you dirty monkey never read it anything.

every single newfag in the "movement" starts out as supportive of or neutral towards christianity and eventually becomes anti-christian

Ok bro, got you.

Always do the opposite of what Jews say.

Unless that Jew was Rabbi Yeshua bar Yosef.
Or Saul of Tarsus.
Or any of the other apostles.

This, I was neutral on christianity until I started participating in these threads a few years ago and I quickly realized the anti-christians were right.

You have to lurk much more. I recommend "The Jewish Almanac".

eye of the needle

A small hole/door in the wall of a city for merchants to pass through. Small enough that a camel, heavily laden with trade goods, would have to get down to its knees and crawl through, or be led through with its pack unburdened. The allegory is that a rich man, with many goods and material wealth, finds it difficult to unburden himself from his material things - he would have to humble himself and go through the eye of the needle on foot, or drop most of his cargo. This does not say that being wealthy is bad, it says that being humble is good and this can be difficult for a rich man.

the poor woman

Jesus repeatedly taught that becoming holy, repenting of your sin, requires you to forsake your past entirely. The wealthy man donates only a portion of his wealth - he is still clinging to his past, part of it anyway. The poor woman donates everything - she has forsaken her past sins. "No man, having put his hand to the plow and looking back, is fit for the Kingdom of Heaven". Repentance is forgiveness, and true forgiveness is forgetting, entirely, holding NOTHING back.

This is all alegory for consciousness and states of mind, but that's more of a topic for Anon Babble rather than Anon Babble so I won't get into it.

Yes, the people who didn't speak English were not referring to themselves with an English word thousands of years ago
Thanks

you need to reject all individuation and material existence

dissolve yourself in this egregore, submitting completely

I don't like what it's an allegory for either.

Let's agree to disagree. Only thing I got zero leeway: You are a jew.

Wait till you see Christianitys view on race

Jesus was Rome's George Floyd

um, actually...you're a jew!

um, actually...you're a glowie!

um, actually...you're a woman!

how you know you've won the argument

Jesus Christ communicates that your value, your worth, has nothing to do with your achievements.

wrong, you achievements are valuable but not if they are selfish and not for charity.

Instead, God created you and me with innate worth and value.

No, you have zero value to God and are born in sin. From dirt to dirt.

Secondly, God created us to love each other regardless of our achievements

No, you know people by their fruits.

Jesus Christ loves you and me in spite of our moral failures. In spite of mistakes. In spite of our cosmic treason.

Only if you accept his blood atonement for your sin, in which case he adds value to your life by purchasing you with his own blood.

He loves us with an "in spite of" love. In other words, an unconditional love.

No, if you deny the Holy Spirit you can't be forgiven.

aryan values

no.

Unfortunately, I see it every time I walk outside

Same. The muttification never ends.

aryan values

no.

I wish all the christians on here were honest about that, and also opened up with that so we know there's no point in further debate

We are but you listen to the wrong "christians"

next time read a king james bible.

jews steal idea of Christ love

banish religion

*hundred years later*

jews: JESUS IS THE REASON FOR COMMUNISTS

Digits

How does relativism not make sense to you? If you’re poor and you throw everything you have or you’re rich and you throw just a small percentage of your wealth, how is it so difficult for you to comprehend that the woman paid more than the man? It’s the reason why we have progressive taxation almost everywhere on earth

The relativism isn't the point, the point is that it's glorifying meek helpless downtrodden people, and it's glorifying giving away literally all you have in some masochistic self-sacrifice for the communistic collective "greater good"

Christianity is moral communism. It teaches that because Adam ate an apple, we all deserve to burn in hell for ever. It then asserts that God has the prerogative to forgive anyone at anytime.

No, if you deny the Holy Spirit you can't be forgiven.

This is the part here that makes it all require faith to the highest degree.

Hey I don't really see evidence for any of this stuff about a god you claim

Well you need to have faith.

I'm not really built for faith so unless a miracle happens in front of me I'm just going to try not to be an asshole and live a good life.

That's not enough! If you deny the holy Spirit you'll go to hell no matter how good you are!

Sure does sound like a cult tactic to keep people in the cult, desu.

That’s great and all, but the Jews had Jesus killed for heresy so… I don’t think they get to claim Christ as their own. That’s like the Eagles losing to the Chiefs and the Eagles claiming victory because muh Andy Reid used to be their coach

the Jews had Jesus killed for heresy so… I don’t think they get to claim Christ as their own.

He was a jew though

Groups turn on individuals within their groups all the time. They don't all magically become a new ethnicity when that happens.

Well none of this is real. We are living in a fictitious environment created by a supreme entity. Being such a butthurt about material possessions makes God scoff and go

get a load of this dude

Besides, we’re talking about a fuckin treasury here. The old lady didn’t have to throw jack shit but she did anyway? Just shows she’s broken out of the matrix and god smiles on that.

Yep. And Buddha was a Hindu.
Christ was also the messiah. Ask a Jew if Christ was the messiah and see what they say.

The religion is about accepting Christ as the messiah and final, ultimate sacrifice. Jews don’t believe that hence the fundamental difference between us. It doesn’t matter if Christ was Jewish because Christianity is based on how this Jew was killed by other Jews. Do you disagree that the Jews had Christ killed? No? Then Christianity is fundamentally different from Judaism, simple as.

Christ was also the messiah. Ask a Jew if Christ was the messiah and see what they say.

Well they'd deny it obviously as he didn't conquer the goys and turn the whole world into a Jewish oligarchy

life isn't real

nothing in this world matters, because it's all fake

I'm still living though and spending my time arguing with people on the internet for some reason

he didn't conquer the goys and turn the whole world into a Jewish oligarchy

um...about that...
Literally none of this changes the fact that Jesus was Jewish. And you're only appealing to stuff that Christians and Jews specifically care about. The majority of the world's population is neither Christian nor Jewish.

um...about that...

Kek, it's why I worded it the way I did

if that's your genuine take away from the Christian worldview, you might well and truly deserve perdition. maybe avoid any church related to the Vatican to receive a more accurate representation of the good news of peace with God through Jesus Christ, His life, death and resurrection. Or have it now: All men are consigned to mortality and death as a result of Adam's sin. Because all men are aware of death, (Heidegger's "angst") they therefore pursue their enticing lusts and choose sin, from underneath the tyranny of impending death. But God, being rich in love, designed to rescue men doomed to die, through the cross of Christ Jesus the Lord. So that whoever would believe in Him would not perish, and therefore no longer be under the threat of death, and be translated, by the Holy Spirit work of regeneration of any believer's spirit, from the kingdom of darkness to the kingdom of His Beloved Son, to live, to live free, to live free of sin and the domination of sin's consequences.
I pray you fall out of love with evil actions, and your preference for darkness.

so much cope

All men are consigned to mortality and death as a result of Adam's sin.

Like the "original sin" of whiteness?

freedom from the guilt complex (which Christianity fostered in the first place) you project onto other people?

wrong, you achievements are valuable but not if they are selfish and not for charity.

outgroup altruism is suicide.
youtube.com/watch?v=goePYJ74Ydg

"All Whom God teaches, He teaches out of pity; but Whom He teaches not, out of justice He teaches not" - St. Augustine.
The Christian God is supposedly saving people on an arbitrary basis regardless of their own efforts or merits.
Original sin so equalizes us that a man who never converts gets infinity punishment just the same as a serial killer. That is moral communism.

Ya know at the time they were writing and talking about these things the idea of eternal life didn't mean a non-physical soul would stay in some other-dimensional place, right?
They meant as in you will not die, at all, and if you did you'd come back to life.

Then as this was apparently not happening for anyone they went ahead and said that on the day of the final judgement all the dead will rise from their graves to be judged.
So yeah you're dead but if you did good then when that final day happens you'll get up again.
Oh fuck you better hope that happens before your body is turned to dust...
Ah shit actually what we were talking about is this thing called a soul.

It is very very clear that this was all a cult and when the promises of the cult were not fulfilled to the adherents of the cult they pivoted the beliefs of it to kick the can down the road.

bump

I always found these things so fascinating...
Ok so Jesus died for our sins cool cool.
Oh but you have to believe in him for it to work..ok..
Well what about all the people who didn't hear about these events? They're just fucked?
Well shit why do all of that way back then...why not now?
I mean if you were ok with everyone being fucked to hell up until that point what is another couple thousands of years and billions of people? Why not wait until the information age and now guaranteed nearly everyone is going to know about all of this?

I get no answers other than

I don't know

Or

It's not our place to question God. We are not owed an explanation.

The last one is eye opening and infuriating. Because now this loving relationship with God comes into full focus as an abusive relationship. A whole lot of

You made me hit you again! I do this because I love you!

Sort of vibes. What it all seems to amount to is that the current form of Christianity is teaching you to just obey and worship power and that the powerful are right and just in all that they do and don't do. Islam does this in a more direct way.

Here's the thing though... I'm not entirely convinced that Christianity started out like this...and I believe a lot of this stuff crept in when Christianity became the state religion of the Roman empire....there's just so much in there that seems to be for the state's benefit.

So no argument