Why are chuds like this?

I'm white amigo, I just genuinely love the fusions of cultures and people in the USA and will ALWAYS welcome my new world brothers.

my point was that they larp as if they are unique in any way, that they are their own people. That they have some sort of "latin heritage". Which technically they do, but officially, everything they have is stolen from the spaniards/portugese, who are still here. For now

I'm white amigo

With a capital J

They are their own people you retard. They have undergone national births in revolutions from Old World Tyrannies. Go to any latin country in the New World and tell me it's some pale imitation of Spain or Portugal. That's like me telling you you're just rip off italians because of your languagge.

with a lower case w

So they didn't steal it.

There’s a misunderstanding here.
Most people here really don’t give a shit about cultural appropriation.
Germanic people larp as Romans and what not, nobody really cares.

It would be more correct to say that the Spaniards imposed their culture onto the natives.

Top looks nice, bottom looks like a shithole, simple as.

our language is quite literally latin which evolved over time, with admixture from other languages like slavic languages or turkish. Culturally we are in every sense of the word balkan. A bigger and better comparison would be if we went around claiming pasta and pizza originated from here and making claims to italian culture, because some thousands of years ago the "italians" were here. That's effectively what "hispanics" do.

Yeah cultural appropriation is not a thing anybody cares about except middle-upper class American minorities. And even they don't give a shit they just pretend to.

But the cultures in latin America are not just a one way Spanish domination. There are indigenious cultures, other immigrant groups (Italians in Argiestan and Uruguay, Japanese and lebanese in Brazil, germans in Guatemala etc) and the natural development of culture over hundreds of years in a specific environment with specific cultural/political pressures.

I don't think Italy would have made Tango or Portugal Bossa Nova or Spanish Salsa or Son Cubano. It's kind of reductive to try and say it's jut Spanish culture imposed.

Nobody in latin america is claiming spanish cuisine originated in the New World. New Worlders have their own cuisines and culture.

I dont think the original chud was very tolerant of hispanics in the south west

yes they are? "latino culcha" is big for them (lifted (imposed upon) language, music, traditions). Sure there is some injun/brown/whatever residue but it's largely just them claiming the traditions of the colonial powers for themselves.

I don’t want beaners in America period anywhere

See: You are totally wrong. I've been to spain and most of latin america and the idea that latin American countries are just pale imitations of spain is not true at all. Latin American Culture has produced more than Spain in the last few hundred years (and Romania for that matter). How many world famous genres have you had. When was your literary boom? Go to Peru then go to Panama then to Argentina then to Mexico, go to different regions in these countries and tell me they're just pretending to be Spanish.

Then why did we take land with Norteños on it lol

Shut up you brown kike faggot. Disgusting mutt. You belong in a camp.

literary boom? 18-1900s mostly.

oy vey the jews don't massively promote your traditional music so that makes 70iq spics superior

lmao

Yes, they are largely pretending to be spanish in the horrible way their brown genetics allow them to.

Autism

we aren't like this

both pics belong in Mexico

I'm white... just not a chud. Get over it, faggot.

Nobody gives a shit about your fake literary boom. Nobody gives a shit about Romanian writers. Nobody cares about your gypsy genres and club songs besides mr saxobeat and rapampam or whatever it's called.

People the world over listen to Salsa, son cubano, merengue, samba, bossa nova, tango, mariachi, norteño-tejano, cumbia etc.

People read Marquez, Llosa, Mistral, Neruda, Sabato, and fuentes

The idea of a Romanian telling people in New World nations they don't have a culture is hilarious.

t. false flagging chicano

i did say our traditional music styles. 2000s club pop music is not traditional to any land except israel. If you didn't care and thought it wasn't a thing you wouldn't ask even rhetorically. They do not, actually, have a culture unique to their ethnic group. Everything they have is taken from spaniards and poorly interpreted by them, plus the residue of their savage ancestors

I did say our traditional music styles

Nobody cares about your traditional music styles. It might be very good but nobody cares or listens to it outside of Romanian cultural festivals.

2000s club pop music is not traditional to any land except israel

That's retarded. Do you think culture stops being culture at some arbitrary cut off date because it sounds modern. Do you think Acid Jazz is fake and gay and not the result of an interesting fusion of musical sub cultures in London. Why would you deride your own modern culture like that?

They do not, actually, have a culture unique to their ethnic group.

They do. I listed you specific art forms they created that did not exist in Europe. If you're saying there was some inspiration or lineage from european (as well as native and african) genres then sure but then you have to say nobody has an original music culture. None of those genres were taken from Spaniards. Some have more polish or German influence or Italian. Mariachi comes from German polka when the mexicans had an austrian king for example. But it was their own spin on it and it birthed a new genre. That's how culture works. There's no "pure" totally isolated culture on this planet.

BTW I actually think Romania is pretty cool but your anger at latin america is totally unfounded. Almost like you don't want them in your romance club or something.

nobody cares about your mariachi music, paco

you're going back. hard or easy, your choice

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what romance club. We're not in any way culturally similar to other romance language speakers. The language and being european is literally all we have. Culturally they're miles away, and we're much more similar to serbs or bulgarians for example

I'm white and don't have a drop of even med blood lol

I've seen Romanians on here LARP as romance faggots claiming to be the last strong hold of the Romans even though your blood is basically Bulgarian. I don't know why else a Romanian would have the desire to lie about and defame Latin American cultures. There has to be a reason for this...

sure that's what I do as a 100% nord/celt, make threads crying about muh heckin beanerinos all day every day

I am pro-New World. I believe it 100% with all my heart that our continent will become one nation someday in the future. Your petty hatred of our continental brothers is dying out as we speak.

I'll never call a beaner my countryman, Jose

Panama looks more like Hong Kong than Spain.

I'll never call an Irishman my countryman!

I'll never call a Kraut my countryman!

Black people will never be citizens!

Italians deserve to be in internment camps!

Fins aren't white! Get them out of here!

Lol you're losing.

we are genetically balkan, you can make the argument that we have this ancient thracian and later on daco-roman root, but after endless slav invasions it's not really worth mentioning. It's like saying you're anglo instead of simply english. We maintained the latin descended language, and around the 18-1900s we also had a large obsession with france. The constitution for example is french, and i don't need to tell you about the flag. We are slightly different from other balkan groups, for example we are visually distinct to the trained eye from the serbian dinarid or other balkan groups, but we are still obviously from the same "cluster" as other balkan peoples.

My dislike for them i guess is simply european solidarity, i hate seeing browns claim euro culture

Panama City looks really cool but there isn't that much to do there. Panama and Costa Rica are both pretty sleepy but great for nature. Nica and Guatemala are the cultural powerhouses of Central America. El Salvador is the borefest. Belize is the funny brother who speaks English. And Honduras is the one people forgot to care about.

I'll never call an Irishman my countryman!

I would

I'll never call a Kraut my countryman!

I would

Black people will never be citizens!

back to Africa

Italians deserve to be in internment camps!

they don't but you do

Fins aren't white!

yes they are

My dislike for them i guess is simply european solidarity, i hate seeing browns claim euro culture

They aren't. Aspects of their culture are European because of the millions of Europeans who came to the New World. Not just Spanish. Argentinians and Uruguayan's have more Italian blood than Spanish blood. Germans came, Welsh came, even Slavic enclaves. That is obviously going to affect the culture. But there is also the native culture and there is just the development of culture over hundreds of years that cases it to diverge from being a simple marriage of Euro+Native+African (in some cases) culture. Nobody besides maybe some Porteños trying to piss people off is claiming to be "European." It just seems fake to you because you can easily watch their culture develop because it's more recent in historical memory and their independence was not that long ago.

Wow... so you agree with all those now. You're not a very good nativist. In the future your grandkids will go "Of course latinos are our American brothers! New World Uber Alles!"

Unification is inevitable.

what's the issue? go home and stop making the fact that you guys breed like rabbits everyone else's problem fuckin annoying subhuman trash, YOU AREN'T SPECIAL AND ARE ONLY A DETRIMENT TO EVERYONE, WE DON'T NEED YOU, YOU NEED US

and you're not a very good jew d&c shill and yet here we are

every white subgroup is visibly related in genetic cluster maps, and far separated from nons. You're being disingenuous and you know it.

d/c tactics

Wants to unify the New World

Lmfao

Yeah I'm not claiming they are white. I'm claiming once US culture was WASPS only. They didn't want "swarthy" germans. They didn't want Catholics. They did think Finns were Asiatic. They had prejudices against irishmen and Poles. Now that's not the case. Nativist panics always get replaced by new ones. Right now there's an hispanic panic and it'll go away in a generation.

I'm white. The fact that you guys complain about race traitor liberals all day then are shocked that a white man might like Hispanics makes no sense.

yeah well maybe if they kept that level of autistic filtering they wouldn't be 50% white now. Maybe you are correct, maybe you are wrong, the question is is it right? and i do not believe it is. The only reason normies were conned into it in the first place was because of long standing rivalries and one may say feuds between genetically related people.

FUCKING KRAUTS MY FAMILY'S BEEN KILLING THEM FOR CENTURIES

oh shit...krauts are pretty similar to us (because genetically we're almost the same people)...that must mean mbongo gongo from the congo is the same too!

Nobody in the 1800s was doing genetic tests and going "wow they're so similar!" over time they assimilated (mostly) and people realized being an autist about Angloness is retarded. My German side lived in German ghettos for a generation and then became totally normal Americans. My Anglo (and Norwegian) side actually came later to the US than my German side.

wouldn't be 50% white now

Oh no! The Horror! I live around a lot of hispanics and it's fine. There's no race war or whatever memes you hear about.

yeah, they realized being an anglocentric autist was retarded because people who are nearly identical were able to assimilate. The problem is that they also thought people so genetically distant would be able to assimilate.

The problem is that they also thought people so genetically distant would be able to assimilate.

Are you telling me East Asians haven't assimilated? As soon as they hit the middle class they become the whitest people in America down to their white valley girl accent. They are indistinguishable from the white middle class. If you go to SF or Seattle and close your eyes and talk to people you'd have no clue if they were Asian or White because they are so assimilated. People thought Germs and Catholics couldn't assimilate at one point. They thought the Chinese never would and we had the Exclusion act. It's not going to matter in a generation. Already Gen Alpha doesn't give a shit.

no, they haven't. That's why they still have chinatown and there are no more german towns.

Beautiful Hispanic culture

Culture

Chinatowns

Have you ever been to an American Chinatown? They're all tourist traps and hipster bobba tea places. Do you think most Asians live in Chinatown? Most Asians live in suburbs and upscale parts of cities. That's like saying Italians never assimilated because lots of cities have little Italys.

There are no more german towns

There are german towns still. But they're "muh heritage" kind of things like most Chinatowns are these days. The only authentic chinatowns left are in NYC and SF. The rest are just places to get chinese food and tea and maybe have one sort of authentic chinese grocery store.

But again, the vast majority of US asians don't live in China town. The majority don't even live in cities they live in the suburbs. The ones who do live in cities are usually young professionals in tech or medicine. And they sound and act exactly like white people.

They are no longer "towns". We have municipal enclaves exclusively occupied by either pajeets, chinks or sandniggers.

Canada has a lot more 1st gens. But I've been to Vancouver and seen how the 2nd gen asians act like normal North Americans. Asians assimilate in a generation.

That's because we have literal Asian cities now. I am surrounded by them

how the 2nd gen asians act like normal North Americans.

No they don't. They welcome their fobs because it helps their house value goes up and they buy their shitty businesses for 10x what they are worth as "investment". Notice how all Asian area just gets more Asian over time

You took asians at super speed like we take hispanics. In a generation it's going to be fine. You already see next gen asians acting like normal Canadians in BC. Same with Hispanics who are born here. The more ghettoization of an ethnic group the longer total assimilation takes (Germans took a while for instance) but you can already see it happening. I live in a very hispanic area and the older gen are very hispanic the younger gen might listen to the music and eat the food but they talk and act like me. I don't see what the big deal is unless you think their food culture is going to destroy America.

They welcome their fobs

That's always the criticism of every immigrant group ever. People said that about meds here that they come with their big families and then tell their friends to come. It turned out fine.

Except they will keep coming because there are infinite Asians. No whites ever want to go live in their shit holes
Their access to white people and white countries is not a right, regardless how they imagine themselves as assimilated. Spics don't integrate either, just look any anywhere near the southern border

Again nothing you said is unique or novel to our current immigration waves. USA didn't end up looking like Italy. Canada isn't going to end up looking like China. I don't care if FOBS spit on the street their kids are normal and you're left with middle class North Americans who eat poke (even though it's Hawaiian but it seems North American asians have claimed it) and boba tea.

Yes, mexicans are not simply spanish mutts. They are aztec adjacent jungle chinks. PLUS spanish mutts.

It is unique because the birth rate of the west is slowing and the fact that all the previous waves of European immigrants were never at the same magnitude as it is today. Nor are there today the same separation of cultures as it did back then when global travel and communication were much more limited. There is no reason to believe any recent immigrants have any incentive to integrate when they can go back and forth as the please, or become political or economic agents of their tribes and their homelands to their personal and tribal benefits. Speaking the language and eating the food doesn't make one "assimilated", not that Asians would even do that. Hongcouver probabaly had like 10 Chinese restaurants when my boomer parents were young. Now there are literally hundreds and white restaurants are becoming the minority among the sea is "ethnic" food.

Problem?

he fact that all the previous waves of European immigrants were never at the same magnitude as

Not sure about Canada but in the USA the year we had the highest percent of the country as foreign borns was the 1890s so it is similar.

Birth rate of the west is slowing

And immigrant birth rate drop after a generation. Also, it's not just the west every industrial country has below replacement level even Iran. Even Saudia which modernized in the 70s is quickly becoming a below replacement level country down from like 7.6 kids in the 70s to 2.39 now. It happens anywhere things modernize. We already see this in Africa with African country's birthrates in decline.

There is no reason to believe any recent immigrants have any incentive to integrate when they can go back and forth as the please

People said that in the past and it wasn't true. And all the 2nd gen asians I've met are as connected to their motherland as european-Americans who go "muh heritage"

or become political or economic agents of their tribes and their homelands to their personal and tribal benefits

People in the US said that about catholics, that they were just secret agents of the pope who wanted to destroy protestant nations.

Speaking the language and eating the food doesn't make one "assimilated", not that Asians would even do that

Except they do. I already admitted first gens don't usually fully assimilate but their kids do.

Hongcouver probabaly had like 10 Chinese restaurants when my boomer parents were young

Yeah ethnic food is not a sign of not assimilating. Food is the most basic surface thing people hold on to because it's generally enjoyed by everybody.That's like saying Italians aren't assimilated because I can go to Little Italy and eat at an Italian restaurant. Every immigrant group has transformed the food culture and that's a good thing.

foreign borns was the 1890s so it is similar.

Foreign born is not the same as foreign culture. A Brit immigrant is foreign born. The Italian, Irish and Eastern European population never exceeded 15%. The bulk of immigrants before the 1950s when they (((reformed))) race based immigration were Anglos. They 2nd KKK came about at that time because of this, maybe we need a real 4th KKK.

We already see this in Africa with African country's birthrates in decline.

So is your argument they will stop coming here or they will keep coming here despite their own slowing birthrate?

And all the 2nd gen asians I've met are as connected to their motherland as european-Americans who go "muh heritage"

You mean the ones that cry about muh racism every other day and keep voting Democrats? They are still crying about muh head tax here today even though anyone that was affected by it is already dead. It's the fobs they help import that continue crying about this shit too.

People in the US said that about catholics, that they were just secret agents of the pope who wanted to destroy protestant nations.

Kek turns out they were not wrong, just look at the current open border popes

Except they do. I already admitted first gens don't usually fully assimilate but their kids do.

Then tell me why do I see endless Asian restaurants propping up, including "2nd gen" ones. If there is a war with China would you throw your 1st parents into camps just in case? Honestly being a "second gen" is meaningless at this point when they basically grew up in a completely replaced demography. Their culture is already not the same as the original.

That's like saying Italians aren't assimilated because I can go to Little Italy and eat at an Italian restaurant

It's "little Italy, not "All Italy".

What the fuck is this cope salad?
I've been to Mexico and Peru and despite their poverty they preserved their heritage quite well. There are some beautiful structures and entire neighborhoods that have been taken good care of since their colonial era, plus the ancient structures of what came before that are also well maintained. It's a clear sign they at least take pride in their roots.
What does Romania have left? You destroyed everything and replaced it with commie blocks or fake and gay immitations of classic European architecture. I can only assume your butthurt comes from deep down knowing even brownoids in Latin America have something don't.

I don't know, what's a chud?

Foreign born is not the same as foreign culture

1890s peak was mostly Germany, Ireland, Italy, and Eastern Europe. And the nativists were so afraid of them destroying the culture they passed the 1924 immigration act that destroyed immigration from east and southern europe until the '64 immigration act.

So is your argument they will stop coming here

What percent of immigrants in Canada are from
I just looked it up and like 6% of your foreign born pop are sub-saharan african. It doesn't seem like they're coming in big numbers. I was just using them as an example of how all countries have a declining birthrate.

You mean the ones that cry about muh racism every other day and keep voting Democrats

Did you know most European immigrants to the US vote democrat? White Americans cry racism too that's an upper-middle class thing. It shows their assimilating lol they fit right in in Vancouver, Seattle, SF, etc.

They are still crying about muh head tax here today even though anyone that was affected by it is already dead. It's the fobs they help import that continue crying about this shit too.

You have Italian grandparents today who will still say "OMG we were interred!" No young Italian american cares. No young chinese american cares about the exlusion act. That's not a big deal at all.

Kek turns out they were not wrong, just look at the current open border popes

The pope is right about borders. I don't really like Catholicism but I agree with allowing in New World brothers. I love the New World and think I'm more similar to New Worlders than Old Worlders even if racially I'm European.

Then tell me why do I see endless Asian restaurants propping up

I just told you food is something that doesn't get assimilated out because people of all races like better food. It's why the US cuisine canon is almost not anglo at all besides some east coast staples like apple pie. It's all immigrant food. Why does chinese food make you upset? Does italian food make you upset? Does german food make you upset? Does greek food make you upset?

Honestly being a "second gen" is meaningless at this point when they basically grew up in a completely replaced demography. Their culture is already not the same as the original.

People said the exact same thing about people born in Italian and German ghettos. Turned out they were wrong.

Yeah I don't understand what he was talking about lol. He's clearly never been anywhere in Latin America.

What's wrong? You don't want the Northeast to be WASP and Italian, the Midwest German and Polack, and the South Scots and niggers, like it should be?

Kek

borders are jus imaginary lines n' shit, homie.

don't send me back to Mexico, das fucked up.