Russia's peace term

to the losing side

It's been over a thousand days for your "Special Three Day Military Operation." Even if Russia "wins" it's still humiliated itself on the world stage here.

Go drown your sorrows in some more window clear, zubhuman

russia didnt conquer anything u guys are dying in mass on your own terroteirty

Actually, the result will be opposite. As we can see, even USA is now trying to restore relations with Russia.

mad someone uses your own tactics huh kike?

window clear

Lol, even lmao. It's "glass cleaner", khlopchik. You should remove your meme flag and show us your real, Ukrainan one.

>Fascism and neonazism must be criminalized in neo-Ukraine.

I think, that make Putin, a gay, antifa, left wing, liberal, commie, faggot, cocksucker, kike, jew.

And there are also disadvantages.

Russia loses all it's planes

They give demands

AAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Probably not. But the fact they want the war to continue is a bad sign for Ukaine.

npr.org/2025/05/26/nx-s1-5412389/trump-putin-absolutely-crazy

Crimea must be declared Russi

just give up your country bro
yeah they knew this would be unacceptable to ukraine

Ukraine must not

lol.
TZD

Lmao, dude, he's ABSOLUTELY CRAZY about half the things in this world. I don't think it means anything, and negotiations about relations between countries are going further.

EU has an explicit clause that all members states need to defend any other member?

But has this ever happened and what would be the army in question? Not all EU countries are also Nato.

At least Austria, Ireland, I think

Well Ireland is unlike to become a Russian target though.

lol, this is a stalemate and Ukraine is still years away from collapsing. If you want them completely disarmed and helpless you’re gonna need to completely win.

They will cede what you’re able to occupy, but there is no way in hell they’re not going to go find allies afterwards to protect their independence

U.S. relations with Russia are totally becoming stronger, who cares if the American President just called Putin a psycho?

That's the entire point, it's why the despite the jewkrieg on Russias banks and companies by jewropeans and jewmericans, and the propaganda notion that Russia has lost 500% of its airforce and entire army every 3 minutes, they aren't "that" arrogant to assume everyone is gung ho to die for their retarded politicians, they have no political willpower to actually field said army, even if the gdp worshipping jew golems genuinely believe printing monopoly money means their guns shoot 10x harder, if they believed what they said they'd have no problem moving in turkroaches or Americans, the entire point of article 5 would be to get Russia to act first as a casus belli, and then run a 24/7 doomer new cycle on how men must flock to the colours ala WW2 to stop putlermort and the commie menace. They know article 5 would allow everyone to drag their heels and just fuck off without risking their own men or county stability in waging a war for some Washington/Brussels pedorings

by all the means in their power

all my means are thoughts and prayers, same applies for article 5. Unlucky

We're working on it. As for the search for allies, I see no possibilities for Ukrainian regime not to fall after the end of SMO. If contractual people come to power in the remaining piece of Ukraine, that would be fine.

I'm surprised that an American don't see how Trump always says a lot of shit and then negotiates with people he was talking about. He said a lot of that about "that Zelensky guy" too, remember?

>Fascism and neonazism must be criminalized in neo-Ukraine.

retards on here will still shill for the brown shithole that is russia

Ukraine must be neutral, so not in Nato. Visegrad Union is not allowed either.

But Russia does not protest it joining EU.

kek

let the EU invest billions in infrastructure

invade again in 15 years and take it

umniki, blyat

implying that EU well build infrastructure there

For what goal, actually?

this

For what goal, actually?

to build up the economy and create consumer with more money to spend
like they did in Poland

The shill stopped responding to this. Interesting.

Who cares? Their leader is a jew

it smells like glownigger in here, fellas and mindbreakers

Well, I'm afraid Ukraine is a very bad investment. Poland was quite a nice country even right after the collapse of USSR, Ukraine was far more shitty and got even shittier over time. The EU will have a lot of difficulties in establishing more or less acceptable institutions there, and without this it will be just a black hole for their money.

Ukraine must withdraw their forces from Russian territory within 30 days if a ceasefire is agreed upon as a prelude to peace

Okay but what is considered Russian territory here? Just Crimea? All 4 oblasts that they dont even control?

Nothing new here, instead of being realistic, Russia is just drawing out time. Hopefully all their bombers will be ACK'D as a result.

op is a ukrainian refugee

kwaboty

I like how nobody reckognizes the easter egg here. 33 things folks.33. Why is number 33 important again ? someone remind me ?

Russia is too weak and soft

There's no chance in hell oinkraine would have joined EU then, and certainly not now. We'd do better but inviting fucking Uganda.

lose the war

expect equal treatment

Is this really too much to ask? It seems fair.

Didnt know the war was over? Cant even conquer a single oblast in 4 years ornprotect your bombers and you're telling me you won? 1917 delusional vibes here

No security guarantees = no deal.
The war goes on. You guys seem to be having a blast or 41.

Poland was Ukraine-tier corruption and poverty in 1991, especially the eastern part
all it took was taking the pidor boot off our necks for us to prosper
same can happen with Ukraine, but they're now 35 years behind because of continued pidor influence
sad, but not irredeemable

Pro tip: the best security guarantee is having 0 reasons for Russia to invade you.

No security guarantees = no deal.

They already gave Ukraine security guarantees when Ukraine gave up their nukes. The word of Russia has limited value.

What is this cope? They've had 3 decades of (((independence))) and all they did was let all their soviet-era industry and infrastructure rot and crumble. Three decades of getting pillaged blind by kike oligarchs.
The only thing they've been known for before the war are child trafficking, rampart crime and worst corruption ever.

Didnt know the war was over?

Feel free to continue. To the last Ukrainian.

Cant even conquer a single oblast in 4 years

Land is not the only metric. Considering you mentioned 1917 you should know a thing or two about German defeat in ww1

Russia is literally not against Ukraine joining EU and EU gives security guarantees to members. But Ukraine keeps talking about NATO to destroy all talks. Those idiots keep making demands like they're winning. In a few decades Zelensky will be known as a butcher of Ukrainian nation

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Every
Single
Time

They've had 3 decades of (((independence))

except they didn't
they were governed by russian puppets who made sure Ukraine never leaves the pidor sphere of influence
and when they tried to turn West (Maidan) you know what happened

gave Ukraine security guarantees

They are linked to them being a neutral state. You can't possibly be that delusional and expect Russia to ignore your Nato ambitions.

Ukrainians are not a western people, therefore do not share that western logic based mental model. Intead they are a eastern people, with a eastern revenge / emotion based mental model. Accepting Russia's humuliating terms is worse than THD to them. They will fight to ensure maximum TZD before being genocided by putler. Im afraid russia is gonna have to sacrifice atleast 10,000,000 troops over the course of a 15-year-period to collapse Ukraine.

just let us dictate european security

how about, fuck off

day 1350 of the 2 week SMO

lol

You invent such reason...even changing all your history books to justify it. Best guarantee is end ing existance of Russia...breaking it least 50 pieces ruled by your current minorities.

I'm sorry but you're just letting your genetic butthurt get in the way of rational thinking.
Ukraine is a fake and gay creation in the first place and was always going to crumble sooner or later.
You can't create a country based on people who hate each other, have no real national identity and ruled by kike oligarchs.

create a country based on people who hate each other, have no real national identity and ruled by kike oligarchs

hey, that's offensive to burgers

invent

It's honestly pretty embarrassing that the Russian Federation couldn't accomplish these goals through soft power right next door.

It is to be expected that this war wont end with an agreement. The Russians know this. They dont seem too desperate. The west seems to think they can win the war of attrition. So far Putin has a stable rule. Same cant be said about the west. The economy is declining, politics are polarized, still no war economy, warehouses empty, no prospect of a ukrainian counterattack or stopping the russian advance. Heaping more sanctions unto the western economies will lift the pro russian parties of the treshold and further the decline of the west. the world cant heat with dollars but they can heat with russian gas,oil and coal. The clever move would be to accept defeat now, consolidate and extract revenge later but the western elites are too arrogant , too stupid and still in the unipolar moment

Why would you wait for 8 years for a response?
Oh right you are so buckbroken by your jewish oligarchs you don't question things

all of them
they also said if there are more attacks on their airfields the negotiations are over

I'm sorry but you're letting your false flag get in the way of being honest, Ivan Huylovich Pidarasov, curently stationed in Spain

What the Sumy People Republic future? Most important question. No way rusbros would let Zelensky occupy it again

We tried diplomacy. Putin is retarded. I agree with you, we should've invaded sooner.

what are you trying to say ?

uh uh
Btw Ukraine never tried joining NATO and neither did Russia

Putin is retarded

Just like all boomers. TBD, THD, TND, TKD!!!!

Muh donbas children

this wasnt an agreement to give the west free reign to oust the government with violence. If anything the west broke the Budapest memorandum first.

ok well then there is no need for a ceasefire

Vatniks like you can unironically only think in puppet terms, never stops being funny

Ah you are one of those cucks who believes in "color revolution"
Spoiler allert happy people won't march into the street and demand gevermen to fuck off because John Smooth from CIA offered them 100 bucks

>Russia loses all it's planes

all its planes ? All of them ? ok then no more glidebombs, no more cruise
missles then right ? The frontline should move very soon in the favor of Ukraine then.

Ukraine never tried joining NATO

At the June 2021 Brussels summit, NATO leaders reiterated the statement made at the 2008 Bucharest summit that Ukraine would eventually join NATO

So the West wasnt involved in the coup against Janukovitch ?

Where is their application then?
Also why does Russia get to dictate who gets to joina defensive alliance? One they could try to aks to join them selves....if they werent behaving like a bunch of niggers that is

According to you there are no colour revolutions. They are conspiracy theories ?

No, just a special demonstration operation :)

Feel free to do whatever you want. Just don't come crying later.

Also why does Russia get to dictate who gets to joina defensive alliance?

Why should the west dictate who the president of Ukraine is ? Why should the west dicate if Iran can have nukes or not ?

RuZZian constitution

I lol'd

It's Russia vs Europe and the USA. Get it straight. Ukraine is just a corrupt little catspaw. An excuse. This war is about time and pressure. Not about Ukraine

Russian projection 101

Damn never cease to amaze me but Russia dindu nuffin amirite?

So far seems like we're winning considering we had *checks notes* zero casualties
Heh
Proxy wars are pretty funny if it's proxy for only one side

So you're one of those shills, got it.

How can anyone take these people seriously anymore?

the least obvious glownigger
+15 хpивняc

Absolute bullshit.

Fascism and neonazism must be criminalized in neo-Ukraine.

And Russia gets to decide what that means, so they can invade again at any time "because Ukraine must be de-nazified"

What a joke. They're not serious.

as far as I can recall burger congress deemed azog a paramilitary nazi group in 2018
Russia is simply doing its hand of the US Law part

You vatniggers need to win before you can impose terms on the loser.
You are no closer to winning than you were two years ago.

you too, anon
I see you posting pro-russia shit all the time under the Spanish flag
remember, Anon Babble is a handful of guys

We didn't
Ukrainians were sick of his shit and hat is why 800k people protested in Kyjev alone

800k people were good with deescalation until unknown armed men shot a couple of protesters and cops in the back
syrian playbook ch.7

you’re gonna need to completely win.

These terms are acceptable.

They probably could, if Putin had more patience and goodwill.

They wanted him to keep a promise to join the EU yes after they wanted him to fuck off

These terms are acceptable.

And how many of your fellow countrymen will die in the process? Or does it not matter?

I post pro-common sense, not butthurt-driven schizophrenia like you and your brethren.

gloves are off this time I presume?

gloves have been off since 2022

No, memeflaggot.
We aren't talking about the past.
We're talking about future terms for peace and Russia is saying they get to decide whether ANYONE in Ukraine is a facist and use that as an excuse to invade again.
You are an absolute retard if you think any country would agree to peace terms that gives their enemy the green light to attack them in the future.

Pretty pathetic for gloves off since 2022 then don't you think

That would be their choice.

5% gets to decide?

send this glownigger to Vaslui until he stops glowing

Yeah a ceasefire is basically impossible if Russia wants them to retreat first, and it’s pointless if they want Ukraine to disarm itself after the war. That will never happen unless Russia achieves total victory

We aren't talking about the past.

we absolutely are, nigger. american money were funding ukrainian partisan cells ever since the beginning of cold war
now find a proper shotgun to screw in a few pellets in your palate

Unironically yes they are. The CIA is incompetent, at best they can egg on a revolution which is already ongoing

who said 5% There were protests/strikes all over Ukraine
Kind of like when velvet revolution happened in my country. Yes "only" 200k people protested in Prague but by the end of the week the entire country was at halt. All unions went on strike

cia has the entirety of russian house ensuring swift and decisive organic ukrainian victory

not tired of shilling for nafo yet poop chugger?

no, wrong. Both sides have a choice.
Ukraine choose to defend their homeland and sovereignty.
Russia choose to continue this war of conquest.

Memeflaggot using nu-speak
Tired of shilling for a pedophillic state yet?

Both sides have a choice.

retards cant even pay interests of 500 billion us dollars. They are over

did you miss the follow up where trumps internal information gathering monkeys forgot to notify the assasination attempt on putin hence why he bombed that city in the first place jude?

crazy how Ukrainians managed to make Russia look like the good guys.

Dude, they've turned from industrial country to agrarian. That's an unique case in history. It cannot be described by anything expect for themselves, even world wars doesn't have that effect on other countries.

You know not much about Ukraine. The only one they blamed as Russian puppet was Yanukovich. Moreover, Russia is going much better than Ukraine, how can Russian puppet governing make them get so helpless?

Kinda big demands coming from someone who just lost half of his strategic bombers to a box of cheap Chinese drones from Amazon lol.

There are decently fair terms, imo, as a Ukraine supporter. I'm not a fan of outlawing fascism, but as long as they aren't trying to annex Donetsk and Luhansk along with Crimea, these terms are very fair.

It's unfortunate this has to happen at all, but I'd rather it end here than see any more White people die.

half of his strategic bombers

Nope. Three halves! That's how you cope for real!

At best about a third 40-44/118
Still a massive oof

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That means they're joking

Btw Ukraine never tried joining NATO

Have you read their constitution? Joining NATO mentioning three times at least.

mentioned*

yeah this war is never going to end.
Or rather it's going to 'end' like Korea War, which is still technically ongoing now.

It doesn't

Actually, a quick lookup shows he's correct. This law signed by Poroshenko zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/2680-19#Text
has added a bunch of cringe statements in regards to nato and eu. You may find these parts in the constitution by clicking the links in the document above, by opening the mentioned chapters here president.gov.ua/documents/constitution (even the preamble is not safe from nato bootlicking) or by doing ctrl+f "Пiвнiчнoaтлaнт" here
zakon.rada.gov.ua/laws/show/254к/96-вр#n4707

Those terms are way too generous. I want the head of Zelensky on a pole in Maidan square.

Allowing them to join the EUSSR is a smart way to ruins us completely.

I wonder why would they ammend their constitution 5 years after some snowniggers invaded

I'm sorry, but did Ukraine already lose? Oh, that's right. The counteroffensive isn't even over yet. In fact, there's still 9 brigades left to be sent to probe the Russian defenses. Does losing 4 Leopard's count as a loss? Is that what you're saying? Because if you're saying that I can assure you that you're wrong. Why would you make this topic when the counteroffensive is still going? Ukraine victories are still being counted right now and they have been holding the line against the Russians for how many months now? Ukraine's up against one of the worst performing armies ever who just happen to have a scored some tank kills because they've been setting up defenses for over a year. But you know what? Russia still fucking sucks. Ukraine is one of the best fucking armies in history, They had major victories last year and would of had it this year if Russia didn't use conscripts. Maybe you should shut the fuck up before you make retarded topics like this. You know why? Because you're going to be embarrassed when Ukraine wins and someone bumps this topic. Oh look at that, Ukraine just closed the gap in Zaporizhzhia when Russia needed to win. Are you a fucking drunk? Are you retarded? Are you autistic? You are a fucking idiot and you should never make a topic on this board again and I'm fucking serious. I almost have a feeling you're the only guy making all these anti-Ukraine topics because you're a faggot Vatnik who doesn't like the Ukraine because they're white. Fuck you, be good at something in YOUR life and then maybe try to troll the fucking best army in Europe, like I give a fuck. It's so easy to spot out your threads now, you're a retard. Always doing stupid shit like this. Why don't you try to be a good poster? Just for once? For once in your fucking life try not to make a topic like this. That's just you, you're always right at getting it wrong. Fuck you. You are nothing.

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I wonder why you don't know how to use search engines in 2k25 and then clumsily attempt to redirect the attention away from your ineptitude.

So basically war was useless

nato ukrainian joint summit 2005

nato conference in bucuresti 2008

get better lines midgetenko

Ukraine just missed a 600 million dollar intrest payment on EU loans, thats 3 years in a row. Say goodbye to your pension funds.

This is bafflingly generous considering the way the war is going, but, unfortunately, the Ukraine won't accept.

the best security guarantee is having 0 reasons for Russia to invade you.

Existing is enough of a reason for russia to invade you.

To be fair, most European countries have no reason to exist in the first place. Europe peaked at 1914 borders.

most European countries have no reason to exist in the first place

for example Russia

Ukraine: "We would like to join a defensive alliance"

Russia/vatniggers : "Reeeee we are beign genocided"

Literally tranny logic

Russia certainly has no right to exist. It's not even a real country. Once Monke kicks the bucket, it will collapse into warring states. And all the countries that you stole from will take their own clay back.

As Putin has aptly put it, there is no reason for the world to exist if there's no Russia in it.

Either way, come and take it.

My bet is on chechen funny bussy-ness

Luckily, it's not a European country.

Luckily, it's not a European country.

Thus far it looks like your country is about to stop existing very soon (and I'm not talking about your Swiss VPN)

Burgers have fought a war to cement their identity and have been around for centuries, all despite the modern globojudaism.
Ukraine has decayed for all 30 years of its miserable existence and accomplished absolutely nothing before starting a war to secure its own annihilation.

The entire collective Western world is fully determined to back Ukraine until the end. This effectively means your country is stuck in a perpetual war. Your country is degrading in real time. Russia already had a demographic problem, and this perpetual war is going to be the final nail. Russia will never recover from this.

Russia made peace with us twice. They started it in Winter War but they never invaded us afterwards even though they could have. They made it so we would be no threat to them and left us be. Not in a way that was fair to us but there it is. If Ukrainians want to keep fighting I respect it but no point acting like peace is impossible.

unhinged demands seen as normal

The world doesn't work by вop в зaкoнe standards, pidorussian

I wonder why you're moving the goalposts after being proven wrong

Get ready for mobilisation Ivan. This war is not going to end anytime soon and the russian army is kind of stretched at the frontlines right now, fresh blood is needed.

I wonder why are you defending a pedo state Jeet

fully determined to back Ukraine until the end

A.k.a. to the last hohol.
This is acceptable, although I'd rather they just realized they're being used and did the only right thing instead.

a perpetual war

While it's not out of realm of possibility that eventually the west will send the belters in before the og fodder runs out, or at least try to, but in the Ukraine death rate is three times the birth rate already, and that's before you account for the so-called MIA's.

Your country is degrading in real time.

Mhm, getting new roads built, gaining a few million citizens, growing in size constitutes degrading.

Russia already had a demographic problem,

Who doesn't?

defensive

ror

unironically shilling for the glownigger nest in year 700025

kys

any chance we see you debalkanizing it on a gopro footage anytime soon

There are already norks fighting for Russia and it can just as easily mobilise Tajiks, Talibs and other countries with many angry unemployed young men if need be. The western world will stop existing before Russia does, if it even still exists.

Yes we are defending our selves from shiskins

Sanctions, embargoes, high inflation, high interest rates, tariffs, and travel restrictions will continue to increase. Furthermore, your military is also degrading; there is no coping with 1,000,000 casualties and the eventual complete wipeout of your strategic aviation, Black Sea Fleet, and armored vehicle fleet, among other losses. Your currency has gone to shit, and has your economy. You are STUCK in this war. It's not going to end in 1 - 2 years with a Ukrainian collapse. WE ARE AIDING UKRAINE UNTIL THE END, and Ukraine is going to fight to the end. We are talking in dacades not a year or two. Even if Ukraine is wiped out in the end, Russia will NEVER recover from this.

To all my Russian anons in this thread:
I stand with you. Please, keep the war going. Seeing your "people" get killed every day brings me immense joy.
To the last Hohol is a price I am willing to pay lmao.

So do you guys really think Anon Babble is controlled by the FSB or are you just totally oblivious to the fact that being an annoying butthurt retard doesn't endear you to the locals

entire collective Western world is fully determined to back Ukraine until the end

Especially US, Hungary and Czech, yeah. And we'll see only more of it in the future.

Your country is degrading in real time.

Sad to disappoint you not but Russia's not only fine, it's growing faster than before.

It's not the West who set the rules. Otherwise it would've stopped Russia the years ago. Wake up, Neo, the world is changing.

Our economy literally overtook Germany during the war...

It's a funny time to be making demands right after losing half your bombers.

I am not a schizo
I understand some of you you jeets are so buckbroken by big british cock that you see "anglosaxons" everywhere
I get why losers support snowniggers

what ever dude, its your people dying in mass not mine lmao. enjoy fighting ukraine for an other 15 years.

Are you having a tantrum, bro? Looks more like whining and self-persuasion than coherent speech.

protect me Westerners or I bomb my neighbor!

Simply pathetic.

Our economy literally overtook Germany during the war...

You spelled Narnia wrong

im just amazed at your nations self destructive retardation. To last ukrainian is not a problem for us. Our benefit is that russia is stuck in a costly for ever war. thats it. literally, thats it. You die with no end, while we live in peace. thats the game plan

The war will end in year or two with Russian victory. Russia gets AT LEAST Crimea, Zaporozhye, Herson, DPR and LPR. Ukraine accepts to be a cuck state with little to none army and neutral status.

You can save this post and look at it in the future to realize how wrong you were.

They want the completely destroyed ukranian rump state to join the EU as a ballast to drag them down. They know its going to make the totally uncompetitive and destroy their internal politics too. making the EU implode within a decade or two.

humiliated

What the fuck does that even mean? Why leftists always think that the world is like one big social media where only ebin reddit clapbacks matter?

The entire collective Western world is fully determined to back Ukraine until the end. This effectively means your country is stuck in a perpetual war.

Which will make it even worse for the EU. Imagine having to back down from THAT narrative, especially after the US made it very clear that they have no intention of strategic overcommitting and they just want to leave with a profit. Guess one who will be the loser in that case.

We will laugh at you when russia collapses in a year or two. You will run out of money and resources. Then things will collapse fast and nothing will save Monke.

nahh, 10 years minimum. ukrainians are turbo nationalist east slavs, they aint stopping bro. you fucked up big time. we are going to provide ukraine everything for the next decade garanteedvvwwx

why does russia need to keep ukraine territories if ukraine needs to demilitarize, never allow nazism or neo nazism, organize new elections, and never join NATO ?
they're not a threat anymore, why do they need to keep their territory? can ruskies explain ?

Nobody knows how long russia will last, but I very much doubt it will be around 10 years from now.

Sanctions, embargoes

Oh no please sell me your flowers and paintings of lgbt imagery. Please enable visa & mastercard so I can spend my salary on onlyfans whores. Sell us your overpriced overengineered cars instead of closing your factories. Please buy our gas. Oh wait you already do.

high inflation, high interest rates,

Salaries for jobs in demand keep up.

tariffs

Never heard of those.

travel restrictions

Yes don't take my money so that I travel to Asia or spend them in-country, stimulating domestic tourism, instead.

your military is also degrading

It's actually at its strongest since the late USSR days as R&D and modernisation are spurred by the necessity and the troops now have years of experience.

here is no coping with 1,000,000 casualties

lmao

eventual complete wipeout of your strategic aviation

2 more weeks

Black Sea Fleet,

2 more weeks

and armored vehicle fleet,

2 more weeks

among other losses.

Add my sides to the list of casualties yes.

Your currency has gone to shit

Four years ago dollar went for 72rub, now it's 79. Woe is me. Oh wait my salary tripled.

and has your economy

Yeah I've been hearing this since 2014.

Even if Ukraine is wiped out in the end

It's not getting wiped out, it's getting a bit of a trim (4-6 oblasts tops) and a regime change.

These all sound reasonable. Ukraine needs to stop being so stubborn and be more neighborly with Russia, like Belarus is.

why would they want to keep culturally and historically Russian territory that is full of resources, of strategic importance and inhabited by Russians?

A mystery to everyone.

Most men of fighting age have left the country (so did fertile women).
The majority of Ukrainians do not give a rat's ass about the banderite delusions of some fat Jews. The whole idea of Ukrainian nationalism is exclusive to some pockets in the 80 IQ Western regions.
Men are being drafted by force and surrendering in record numbers.

You shills know absolutely nothing about the so called Ukraine.

Nobody knows how long russia will last

they went from ''we taking all of ukraine'' to negotiations with ukraine in istanbul begging Kyiv to lifting sanctions. kek. its SLOWLY sinking in to russia that they are STUCK is this war.

This isn't a serious negotiating position

ukraine is still in the "bargaining" phase of grief
the tidal wave humiliation that awaits hasn't even begun
there isnt going to be a "ceasefire"
there will be no joining nato, ever
there isnt going to be some nato patrolled "demilitarized zone" on Russias border
its will ONLY be the unilateral and unconditional surrender of ukraine
period
the end

ukraine is like germany after ww1 or ww2

ukraine LOST

and now they get absolutely.fucking.NOTHING.
ukraines future is to become a blasted out, war-shattered 'special economic zone', re-flooded with immigrants, riddled with corruption, dependent on meager foreign aide forever

These are quite reasonable demands to the losing side.

Three years after a 3 day operation:
Cant take kyiv
Loses its ships in the black sea
Has its core territory invaded (kurks)
Let's Ukraine infiltrate 3000 ks into its territory
Has strategic bombers and jets destroyed...

"HuRrr DUrr, You'Re loSinG yoU MusT ACcepT tHesE CoMpleTely REasOnaBle tERms"

Does it really seem like Ukraine is losing?
It's a stalemate at best, your cope levels are off the chart.

they say the same thing about the entirety of ukraine. The question works both ways. Why would ukraine give in to all those demands since it would only confirm they want ukraine and it'll only make it easier for russia to take it later on ? What's the point in giving up territories and at the same time agree to make yourself even more vulnerable to give up the rest of it?

There is a strong chance Monke won't die of natural causes. Who in his inner circle will end up doing it? A lot of them are plotting it for sure. Oligarchs and the powerful are getting drained by the war and the want it to end.

Yes, they're very consistent on the matter and regardless of what Ukraine does or how long this lasts, the demands won't change. The outcome of this war will be ironically through attrition in nature, meaning that the pacing will continue like this until one side breaks. There cannot be any further escalations by Russia due to their desire not to fully mobilize and doctrine that prevents the preemptive use of nuclear weapons. So 2 more weeks until eternity. I wiuldn'0t worry about it.

i guess the past three 3.5 years of TZD footage was a construct of my imagination and russian troops driving over mine fields on dirtbikes and e-scooters is being done because its fun

The Red Cross has requests from family members about 400,000 "missing" ukrainian troops.

>you’re gonna need to completely win.

These terms are acceptable.

Yeah? After 3 years how's that working out for you?

Many millions escaped to EU and Russia too. They're now scraping the bottom the barrel and kidnapping randoms on the streets while their birth rates have stopped dead in the tracks and will not improve.
I fail to see how that kind of approach is sustainable.

WTF soldiers die in war!? Why didn't anyone tell me?

AI hologram putler will replace actual putler. russia will degrade in to becoming north korea with aids

About 3.6/7

That's quite easy to understand if you look at the pattern.

Minsk: reintegraton of DPR and LPR into Ukraine, recognition of Crimea as Russian.
Istanbul: all three as Russian.
Autumn 22: all above + Zaporozhye and Herson as Russian.

The thing is, Ukraine gets worse and worse claims from Russia with time moving forward. It's a method of persuasion, to show that refusing the deal only makes it harder to Ukraine. Easy, really.

Cope nigger. Finland was never disarmed, just lost some territory and paid money.
These "peace terms" are the same russia has "offered" since the start of the war: the things they would impose on total victory or unconditional surrender.

Because if they are not signing a peace treaty while they have some basis to negotiate on, they will lose and get annexed. I'm pretty fucking sure Russia is not going to be interested in a pupept state around the time they encircle Kiev. Remember how lenient Russian terms were in 2022? It is only going to get worse and worse, especially as they know that Russian victory is inevitable now.

russians are overdosing on both copuim and hopuim.

copuim: were doing just fine actually, the war has positive implications for russia

hopium: ukraine will collapse in 1 - 2 years, and will stop killing russians in mass

haha, as i said before. its your people dying in mass not mine. im literrally CHILL. im chilling my guy

back to pre-2014 borders

demilitarized zone of 50km along border

reduction of russia's army to 10%

putin given to the hague

war reparations paid by russia

It really is that simple. Those are very generous terms, but your dictator is too dumb and scared to accept them.

Ok I now see what you meant when you mentioned your vivid imagination.

Your time at getting featured at /uhg/ is coming.

nah, I don't. It's always been the same thing, remove your military, give us territory, and formally admit that ukrainian are a subject of Russia. In All these "peace deals", the point is to get the same thing but without spilling too much russian blood. Not that putin cares

Reminder to ignore nafotroons.

Then you are either completely uninformed or lying on purpose.

The terms are only going to get less and less lenient as ukraine keeps getting ground down and losing ground every day. Time is very clearly working for Russia and there is nothing going in favor or ukraine, beyond troon pipe dreams. Like, how could anyone miss that the US, literally the only party on Earth that could keep such a proxy war going is checking out and more interested in securing a profitable exit than an ukranian victory? They don't give a shit about muh ukraines borders, never did. To them, half an ukraine, a servile rump state with 100% ownership of its resouces, industry and land to exploit and hopelessly in debt to them is just as good, if not the outright favorable outcome. You think that anyone in the White House or the Pentagon is going to lose sleep over Russia getting a few counties off ukraine too?

Are you the same tranny faggot that has been here for years shilling for hormone money?

It's really fun how you think that winning side will make concessions.

russia fucks up big time at least once every centuary, and then spends decades recovering only to fuck up again, never ending cycle with you retards

Sonny you need to stop posting at Anon Babble.

That's about the extent of historical prowess I'd expect from a modern westerner, yes. What's more ironic is that this seethe is coming from someone living in a sinking patch of land that once used to be the heart of a long-gone seafaring nation but the last major war they partook in they lasted a whooping 5 (F-I-V-E) days.
Embarrassing!

well correct me if I am. Ukraine wouldn't have last as it has without the help of its allies, but it doesn't mean they wouldn't cause a lot of problem for russia. First of all they started pushing back before they got significant help from NATO. And even small countries like Aghanistan or Iraq ended up being a pain in the ass of superpowers.So Ukraine giving up everything diplomatically is Putin's dream. But they won't go down easy.

Also, one of the main justification for the war is that Nato is threatening russia. Explain to me what was keeping NATO from supplying Ukraine with all its demands since the start of the war ? The same thing that it would if Ukraine had joined NATO, the fear of escalation and nuclear war. In all intents and purpose, Ukraine has de facto become a NATO member since the start of the war. It just shows that NATO are extremely reticent to go to war with Russia, the only thing they would do is to defend themselves collectively because they know that one on one they can't do shit against Russia.

And that's also why since the invasion Finland and Sweden joined NATO. Not because they want to threaten russia, but because they understand they need to make that political alliance to get full support from the start in case of an invasion, not have to get invaded, and then have all the troubles in the world pushing russians back from your territory while NATO countries gives you help one drop at a time.

your polititians send their kids to study here over your own cunts, why rus bro?

I'm not your bro.

Nah, your country is shit, you as a people are shit, we all know these talks are for optics, your destruction is long over due, the question was never you being stomped into the mud where you belong with all the other trash cultures in human history but how hard it's going to be getting rid of you, that's all really, now go join SMO so we can laugh at you trying to put down your pants on fire while your spines hang out or something, you may even be useful for some study of human anatomy.

How about we just give Ukraine nukes? Russia needs a deterrent. If they nuke, every nation in the west is aiming for Moscow & the whole of Russia

You know how much money western countries have lent to Ukraine? A third of Russia's GDP, that is, in the span of 3 years, US and EU aren't evwn trying that hard and Russia already wasted half this year taking around 0.1 percent of Ukraine's total territory, that's how pathetic vatniggers are, keep killing them until is done.

your country is shit

Peru is three times poorer then Russia

Laughed so hard that didn't read the rest.

well correct me if I am.

You don't have google available on your computer? Are you trying to discuss a war without a basic understanding of the goals and demands of the sides, when you had three YEARS to learn about it? Or you're just a coping nafotranny?

None of your kvetching is relevant. Losers don't get to make demands. Losing more and more means you get to make even less demands. This is absolutely basic truth, applicable to all wars in history.

Nafotroony are reduced to coping about this?

tough threats for a stick sharpening macaco
(you) for the grandeous demoralisation attempt lol

here’s the catch sharp eye shitskino
Russians may or may not go there, while in the ukraine…
let’s say if Russia strikes the ukraine’s parking mall with vans stored in there it’ll be a crippling blow for their war effort

you

chug poop

Russia

killing the ukrainian shitskins and pedo glowniggers with heavy melanin contamination

you

will 42% yourself like a proper nafo shemale