Fuck this dogshit country

THIS COUNTRY FUCKED UP BY ALLOWING INDIAN INTERNATIONAL STUDENTS.

THEY ARE RUINING EVERYTHING AND GETTING HIRED BY COMPANIES WITHOUT A FUCKING WORK PERMIT.

IT'S LIKE IN 2016, WHEN ALL THOSE ILLEGAL MEXICANS ENTERING AMERICA AND TRUMP FIGHTING BACK ON THAT ISSUE.

THERE'S SO MUCH FUCKING CORRUPTION. I CAN'T FUCKING TAKE IT ANYMORE.

I TRIED TO BE SO FUCKING PATEINT.
SOMEONE FUCKING DEPORT THESE FUCKING RETARDS. THEY DO NOT BELONG HERE. THEY AREN'T HERE TO STUDY. THEY ARE HERE TO HARM THE COMMUNITY AND RUIN PEOPLES LIVES.

C FOR CANADA.
C FOR CORRUPTION.
CANADA IS EXTREMELY CORRUPT.

Based leaf

why don’t you have a mutually beneficial relationship with them? Try to exchange some of your respective cultures. They can teach you about cow shit, and you can teach them about dog cock

Does anyone here actually own a business? I don't mean a self employed blumpkin with a truck and some tools. An actual business that employs people, produces goods and services at scale, and supports the economy. Does anyone?
Because I do.
And yeah, the recent increase in population has had some negative effects like real estate pressures. But this labour supply has allowed my business to stay afloat. Without it, me and many like me would have gone under back in 2022. Luckily, much smarter people than post here are in charge. My market share is way up, so are my profits. That allows me to employ more people for less which means and paying out more medical benefits. This is objectively good for Canadians.
I'm betting most people opposed to this have no alternative suggestions on how else we could have saved our country. I'm betting most opposition just has a seething hatred of brown people. And that's not my problem.

t. shitskin on a student visa

Reminder that if thinking about the reality of contemporary Canada becomes too difficult, there are people willing to listen before it's too late.

ummm you voted for this

it's good for Canadians that our country is being destroyed because a shitty failed business owner got to avoid going under

t. elon musk bot trying to stir racism and separatism in Canada

Not sending their best
How's it "being destroyed" if we literally saved the GDP from tanking, housing from collapsing, and going into a full recession? GDP continues to go up. That is the heartbeat of our economy. You might not like it but it was the right move.

You voted for it so why bitch now.
You guys "owned Trump"

1 post by this bot again
Prove me wrong, pussy
You wont

You have to go back or you go on the stack

nobody can get jobs, nobody can get homes, franchise after franchise reach lowest levels of quality and service

It was good for india, not canada. That is why all of our people want the immigrants gone yet only the politicians found guilty of foreign interference want more to come.

You have to go back, ranjeet, also you stink and everyone hates you.

Libs voted in Trumps first choice.
Trump wanted Carney.
Watch trumps interview with Carney at the white house, Trump brags about shifting the votes away from the conservatives and giving libs the win. He's a fucking retard, as are the elderly who voted for him.

youtube.com/watch?v=HDID2T9-UYU&t=72
1:12 into this

Most of canada voted against this btw, when you say "you voted for this" you mean ottawa and vancouver. Everyone else wants to split off from that insanity.

nobody can get jobs

Yeah, thanks to the Trump trade war.

nobody can get homes

Are you homeless? I seriously doubt that.

franchise after franchise reach lowest levels of quality and service

If the quality of fast food bothers you, don't buy it. I haven't eaten fast food since last decade, what's your excuse?

You have to go back

Actually, you do. I'm the Canadian keeping the economy afloat, employing people, paying salaries, corporate taxes, and medical benefits. Whereas you complain while enjoying the various social programs paid for by people like me. If you had your way, you'd be on the street. Luckily the adults are in charge.

How's it "being destroyed"

By flooding it with retarded shitskins that live off our backs while terraforming our country into the same shitholes they left behind. This was a nice wholesome first world country before asians, africans, arabs, and south americans came here to live off the back of a country they had no hand in building. This country would have failed a long time ago if your people were here in the nation building days.

if we literally saved the GDP from tanking, housing from collapsing, and going into a full recession? GDP continues to go up. That is the heartbeat of our economy. You might not like it but it was the right move.

muh gdp

Our gdp per capita has been mostly stagnant for decades while the price of everything has skyrocketed. The average Canadian is far poorer and with less opportunities than ever. We have lower purchasing power now than during the great depression.

You and your kind are not benefitting Canada. You have taken far more than you have given back, and everything is objectively worse. If your people were worth a damn then you wouldn't have had to leave your home country to begin with, your home country would have already been good enough to prevent you from leaving.

Sorry, big dog.
You guys are in a solid Silver position for world's most cucked.
You'll never beat the UK, but you're still pretty fucked.

Canadians wanted and voted for unlimited jeets to poor in to prove how much better they are then America.

Most of canada voted against this btw

lmao no. They voted against the person but not the idea. Canadians love this shit.

1pbtid
All fields

Yeah, thanks to the Trump trade war.

No this has been a thing since at least 2016 and even the old ladies were complaining about jeet workers

Are you homeless? I seriously doubt that.

I own my home but none of my friends of family will, and my bills are retardedly high for the ancient ass home I live in. Supply and demand, you aren't needed here and you take up space that actual Canadians need. Part of the 14 words is "a future for white children" and you're directly in the way, Ranjeet. Please go fix india if you care so much about being a productive member of a community.

>franchise after franchise reach lowest levels of quality and service

I'm not talking about fast food, I'm talking about everything from hotels to trucking. Road accidents are up like 2000% since derpinderpreet started hiring his cousins to fly 18 wheelers down the roads. They don't even have the respect to follow safety precautions and just run the truck 24/7. Many kids have been killed by these completely preventable accidents.

Actually, you do (have to go back)

To where? My family has been here since the first boats in 1492 so Ive got nowhere to go back to, you do though you foreign parasite.

Git good loser, if a bunch of indians without permits are more attractive hires than you are, you deserve being unemployed.

You're literally a traitor and you always will be

muh gdp

yeah its a troll

You can't say this when there are diversity quotas, pajeet

I'm the Canadian keeping the economy afloat, employing people, paying salaries, corporate taxes, and medical benefits

You aren't a Canadian and you don't pay for shit. You already admitted your business would have failed without cheap foreign labour, and so you are a worthless failure that doesn't benefit anyone.

Our country is in a silent depression because of you, ours kids can't get an education anymore because of you, our kids will never own a home because of you, and our kids will have no opportunities or upward mobility because of you. This country doesn't exist because of you shitskins, it exists in spite of you and was built entirely in your absence. It isn't a coincedence that this was a nice country before you shitskins lived here, and is now getting worse and worse as the number of you shitskins increases.

We literally pay them to hire you, you stupid nigger. We have been subsidizing your wages and giving tax breaks for "diverse" hiring quotas for decades at this point.

Enforce your rights, DEI goes for whites too if you're not a stuck little bitch.
You all deserve being replaced by indians with no work permits.

These threads are always started by the same jeet. Don't feed the jeet

Stop being weak, or keep taking it, you have no excuse.

DEI goes for Whites too

it literally never has, you stupid shitskin. It is something we exclusively pay for, and shitskins exclusively benefit from

you deserve it saar!

For being kind and paying for your people for multiple generations, giving you opportunities even we never had, giving you literally everything you have? You shitskins are such greedy little parasites.

You're weak, enjoy your fate.

Get your pal bud, the jeets cant be reasoned with

I'm guessing you're both "newcomers" upset that you only get minimum wage for your unskilled labour. That's why you're here. Do the job or don't, you're instantly replaceable.

look goyim, as the owner of 2 of the 7 Timjeet Hortloos in my modest town, without infinite jeets I'd be forced to shut down my stores. Remember how those mom and pop coffee shops started closing down in the years after trudeau was elected? We can't let the same happen to our beloved canadian icon, we need to keep my stores profitable no matter the cost.

weak

Your people have a lower average grip strength than the average teenage german girl, who are you kidding Dikhsuk Durdheep?

Bullying jeets serves a greater purpose.

You guessed wrong, shitskin.

Bullying jeets serves a greater purpose.

Facts.

SAR THEY ARE BRAHMIN THEY ARE WHITE SAAAAAAAR

Bringing in a million shitskins a year is keeping housing from collapsing? So all the faggots not having anywhere to live and this sending the prices of housing through the roof is good? The only people the real estate market going down would affect is jew landlords, oh no.

Colonial Canadians were selected by the British for their lack of education and status, as well as for maximum obedience and docility. Canadians are descended from docile and stupid nigger cattle. Canada has always been a post-national special economic zone. Canada has never been a real country. There is no history, no culture, no heroes. Just mediocrity and a totally unjustified sense of self-importance and the resulting narcissism. Anyone of value has long left this country, as is the constant tradition. It's just a shithole country for leftover mediocre retards. Justin Trudeau is a perfect representative for Canadians, not just in policies but just his overall personality.

This is a copy pasta just for your info guys

The remaining 45% of Canadians are all Indians, lmao

More Indians coming to infest Canada in 2025

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just go outside and ask any canadian

I have and they all love them.

You have posted this unknown author every day, multiple times a day, in multiple active threads at the same time. You are a buck broken jeet, and the product of my work.

I want everyone on planet Earth to die. Every. Single. One. Of. You. Fuckers.

DEI means less whites

literally said my family has been here since 1492

Maybe you are the foreigner if you can't even read?

is quebec jeeted too?
I think jeets would have a hard time learning french, but i could be wrong

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Please kill yourself

You will swing

It's a quote from Maximum Canada by Doug Sanders. You're posting in a thread that gets posted every day. Get used to it. It's clear you take offense at historical fact. You believe in a totally fictional identity and it would break you to accept the truth. This is why you seethe every time it's posted. For you, I'll all the cite to it next time.

They do but all they have to see is "bonjour" and Canadians think they speak better French then the French who lived here all their lives.

Based. Planetary genocide. Fuck homosapiens, let them all die.

Fuck you too!

Delusional, 98% of Canadians voted for this. Higher if you count consenting non-voters.

damn you guys are cooked, sorry to hear that
you need to lynch your jewish politicians

you need to lynch your jewish politicians

Canadians want this. You could clear out our entire government and leafs would just vote for the same shit all over again

that's sad

"w-well I'll keep seething everyday!"

lmao okay nigger

historical fact

Maybe look up who your favourite author here is, and who he works for. He isn't a reliable source on anything.

I know people who are 30-50 years old that want more migrants. It's not just boomers.

I'm generalising

cope

cope

Your existence, defined.

no u

it's all so tiresome

it's le tiresome not having a job and seething that White people exist all day

lmao I bet it is. Stay bullied faggot. :)

it never ceases to amaze me what retards Canadians are, it's a wasteland of mediocrity. They're so aggressively proud of their mediocrity and have mastered the mental gymnastics to genuinely believe it. You can tell them to look around and despair but they'll just spite you by killing their own kids on the altar of housing prices. More jeets for you, pleb. Dance for the oligarchs and thank them.

Ah sooooo, hey why don't you go to your mother's home country and look for work? You'll never be accepted as a hapa abomination, you know.

entire thread is leafs venting about how the poo invasion has ruined their country

saar they're so aggressively proud of their mediocrity and have mastered the mental gymnastics to genuinely believe it

This is the elite human capital we are importing, they don't comprehend the words they speak it's just meaningless babble

Remove jeets then, stop importing infinity jeets. Stop saying things, your words are meaningless. Canadians are docile, keep mumbling and complaining quietly to yourself, but definitely never ever rock the boat.

This is Canadian culture.

lmao boo hoo faggot

What your saying is that you run an unprofitable business. The only way you can make money is to hire cheap labour. So in effect everyone else pays. They pay by paying higher taxes, which subside the cheap labour your so fond of. The cheap labour get subsided housing benefits, healthcare education.. meanwhile the local population cannot cope with the pressures on local infrastructure raising prices. But that's ok. So long as your making money from your unprofitable business.

LOL!

White women are addicted to BIC, it's hard to keep up with all the Stacey's that want me to teach them everything from. The Kama Sutra but white men can't get their penis up for anything but other men so I have to do my duty to breed these white women

And yeah, the recent increase in population has had some negative effects like real estate pressures. But this labour supply has allowed my business to stay afloat.

You're the reason why your country is rapidly turning into a shithole. You can't see past the end of your own nose, and you can't think longer than a minute into the future.
Your cheap labor is forcibly subsidized by everyone else, who are your customers. The more they have to pay for pajeet to work for you cheaply, the less they can afford to buy from you. You've probably noticed business is slowing, which is because you're now past the tipping point.
Also, aside from social services and healthcare breaking under the massive increase in population, with absolutely no way to add capacity, you're rapidly reaching the point where the upward pressure on every market-priced expense of living, especially housing, means the cheap labor is going to stop being cheap. Pajeet and his 50 cousins may live together, reducing his individual rent costs, but he still has to eat and send money home. They can't afford to live there much longer.
This year probably but by the next year certainly, Canada's going to experience an absolute nightmare as the consumer runs out of credit to spend, and debt-financed consumption is pretty much the sole driver of the Canadian economy right now. Hopefully it happens at the same time banks need a bailout from offering 0% loans to pajeets based on their solemn word they'll totally pay it back, except they've all moved home now to be kings of their village

tldr you're fucked and the funniest thing is when it collapses, the government is going to blame kulaks like you, because you're just well-known enough for people to blame, and not powerful enough to defend yourself

Dam i found someone complaining about losing their minimum wage job, kekget work skills and stop competing with a pajeet loser. They not taking my jobs. Left tards love blaming everything but themselves. Immigration is shit, but its not the reason you dont have a job.

Canadians had a choice btw

How are leftist Canucks coping? Or are they just avoiding the subject and moving to the States, Europe, etc.?

They just hate Trump that's literally it nothing else matters. Like for real. There was a "leftist" party in Canada but it just become total identity politics woketard shit. Actively sabotaged "workers", propped up the liberals. Now the NDP has lost it's party status. Canadian leftists have converted Canada to an effectively 2 party system. They've sold out leftism. They're just liberals who bootlick boomer landowners and protectionist oligarchs. It's insane.

So yeah, just Trump. Canadians are super excited to do absolutely nothing about anything ever. It's just all a big pretend show, pathetic.

I love how leftists shit on the working classes when they were the largest bloc throughout history of liberal movements. Identity politics and other woke bullshit really destroyed any vestige of what made the left wing respectable.

I know hardcore anti-Trump leftist friends and classmates of mine from uni who argued that Black Lives Matter appealed to all working classes, white and black while I pointed out that the bankers and execs freaked out after Occupy Wall Street and deliberately focused on DEI to divide and conquer.

moving to the States

Genuinely incredibly difficult if you don't marry an American or work in big tech. If Canadians could just hop over to the US, Canada would probably lose 20% of its population (mainly youth and young professionals) instantly. That's just how bad the economy is in Canada, let alone the jeets.

That's so much bullshit. I'd gladly welcome white Canadians whether Anglo or French in the US. Why the fuck don't we focus on white immigration?

Have you tried voting harder?

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I love how leftists shit on the working classes when they were the largest bloc throughout history of liberal movements.

How so? Do you mean petty bourgeois who live in a corporate socialized bubble 24/7? Those are the liberals running the show. The actual working class tends to be either right wing or left wing in the true sense. Of course the majority of them are also dumb so they get funnelled into voting for the existing liberal status quo, whether it's branded blue or red. Conservative "right wingers" and radically liberal tranny loving "leftists" are all just liberals in denial.

they literally the gauls against Rome we cannot trust the gauls

O Canada!
*bob head*
Our home not native land!
*bob head*
True patriot love in all Sukdeeps Command.
*bob head*
With growing farts we see thee rise,
The True North full of jeets!
*bob head*
From far and wide,
O Canada, we shit on streets for thee.
*bob head*
Brahma keep our land glorious and shitty!
*bob head*
O Canada, we shit on streets for thee..
*bob head*
O Canada, we shit on streets for thee..
*continue head bobbing until music stops*

Scipio understand policy and reciprocal actions

If Canadian youth could easily work in the US the Canadian economy would collapse. The Canadian government would treat it like an act of war. Like developed nation's aren't allowed to poach each other's plebs, unspoken rule.

If housing prices fall the government becomes illiquid because it's triple leveraged into housing debt using pension money. Interest rate to infinity, everything collapses.

Number just go up, and whitoids can’t breed. Indians will save the GDP!

Yeah I mean real leftists, the ones who fought for unions, safe working conditions, etc. Not these pozzed bastards.

I honestly wonder how US liberals would react if we received white Canadian refugees in tens of thousands seeing how they freaked out with just a few dozen Afrikaners? You guys are our neighbors for generations.

Lets be honest, there's no real unions anymore. The majority of unions here are government boomer unions. So we just have a constant layer of baked in mediocrity. Useless boomers, unskilled laborers getting paid upper middle class wages because they can just endlessly strike and backstopped by the tax payer.

Most people also forget that jeets are literally walking across the US-Canada border right now in droves. Things are literally so bad in Canada that they would rather walk across the border illegally to the US than to stay in Canada. Also Canadian citizenship is incredibly easy to obtain and lots of them get Canadian PR through fraudulent strip mall "colleges" run by jeets, then immediately have ranjeet in the US hire them and get a visa for the US green card lottery.

Yeah I know. My great-grandfather in the 50's and 60's had a proper union and raised 3 kids as an industrial laborer. Then the unions sold out in the 70's and 80's. I'm all for the positives of union protection but you're right. My great-grandpa bitched how worthless sacks of shit were protected because "all for one, one for all".

How are you going to block the millions of jeets with proper canadian citizenship though? You can't call them illegals, so there is no reason to bar them that will not piss off your leftists. No matter what orange man can't bar immigrants in because of skin color, you guys are just as fucked.

How would Canadians react if Americans emigrated en masse to build up and invest your country?

English aptitude test + US civics test. You must have fluency in English and understand US law.

RCMP have been informed of your outburst and will be dispatched to eliminate your threat to Canadian peace and harmony. Your estate will be fairly charged for your termination.

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You might not like it but it was the right move.

Did you really just say

You have to lose your job to imported no-skill laborers. Its good for the economy!

How does the economy apply to us if we don't make money?

Are indians really this disingenuous?

That would filter a lot, but thanks to your british brethens most of them know english already, blocking them for their accdent alone is not enough.

US civics

You understimate how relevant your country's politics are worldwide, I know of random Indians who keep track of american politics and law while living somewhere in mumbai. You are for now still the world's superpower so knowing your rules isn't even anything surprising.

There really is no hope unless you just go full mask off, the indiansa will come from your north soon enough

you don't own shit you idiot you are a clown. If the only way to make your "business" profitable is by hiring cheaper people, then society doesn't need your shitty "business

This isn't like Apu passing his citizenship test in the Simpsons. I'm talking about a real in-depth examination of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution to ensure these fuckwits are allowed.

Unlike most people, I will allow a few token non-whites. I'm not going to turn away the high-IQ skilled people that will benefit my country. But they best damned well assimilate and forget about where they originally came from. You want to live in the US? Then be an American. No dual loyalty bullshit.

Their homes are flammable and there's at least 12 per home. Go deport them.

I don't mean a self employed blumpkin with a truck and some tools.

woah there bud way to call me out and half of small business owners

the economy afloat, employing people, paying salaries, corporate ta

fag

we should start flushing indians. make it a tiktok trend. flush an indian head down the toilet

Fuck off poo.

true, this is why im leaving. if you are a canadian you should just form paralell societies away from faglandia (toronto)

post hand rajesh

This is objectively good for Canadians.

it's literally a ponzi scheme and it is good for no one.

stupid faggot

we literally saved the GDP from tanking, housing from collapsing, and going into a full recession? GDP continues to go up.

Uhhh

conservative lead openly throws shit at Trump and says they'll fight him with more tariffs

Trump goes for the cuck that will back down

Cuck wins because conservatives only campaigned on not being castro's bastard

They don't care about you. Migrate north.

Then move to Alberta and tell them to quit yammering and tell Quebec to fuck off.

there was never any good reason to share a country, a language, or the internet with pajeets

I'm like 90% sure this nigga is a bot or just spamming same unfunny shit on Anon Babble

Ever hear of a general thread?

so you like redundancy, or you don't? i'm confused. without redundancy, what are pajeets even for?

unfortunately i am so sorry but pajeet hate threads are the needful. my country amd every country must be made aware of the canadian nightmare before we stand idly by while the same thing is done to us.
this is the future pajeets chose when they estimated themselves worthy of other people's futures

Don't like it? Vote harder next time anon.

NO BRAKES ON THIS POOTRAIN

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POO-CHOOOOO

trains man is hard job saar

no need to visit india, india comes to you

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I am very sorry you are feeling this way saar but canada is my country too now saar. You must be of respecting your fellow canadian saar or i will report you to mr. Trudea saar for anti indian sentiments saar

Indian hate threads are inorganic

at least we get tasty butter chicken tikka masala curry

take the Gagandeepill

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Based gagandeep.
Honorable and proud indians will replace sll you hateful incels

that party looks lit ngl need me a desi kulfi milkers qt3.14

meanwhile whitecucks in the same location:

The ownders of Canada, Australia etc have decided to giga flood them with Indians. In Australia's case the owners of Corporation Australia pty ltd have decided to giga flood the place with Africans, Indians, middle easterns, brown asians, south sea islanders. I guess if they own it they can do what they want hey? We don't generally get to peruse the minutes of their meetings however.

dull grey depressing

Thank vishnu for multiculturalism

sir diversity is our strength, the common wealth has never been stronger eh

50 shades of beige

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you need to revolt and join our brotherhood

Doug Sanders is a seething libtard faggot using revisionist history to justify his own replacement. He needs a place in the gulag

About 3 million temporary workers and students are going to be forced to leave soon. There are Indians protesting about it.

Turned out he was right, though. It's self demonstrating, really.

Only a race bred to be docile faggots could be this docile. It's astounding, honestly.

LMAO

"Your country needs to be flooded with the most abhorrent parasites imaginable because we need to keep letting rich people farm us for cash while we live in squalor!"

Your all going to burn.

I used to work with these guys at Foodbasics for almost a decade. Literally, the vast majority of them are completely incompetent at simple tasks like stacking water bottle packages or simply facing the store. I had to watch them like a hawk every shift to make sure they weren't slacking around or cutting corners. And that's if they know English, which many of them don't.

If you have an Indian store manager, you're in trouble like I was for three years, to the point I went back to college to finish my studies and get a job that didn't involve babying Indians. These Indians are nepotistic as hell and will always hire Indians, no matter what, and how futile it is, even if they're FOB, uneducated monolinguists who speak only Hindi. We had part-time students who told the manager they were able to work full-time despite that not being possible, so they skipped their shifts, and bailed immediately after they got PR and an office job, but still expected to get paid for shifts they didn't even work.

The manager never learned his lesson and kept hiring Indians who don't care about the job and see this as a side hustle, so they skip shifts, ignore tasks given to them, and quit without warning once they get a better offer. Almost every Indian I worked with told me they were going to leave in a couple of months or maybe a year at most because they hate manual labor and don't want to work here, and many of them quit in that time.

I literally don't want to work with any Indian at all anymore, even if they were raised here. The work ethic and motivation of these guys are so subpar that I question the quality of work that comes from Indians now. And this is just groceries, and I can't imagine how they're messing up in more complex industries.

Fucked up

Do you really think the Canadian ruling class fucked up?
Or have then been ass fucking the average Canadian for the last 50+ years?

So? The average Canadian loves taking it up the ass, they get on their knees and beg for more.
ELBOWS UP!

the majority of pajeets on Anon Babble try to hide the fact that they're pajeets. in addition to "leaving that part out" they will proactively, persistently misrepresent their true form. pajeets are all about assuming other people's roles, from today's outsourcing and replacement migration all the way back to thuggee bandits lying to travelers about who they were. pajeets are devoid of their own identity, making them the ideal globalized goyim. they don't want a home where they belong. all that means to them is "compete in squalor." much better to go somewhere nicer, built by other people, and do their jobs for less pay and live slum-barracks life in their suburbs. pajeets don't want to be home. they also don't want to be pajeets. jews know exactly how to play their insecurities and dopey ambitions like the innocent rube fresh off the bus from the cornfield. this is their new golem to replace the ones that don't love them anymore

Diversity is our strength, 2+2 is 5 and I am OK with that SIR! Yes please can I have another! SAAR!

Honestly Australia is even worse than Canada. How do you even tolerate it?

Well yes it is getting very bad here. I don't go out much. But the Jeetening is big time. At this point I suspect Canada is worse but we're comparing train wrecks so...