These are the borders Russia wants, all of the 4 oblasts. I highly doubt they cross the river in Kherson...

Ukraine is practically the definition of a dependent country.

It's impossible. It's like turning Somalia into north Korea. They are at completely different civilized levels and have completely different levels of intelligence.

Ukraine is not capable of either democracy or Autocracy, like Somalia, but only to be someone's whore and do their orders for money and goods.

Was expecting them to take over all of Ukraine, then attempt to invade all of Europe, sparking WW3. But what am I saying, idk why I thought that. Nothing ever happens.

Will it take 200 years to get there? Are the Muslim bulls breeding their wives fast enough?

Europeans are right about Amerisharts. You're all mutts, of course the first thing that comes to your mind is race-mixing, because don't have one of your own to latch onto. Fuck off, mutt.

Also Ukraine has very little oil

They've lost 4 front-line regiments in Donbas, and the situation in Kherson is as yet unknown.

Both kharkov and poltava and under Ukraine control so what are you arguing?

zflag

no, they proved to be resilient. they managed to hold back a "2nd army in the world" ofensive for 4 years and counting

Two more weeks.

Its in the east where Russia is attacking. There really is nothing valuable in the rest of the country.

War is shifting against Russia again for now. We'll see what comes of it.

ok but the leaf nigger was specifically say already under Russian control not just the east

Retard
The Black Sea is full of oil. Mineral rights extend 200 miles off the coast.

They will take all 4 regions by 2080

t. guy that follows the 24-hour news cycle but is completely oblivious to long-term trends

Odessa and Dnipropetrovsk are a must have.
Russia has not won the war before they got them.
That is the war will go on for quite a while.

They dont wanna bomb and destroy cities, but if they want they can and will take whatever as they did Mariupol. Cope

I don't think they do, I think those are cross border incursions to stop Ukrainian cross border incursions, and a negotiation tactic. They'll give up their territory else where for the 4 olbasts.

by 2028

Thats true but it doesn't change much

They desperately want the twin cities in Donetsk, but they're not even fucking close. These fronts have barely changed even during the recent Russian offensives. It might take the rest of the year just to even get to the outskirts of them ffs. Unless they change tactics, demanding the Ukrainians just simply leave as a negotiating tactic is absolutely laughable.

They dont wanna bomb and destroy cities

Retarded level of cope

Mariupol

Was completely encircled, and wasn't even a big city when you compare it to any of Ukraines major cities which people actuslly knew about before the war.
Russia has failed to take and retain a single regional capital in 4 years. They had Kherson and lost it.

Russia has failed to take and retain a single regional capital in 4 years

I don't' even understand what happens here. I think this front line hasn't changed since the very beginning of the war.
Are they even trying to advance? They say they want all of the 4 oblasts, but aren't even trying to take the capital of one of them.

Slavic ain’t human.

Fact

They are trying by all means, just failing

nafoid has gone back to "front doesn't change at all" cope desu

Can you maybe make Russia don't look like Somalia first?

I fucking hate those eurolib freaks. I'm just bored of this conflict and think Trump and his administration is wasting their time dealing with it and risk becoming more involved in this shitshow. Russia should just blitz the remaining areas of the oblasts and hurry the fuck up or take the best deal they can get and fuck off.

Is that what your city looks like?

I think they can and they will.... but only if it's true they have like 100k troops positioned north of the border. If so, they'll likely open a new front in the direction of Kharkiv. That could force Zelensky to pull forces from here and there to stop the advance, giving Russia an opportunity to take advantage of any holes or other weakened spots along the southern front to move in on what's left of Kherson and Zaporizhzhia. This could also play out in reverse order. Either way, I think Russia's got the edge here and can dictate which direction the battlefield moves however they choose at this point.

Mariupol is a big city

I know but it's not a main city of one of the regions.

Lol

Why is Russia so bad at combine arms? Iraq and it's capital was already burning and the nation was occupied in such a short time compared to this.

Were there two continents supplying Iraq with advanced weapons constantly? Was the US sanctioned?

One of the biggest misconception about this war is that Ukraine is NOT some dirty army of desert goat fuckers with random AKs and Toyotas. Before the war they were the 2nd biggest army in Europe (besides Russia) with completely modern arms and supplied by NATO arsenals. Comparing the military adventurism of the 2000s with this is irrelevant.

Is handing over rest of Ukraine to NATO a sound strategy?

To be fair, and to be honest, it already is lol. Might as well take the east.

I think it’s 50k troops amassed near Sumy not 100k.

I guess they'll just have to take it.

2nd army in the world

That was never true it's called a false premise my friend

He's including the troops near Kharkov

It doesn't matter. Russia has the air force and strike missiles to do it. The problem is cucktin in the wheel. He hasn't targeted any serious infrastructure nor has he struck government buildings in kyiv. He should've gaza'd Ukraine already.

Iraq wasn’t getting ATACMS and satellite intel.

while nice for them, winning the borderlands a little faster does not change the overall calculus for Russia.
it's a war of attrition and Ukraine will run out of men first, someday.
Ukraine's Hail Mary play is that in all of this attritional loss they may successfully globalize the war, which no one in the West has an appetite for at present.
Trump may possibly ward off Neo-Cohens for another 3.5 years, but as soon as another muppet gets elected, war is back of the menu.

Trump may possibly ward off Neo-Cohens for another 3.5 years

Lindsey and the rest of the neocucks are already getting uppity and restless

only to be someone's whore and do their orders for money and goods.

You described all slavs.

it's a war of attrition and Vietnam will run out of men first, someday.

it's a war of attrition and Afghanistan will run out of men first, someday.

Please let the Russians keep trying. The Russian humiliation train that left the station in 2022 just keeps on rolling.

2 more years of war at least

they have no choice, anon
it's an existential level threat to them

Vietnam & Afghanistan

in both of those cases, USA ran out of men (that wanted to fight) first

So much for wiping them out in 24 hours???? Russia not stronK???? But you faggots told me in /sg/ for over a decade that Russia stronk and would absolutely fuck up the west???? I guess that's back when Syria was still a Russian puppet, before they had to fuck off LMAO

Burger homunculi, do you remember what happened after the US army destroyed every building taller than 12 feet in Iraq?
Almost a decade of fighting insurgents, losing more soldiers to IEDs than fighting the Iraqi army, and retreating without accomplishing anything.
America didn't even get oil as most fields went to other investors that were more willing to face the risk, that is, Russians, Chinese, some Germans, etc.
If the Russians followed your advice they would become the undisputed rulers of a big pile of rubble full of insurgents, and they can't just fuck off like you guys did because Ukraine is right next to them.

Yes and the Russian economy is better than ever and sanctions are like, not even effecting them lol! Just one more meat wave! One more and the gates of Kyiv will be breeched!!!

sanctions

golly gee, how will they ever survive without hyperinflating green paper?

It would be more accurate to say that the US lost those wars because they lost the will to fight i. e. the combined political and ideological support for the war effort.
You need manpower, supplies and the will to fight to wage war. If you lose one then the other two are quick to follow.

Yes close your eyes and plug your ears. The best thing Russians and chuggies can do is pretend economies don't exist and that they fight this war for free.

How is ‘our neighbors want to join the EU’ an existential threat to them? They have a nuclear deterrent. Are the Nazi Banderites going to use secret Kabbalist blood magic to raise a legion of SS zombies? Let’s face facts. This was a war of imperial nostalgia waged by a decrepit KGB boomer who thought it would be a replay of 2014 and can’t figure out why people would fight to avoid being forced to live in his third world slag heap of a prison masquerading as a country.

two more weeks before russia wins ukraine's hearts and minds

Because Russians have always been terrible at tactical warfare and can only win doing strategic warfare.
Look at what happened to them in 1943 during the Battle of Prokhorovka (during the Kursk Campaign) now that was fucking embarrassing.

Can Russia defeat Ukraine

How fucking retarded are you people
It's like asking if the United States can defeat Greenland.

Shit Anon Babble says:

Novorossiya is the new Khazar kiked homeland, Putin is a Jew.

The Russian military is a Muslim rape machine and the vanguard of the new Muslim incursion into Europe.

Here: Rustem Umerov. Ministry of Defense for Ukraine.

What should I think, King?

No fucking clue. He’s… A Tatar?

How many years would it take the US to defeat Greenland?

Back when they evacuated Kherson before retreating from the city about 90% of the population went to Russia.

these maps don’t mean much long term. we get so good at discovering more deposits over time. or we look in areas that haven’t been looked at yet. remember peak oil?

their war machine is plenty optimized to go indefinitely

China supplies them drones and equipment

North Korea supplies their artillery

Iran supplies proxies that are asymmetrically war with NATO

Pan-Eurasianism is the long-term winning play for each of these countries and they have the surplus production to prove it

manpower, supplies and the will to fight to wage war

those things exist plenty in Russia because of relatively homogenous cultural identity and the fact that they can extract resources from 12 time zones
the existential threat is not quite nukes and biolabs right on their border, it is a competing petro-agrarian state that undercutting its main business
this war makes everything else profitable through scarcity
the existential threat is the loss of that

While the idea of crushing a sovereign state in order to keep an edge in their markets probably was an aspect of this, it can’t be the sole factor. Their biggest customers have always been Europe. Hell, that was the anchor that was giving Moscow the option to not just accept a role as a Chinese province. They completely pissed that away though. Which goes back to my point. There never was a plan for anything after the failure to capture Kyiv. They thought it would be a rehash of 2014 when they rolled in, stole some clay, and patted themselves on the backs while Europe hemmed and hawed and Obama whined at them. They’re going to need to invade Azerbaijan as well at this rate and I really don’t think they can win against king roach. Especially since they lost Syria.

None of that is true lmaoo, absolute nigger tier propaganda. Go ahead and ask me how I know fagget.

it can’t be the sole factor

au contraire, mon frere, this is a currency war masked as a hot war, aka New Cold War
Putin has his own cadre of rich kikes to placate
They are not welcome here in the West already collapsing under the weight of their own kikes.
The undecided question is in which camp are the 3rd world leaders and industrialists going to join?
Neither side looks particularly good, as no one wants their assets frozen like Russia, however committing to fighting off Dollar Hyperinflation is just slavery with extra steps.

they expected to take Kiev in 3 days

That’s a sentence.

Anyways, the Russians knew about Ukraines military buildup, which was the entire justification for the invasion. Russia *hoped* to do a smash and grab. Plan A. Plan A did not work, so they went for Plan B.

The Jews in Europe don’t have the balls to let Poland make a show of force in earnest.

Let me know when Poland has a military parade without niggers or American flags present.

I will be here.

These are the territories the zionists want.

It's the British mandate all over again.

This war is a zionist genocide.

Genocide first, settle later.

It is like Palestine.

all of the 4 oblasts

oblasts

jesus christ no one in the civilised world cares about this 8th world wasteland. fucking glass each other already
THANK YOU!

Russia has been controlling the capitals Luhansk and Donetsk since 2014. What are you smoking nigga?

I don't think they do

For now, sure. But if they keep gaining territory eventually they could change mind.
During the first Istanbul talks they already implied such scenario.
Dnipro is also in danger.

Zaporizhzhia

A big chunk of that area is unlivable swamp.