Why all atheists are midwits?

there are no people in developed world who believe in magic for real anymore. we all know that earth wasn't created in 7 days etc.

modern so called religious people don't "believe" anything and just wearing a religion like a fashion statement (majority of pol), mindlessly following tradition like sheeps or due to enormous peer pressure and bullying.

Because most atheists are white.

Go back to yoir discord and ask; will this actually make them want to worship the dead jew?

Terence Tao

Yeah, I'm going to need a source for this claim, because I looked it up and I found an equally unjustified claim that he was atheist in the comments here: 500questions.wordpress.com/2011/06/19/18-why-does-belief-in-god-decrease-as-intelligence-increases/
And I can't find anything from him personally.
(If I had to guess I would say this whole list doubtful, but Tao is the person I most immediately recognized.)

all atheists

Retard alert

So if I saw with my own eyes something that made me know God was real and it had to do with crosses being formed while I stared in sheer bliss and amazement and I wasn't on drugs how would you live your life from that point on? Being serious

sooooooo the average person is an Atheist??? wtf?

Rick Rosner, QI 192

(((Rosner)))

Early life check;

Although he is not practicing, Rosner identifies as Jewish.

HahahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

It's the default position. Everyone is born an atheist

Sometimes I wonder if posts like this are auto generated to make the site appear active

Idk, why are you a faggot?

These are jewish threads trying to mock and shame us into worshipping Jewsus. I just proved it.

The average person nowadays is a somolian bulb head. This isn't 2001

what a fucking moron. Everyone is born AGNOSTIC. fucking dumb fuck

It's took me a lot to go back and remember as a kid I knew God was real. Maybe I'll soften my heart a little and reach out to him.

Why all atheists are midwits?

Smart people are smart enough to know they don't know everything.
Stupid people realize they don't know everything.
Midwits know more than stupid people, become prideful of their knowledge, and assume that everything they believe is correct because they are smart, and only stupid people believe in God.

Demonstrate a child being born with the knowledge of God or gods. They do t have it. They lack that belief. Which makes them an atheist. Specifically a agnostic atheist

You weren't born with that knowledge. It was taught to you

Jesus lives brother

Everyone is born an atheist

This is not midwit level, it is retard level.

holy fucking shit. i said AGNOSTIC not gnostic. Fucking moron

Joe Rogan, 188 IQ
Donald Trump, 297 IQ
Ben Shapiro, 167 IQ
Tucker Carlson, 133 IQ

I'm going to need a source for this claim

In practice, if not in profession, yes.

The schizos know God is real. Sorry I'm with the state hospital guys who have seen the other side.

See
Learn to read bro

Idiots:

I don't know shit, so I have no choice but to trust God

Midwits:

Scientists say that they can describe the universe, so there must not be a need for god

Geniuses:

I basically don't know shit, science has barely even scratched the surface when it comes to describing the physical world (let alone any other aspect of reality) and still makes lots of random guesses, and the Christian canon has endured over two millenia and only become more convincing after constant analysis and criticism that have never come close to disproving its claims or texts

Most modern intellectfags are massive (((søyience))) enjoyers, you're not going to come out of this looking good anon

Outright admitting Christianity is part of ZOG

Both sides are gay. The correct answer is agnostic. Stop wasting your time arguing about gay shit you fucking fags.

I was given the concept but I knew it was real I just didn't have a name.

The schizos know God is real.

That's why God likes them.
They will take Him at His Word.

Demonstrate a child being born with the knowledge of God or god

someone please explain to this mouth breathing retard what the prefix "a" means A-GNOSTIC = NOT KNOWING.

I was given the concept

Right. Someone else's opinions passed down to you

means A-GNOSTIC = NOT KNOWING.

Which is a lack of belief

Idiot

wrong. a gorilla is not an atheist, a bug is not an atheist, a baby is not an atheist. lack of concept or knowledge is not the same as lack of belief. lack of belief implies knowledge of the concept and choosing to not believe in it. being atheist is a conscious decision.

the Christian canon has endured over two millenia and only become more convincing after constant analysis and criticism that have never come close to disproving its claims or texts

So are we just making up what the Geniuses think now?

wrong

See

I believe that there is a higher power and afterlife but find abrahamic religions to be retarded and even destructive and detrimental to actual spirituality, why my soul agreed and choosed to reincarnate in a world with kikes and billions of christcucks and inbred muzzies?

You have to know about the concept of god to begin with to be agnostic, you aren't born innately with the knowledge of gods.

lack of concept or knowledge is not the same as lack of belief.

Yes it is lol

Strawman

Constant NPC dialogue tree

I see I'm arguing with christcuck midwit. I'll stop wasting my time and move on.

my comment is a direct reply to your statement. an animal or an insect is not an atheist, neither is a baby.

No I was told some people believe God created this world and you can't see him that's when I knew to look inside fuck off kike

This fucking namefaggot in every muh christcuck thread lately kek, legitimately go back to r*ddit you fraud

belief is NOT a tool of KNOWLEDGE. fucking jack ass

My boy Jesus Christ is coming back soon.

many atheists think that because everything with a material explanation has been explained without God, then everything has a material explanation
this is a fallacy
e.g. consciousness has been identified as a hard problem, i.e. not amenable to reductive inquiry; consciousness will never be explained in terms of lower-level facts about the material world

it's not. do you need sources for debates and consensus on this? it's a quick google search but i can provide the information if you need it.

Obviously god doesn't exist. It's 2025. We have basically AI, and you guys still are sticking to bronze-age fables about sky-daddies creating humans from dust? What are you retarded niggers? How in the hell can you still believe this? It's not like the vaccine thing where it's plausible that the mRNA vaccines have side effects that aren't properly tested..

This isn't like that. It's blatantly obvious that for all intents are purposes there isn't a god. Especially not a dead jewish zombie, that wants you to eat his body to live forever. That's some wild shit.
Evolution by natural selection beautifully answers questions like why we are here, and why live is the way it is. Physics answers why the universe is the way it is for the most part. I mean if you even consider religions, they always have some hamfisted attempt at an explanation for natural phenomenon.

"Why is there lightning"

"Oh there must be a guy in the sky that bangs hammers n shit together, and like we have sparks, they have lightning".

It's always some crude explanation, that betrays the unsophisticated and unenlightened mindset of the creator of these ideas. And that's fine if you're living 2000 years ago in a cave somewhere. Maybe that's the best explanation you can come up with. But not in 2025 on the internet man. We're using the sky-daddy's hammer sparks to send encrypted communications to each other across the planet...

If a children don't have the knowledge of God how the child has the knowledge to deny this? Stupid midwit take.

If you commit blasphemy of the holy Spirit with a Bible in your hand because you are mad at God for having an unforgivable sin you will go running for the book and when you open it it will say you are the holy Spirit but I will forgive you if you repent.

neither is a baby.

Babies have zero knowledge of God or gods. That by defining is lacking belief. Now when they're taught religion then they can make an active decision to accept or reject or withhold until sufficient evidence convinces them

can't form an argument

Kek

belief is NOT a tool of KNOWLEDGE

How would you believe in something you didn't know about?

my cat is not an atheist.

It is

what about animals and insects do you define them as being atheist? why or why not?

God is not an explanation. It's entirely possible to recognized that certain things haven't been explained or to even hold the position that certain things can't be explained without retreating to "God" as an "explanation."

Inek

Sure he is pal.

Lack of belief isn't denial. Disbelief is denial

Only a true believer can do it and I said fuck the holy Spirit at 13 and had suck bad deja vu it felt like I had been here a million years I went running to the Bible. Then it stopped and I was left with those words.

abrahamic religions all root from the same Canaanite polytheist tribal shit. Yahweh was part of a pantheon with El, Asherah (his wife), Baal and Anat. Apparently there was also a god of death Mot but Anat killed him or something. It's an ancient mythology not unlike any other. The whole idea of taking just one God to represent everything came from Canaanite exposure to Zoroastrians. They then went and retconned their god family to all just be one now. This is why Israel, "the rule of El" actually isn't named after Yahweh. Shouldn't it "Yahweh's Kingdom" or whatever? Because El was a fucking different guy, the leader of the council of gods. The entire thing presented to as >it's holy an infallible because, because it just IS okay!?!? Is pure bullshit.

The average Christian doesn't know that Yahweh has a history as rich and real as the fucking marvel cinematic universe and actually God had a wife and Baal is "a demon" only because he and Yahweh were both storm gods and I guess the ancient proto gods got into a Batman vs Superman fight about which one was cool enough to get upgraded in the lore as all powerful. Many things you see in the old testament is retconned stories all now rebranded as Yahweh's Adventures. So what does that make Jesus? IMO not even really of the same god the Jews worship. Shit is all fake and fucked, not worth wasting time and energy on besides to learn it just to geek out over ancient legends shit.

youtube.com/watch?v=mdKst8zeh-U

Of 10 highest IQ’s on earth, at least 8 are Theists, at least 6 are Christians

eternalvigilance.nz/2014/07/of-10-highest-iqs-on-earth-at-least-8-are-theists-at-least-6-are-christians-examiner-com/

Wtf why did it post. Yeah none of you are even remotely fucking intelligent or honestly very religious. Someone with a high IQ that subscribed to christianity would probably actually read the fuckin bible and realize they are practicing apocalyptic judaism and stop being antisemitic, or stop being christian

what about animals and insects do you define them as being atheist?

Can they communicate to humans like a baby learns to do?

you can't and this is why belief is a retarded nothing thing. you are making my point and too retarded to see it holy kek
if you know about it, it isn't belief, it's KNOWLEDGE.
retarded namefag says not knowing something is the same as not believing in something.

Says the faggot that fell for a tranny psyops

You're a fraud namefaggot
Go post on TikTok like a woman if you need so much special attention

high IQ

religious

kek

atheism

crypto jew

pick both

atheist circles are 50% ex jew. they love criticizing christianity but look at all the moles when you start criticizing judaism. now I just say that I don't believe in god and if they specifically ask about atheism, I inform them about this psyop.

you are avoiding the question. answer it or concede.

Two years tops.
You just wait and see kikefaggot.

if you know about it, it isn't belief

I know about the tooth fairy. I dont believe in it

says not knowing something is the same as not believing in something.

It's a lack of belief

You seriously think reddit onions idiots are "crypto jews" but not people who worship the jewish god and follow the ten jewish commandments given by god to his chosen jew, moses

If someone was smart, they would agree with me and my appeal to ridicule from a genetic fallacy!

If someone were smart they'd call you retarded.

you are avoiding the question

Nope. I'm demonstrating that I don't know what animals do or don't believe because they can't communicate that

He got filtered

Go back newfag.

No, if someone were smart AND christian (you are neither, you are a contrarian idiot who is essentially the r/atheism idiot in his next form, e christian larper) they would probably study the religion they believe in, and realize that the emotional conceptions they have about the world do not conform to said religion whatsoever

are ants atheists? yes or no?

good, because knowing is not the same as BELIEF because belief is NOT a tool of knowledge. thank you for proving my point, moron. read this over:

belief is a retarded nothing thing

I can confirm the OPs graph, I am very smart and I am religious

Filtered by what? The bible? Which part did I miss? The part where Jesus calls goyim dogs or the part where he says you need to let women cheat on their husbands?

I don't know

knowing is not the same as BELIEF

It leads to either belief, disbelief or lack of belief until more knowledge is present

you are specifically avoiding the question whether or not animals are atheist because they lack belief. you can't ask a baby anything, you can't ask an animal anything. neither is capable of speech at that moment. so by your definition they are atheist, correct?

its actually not an iq thing, its a pride thing, although iq is correlated. dumb people know they are dumb and are okay with being wrong. smart people know so much that they know they will never know everything. the midwits are pumped full of pride because they memorized a few text books and got As in school. schooling in general is really bad for you, it brainwashes them into thinking they are intellectually and morally superior when they submit to authority

God is an explanation, just not a testable one
testable (and tested) explanations are invariably stronger

if consciousness is not a byproduct of life*, then it is not indifferent to life
this makes me suspect there is a creator

see: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_problem_of_consciousness

he doesn't attend church

you are neither, you are a contrarian idiot who is essentially the r/atheism idiot in his next form, e christian larper

You're a coping niggerfaggot, and I'm sure you'll grow out of your teenage years soon.

and realize that the emotional conceptions

This. What is this? What is this statement? This is the shit I'm talking about, and it's been the same since the New Atheist movement. You faggots just toss terms together hoping to appear profound but just look insanely stupid when someone stops to apply some basic comprehensive reading. What the fuck is "emotional conceptions" to a religion? It's how someone feels, would that not be the most logical assumption? Googling it just gives a bunch of pregnancy shit, so it's clearly not a lapse in my judgment, it's just you trying to validate "this makes me feel bad" as an objective point.
Fuckin' midwit.

jewish atheism is a sanctioned orthodoxy

You get a 50% chance that you're talking to a rabbi atheist

LMFAO
All animals believe in our boi Jesus Christ.

so how is a baby atheist then?

you are specifically avoiding the question

Nope. Can animals communicate their beliefs to you?

you can't ask a baby anything

Until they learn to talk to you

It just too straight forward and not spiritual enough for people. We are like the tiniest percentage of humanity as far as beliefs go.

well reporting anon.
imagine every poster being this efficient

Your kike rabbi savior isn't coming back, sis.

Because they lack belief in God or gods

no it doesn't.

A belief is a subjective attitude that a proposition is true or a state of affairs is the case.

that's right, ergo NOT-KNOWING (Agnostic) is NOT the same as not believing or atheism as you have incorrectly demonstrated.
another way of putting it would be, belief = I don't know, but, I'm going to pretend that I do, because feelings.

but not while they can't, and at which point you have stated that all humans are born atheist. so by your logic all animals are also atheist, correct?

Because atheism is peak midwittery

aha you can't PROVE that life has meaning!

But yes there's the low end where everything is Jesus and things like angels and such are someone else's problem. Then there's the high end where you've done some digging and realize more might be going on.
But if you could convince people, why would you? People would just hate you. Just go up to a Anon Babble poster and remind them that they're no better than a black person if they're just leeching off of society while trying to stir up violence. Most people hate being challenged and then they find themselves unfulfilled. That's their fault.

You got word filtered, newfag. You're an offsite shill that's only hear to spread a psyops perpetrated by literal trannies and literal jews.
The whole "christianity is jewish" argument has been debunked so many times on this site, yet you faggots keep arguing the exact same thing every single day until you're blue in the face. And then you wonder why we slowly start to hate you.

swell*

Cope thread?

The whole "christianity is jewish" argument has been debunked so many times

No it hasn't lmfao

Troon malding

Do you actually seriously even think you're christian? Like do you walk around and imagine there is a being the size of the universe just watching you and talking to you? Why are you on this fucking site arguing and being blasted with weird bbc porn and anti christian propaganda then? Why are you not shoveling a new garden for your local homeless nigger or better yet washing his feet?

You know the answer, and I do too. Christianity is a religion of weakness and meekness and you pretend to subscribe to it simply because you think it differentiates you from the plebeians. The actual tenets of it disgust you and you do not act them out or live with them in your heart. Stop seething about how I used a word too big for you and listen to what i have to say young confused angry man

christcuck

shitskin

babbling about other people being midwits when he worships a dead jew and a made up jewish god

I see the christcuck shills are changing up their approach because lying and gaslighting us into believing in their jewish fairytales didn't work.

which animals also lack belief so they are also atheist right? you cannot talk with a baby but they still have a lack of belief in God, which as you say makes them atheist. you cannot talk with animals but they also lack belief in God, which makes them atheist as well.

Yes it has, and you would know that if you used this site long enough to not get word filtered.
Don't bluff if you're going to get caught in a newfag filter.

why do they make benzoiazapine tablets taste sweet sweeter than pussy?

See

Like do you walk around and imagine there is a being the size of the universe just watching you and talking to you? Why are you on this fucking site arguing and being blasted with weird bbc porn and anti christian propaganda then?

I can't even blame atheists. They're smart enough to clue in where Christianity presented in it's most blatant form is absolutely bonkers.

It's kind of a silly take anyway. Even if you believed in nothing, why would you waste time, something you believe is finite and never going to happen again, militantly defending it?

I have used this website for a depressingly long time and can even remember pol before the pretend christian wave started. I honestly believe it was because thedonald reddit idiots came and were literally christian and gave you morons the idea.

Jesus christ derives his divinity from his claim that he is david (the jewish king) come back to life.

Yes it does

ergo NOT-KNOWING (Agnostic) is NOT the same as not believing.

Not believing is an active choice. Lack if belief stems from not having knowledge,mand in this case esoteric knowledge

but not while they can't

Because they have to be taught. Just like they're taught about the knowledge of God or God's

so by your logic all animals are also atheist, correct?

Sure

newfag doesn't know how IDs work

You don't even know what a roody poo candy ass is baby girl, lower your tone when talking to me about filters.

you cannot talk with animals but they also lack belief in God

How do you know?

because its either god or simulation.
the midwits believe this hylic jewish universe

Have you not read the fucking bible dude? Jesus literally washed other mens feet and gave food to random homeless niggers. What imaginary idea of jesus do you people actually seriously have? What do you think he was? Let me go find the coldsteel christ meme because its all i can see when this topic comes up

ah so you have decided that ants are atheist and babies are also atheist. thank you for your concession.

The whole "christianity is jewish" argument has been debunked so many times on this site,

this, but replace "debunked" with "confirmed"

The Jews changed the Bible. Alot of it at least. We know Jesus was kind.

how do you know a baby that cannot speak or communicate is atheist?

even bugs are too smart to believe in my god

This was your big moment?

All I'm saying is jew-god nuked a city for wanting to rape an angel, then watched the only man free of sin be raped by his daughters in a cave.

ah so you have decided that new born ants are atheist

Ftfy and yes.

why the fuck are you debating if ants are atheist or agnostic?
thread absolutely fucking derailed

take a step back and ask yourself
"does this post actually look like it's disagreeing with me?"

no it was yours. the reveal of your impenetrable logic on atheism and belief. thanks again.

When you abandon internal monologue, school system become daily ramen
Atheism is goyslop for the dysgenic masses

Because all religion is taught. This is proven by geographic location. Depending on where you're born will then determine which god or gods you're taught

Not believing is an active choice

Lack if belief stems from not having knowledge,mand in this case esoteric knowledge

which one do babies fall under?

another newfag who doesn't know how IDs work

Kek. Sorry christxister, but that was a horrible gotcha.

Christ is King

Morons slavishly adhere to religion, midwits notice that most lay religion is bullshit, and the truly intelligent realize that plebs need religion and that there are spiritual truths that underpin most religions. That said the plebs simply need "a religion" not necessarily "your religion".

I've been through this already

Jews literally wrote the bible. Every single gospel besides Luke was authored by a jew. Is your claim that there is a secret bible you and nobody else has read where jesus actually says he hates jews and niggers?
Yes, you are assuming that I don't know the deep esoteric cool parts of christianity that you do, and that I am simply viewing the zogged cuck fake version da evil joos created.

Pretty much but you shouldn't be calling yourself truly intelligent.

Yeah, King of the JEWS (and possibly niggers)

refuses to answer.

I accept your concession

Of jews

Nope. You're desperate for a gotcha and.its not working

Sorry duder

Nah I think it's retarded that some minority of people sit in a Church and hear about eternal punishment and eternal life and shit and then just go back to business like normal as if none of it was fucking real.
To me it looks like Christians don't believe, they don't really act like they do. Also there's nothing esoteric to Christianity, they hate that shit.

You're a tripfag and you're using the name "rapebrah". I'm going to doubt literally everything you say, frankly.

Wrong. There are christians everywhere in the world, even in China and India.

Jews literally wrote the bible

Encyclopedia Americana (1985):

"Khazar, an ancient Turkic‑speaking people who ruled a large and powerful state in the steppes North of the Caucasus Mountains from the 7th century to their demise in the mid‑11th century A.D...In the 8th Century it's political and religious head...as well as the greater part of the Khazar nobility, abandoned paganism and converted to Judaism...(The Khazars are believed to be the ancestors of most Russian and Eastern European Jews)."

“Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860 — (Encyclopedia Judaica 1971 Vol 10:23)

Under the heading of “A brief History of the Terms for Jew” in the 1980 Jewish Almanac is the following: “Strictly speaking it is incorrect to call an Ancient Israelite a ‘Jew’ or to call a contemporary Jew an Israelite or a Hebrew.” — (1980 Jewish Almanac, p. 3)

The Jewish religion is from the Pharisees. The Talmud is the most important member of that literature. — (Universal Jewish Encyclopedia, Volume 8, page 474)

“No one can deny that the Jews are a most unique and unusual people. That uniqueness exists because of their Edomite heritage. You cannot be English Jews. We are a race, and only as a race can we perpetuate. Our mentality is of Edomitish character, and differs from that of an Englishman. Enough subterfuges! Let us assert openly that we are International Jews.”

— (Manifesto of the “World Jewish Federation,” January 1, 1935, through its spokesperson, Gerald Soman)
archive.is/XFH29

i already accepted your concession. move on retard

so again, just to get this clear, your stance is that babies are atheist in the same way a bug or other animal is atheist. that a lack of concept proves lack of belief. a spider is atheist the same way a baby is atheist. this is your belief, correct?

nigga said concession three times in a row you move on dawg

Yeah maybe im confusing you with somebody else, idk. Those christians sitting in church are 50x less retarded than any of the idiots trying to proselytize on this site though lol they are at least following their jewish scriptures rules

They’re lost souls who comfort themselves by thinking they know everything. Many people go from being atheist to knowing there is a God, the more they experience in their lives. Even Thomas doubted that Christ was risen until he had it to see it for himself.

Wrong

Nope. Demonstrate a child born in the North Sentinel Island that is a Christian..

You won't find one because it's not taught to them. They don't have knowledge of that

Yahweh was originally a Canaanite storm god before the monotheistic cult of Judaism was founded. Moloch is a misspelling of Melek, which means "King" and was one of the titles that the ancient Jews used to refer to Yahweh.
Sorry, Christoid, but you are just as "satanic" as the Jews and Muslims.

In the Bible it tell you to fuck off back to the ants if you feel that way bruh look it up

506252630

What did I concede to exactly?

((they)) begged to replace “king of the joos” with “proclaimer of king of the joos”

pontius pilate somehow declined in shockingly based fashion

How the fuck do you actually not know this? Why do you think jesus celebrated a PASSOVER SEDER prior to his execution that he supposedly knew about? His last action was to engage in the jewish equivalent of fucking 4th of july dude

I accept your confession

They're proud. You don't have to be smart to find God but you *do have to be humble.

your stance is that babies are atheist in the same way a newborn bug or other newborn animal is atheist

Ftfy

who made God?

your religion is Jewish!

why God allow bad stuff?

all their arguments are stupid and wrong.
enjoy hell, athetits!

my goldfish is not an atheist.

You know nothing dude, North sentinel receives help from the Indian government, they are not isolated as you think. And yes, there are Christians everywhere in the world.

Christian hubris knows no bounds.

They never got recognition for being the 4th or 5th smartest kid in class. They also had bad or no fathers without fail. They want to attack Christianity to feel smart, but they aren't the smartest so it regresses to the mean which is their fathers hurt them growing up so every complaint is an emotional hurt poorly camoflauged as a intelligent questioning. The missing or poor fathering is white man's 13/50.

I don't want my goldfish to be an atheist.

Ftfy

christian retardaion knows no bounds

t.

adl.org/resources/backgrounder/christian-identity

Khazar theory was pushed by jews to stake a claim in eastern Europe so they could LARP as "fellow Europeans" in hope of reducing anti-semitism.

Jews began to call themselves Hebrews and Israelites in 1860

The quote is incorrect, and is deliberately out of context to mislead that Jews are "admitting" they "stole" the hebrew/israelite identity in 1860.

Here is the full context:
This relationship helped to establish the pejorative meaning of the word "Jew" in popular usage. The noun could mean "extortionate usurer, driver of hard bargains." while the verb was defined as "to cheat by sharp business practices, to overreach." Many attempts to root out these derogatory meanings by having the dictionary definitions revised have been made in the United States, England, and Europe but have, however, met with little success, since the problem is not one of ill-will on the part of the lexicographers, but rather of semantics and popular usage. In order to avoid the unwelcome associations and connotations of the word, Jews began in the 19th century to call themselves

sure, history’s rewritten. breaking news, what are you and what do you believe in in this entire thing? name dropped a few religions there, speakers yours

It's obvious alot was changed or it would have been Jesus stomping Jews all day. King of Jews for a reason. God is real iv seen it.

what is the difference if the ant is a baby or not? what variables or potential are you eluding to?

North sentinel receives help from the Indian government

That's irrelevant they know nothing about Christianity

there are Christians everywhere in the world

Correct. That's not the argument

Misuse of The Jewish Almanac 1980

"Strictly speaking, it is incorrect to call an ancient Israelite a "Jew" or to call a contemporary Jew an "Israelite" or a "Hebrew."

The point of this chapter titled "Identity Crisis" is to do a deep dive on the complex history of these words and their
changing meaning over time. By only including the first sentence, this quote is attempting to present this as an admission of stolen identity, but upon further reading it becomes clear it is going over the complex etymology of these word's meanings. The chapter lays out some distinctions:

Hebrew:
"Hebrew" came to be the designation of the language of the Bible, and so in general for the postbiblical Hebrew language. The Hebrew language had begun as a north-west Semitic dialect, influenced by the immigration of Aramaic-speaking ancestors of the Jewish people. It is as a term for the classic and universal Jewish language that "Hebrew" is most Jewish[...]Because of the occasional biblical references to Israelites as "Hebrews," the term became a normal alternative for "Jew" throughout the Middle Ages and in modern times. It has occasionally been preferred by Jews themselves as a euphemistic term for "Jew,"

Israelite
Jews are principally called "Israelites" in the Bible [bene Yisraei, "children of Israel") because of their descent from Jacob who, at a major turning point in his career, was re-named by God Yisraei ("He who fights God")[..] Israelite," like "Hebrew," became a common synonym for "Jew" throughout post-biblical history down to modern times, with perhaps less adaptability to pejorative usage than the other terms.

what is the difference if the ant is a baby or not?

Because I don't know what esoteric knowledge they learn as it gets older. Do they learn like humans do or is it just instincts?

christkike identity

Cuck religion that posits that Adam was a White man and Eve cheated on him with satan disguised as a nigger, resulting in Adam raising the mixed race spawn.

What I can't troll a bit? Don't be a faggot. I'm serious about the god being real thing.

t. kike

...it's an ant? oh are the trees atheists now? is a leaf an atheist?

Christian identity is flatly as retarded and insane as hebrew israelite nonsense. The jewish scripture (what you think is called the old testament) has specific descriptions of what it assumes is the progenitor of whites, "Japheth". Not Shem, but Japheth. They are both sons of Noah. Shem is the father of the Semites, including Jews, and Japheth is the father of the europeans, maybe including you but probably most likely you are mexican

Again, if any of you idiots ever read the jewish story book you pretend to love so much, you would learn a lot.

gotquestions.org/Shem-Ham-Japheth.html

Not one of you actually care about religion as spirituality. You're just here to try and play some cultural game of Capture the Flag with religion because you think that it will, somehow, make people bend to your will politically.

the bacterium living on my skin is not an atheist.

You're christkike identity, your whole LARP is that you're the kike. Post your tefillin, "israelite"

Is trolling and the name "rapebrah" pleasing to God?

...it's an ant?

Based what was taught to you

oh are the trees atheists now?

Don't know. Ever talk to one and it talks back?

The earliest biblical manuscripts we have are ridiculously close to their time of writing and are ironically some of the most definitely sound examples of ancient writing that we have access to

Until you can prove they believe in any deity, yeah. Just semantically true.

are amoeba atheists? they lack belief and cannot communicate.

No that is why it's pleasing to me. Most things done to please God are sacrificial

and cannot communicate.

To you

Yes amoeba are smarter than you.

kikes seething ITT over North Europeans, the most successful, innovative, incentive, and talented of races being the descendants of the Chosen, rather than a race of edomic khazak mutt parasites who have failed to maintain even a semblance of civility.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

I think muslims literally believe all inanimate objects are consciously muslim. Idk if christians do. There is at least one funny hadith i am aware of in regards to this

"The Day of Judgement will not come about until Muslims fight the Jews, when the Jew will hide behind stones and trees. The stones and trees will say O Muslims, O Abdullah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him. Only the Gharkad tree, (the Boxthorn tree) would not do that because it is one of the trees of the Jews."

Why are you on this fucking site arguing and being blasted with weird bbc porn

You only experience BBC shit if you use porn threads or Anon Babble, so that's a really weird projection.
Now I did get you mixed up with that other faggot, pardon the lapse as two idiots making absolutely dogshit posts with green tags is easy to get mixed up, but you're over here getting word filtered, which is telling me that you're some absolute newfag that came here for the porn, crossed over here, and decided to start acting like you used this site before Trump was elected.

You know the answer, and I do too.

I know you're a schizophrenic dipshit.
I also know you're here to repeat anti-white buffoonery disguised as skepticism from the same breed of neckbeard atheism that gave way to the troon movement.

Israelites were gay pedokikes, you should stop reading so much torah. Post tefillin, let's see if you're a real "israelite."

Then I have even less a reason to trust your faith in God. You're not even trying.

According to the jewish scripture you are trying to ape, you are not a child of shem, as abraham and his tribe were, and are not "Chosen" by any metric

niggers are in cahoots with jews/satan, White people are in cahoots with God

vice versa, more precisely

Like I said I did the blasphemy of the holy Spirit thing and it said I am the holy Spirit ten years later I went running to that book when the deja Vu started. Only a true believer would be mad at God for making that the unforgivable sin

???? wtf lol thanks for sharing

See Broken bot.

It's funny how shills seem to argue until they're blue in the face that jews actually are the descendants of the Hebrews.
But they're totally antisemetic guise.

"Ants are atheists" -- Ghost of Mesa

source: dude trust me

Meanwhile an actual meta analysis of 83 studies shows a strong inverse correlation between religiosity and intelligence.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0146167219879122

so your answer is yes, amoeba are atheists. along with the bacteria, dust mites, trees and grasses, ants, etc. all are atheists.

Oy vey, whites aren't the chosen people, WE are!

t. totally an organic antisemetic Anon Babble user.

Seething this hard over false jews claims

Why are you defending the ADL's stance on this?
Why do you defend the jews and their lies?

Redditspacer hears "midwit"

>Nuh uh, because correlation!

Ya but God is still real. I have some work to do on myself but I can have a little fun

Oh here we go lol

Demonstrate how esoteric knowledge applies to them

Is this like your fourth time on pol? I feel like you might be AI or something. This place is inundated with nigger dicks

I will take your refusal to accept the objective words of the new testament as true and declaration that they are the results of schizophrenia to mean that you really arent a christian and this is just a stupid larp you dont even believe in LOL
How does your brain actually reconcile that you are debating the contents of the jewish holy scriptures and what they say so that you can claim you are actually a jew and get the magical reward jews claim they are going to get?
My girlfriend is christian and i spend a ridiculous amount of time reading the bible with her, probably unironically 10x more than you do because i get my dick sucked afterwards

jeez luise idf workin overtime rn

Your kike rabbi is never coming back, eunuch.
The ADL believes the (((torah))) is a factual book, just like (((You))). Post tefillin.

I was raised atheist but since some months ago I got a bit interested in near death experiences and spirituality so im currently between deciding between these two positions
1) we are souls experiencing human bodies with the goal of learning and growing with each encarnation
2) we are trapped on this prison earth and tricked into reincarnating into this shithole planet so entities can fed off our energy and negative experiences and emotions

It's sabbath for them retard only bots today

Is this like your fourth time on pol?

pol

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself, newfag.

i just want to make sure i understand your position. that you believe bacteria and nanobes are atheist.

This is a reasonable idea but trying to pretend that a random group of desert peoples war god who orders them to slice their own and everyone elses foreskins off is probably the creator of the universe is the silliest way to go about it for sure
It seriously is so fucking funny to have christians of all people try to say this shit. This website was a reddit level atheist faggot zone until like 2019, which you would know if you had ever used it prior to then...

oh shit retard kike expose’s himself?

i ate 3 carnitas (fried pork) tacos earlier. lime, onion, cilantro. fucking delicious

people often confuse this, but there is a difference between believing in abrahamic depiction of god(s) and street magic of gospels, and believing in some abstract creator of universe.

believing in 2nd doesn't make you a christian or even a religious person. religion, in a nutshell, is a creation myth that explains forces of nature as anthropomorphic deities.

The average midwit in the world is still very much religious dumbass. Your meme is a cope.

i just want to make sure i understand your position

I don't think you're being genuine about it

that you believe bacteria and nanobes are atheist.

I dknt apply that label to them because atheism is the disbelief or lack of belief esoteric knowledge aka God or gods.

Do you know what esoteric means? Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people

Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

belief esoteric

Belief in* esoteric

LMFAO the christcuck spammer is an actual beaner and not even hiding it.

carnitas (fried pork for you white people)

but you said the baby ant was an atheist.

Hey faggot. Are you afraid of being wrong?

I used to be part of Mensa, and the entire organization is basically just Anon Babble. A forum for high intellect underachievers to shitpost and bait one another all day. And a solid third of the forums were Christians vs atheists having literally the exact same arguments here.

Somehow it is lost on them that 90% of actual practicing christians are coal dark niggers or south americans who live in constant proximity to rape and gang murders

if you don't believe that forces of nature are caused by gods, you're not a religious person. simple as.

I did, to play along with they hypothetical but if you're being genuine then I want to move away from hypotheticals

This sounds hilarious . my grandpa was in mensa and would play like 8 games of chess through the mail with other autists

No?

as an atheist don't you believe in science? is that why you've changed your position because i bought up amoeba and bacteria?

I want any lurkers present to acknowledge their engagement of me, their negativity
Their malice
This is how 99% of shills operate.
They aren't here trying to find commonality amongst anons noticing the jew
Nah, it becomes clear the long you observe their behavior in comparison to the ones they attack and attempt to "alienate" from a board which main discourse is of the jewish question.
They try to paint the enemies of jewry as the enemy you should attack first.
They would rather you set upon your brother or neighbor, than upon a synagogue.
They make vague promises on what their goals will bring
15 years
20 years
90 years.
They try to deradicalize you by turning you against a white religious majority
They would have you fight a battle to wipe out an entire religion(that comprises of majority white populations, and almost no "jews") rather than the talmudics
They give themselves over to hostility that they truly feel for you, and this board
Just observe them
Do they act like someone willing to defend you and your neighborhood from hordes, or do they curse you for not hating your white neighbor over a cross on his door or whatever he may believe?

you’re almost there, you just have to find the connection
the weird part about God (and our own sexuality) is the deviation from the love he created. Sex is a strange trick on the warmth of life and love itself, as it involves a strong arm of deviancy. .

as an atheist don't you believe in science?

No and science has nothing to do with atheism

is that why you've changed your position because i bought up amoeba and bacteria?

What did I change exactly?

the baby ant is an atheist in the same way the baby human is an atheist: lack of belief. how is either different from the other? saying that the baby grows up to communicate or understand theism is the same thing as saying it decides to be an atheist.

Save and share

Here's some of the shit the "israelites" were doing

ritual circumcisions

lighting menorahs

wearing tefillin

wearing tzitzit

killing and raping children they captured after combat

stealing foreskins from corpses

sacrificing babies to moloch

celebrating passover, hannukah, and purim

eating kosher

Why don't you do any of this, idiot? Are you a fake israelite? Go take your heritage back from the synagogue of satan, christxister.

No offense but im here to talk to white people about the religion they follow, not you. It sounds like christianity is helping you control your homosexual urges though so congratulations

What if I’m a midwit Christian thoughbeit.

then answer the fucking question you fucking moron. if you're not afraid of being wrong
what did you mean by this?

when you said the baby bug was atheist. but you changed it i guess. because it's hypothetical? in the same way saying a baby is atheist is hypothetical?

As I said I'm moving away from hypotheticals

all me

so how is the baby bug different from the baby human? they're both atheist, by your definition and logic: lack of belief.

Nope. You're desperate for a gotcha and.its not working

if you're not afaid of being wrong, why did you say that, you dumb homo

then answer the fucking question

You mean the one I've already answered? If not then ask it specifically again

because it's hypothetical?

Yes. Because as I've explained

I dknt apply that label to them because atheism is the disbelief or lack of belief esoteric knowledge aka God or gods.

Do you know what esoteric means? Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people

Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

so how is the baby bug different from the baby human?

I dont apply that label to them because atheism is the disbelief or lack of belief in esoteric knowledge aka God or gods.

Do you know what esoteric means? Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people

Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

Has no argument against my statement just mindless jewish schizoid ramblings

LMAO

Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people. Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

explain why this is relevant to the baby at the present moment, not in the future. and why does that make the baby different from bugs or bacteria.

This website was a reddit level atheist faggot zone until like 2019,

t.

It wasn't, newfag. If you were here before 2019 you wouldn't have gotten caught by the filter and you wouldn't be calling it "pol."

fellow white

prove it

Rallying cope

which you've added at the very end of this thread once i brought up bacteria being atheist. because you know it's a ridiculous paradigm. babies cannot be anything, they have no concepts or knowledge.

IQ is a meme. Stop being retarded.

explain why this is relevant to the baby at the present moment

Maybe you should read what came bedore that. Also, Please look up what esoteric means.

I can't explain it any more simply than I have

has nothing

Why do kikes get so mad and engaging when I bring up Christian Identity and the fact that it's obvious that white northern nations were the most favored by God?
The ADL has an entire page dedicated to seething about it
Why would anyone on this board defend their side of the argument so vehemently?

LMAO yes it was dude pol was fucking MIGAZONE for like probably 4-5 years and there only started being christian retards in the end of that phase, right around when the_nigger got banned. This was actually a comfy place to be in 2016 with some positive energy if you can fucking believe it. I feel like you are trolling at this point
You aren't my fellow white. You're mexican
What am I coping with? The fact that most christians are brown?

because you know it's a ridiculous paradigm

Hence why I said to my away from the ridiculous hypothetical

they have no concepts or knowledge.

Which means they lack it. They lack the belief. They are atheist

truth

i asked a question: why is your definition relevant to the distinction of atheism in babies vs bugs in the present moment, not in the future when a baby grows up and chooses their ideology?

youtube.com/watch?v=r0IocMCkatk

Most people are religious therefore religion is the philosophy of midwits

MIGAZONE

You have to go back

but your position is that babies are atheist, are you saying that's a ridiculous position to have?

Alright, I've never had this conversation before but I'll give it a shot: I'm an atheist. Substantiate god for me, please.

why is your definition relevant to the distinction of atheism in babies vs bugs in the present moment,

And I've explained it to you already

>I dont apply that label to them because atheism is the disbelief or lack of belief in esoteric knowledge aka God or gods.

>Do you know what esoteric means? Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people

>Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

God doesn't exist because there's no evidence of such existence.

No, I'm saying the hypothetical about animals was

why is that relevant to a baby versus a bug? is the answer because a baby is "people"?

I don't watch YouTube
Make a statement in your own words and validation or fuck off Polly with your crackers

Haha been saying 2 years for like 2000 years now. He ain't coming back. But worse than that. He was never real in the first place.

Christianity is based in scholasticism

This gay effeminate emotional appeal doesn't work, it just makes people realize that when you call yourself an israelite you're a dirty fucking jew and that's why you argue how you do.

and you know i'm going to ask: when does a baby become a "people"?

is the answer because a baby is "people"?

Yes. And esoteric knowledge is a people thing

el gringo de baddo

keep making my tacos spic. so good.

well then
mental gymnastics are so tiring.

When it took to people to make it. Is it at conception? Or heart best? Or when it gains consciousness?

Have you ever heard the term "kek"? That's what retards here were pretending was their god instead of rabbi yeshua back then. But they were at least able to admit it was a retarded joke to own da libs. You werent around to experience meme magic and now that im realizing that i just feel bad for you
Lmao this nigger did the reddit

carnitas (fried pork)

thing and is still trying to pretend hes white

believing a (((goldstien)))

Suppose that is fitting for someone who believes in jewish fairytales and worships a dead rabbi

It's masculine to defend jewish claims to identity that only began over the last century!

Anyone? Anyone at all?

mental gymnastics

That's all you dude. You're playing in the special Olympics while I'm just chilling on the swing

i'm asking you that. which is it? when does the baby meet your criteria to support your definition of lack of concept or knowledge means lack of belief?

That's what retards here were pretending was their god instead of rabbi yeshua back then.

Good lord, it's an r/Anon Babble migrant.
Go back you filthy newfag before I dig out mydead laptop and start dumping gamergate shit.

lack of concept or knowledge means lack of belief?

How can you have a belief or any kind of position on something you have no knowledge of?

kek

dream about being white

(it won’t work):

Do you in your heart of hearts actually think I wasn't posting on this board as a 15 year old in 2015 on the bus to school? Are you just one of the new 15 year olds? That would actually be kind of based
I can guarantee that your eyes aren't blue

you won't answer my question: when does the baby become a "people" and therefor an atheist?

no you dont understand we wuz da real joos

nevermind northern europeans were completely unknown in the region at the time of biblical events

nevermind they had no genetic ties to the region either

we wuz da real jews tho

Any cope to defend worshipping s dead rabbi, holy shit lmao

The real question is why you're a faggot torah hunter. IDF soldiers read torah scrolls on the graves of dead kids, that shit has nothing to do with my ancestors.

any day now....

you won't answer my question

I just did.

when does the baby become a "people"

I don't know. They are human ar conception. But a person? Probably at heart beat as that leads to consciousness.

and therefor an atheist?

At conception

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kosherdelight.com/CanadaSynagogues.shtml

freezing an embryo keeps it alive, freezing a born baby kills it

Lol, lmao glad to see how much I'm affecting you

S-s-stop analyzing my blatant malice towards an idea that makes kikes like m*cough* I mean the ADL seethe!!!!

i can guarantee you’re eyes, skin, and soul are pitch fucking black nigger.

Look at this baby dick sucker reduced to spamming wojaks kek. You truly are the real kike. Wow!

I have bright blue eyes, because I am white. You have brown eyes, because you are some kind of mystery taco meat mixture who's ancestors arrived in this country within the last 50 years

so a baby is a "people" at conception and therefor meets your criteria

I dont apply that label to them because atheism is the disbelief or lack of belief in esoteric knowledge aka God or gods.

Do you know what esoteric means? Specialized knowledge understood by people and changes based on people

Therefore I don't apply this to anything but people

and means they are atheist at conception, am i understanding that right?

Doubles down in hostility doesn't even try to defend his position or explain why the idea makes him seethe so

Lol

These idiots aren't able to answer this because they do not read the bible. Actual deranged christian fanatics were literally pouring boiling diarrhea down eachothers throats over this topic 500 years ago and the people on this board are basically answering with the same level of awareness that a white tailed deer would have on the subject

so a baby is a "people" at conception and therefor meets your criteria

You didn't read anything I've said as you've got it wrong already

Anyway this thread is done and I'm going to play Elden Ring.

I've explained my position as clearly and simply as possible. If you don't get it then that's a you problem.

Already been explained, maybe wipe the foreskin blood out of your eyes and read it, huh?
Here's some of the shit the "israelites" were doing

ritual circumcisions

lighting menorahs

wearing tefillin

wearing tzitzit

killing and raping children they captured after combat

stealing foreskins from corpses

sacrificing babies to moloch

celebrating passover, hannukah, and purim

eating kosher

My European ancestors weren't doing this shit and I don't know why you keep slandering them by saying they were.

Well, if you're one the real jews why do you not follow the law of moshe and practice circumcision?

if anyone else understands this dudes definitions or beliefs feel free to add to it lol

Lol

Are you retarded?

my dad has light blue eyes 170 iq (a17 eyes)

mated with a 6’ southern Italian with size 10 shoes

be me, 6’3, size 13, hazel ayes arguing with spics online

the answer is clearly that atheism is a choice just like any other belief system. atheism is a belief system. it's all the same shit lol.

only around 3% of people are exclusively gay on western countries and there is still a lot more bisexual people who are also attracted to the opposite sex

this thread is peak Anon Babble atm ngl

my dad has light blue eyes 170 iq (a17 eyes)

mated with a 6’ southern Italian with size 10 shoes

be me, 6’3, size 13, hazel ayes arguing with spics online

t.

It is somewhat of a gem that will be being pdf scanned by me most likely

506255861

Let me tell you about your country

Don't care spico flag

unrepentant degenerates doomed for hell nothing new under the sun.

bro there is literally statistics and surveys on sexual orientation on different countries and gay people usualy peak at 3% on accepting countries, and the point was that bringing up gay people out of nowhere is just plain dumb

gay brains structured like those of the opposite sex

newscientist.com/article/dn14146-gay-brains-structured-like-those-of-the-opposite-sex/

there are many evidence that homosexuality is a natural attraction determined during the INTRA-UTERINE brain development, following genetic, epigenetic and enviroinmental factors.
There are a number of morphological traits that positively correlate with it (digit ratio (i.e. longer index finger = less testosterone,) thinness of the jaw, and some others.) This is so strong, in fact, that a computer can accurately identify a homosexual from facial topology alone 80% of the time. If homosexuality were merely a psychological cope or a byproduct of psychological trauma, we wouldn't expect such strong correlates with morphology.
nymag.com/news/features/33520/
bbc.com/news/technology-41188560

Regarding sexual abuse, it is true that homosexuals, on average, are more likely than heterosexuals to have experienced childhood sexual abuse. However, studies have also shown that effeminate heterosexual boys are at a higher risk of molestation, while masculine homosexual boys are at a lower risk of molestation. If gender nonconformity (effeminacy) exposes children to a higher risk of molestation (it also exposes them to a higher risk of physical abuse too), then naturally homosexuals will experience elevated rates of childhood molestation compared to heterosexuals, because most homosexuals are gender nonconforming as children. Furthermore, 'pre-gay' children are often identifiably different from their peers from a very early age (about 3 years), before any molestation occurs.
also most of that sexual abuse was consensual teenage experience with older males.
gays never look average, they're always either truecel teir borderline deformed subhumans or they're model teir prettyboy Chadlites.

They are jews.
They believe in Judaism.
They don't admit it, jewish intellect is average or below average.

we all have our crosses to bear. Jesus saves.

Christopher Michael Langan, QI 195

Lol LOL

HAHA

you mean this god?

parents neglecting teenagers so they end up in relationships with adults is abuse. neglect is abuse. there's nothing to be done for it. a person is more than their tribulations and Jesus can and will absolve all. But you already know that.

strawman argument

That's cute, I accept your inability to argue with what I said, christcuck.

Christianity isn’t just a slave religion—it’s a Jewish psyop that turned goyim into obedient Torah Thralls, worshipping their enemies without even realizing it. The Yahweh Cattle love to screech about “muh chosen people,” yet their entire existence revolves around licking the boots of a god who explicitly chose Jews over them. They bow to a book written by Pharisees, worship a Moshiach meant only for Israel, and then cope by pretending they’re somehow the real inheritors of a covenant they were never invited into. It’s the most pathetic display of spiritual cuckoldry in human history—Covenant Cucks simping for a foreign god while their Jewish masters laugh all the way to the bank.

Every time a Christcuck spergs out about “Christ is King,” just remind them that their king was a Bethlehem Bootlicker born under Roman occupation, executed by his own people, and buried in a borrowed grave like the broke rabbi he was. The entire religion is a golem program designed to turn proud nations into passive, self-hating serfs, waiting for some Hebrew miracle that will never come. They call it “faith,” but all it really is a coping mechanism for weak men who would rather serve than think. The sooner they realize they’ve been conned, the sooner they can break free from their Synagogue Serfdom and stop being nothing more than Shekel Shepherds herding their fellow goyim into submission.

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Didn't read

christcuck

You mis-spelled can't.

There are plenty of things that happen that you don't understand, can't understand in principle, and cannot even conceive of. How is it the (relatively) simple laws of physics act as a platform that hosts the absurdly complex range of patterns and abstractions that exist in reality, including dynamical systems like living beings, that persist in time despite the fact that their consistent physical elements are constantly in flux such that no single physical element can be identified with that being? How does your brain generate consciousness, and what function does it serve ( in other words why aren't we philosophical zombies). There are infinitely many more mysteries of the reality we find ourselves in, these are just some uncontroversial ones they teach you in philosophy 101 that are safe for Midwits. People like you pretend you understand reality and that there's nothing mysterious, miraculous, or awe inspiring going on around you to avoid the deep and crushing feeling of inadequacy and helplessness you feel when faced with the numinous and infinity. Your detached cynical disposition is a cope. The religious simply try to see reality as it is, not just in a way that prevents us from feeling uncomfortable.

see reality as it is

by believing in jewish fairytales, believing in utter nonsense like the virgin birth of a dead rabbi who came back to life, or a jew hand-making a boat to put a breeding pair of every animal on it, solely out of the goodness of his heart

*Constituent physical elements, not consistent

it's more like this

I didn't say anything about Christianity. I'm saying modern secular world views are a retarded cope