Jordan Peterson says bread is not safe anymore

is he right?
also doesn't complaining about the food industry putting stuff in bread conflict with his beliefs on the free market?
youtube.com/watch?v=QrN2e5qQMGI

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bread is fine. stop with the distractions. my sister eats her weight in bread every day and she's fine. her boyfriend (black) is a fat piece of shit though, and they eat bagels all the time, must be genetics

jordan peterson someone that against US he doing political subversion

I'm not eating bread because it's total slop.
They take apart each component of the grain, chemically treat it to be higher in sugar and addictive stuff (flavors, etc), then they put it back, all stripped of nutrients and higher in carb content, lower in fiber, and everything else.
Real bread wouldn't even last outside of a fridge.

If her bf is black she's objectively not fine

Yeah one of the oldest food stuffs in the planet is bad for us

Is the bread making the frogs gay now?

Juden Peterson is smarter than 14,000 years ago

Buy an ad juden peterstein

Yeah one of the oldest food stuffs in the planet is bad for us

Come on mate you cannot possibly believe that the slop they call bread today is even remotely like what bread has traditionally been.

Look at this shit at shartmart.

walmart.com/ip/10315355

Enriched Wheat Flour (Wheat Flour, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, Sugar, Yeast, Basedbean Oil, Salt, Vital Wheat Gluten, Dough Conditioners (Mono- & Diglycerides, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Ascorbic Acid), Calcium Propionate (to Retain Freshness), Onions Flour, Encapsulated Sorbic Acid (Sorbic Acid, Hydrogenated Vegetable Oil, Mono- and Diglycerides) (to Retain Freshness), Yeast Nutrients (Calcium Sulfate, Ammonium Sulfate, Calcium Carbonate, Monocalcium Phosphate), Onions Lecithin.

American bread is suspect, but if you need Jordan Peterson to tell you that, you probably need to consider your life choices. The manosphere has nothing to offer you. Go outside and talk to a real person, please.

What do you even mean by bread

I watched a video of some girl squishing bread and it bouncing back.

I would believe that part of your bread is not bread anymore..
They wouldn't announce it even as then people wouldn't buy it so just mix it to thin it out and act stupid about it. Guaranteed to have people "eat ze bugs" without them knowing

Depending on your genome, gluten is bad for you, it will trigger autoimmune disease. Also most bread has sugar now

Bread is for the rich goys only now.
Eat your plastics poor fag.

what's wrong with having a black boyfriend wtf she's just into athletic guys

Opt for sourdough. Doesn't have the oils, chemicals and preservatives

wheat used to make flour sprayed with glysophate
flour "enriched" = some artificial acid I forget that doesn't exist in nature that's bad for you,
if store bread, they used seed oils, high fructose corn syrup, wood pulp filler, anti bacterial that fucks with your gut, preservatives.
wheat saps nutrients, estrogenetic.

Yeah, this is bad for you.

athletic guys

Please stop stereotyping niggers, fucking bigot. Not all niggers are athletic.

Is this the pill popper who is soo weak willed that he fucked his brain getting put into a coma to avoid withdrawals? The guy that thinks apple cider made him not sleep for a month?

romanian gypsy thats in America you have good bread

It is only American bread. The farming has made it more likely to hurt you.

I think a lot of people have infections that make it worse, and they’d have minimal inflammation from bread and sugar with infections treated / cleared. Both external toxins.

i bake my own bread out of whole wheat flour i grind myself

whole wheat flour, water, lard, salt, yeast

He did, because he was such a purist, he only eats beef.

It gave him scurvy, which causes those reactions when other foods are introduced.

You seem insecure about your brown skin, to be fair, either way.
That's in Romania as well.
We're also the no. 1 country in Europe in terms of child obesity, and it's going higher and higher; we've reached this year our estimates for the next decades.
Not a single supermarket has real bread, and bakeries use slop flour as well.
You have to make it at home if you want real bread.

wheat used to make flour sprayed with glysophate

i grew up farming wheat and have literally never heard of this. wheat is graded on its protein content and to kill the plant prematurely woukd 100% lower its protein content. the difference between 9% and 11% protein content is huge

Check the ingredients, its a little more than flour, yeast, water.

yes peterson's right. you should only be eating pork, beef and chicken, not bread. peterson and his daughter almost died slept for one month straight after drinking a glass of apple juice. he and his daughter have the answers. follow their regime if you want to be healthy.

Give them hell

Never took this kike seriously since then.

i grew up farming wheat and have literally never heard of this

aka roundup.

Every time I see him say something now, I just think "Israel made him do this." And it's probably true. Israel probably told him to put out this video to help regain his rep so he can continue pushing their agenda.

Extremely based and exactly what bread should be. Not all this processed shit shops purport to be bread.

Judge finds that sugar content of US chain’s sandwiches exceeds stipulated limit and they should thus be classified as confectionery

theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/01/irish-court-rules-subway-bread-is-not-bread

i grew up farming wheat and have literally never heard of this

Bet you've heard of roundup though.

The herbicide, glyphosate, is applied to wheat crops before harvest to encourage ripening resulting in higher glyphosate residues in commercial wheat products within North America.

pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7545723/

a broken clock can be right twice, that's why you check against stable clocks, but he got hospitalized because of GABAergic drugs addiction, he cold turkey quit that which can lead to seizures and other nasty things, he also went to a clinic in Russia where they mismanaged it all, made it worse
his meat only diet is retarded btw. I can understand why it's a good regime for a lard ass that's close to dying, keto + restrictive diet, mindful of what you put in will help with the weight management

i know what glyphosohate is, ive spayed thousands of gallons of it. ive never heard of soraying the wheat with it. i keep seeing people say this and i was wondering where they heard that.

breadhurts

Dropping some redpill for fatties itt. Sugar isn't bad for you, it'sessential for energy. Fat isn't bad for you, it's essential for your body. Protein is good for you no matter what. Always look at the calories of a food before you eat it, and track your calories with an app on your phone. You can eat nothing but cookies, cake, and icecream and still lose weight if you are in a calorie deficit. Also, the chemicals ain't gonna hurt you, Cletus.

Real bread wouldn't even last outside of a fridge

Is that how it was in the old days? Doesn't sound like it, they had bread and they'd basically do whatever with it.

If Peterson is telling me to do something, I'll do the opposite. My room is messy, my penis is unwashed and I boycott Israel.

The herbicide, glyphosate, is applied to wheat crops before harvest to encourage ripening resulting in higher glyphosate residues in commercial wheat products within North America.

this for sure would lower the grade of the wheat, i have never heard of this, it might happen on irrigated wheat but no one does this in eastern colorado and weatern kansas

Israel good

Benzos good

BREAD? BEDEVILED YEAST!!!

He is too far gone, he is charging at windmills...made of bread

drugs addiction

he literally says drinking apple juice took him out for a month
youtube.com/watch?v=cVJWiHuoUqY

Who gives a fuck what Juden Peterstein has to say.

yea I'm sure it was unrelated to his withdrawals from benzos, must've been the juice

US/anglo bread isnt bread. Its bread shaped corn syrup.

THEY'RE IN MY BREAD

where they heard that.

From results of testing for glysophate.

Cereal

The most glyphosate-contaminated products were:

Honey Nut Cheerios Medley Crunch (833 ppb)
Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Maple Brown Sugar (566 ppb)
Nature Valley Granola Cups, Almond Butter (529 ppb)
Chocolate Peanut Butter Cheerios (400 ppb)
Nature Valley Baked Oat Bites (389 ppb)
Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Oats and Honey (320 ppb)
Nature Valley Crunchy Granola Bars, Peanut Butter (312 ppb)
Nature Valley Granola Cups, Peanut Butter Chocolate (297 ppb)
Nature Valley Fruit & Nut Chewy Trail Mix Granola Bars, Dark Chocolate Cherry (275 ppb)
Nature Valley Protein Granola, Oats and Dark Chocolate (261 ppb)
Multi Grain Cheerios (216 ppb)
Nature Valley Soft-Baked Oatmeal Squares, Blueberry (206 ppb)
Fiber One Soft-Baked Cookies, Oatmeal Raisin (204 ppb)
Nature Valley Granola, Peanut Butter Creamy & Crunchy (198 ppb)
Nature Valley Biscuits with Almond Butter (194 ppb)

consumernotice.org/environmental/pesticides/glyphosate-in-food/

Bread

1. Village Hearth 100% Whole Wheat Bread- 1,150 parts per billion (ppb) of Roundup

2. Whole Foods 365 Whole Wheat Sandwich Bread- 1,040 ppb

3. Walmart Chickpeas Great Value Bread- 889 ppb

4. Pepperidge Farm 100% Whole Wheat Bread- 587 ppb

5. Quaker Oats- 535 ppb

6. Pepperidge Farm Jewish Rye & Pumpernickel Deli Swirl Bread- 531 ppb

7. Market Pantry 100% Whole Wheat Sandwich Bread- 348 ppm

8. Walmart Great Value 100% Whole Wheat Bread- 340 ppb

9. Off the Eaten Path Rice, Peas and Black Beans (Found at Target)- 301 ppb

10. Sara Lee 100% Whole Wheat Bread- 284 ppb

althealthworks.com/high-glyphosate-levels-found-in-these-10-healthy-whole-grain-breads/

lots of people buy walmart brand bread because it never goes bad. and it for sures doeant, idk what they put in it to keep it from going moldy but it doesn't

Everything was consumed within a day or so. In ancient times, they made extremely dry biscuits for long-term military campaigns or monks living in the wilderness.
Whole grain bread lasts a few days at room temperature, with each day making it worse.

all of that shit has onions in it and onions is roundup ready (meaning its can be sprayed with round up and not die)

corn

peanuts

basedbeans

all are roundup ready and drenched with it regularly

EAT MORE MEAT

CARNIVORE NATIONALISM WILL SAVE THE WHITE RACE

THEY JUST WANT YOU TO EAT THE BREAD SO THEY CAN GROW MORE GRAINS

oh and rice is roundup ready also

All you really have to do is buy unseparated raw grain in bulk, cane sugar, and some yeast.
Then get your tradwife to make a fresh loaf every day. That's it.

Unless you want to go to some hipster grocery store and pay $6 for the same loaf.

Making your own bread is pretty much the the only way you're going to get healthy bread.

this for sure would lower the grade of the wheat, i have never heard of this, it might happen on irrigated wheat but no one does this in eastern colorado and weatern kansas

Certainly could be the case that no one does it or it's rare in your neck of the woods, but in more moist states they absolutely do. It's real popular in the Mid West in the US, Saskatchewan etc

Its 2025 and you cattle still don't understand that gluten is poison, or that they are intentionally poisoning all food.

Thats the level you are on and its pathetic.

If your going to point the finger at those as the source of glysophate it would help if everything listed had those ingredients, but that's not the case.

Straight up flour:

Bob’s Red Mill Gluten Free All Purpose Baking Flour — 151.37 ppb glyphosate & AMPA, & 5.08 ppb sum total other pesticide concentration
King Arthur Measure for Measure Gluten Free Flour — 6.72 ppb glyphosate & AMPA, & 147.19 ppb sum total other pesticide concentration
Pamela’s Artisan Blend Flour Gluten Free — 4.67 ppb glyphosate & AMPA, & 37.12 ppm sum total other pesticide concentration

mamavation.com/food/gluten-free-foods-tested-for-glyphosate-other-pesticides-gluten.html

we use the fuck out of roundup where i live but we do not spray it on the wheat to make it ripen more quickly, i think someone just came up with that after looking at your map.

This is an oxymoron.

There is no healthy wheat you fucking retard.

Guys, without sounding mad explain why four chan cookies are good for you?

I make my own bread, just wheat, yeast, salt, water. It lasts a few days covered, but on the second or third day you need to toast it. After that, it dries up and you can make pudding or soup with it.

If you don't cut open the loaf, it'll get to the second day easy. I think that might be why "breaking bread" had some importance.

Also in North America there's strict legal definitions for what is and isn't "whole wheat" bread. 99% of the loaves that say "whole wheat" aren't actually fully whole wheat.
Companies remove the outer shell of the grain and discard it because it makes it last longer, and that outer shell contains a lot of nutrients.
That's why in most places the government mandates the flour companies to artificially re-add those lost nutrients before baking.

I can't remember anymore what the specific legal term is but it was something like "whole grain wheat flour" to mean bread made with the nutritious shell of the grains left on.

There's similar fuckery with "orange juice" by the way. The oranges are ground up in big tanks and then dehydrated into small chunks/powder (so they last longer), but this has the side effect of removing the natural chemicals that give it its citrus flavor. Then when they make the "juice" they add in artificial flavoring to make it taste similarly to oranges. So you're not actually drinking a healthy beverage. More like chemically flavored water.

Shut the fuck up faggot. Humans have been eating healthy wheat for millennias.

wait till all the roundup fags itt find out about phostoxin. you will love to find out thats in your wheat. also read about the burndown class of herbicides, those are based, it completely kills weeds in just an hour or two, really expensive though. roundup is the least of your worries

Yeah, they have also been ridden with auto immune disorders since wheat was introduced in to our geneology you moron.

People started eating wheat due to necessity after cataclysm. It was never meant to be adopted as a staple in our diet, and it is almost entirely an indigestible anti nutrient.

Thats why all you hylic normies need copious amounts of fiber to shit.

Truly pathetic.

Wash your bread

theres nothing wrong with bugs you stupid fuck, in fact theyre the better option to whatever gay shit you eat.

make your bread in the morning

Jordan Peterson

says

I grew up on animations like that, even more fucked up. Early YouTube was strange.
I've recently found my old bookmarks, and all those videos have only a few hundred to a few thousand views, but some of them were like 30m long, lots of high-effort animation as well as modeling.

conflict with his beliefs on the free market?

The big food companies are all owned by the same banks, and the banks are all owned by the same jews, those jews power is protected by the military. There is no free market, it is a monopoly enforced by violence. The real conflict in Peterson's beliefs on the free market are that he thinks there is one when obviously we have a market captured by satanic pedophile jews who want us dead.

they had to dehydrate everything to get it to last a while, it's how beef jerky came about. the number 1 way to preserve calories was beer, since the alcohol was anti-microbial & fungi. the other thing is they just wouldn't eat for days at a time, having 3 meals a day is a modern luxury.

They dont test for glyphosate, they test for ampha which is a detergent used in the food industry. Glyphosate breaks down into ampha too within days.
all these studies are garbage in - garbage out

Which of those ingredients other than the bespoke bean and sneed oils do you actually have a problem with?

Why is he so fucking retarded.

Have you even looked at the ingredients? Every time I buy bread I have to read every label. They're all loaded with HFCS, s-o-ybean oil, aluminum and a bunch of other shit. There's like two brands I guess are okay to eat but they cost twice as much as everything else and still have mildly questionable ingredients. Next time you go to the bread aisle realize only like 4 of those packages out of 100 aren't complete poison.

I habitually read ingredients labels. Where have you seen aluminum in bread?

the seeds. all commercial grains are a grass hybrid since the 70's. our digestive system enzymes cannot properly breakdown this GMO abomination.

Our digestive system has zero problem processing grains. Where did you even hear this?

Are you retarded? Bread should have a maximum of like 4 ingredients.

Flour

Water

Yeast

Salt

The fact that you can barely find these ingredients in the list is insane. Bro look around you sometime everyone is morbidly obese and dying.

processing grains

They're NOT 'grains'. they're grass hybrids, into reading comprehension.

Is it not kosher?

The way US food legislation works, if you don't grow your own food, you're a guinea pig for goyslop. That's the natural consequence of banning products only after they turn out to be harmful.

Are you retarded?

Be kind to the retards, newgens think milk comes from the fridge and the ultra processed shit they get from the market is real food.
Of course, they have no concept whatsoever of what bread is really like.

This does not answer the question.
What specifically do you have a problem with?

These "grass hybrids" are still grains. And your body has no problem digesting them.

You're correct, but you're using it as a bait-and-switch for your initial point. It's not really the oldest food in the world with all those ingredients, is it?

Sodium aluminum phosphate and sulfate is probably in 3/4 of the bread people eat. It is toxic. It's everywhere.

Check ID's.

I've personally never seen it. Even Wonder Bread doesn't contain it. It's certainly not as common as you claim.

>Your body properly digests the food not found anywhere in nature

No.

Broccoli isn't found anywhere in nature.
Whether it's "natural" has zero bearing on whether you can digest it.

My bad. You were making a different point instead of actually responding to the Aussie.

No wonder people naturally recoil from it. Anyway, the point is its NOT bread, it's its own thing.

It's bread with added ingredients. And unless you can establish a problem with those ingredients, then you shouldn't be concerned about it.

It's bread with added ingredients

No, it's its own thing with some shared ingredients. It's NOT bread.

. And unless you can establish a problem with those ingredients

I have.

then you shouldn't be concerned about it.

I barely eat it so I'm not concerned.

Say we invent a wholly new chemical compound and we don't fully understand its properties. How much testing do you think it should go through before we put it in food?

Make your own bread everyday, problem solved. Highly recommend sourdough, smells amazing when its coming up.

No, it's its own thing with some shared ingredients. It's NOT bread.

Ground up grains with added moisture and leavening. That's bread. They added more ingredients to bread.

I have

No you have not. You just cried about it not being "natural" which even traditional bread isn't natural anyway.

t. Rockefeller institute shill

You're very interested in us eating Rockefeller pioneered foodstuffs.

muh natural

Mercury is perfectly natural, daily doses of it are still bad for you.

How much testing do you think it should go through before we put it in food?

Depends on a lot of things. In general you'd establish that there's no reason to suspect toxicity. If a particular reaction raises questions, animal testing may be in order.

That's bread.

So what, now the Rockefeller Institute aka. the World Harm Organization is going to cook a newspeak term for actual bread? I mean, "meat" is now lab grown cells and transgenic injections are vaccines, what's next for our own safety Mr. Agent?

I buy real bread from a local bakery but have to freeze it because it goes bad super quick.
Even day old bread is meh.
A light toast from the freezer and its good to go.
There's this squaw bread I like which is this type of dark rye, SO FUCKING GOOD.

You're very interested in us eating Rockefeller pioneered foodstuffs.

I don't give a fuck what you eat. But these concerns you have are unfounded.

Mercury is perfectly natural, daily doses of it are still bad for you.

That's my argument. You were the one nature-sperging.

That's what bread has always been. And people have been adding ingredients to bread since the invention of bread.

I don't take these zionist clowns seriously as intellectuals. Farming clicks and selling books.

I don't give a fuck what you eat

Then leave me to my folly, so.

But these concerns you have are unfounded.

Not in the slightest, eating the shit called 'bread' causes inflammation as well as weight gain.

Expecting me to believe the Rockefeller institute puts out anything good for humanity

You know where you are, right?

This Nigger is retarded. Why listen to him?

Then leave me to my folly

Would you "leave someone to his folly" if he was spouting retarded gender faggotry?

eating the shit called 'bread' causes inflammation as well as weight gain.

So does traditional bread. It's basically pure carbs. It's not nutritionally different (with the obvious exception of vitamin/mineral fortifications that a lot of bread has). Bread itself isn't exactly "good" for you. But it has nothing to do with modern means of baking it.

Rockefeller institute

I don't give a fuck about them. None of my information is coming from them. I don't know why they live in your head like this.

Whenever I eat bread it knocks me the fuck out. I need to take a nap after.

GMO flour and GMO corn syrup is objectively NOT SAFE. But Christ is King. That pisses off Jordan Cuckistan.

Would you "leave someone to his folly" if he was spouting retarded gender faggotry?

As long as they weren't demanding I participate? Then yes.

So does traditional bread

People were eating traditional bread for a LONG ass time without the inflammation and obesity epidemic. Notice how NEAR everyone was trim up until the 70's when the new hybrid seed became the norm in agriculture.

None of my information is coming from them

But the seed you're shilling for did.

I don't know why they live in your head like this.

I like to stay away from people trying to poison me.

So you'd agree that you need evidence that something is safe rather than just a lack of evidence that it's dangerous. People will disagree what's a good amount of evidence to establish safety. Plenty of natural substances are dangerous, so I absolutely agree that's a red herring people have. You pick up berries in the forest and a fox might have peed on them, leaving parasites. All natural.

It's just that they have an easier time trusting a foodstuff that has centuries of human consumption rather than one that has decades at best. If you separate the signal from the noise, that's a reasonable stance.

It depends on the bread. Yeah the value brand wonder bread normtards buy at Walmart or winco is cancer but an artisan sourdough from your local bakery is fine.

People were eating traditional bread for a LONG ass time without the inflammation and obesity epidemic. Notice how NEAR everyone was trim up until the 70's when the new hybrid seed became the norm in agriculture.

People were eating less in general. The reason people are fat fucks these days is calorie dense food is so abundant and they wash the shit down with carbonated sugar water.

But the seed you're shilling for did.

There's a massive variety of wheat cultivars and no one company corners the market.

So you'd agree that you need evidence that something is safe rather than just a lack of evidence that it's dangerous

Depends what you mean by this. As I said: you'd only go to animal testing if there's a particular reaction that concerns you. If it's something understood to be inert or its known reactions aren't a cause for concern, then I wouldn't be opposed to it entering the food supply without direct testing.

People were eating less in general.

That's what happens when you're nourished as opposed to malnourished.

The reason people are fat fucks these days is calorie dense food is so abundant and they wash the shit down with carbonated sugar water.

So an aggregation of all these little 'innovations' you're shilling for?

There's a massive variety of wheat cultivars

True, you have to buy boutique.

and no one company corners the market.

False. The hybrid seed yields 4x's the amount so its the DEFAULT seed for commercial.

I think it's pretty straight forward.
Evidence that something is safe is that you ingest it and nothing happens.
Evidence that something is dangerous is that something bad happens.

There's obvious overlap, evidence in one direction is evidence against the other.
The nuance I'm pointing out comes from the fact that absence of either evidence is not evidence for the other. For example, your example of a chemical being "inert" uses everything we know about chemistry as evidence for the safety of the chemical. You're just essentially deferring to evidence that's well-established.

That's what happens when you're nourished as opposed to malnourished.

It's also what happens when bread is $1.50 a loaf.

So an aggregation of all these little 'innovations' you're shilling for?

If what you're complaining about how much food we have available, this might be a half decent argument. But that's not what you were complaining about so it's disingenuous pilpul.

False. The hybrid seed yields 4x's the amount so its the DEFAULT seed for commercial.

There is no single hybrid seed. There is a variety of distinct hybrids sold by several companies which are unaffiliated with Rockefeller.

Sure.

It's also what happens when bread is $1.50 a loaf.

It's NOT bread, it its OWN thing. If you want bread you have to order the flour boutique and bake it yourself.

If what you're complaining about how much food we have available

It's calories, not food.

There is a variety of distinct hybrids sold by

lol

wtf is that list.. our bread only has 4 ingredients

My point is just that you can't just escape the need for evidence and people aren't wrong to want it. Their standard for evidence might be silly, but dismissing the need isn't wise, and it's actually kind of counter-productive.

It's NOT bread

On what grounds are you even saying this? Is it purely because these modern cultivars are "grass hybrids?" Do yourself a favor and read up on where wheat originated.

Spoiler: it's a selectively bread grass that didn't exist in nature until we hybridized a bunch of grasses together.

Lurk more, newfag. You and your sister should be ashamed

Grow your own wheat then
Become a baker

I don't eat dumb carbs period, that includes everything pastry as well.

Spoiler: it's a selectively bread grass that didn't exist in nature until we hybridized a bunch of grasses together.

I have celiac disease so not my problem

The cellulose is primarily present in the blades of grass. We're talking about seeds here.
Your same argument would apply to "true" wheat because you can't digest the leaves. How retarded are you?

I eat sourdough bread with whole wheat flour and a mix of seeds that make up 20% of the breads weight.
Its healthy as fuck.

We're talking about seeds here.

And what do the seeds grow into?

How retarded are you?

Right back at you.

Where do you think flour comes from?
There isn't more cellulose in these "grass hybrid" seeds than there is in traditional wheat.

At this point, just take the L.

Where do you think flour comes from?

Seeds, what's up with the seeds is the question and since the 70's all industrial agriculture's been using seed developed by the Rockefeller institute. I don't trust their choice in grass.

At this point, just take the L.

Right back at you, remember you're in a thread about bread being unhealthy and you're not being very convincing.

Buy an ad Kermit the Fag.

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They grow into plants which can then be HACKED. By RUSSIANS even is that what you want ?

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You made the argument that modern bread isn't bread because of hybrid cultivars. I pointed out that wheat itself is a hybrid plant and then you brought up an irrelevant point about cellulose which I explained to you is retarded. Now you're right back to irrelevant sperging about Rockefeller.

remember you're in a thread about bread being unhealthy

I already said bread is unhealthy. This thread is about what's different between modern and traditional bread.

Just take the L. You don't know what you're talking about and have resorted to arguing irrelevancies.

You made the argument that modern bread isn't bread because of hybrid cultivars.

And its not, it's its own thing. If you keep hybrid-ing hybrids with other hybrids at what point does it cease to be what it was and become something new?

I pointed out that wheat itself is a hybrid plant

You're essentially making the argument all hybrids are equal and this is clearly false.

This thread is about what's different between modern and traditional bread.

I know and I'm clearly on the traditional side.

Just take the L

Why? I won already.

You don't know what you're talking about

No, you just picked the stupidest hill to fight on purely for the sake of it.

They take apart each component of the grain, chemically treat it to be higher in sugar and addictive stuff (flavors, etc), then they put it back, all stripped of nutrients and higher in carb content, lower in fiber, and everything else.

Nice to see the retard posting never ends.

PPB

Do you have any idea how low even 1000PPB is?

Yes, enough to be banned from use outside of the US from proven to cause illness.

If youre not buying most of your food from local producers or making it yourself youre ngmi

Not sure if trolling or stupid.

90% of mills crack the wheat berry to separate its three main components - the white endosperm, the germ, and the bran

each is then processed separately

the germ contains oils that can go rancid. To prevent this, the oils are deactivated through toasting

white endosperm - this part is processed to make it "irresistible"

here they add sweeteners or other palatability enhancers

largely starch remains

the bran is also separated for its own processing or use

the components are recombined to reconstitute what is then labeled as "whole grain."

doesn't necessarily use components from the same batch of wheat

various preservatives to inhibit mold growth and slow down staling

conditioners, emulsifiers, enzymes for texture, color, moisture etc.

each of these processes contribute to a product that, when reconstituted, has different properties and diminished health benefits compared to a truly whole, unseparated grain, it's natural synergy is lost

couldn't dumb it down further, left a lot out for simplicity's sake, I don't want to give you cognitive overload
also read

20 slices if bread vs. 1 Jordan Peterson

Yes, even in the early 2000s it got moldy somewhat easily.

If you keep hybrid-ing hybrids with other hybrids at what point does it cease to be what it was and become something new?

Once you establish why it should be considered something new.

You're essentially making the argument all hybrids are equal and this is clearly false.

That was not my argument. My argument is that the fact that it's a hybrid is not sufficient to no longer call it bread.

I won already

I demonstrated in multiple ways why your position is retarded. You're just making a fool of yourself.

Take the L.

Look up cancer rates associated with them, along with parasites.

I once saw a loaf of bread where one of the ingredients was some shit they put in yoga mats.

define bread

yup, its fairly recent, since 2010ish, they do it so they can time the harvest better

JUST EAT THE FUCKING BUGS ALREADY GOY!

I won’t comply with your wheat extreme hypothetical. It would be a sin to indulge

Don't really care about the nutritional content as you don't eat bread for nutrition, it's basically just filler food.
What I do care about is not getting fat while eating food and at this rate seems I'll have to eat only rabbit meat.

bro's correct
bread is a seed oil of bakery products

just eat rice or potatoes
even pasta is better
or just make your own bread

Once you establish why it should be considered something new.

Because it is something new. Horse + Donkey = Mule

My argument is that the fact that it's a hybrid is not sufficient to no longer call it bread.

If you hybrid a hybrid with something else ( especially another hybrid) it's something new. Bread is not available unless you source the flour and bake it yourself.

All of the food supply is tainted with something or other.

Assuming your sister even weighs only 120lbs she eats 120lbs of bread every day and she's 'fine' ?

You read a clickbait article's headline and are too stupid to understand why it's retarded.
Sugar is used in cement. In the strictest sense, anything you eat that has sugar in it as "some shit they put in cement."

The many cultivars of "traditional" wheat are different admixtures of various grasses. So what makes that particular hybrid you're complaining about any different?

Nah, only eat chicken breast until you become 60kg and look lean as fuck boi

just keep the Orthodox fasts, that's half a year of being vegan, and avoid processed vegan food since that shit is just as bad, especially those coconut oil based products which are as high in saturated fat as meat; consuming lots of seed and a high amount of fiber and some oil with those seeds will ensure that all the good stuff ends up in the colon where you'll get lots of GLP-1 and have a reduced appetite overall, dumb carbs as I've called them early gets devoured instantly and there's nothing left for those bacteria at the end which help with the GLP-1

aim for whole plant foods

Tune in next time when rabbi Juden Peterstein-berg debates several pieces of toast

So what makes that particular hybrid you're complaining about any different?

The DRASTIC visible difference among humans before and after the 70's since beginning consuming it.

Your reasoning is circular. What we're trying to establish is whether this hybrid is what caused these changes and not the million other things that changed during that time.

Zero glysophate, zero "enrichment," zero seed oil, zero preservatives, zero wood filler, zero mold prohibiters, zero corn syrup.

Its didactic in essence.

Noted.

I bake my own bread: Flour water yeast.
I season my bread right before eating it.

I randomly bought pic related from a store.
ingredients:

Täysjyväruisjauho, -rouhe ja ruislese (61 %), vesi, vehnäjauho, hiiva, jodioitu merisuola, ruismallasuute. 86 % leivän viljasta on täysjyväruista. Leivottu aitoon taikinajuureen.

aka whole grain rye, water, wheat flour, yeast, salt, rye malt extract. made in dough starter.

I just wanted high fibre bread to eat which helps with digestion but still tastes fine. Helps to avoid weird american preservatives when the bread doesnt have them by default and I don't have to a care about peering at the ingredients at the store.

I guess most of the health issues is just people not exercising enough and eating too many calories but Im sure the nutritional meta and preservatives play some role.

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You just said the nigger is a fat fuck, you hypocritical bitch.

should be ashamed

aka sterilized, yes.

Wow I didn't know Texas is to the north, next to the big lakes.

People take diet like it’s a religion. Obviously processed bread isn’t that good for you. So fucking what. If you’re going to die or get sick because you consumed a little bit of onions flour you’re a bitch and you could never survive anyway. Go fuck yourself. You’re a needledick faggot with skinny arms because you played world of Warcraft and never did any training you little poofter. And for the so called gym bros your tiny little muscles that took you 5 years to attain are pathetic and you’ve developed multiple eating disorders and drug addictions on top of your gay little control scheme. You were never strong. Only a total queer worries about some bread.

pic related is not real bread
it's the product of the 'chorleywood process'

s๐y or canola oil and shortening, gives products larger volume, finer cell structure, tender crust and soft texture

Esters of monoglycerides and diglycerides, emulsifiers and anti-staling agents

Calcium propionate, mould-inhibitor

Stearoyl-2-lactylate, increases dough absorption, improves mixing tolerance and machinability of dough, accelerates proof time, improves grain and texture, creates crust tenderness, extends shelf life

Enzymatically active s๐y flour, contains lipoxygenase enzyme creating whiter crumb

Chlorine dioxide, bleach to enhance whiteness of the crumb

Dextrose, easily fermentable sugar to feed yeast

Diacetyl tartaric acid, chemical leavening agent

Azodicarbonamide, flour oxidizer banned in EU, Canada, Japan, Australia and New Zealand, but permitted in US

Ammonium chloride, form of nitrogen used by yeast to build protein

Gluten, for better texture and doughiness

Starch and protein enzymes, rapidly break down starches to sugars to feed the yeast and "mellow" the gluten to allow for reduced mechanical mixing times

the enzymes, and several of the other "improvers", are not required by law to be listed on ingredient labels, as they are considered to be consumed in the baking process, even though residues have been detected in the product, and the express purpose of several of them is to carry their functions through to the baked product and affect its life on the shelf

depop bread

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Wheat Belly

not eating bread

warm romanian bread from the corner of the street is the thing i missed the most when i was in other countries
their bread is dogshit, like eating cardboard

when the goyim aren't breeding the next generation of tax cattle

How sad

anymore

Bread has never been healthy, it's just been cheap filler for all of its history.

made out of ground seeds

seeds have trace neurotoxins to deter things from eating them

gluten is midly toxic