You got a problem, Anon Babble?
You got a problem, Anon Babble?
Don’t like gun?
Don’t buy one!
Peck and chin implants are gender affirming care change my mind
/thread
don't like women
vote for men to keep wrecking them in women's sports
But sTaTe’S rIgHtS!!1!
Cool. Only tax the democrats then.
Ah yes, I totally forgot about the “gay tax” the government puts on people who aren’t in gay marriages. The government sure as hell doesn’t pay for abortions or gender affirming care either.
Liberals love shoving their beliefs down everyone's throat. Why shouldn't conservatives do the same?
Don't like unraped women?
Don't let women stay unraped.
I like where this is going.
Feel free to, just don’t infringe on our legal rights.
I like where this is going.
And I have no idea where you think this is going, given the logical solution to not liking people who haven’t been raped (for whatever bizarre reason) would be to… stay away from unraped women and get yourself raped? Seriously tf are you proposing?
Why should I care if leftest sterilize themselves and take their wonky genetics out of the gene pool?
We are not obligated to defend sodomy, murder of children, and degeneracy, it has nothing to do with us not liking it, it is objectively wrong and the people doing these things KNOW it is objectively wrong but they scar their conscience with their wickedness and place their life above what is obviously right.
The solutions is, not being slave to your impulses, abstaining from the world, because it has you working evil for no reason.
EVERY ABORTION IS MURDER
THAT IS NOT A RELIGIOUS BELIEF OR CONVICTION THAT IS OBJECTIVELY TRUE
YOU ARE NOT PREGNANT YOU ARE WITH CHILD
AND YOU ARE MURDERING THAT CHILD FOR NO REASON
YOU SHOULD MAKE EVERY EFFORT TO NURTURE AND CONCEIVE
Even assuming those activities only concern themselves and that general health of society doesn't matter (both assumptions are false btw) that tweet is still retarded
They don't want to be merely left alone. They want (you) to sponsor it and engage with it. They want anti discrimination laws, trans surgeries and abortion payed for by government, they want to force people to support with troon delusions.
They are playing the "live and let live" card despite having nothing but contempt for that principle
don't like slavery?
don't own a slave!
No, they pay for the plethora of diseases you niggers bring about that only seem to affect fags and for some strange reason dogs and children.
Don't like slavery?
Don't get a slave.
The Bible literally gives instructions on how to perform an abortion for god sake, infringing on one’s right to an abortion is infringing on the practices outlined in Christian scripture.
As for gay marriage and gender affirming care, I’m not sure how you can even *begin* to call that objectively wrong, given its impact lies solely on consenting participants who go out of their way to fight for such rights. It’s not hurting you in any way.
Don't like genocide?
Just don't visit death camps.
Don't like murder?
Just don't do it.
Don't like slavery?
Just don't own slaves.
Just because *you* don't like it doesn't mean *others* shouldn't be able to do it.
Ah yes, like HIV… remember the early days when they were calling it the “Gay man’s plague” and were calling it a form of divine judgement from god? Then priests and other religious figures started getting the disease and suddenly it was a serious issue that needed worldwide medical attention.
What if people don't like being murdered or raped? Do they tell their attacker WAIT I do not agree with this. And just *poof* it stops?
It should go without saying, but the distinction between say… gay marriage and literal murder is that one happens between 2 consenting adults, while the other is an act of violence committed against an unwilling participant. If all parties consent to an act like marriage you shouldn’t feel the need to step in unless you’re romantically involved with one of them already.
Rightoids will cry about this because they're a bunch of disgusting nazis.
Children can't consent to anything you numbskull
This. Completely blows their argument out of the water. Notice how everyone completely ignores this post because it ruins everything. Great FP, its the BP
Do you agree or disagree with the stuff in op's image?
Which is why we don’t allow pedophilia. I assume you’re referring to gender affirming care, but the problem there is that children don’t “consent” to biologically growing up as their birth sex either. Gender affirming treatments like HRT can at least give trans kids a degree of say in how their body develops as they grow up, even if it’s a decision that would preferably be made later in life.
Don't like murder?
Don't kill anyone.
Just because you don't like murder doesn't mean *others* shouldn't be able to do it.
yep, this one's going in my fippybippy compilation
I have an interest in the well-being of society as a whole, so it is my right to oppose degeneracy in all forms.
See, the problem is that you're now shifting to another argument. The original argument was, that just because you consider something to be immoral, you should have no right to impose it on others. But this obviously runs into an issue, where if you apply this kind of reasoning to things which we both agree are horrible and shouldn't be allowed, it suddenly falls apart. So this reasoning ONLY works because you're making a bunch of unspoken assumptions, that the activities you're talking about are actually okay. Which means that the argument is complete garbage, because the person you're presenting it to doesn't agree to those hidden assumptions. You're free to make other arguments like you try in this post, but they are different from the one in the OP.
As a pro-gun leftist I have to agree lol. I find myself agreeing with less and less Republican talking points as time goes on, but gun rights is something I still stand behind. The argument of personal safety over freedom isn’t completely invalid there, but I really don’t think the right to own a basic firearm infringes on the right to personal security to nearly an extreme enough degree to warrant a ban.
I must have forgot the part where the unborn can consent to an abortion.
"This kid says he wants to be a racecar, let's chop off his legs and sew some wheels on instead. It's just body affirming care, chud."
Guns hurt other people; that's the difference. My life is more important than your backwards hobby.
You got a problem, Anon Babble?
They don't need to get married either
children cannot consent to gender affirming care
abortion is murder, make better choices instead of being a disgusting slut
others are more often wrong and need sense beat into their autistic retarded skulls
dumb bitches: -5,653,303, Anon Babble: +10,543,432, die by a nigger rape ya gross cunt
/thread
Stop raping kids.
Stop. Raping. Kids.
But this obviously runs into an issue, where if you apply this kind of reasoning to things which we both agree are horrible and shouldn't be allowed,
I don't agree gun ownership is horrible
in fact it can be pretty fucking funny
It really doesn’t, provided you add the (typically assumed) clause that such freedoms are only allowed if they do not infringe on the freedoms of others. We could go back and forth about abortion for ages, but this is unequivocally true for marriage and gender affirming care, which only affect the individual which consents to it.
Libertarianism is the worst cancer that has befallen our lands. Humans do need guardrails if you just say "whatever the new thing is -- do it!" as a lifestyle, eventually you pull at the fray of every thread and rip the entire country into pieces, everyone does things they regret and it turns into more pain and death than people thought they were avoiding.
btfo
don't like murder?
Don't kill anyone
Argument breaks down instantly.
don't make the mistake of thinking the Libertarian Party is libertarian, they're anarchists if anything
it's like how the tyrant party calls itself "Democrat"
Do you agree that people own guns shouldn't have a say in gun control?
Don't like rape?
Don't rape.
Abortion is far too philosophical as to “what constitutes a human life” for me to really discuss besides its prescence in religious scripture, so sure you get that one for free.
"This kid says he wants to be a racecar, let's chop off his legs and sew some wheels on instead. It's just body affirming care, chud."
The idea that any sane human would ever consent to and want such a thing given the long term implications is absurd, though I’m sure you’ll say the same thing about kids wanting to physically be a different gender.
Thing is, I’ve seen and grown up with a trans sibling firsthand, and while I don’t understand *what* makes them feel “off”, I know it’s more than just wanting to be different. My brother (now sister) always gravitated towards female things and activities, which shouldn’t even make sense since stuff like nail polish isn’t genetically female in the first place. They knew they didn’t feel right as a male from a very young age and expressed that to my mom as young as 11. My mom was highly resistant to the idea given the countless difficulties it would pose, but did end up letting her use gender affirming care and she’s grown up much more happy and content as a result. I don’t know if it’s the brain that’s in the wrong body or vice versa, but I can tell you with certainty that gender dysphoria is a very real phenomenon which in the absence ways to remeld the victim’s minds, can only really be treated with gender affirming care.
don't like molesting children? don't molest one!
this logic is bad and you should feel bad.
children don’t “consent” to biologically growing up as their birth sex either.
this is a wild assertion. did you consent to having two arms and two legs? even that is mutable, unlike your biological sex.
Gender affirming treatments like HRT can at least give trans kids a degree of say in how their body develops as they grow up
except this is based on a lie. there is no such thing as a sex change, it's a false narrative provided by the people who profit off these treatments and have no concern for the harm done. and let's not pretend the kids come up with this stuff on their own..
This is a shill.
Gender dysphoria doesn't exist. It's just sexual abuse, molestation, and grooming.
Scroll up… It’s been discussed before, but OP made the obvious assumption that people would understand such logic only applies to acts which don’t infringe on other people’s rights like I dunno, gay marriage? If the idea of 2 men being able to be happily wedded together hurts you somehow that’s your problem, not theirs.
Marriage is between God, Man and Woman, not State, Man and Man. Child fucker.
I never consented to seeing two faggots displaying their degenerate perversion in public
No, that's not the only assumption you have to make. To make the OP picrel work, you'd also need to make an assumption that an unborn child is not worthy of moral consideration (for the two Points related to Planned Parenthood and abortion), that allowing the mentioned individual practices don't lead to social degradation that will have an undesirable impact on you (point about gay marriage and trans healthcare), that those certain individual practices don't violate your liberties by requiring that the individuals engaging in those practices have the right to curb your freedoms via practices like compelled speech (point about gender-affirming care), that children won't be harmed through ideology-driven medical malpractice and child abuse (point about gender-affirming care), and you could list many more. So no, OP's pircrel argument is trash, and demonstrates a complete lack of ability to put yourself in the shoes of a person who disagrees with you, which in turn means no person will be convinced by it. I'm pretty sure it exists solely to get applause from like-minded people in internet echo chambers, because if you actually presented it in any form of discussion, it would fall apart instantly and make you look like a fool. For the record, I support practices like gay marriage, I'm just allergic to trash argumentation.
Liberals are sick in the head, everything is feelings to them.
The truth we all know, is that violence is power; but people are bad at teaching this lesson, half the time they sperg out and do something like chucking molotovs at people out in the open.
this is a wild assertion. did you consent to having two arms and two legs? even that is mutable, unlike your biological sex
Well technically no, but the body is very well evolutionarily adjusted to the presence of such parts in both genders. I won’t pretend I understand how exactly such discomfort manifests within the minds of trans people, but it would have something to do with the mind not being properly equipped/adjusted to the biological prescence of body parts of the opposite sex? Honestly I don’t know the answer either, just that instances of such dysphoria with limbs are much more rare, and are typically associated with localized pain within said body part rather than something innately in the brain, which is much harder to edit directly.
except this is based on a lie. there is no such thing as a sex change, it's a false narrative provided by the people who profit off these treatments and have no concern for the harm done. and let's not pretend the kids come up with this stuff on their own..
Trans people like my sister know perfectly well that gender affirming care isn’t going to change their genetics on the cellular level, just that it lets them live in a body that is more biologically in tune with how their brain functions. It’s not a matter of “playing pretend” and acting as if they were never born male in the first place, it’s about letting her live in a body she can feel comfortable in. I’m glad to not know what the alternative would feel like.
Do you see people participating in gay sex on your public streets? If not, I really don’t see what your problem with simple, non-sexual displays of affection between 2 people of the same sex is.
I’m fine with making the first assumption but know not everyone shares the same philosophical outlook, so I’ll move onto the next two.
the assumption that allowing the mentioned individual practices don't lead to social degradation that will have an undesirable impact on you (point about gay marriage and trans healthcare)
Yes… and? Idk about you but I’m straight as an arrow, don’t feel a thing when I see men portrayed in an attractive fashion (honestly don’t really understand what makes a man look attractive in the first place as a result). If you feel feelings of attraction when you see men being affectionate towards one another, maybe you aren’t entirely straight yourself.
that those certain individual practices don't violate your liberties by requiring that the individuals engaging in those practices have the right to curb your freedoms via practices like compelled speech (point about gender-affirming care)
Idk about Europe, but we don’t have those kinds of laws here in the U.S., so can safely make that assumption as well.
My point isn't to argue whether those assumptions are sound. My point is that you NEED to make them in order for the original argument to at least on the surface sound like it makes sense.
Yes… and? Idk about you but I’m straight as an arrow, don’t feel a thing when I see men portrayed in an attractive fashion
You could argue, that mass-scale promotion and acceptance of homosexuality can increase its proliferation, as homosexuality isn't something that only arises from people's biology, but also from the environments people are raised in. And having a large population of the kind of relationships that don't produce any offspring contributes to falling birthrates, which itself would lead to complete economic and systemic collapse of the country in the coming decades. Again, my point isn't to argue how sound it is to believe that, my point is to showcase, that it's something you already have to have assumed to not be a problem, so when you then bake this assumption into an argument you present to somebody who doesn't agree with that assumption, it's easy for that person to dismiss your argument via shit like this that showcases you're essentially begging the question (baking in the conclusion in the assumptions).
we don’t have those kinds of laws here in the U.S.
Gender-affirming care is a very vague term. What does it entail? Just because the laws look a certain way now doesn't mean that they can't be changed. It is known that a lot of the trans-supporting crowd places obligations on people who interact with trans people to interact with them in specific ways, so it's not hard to imagine, that there exist subsections that would like it to be inscribed into law. A person you're talking to doesn't know where you fall on such issues, but you're necessarily assuming that whatever gender-affirming care entails is acceptable regardless of the details (again begging the question). And your interlocutor might simply reject that.
Fippy bippy
We're going to string you people up in public spaces.
Abortions hurt the unborn child
Gender affirming care destroys families
Homosexuals rape kids
I think the gun is innocent under the right light, necessary even
dont like abortion?
dont get one
K then why do my taxes pay for em?
Don't like guns?
Don't purchase one.
I'm surprised you would use the word dysphoria. I think it's accurate but if you follow the implications you might see how insane it sounds to treat dysphoria by accommodating it. if a stick-thin person has body dysmorphia and an associated eating disorder would you give them liposuction so that their body is more to their liking? No, you teach them to accept their body.
in the case where the "trans person" acknowledges they cannot change their biological sex, then why mess with it at all? if gender is performative (I have no issue with this definition) then be a manly woman, or a feminine man... why is there such an emphasis on chemical and body mutilation? (the answer is mental illness and corporate psychopaths)
Dont like rape? Dont walk outside dressed like a whore
Funny how they never apply this attitude to free speech.
Don't like what other people are talking about?
Don't listen to them
Absolute midwits incapable of seeing their own hyocrisy.
Pushing tranny ideology on children hurts other people too.
Abortion hurts other people
Faggots hurt other people
Mentally ill trannies hurt other people
Don't like murder then just don't murder.
What kind of simpleton thinks this way.
Don't like slavery then just don't own slaves, simple!
Morons!
Read newspaper
See article praising homosexuality
Open Anon Babble
See gay person getting interviewed
Open jewflix
See gay person starring in a movie
Go to wage slavery job
Must participate in gay celebration month
People were getting real tired of this shit, which is why USA cut them back.
War with Russia or Iran will certainly feel better now right?
The Bible literally gives instructions on how to perform an abortion for god sake, infringing on one’s right to an abortion is infringing on the practices outlined in Christian scripture.
Where does it say this?
Baste.
Yes, I will not allow pedophiles to groom vulnerable children.
Dont like Genocide?
Dont prevent one
Yes because
don’t like <insert nonwhite group>
don’t live with them
isn’t an option. Apparently it is their right to come live in our country against the will of our people.
Hmm stats are saying gun own ship is low all over USA. Might as well not push pride propagada either.
it's wrong and it will stop
Conservatives starts it 1st. Might as well be picking between Jews and Muslims.
can't even answer the question
Kek
You like those things?
Don't bother me about it.
Pride month is an excellent illustration of the complete lack of self-conscience on the part of the left in that sense.
Womemes btfo
Visit a pride event. See fisting and piss drinking in public. Degeneracy.
BTW they need to outlaw guns, big trucks, and every word I don't like to hear
fpbp. These are the same people that see someone open carry in Texas and freak out about it.
Cool, don’t ask taxpayers to fund your degeneracy.
Everyone of those things has or does use taxpayer money.
Maybe we should start having taxes willingly paid by degenerates and no one else.
Roasties can pay collectively to fund their own cock carousels and free housing after they found themselves after three kids from 2 felons and a failed musician with a big dong instead of single men she wouldn’t date taxes paying for her hud house and childcare when she doesn’t work.
This woman you just know resorted to Zoom to watch her kids after each and every one of her family members and friends would no longer watch her kids anymore so she could party and sleep with different men every weekend.
don't like racist/sexist/homophobic words?
don't say them you faggot nigger cunt.
when did people firebomb budlight sellers or anyone else on that list, kek
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