So since christianity makes us always call ourselves sinners and seek forginess cuz we are automatic sinners all the...

The bible is so fucking gay to read. Someone translate this shit to zoomer already.

If you submit to the laughable framework of being born in sin before even taking your first breath, you have already lost.

I have no idea. Shit doesn't make any sense anyway.

if you don't want to live forever in peace, keep it up. you deserve hell, as do we all, but by grace we can be saved THROUGH FAITH ALONE
reject this and hellfire is literally stoked with your name on it

You are rotten to the core with sin and we will look upon your burning wailing miserable damned soul from the habitation of heaven.
Look on this German cuck and realize the result of the last century of demoralizing his people, Now he will follow the kikes into hell. Sad!

It doesn't make us call ourselves sinners. We are in fact sinners, none are righteous. Its a natural law as real as gravity.

It's a mind control thing, it's a mammal behavior modification thing, the fact that it exists and the fact that at the end of the day it works and leaves the people who do it better off than the ones who didn't, is its own justification, like a weapon in hand and provisions in a pack gives certain ranges of motion and certain unique advantages to the person who has it, Christianity is in that class of things.

The people pushing God up in the sky and the afterlife know full well that there is no such thing, it's as thin as the idea of alien spaceships or the vision of iron man suit of armor around the whole world. The afterlife isn't real, but if you force it into the next closest thing that does exist, your future and the future of those you care about, you will find what you need to know why these things persist while your nations come and go like the four seasons.

You can't so easily dismiss this dune manual created by the Egyptians and Syrians between Iran Babylon and Cairo Egypt. They created the foundation stone from which all of your shitty Jewish State nations operate.

You are looking at the "Operating System" of the human male. Without which, if this male is not on your side, we are content to have all of you, yes even the high functioning ones, murdered with extreme prejudice, discrimination, and malice evil aforethought in the perpetration of such crime, and that crime will fall on deaf ears, because this OS is also where you get your idea of "correctional facilities" i.e. "going to jail because you killed someone to take their stuff".

Something you see the Jews doing, but legally.

You can't just delete the thing and declare victory like the Jewish state wants. That will cause an immediate expulsion of these shapeshifting polyergusformica.

So since christianity makes us always call ourselves sinners and seek forginess cuz we are automatic sinners all the freaken time, that means we can actually do actual sins all the time since even if we didn’t sin we are still automatic sinners having to seek forgiveness eventho we didn’t fucking do anything so we may as well actually sin then huh?

This is the way of thinking that distinguishes a Jew from a Christian.

uah yeah it is possible retard, i only ever had sex with the person i married and i didn’t shoplift or anything bad

try NKJV

Your concept of 'sin' is jewish and I laugh at you being unable to form even a single thought without jewish mythology influencing it.

it's not, by saying you're sinless you're saying you're perfect. nobody is perfect and you're not expected to be

++Matthew 19:16-30, you only need to keep the 7 commandments against grave sin against your fellow man
++Luther: Sin Boldly. Christ is doing the punishment for you, cuz fuck that Jesus guy.
++Aquinas: every thought is a moral sin that sends you straight to hell. Just got out of the confessional? Well you're already damned for looking at the sexy foot of the woman kneeling in the pew ahead of yours.

have you ever masturbated once ever?
if so that makes you unworthy of entering Heaven

It’s a Christian fantasy that goy live in sin. The goy only have 7 commandments to follow and most goy follow them appropriately.

get a bible, not a KJV.

There's no such thing as the afterlife. It's fake. You're falling for a scam.

I swear to god the popes came out with to much blasphemy

Rules for Goyim:

Worshiping any deity other than the one God is forbidden.

Curse or disrespect God is forbidden.

The taking of human life is prohibited.

Adultery is forbidden.

Stealing is prohibited.

It is forbidden to consume meat taken from a living animal.

To establish a system of laws to maintain order and justice

You're not free to sin, and you're a sinner because of the choices you make. The original sin was paid for with Christ's blood, and you in your baptism are born anew and freed from it. However, not sinning is basically impossible because humans are so easily corruptible and live in a corrupted world. You are supposed to seek forgiveness because you are supposed to recognize your self-destructive behaviors and genuinely try to repent and change yourself to be more righteous and just and dedicated to the truth, the way God wanted you to be. That you are weak is expected, what is important is that you try to be strong, even if you fail.

And you did do something wrong. Posting the question you did proves your arrogance. Following the rules without understanding them or understanding but trying to subvert them is what the Pharisees did, it's what the Jews do today. It is no different from not following them at all.

so noo
thing is made perfect in gods image… sounds like herasy

So since christianity makes us always call ourselves sinners and seek forginess cuz we are automatic sinners all the freaken time, that means we can actually do actual sins all the time since even if we didn’t sin we are still automatic sinners having to seek forgiveness eventho we didn’t fucking do anything so we may as well actually sin then huh?

That's what's easy believeism fake Christianity tells you Christianity is but not what the Bible says. The Bible says you are to crucify the old man and be born again and repent of your sin. Repenting of your sin means turning away from it, not just saying you're sorry in some altar call. You stop doing it, or at least completely intend on stopping to do it. You might screw up but you haven't repented If you have any intention to ever commit the sit again. Jesus says to pick up your cross and follow him. If you're following him he will never lead you to sin. The Bible only says all men have sinned. That's past tense. You're supposed to stop it.

Not true. The old testiment says spilling your seed makes you unclean. IIRC, you had to do a small penance, not even a sacrifice.
It's confused as the Sin of Onan. Onan was to give his brother's widow an heir, so she wouldn't starve to death. Instead, he fucked her but pulled out, spilling his seed. God killed him for that, as it forced his brother's widow into prostitution. The rest of the passage is also screwed up, like when she asks for what old while being prostituted by her father in law.

Then do it for the white race. Because keeping the Damned by God Jews out is such a good thing, and Christianity does that.

All is forgiven through Christ and penance except blaspheming the Holy Spirit.

You are obsessed with death

what do you mean?

No you're referring to the verse about nocturnal emissions, wet dreams.
Masturbation is a sin because it's the physical act of lusting. It's also corrupting God's design for what sex is.

Christianity is a riddle box.
Atheists get frustrated and give up, missing the point.
Christians don't get it either they think all they have to do is feel better than others and wait to die.
No, Jesus said be perfect.
I did it, so can you.
Literally just actually try.
The answer is obvious once you get it.

Christianity is the whole reason that you have infinite gibs for israel and every politician in america sucks jewish cock. Christianity is not the solution - it's the problem.

I don’t think you understand the simplicity of it, you simply believe the gospel to be saved. It’s a permanent event after simple faith. Just because you believe doesn’t make you automatically not a sinner, your body is fucked up but your only penalty is the immediate consequences of your actions here on earth. Your destination isn’t changed, (everyone thinks that this is perverted or evil, and I’m telling you you’d literally have to be God himself in order to merit this, no one does and that’s why it’s still considered “fair” to anyone who knows they’re fucked up)

Religion hates Jesus, and Jesus hates religion for a reason, Jesus has beef with pride and religion is man trying to fix his problems by trying to become God, what you’re actually doing is worshipping yourself in some vain repeatitive performer shit, when this is actually driving you to become an apostate, and apostates don’t need to be atheist to be religious.
The dichotomy never was atheism/religion, it’s always ever been believer/religion-atheist. The latter two are functionally the same accounting for the truth of the dichotomy. The same applies to agnosticism. The proof agnostics cannot dismiss lies in the fact that Satan exists by proof of religion existing itself. Satan is not a stereotypical red skinned satyr, he’s a bearer of light, which means he’s actually acting as a gatekeeper and mixes the truth with a lie in subtly.

This is why Jesus argued with priests the most and called religious leaders blind guides that shut up heaven before everyone else suffering none of them to enter. He called them gatekeepers by describing what they were actually doing. Jesus was trying to warn you about what Religion actually does to the soul. Matthew 7:21 was the warning directly to religious people trusting what they do in light of the law instead of simply believing the gospel by faith. Notice how the people in the passage quote what they do.

God keeps his Kingdom like you would want to keep yours. He needs to vet who gets to live there. We are all wild dogs but we need to show a willingness to be potty trained. A dog happily pooping everywhere no care given can't come in.

I will hear no more of this Hebrew nonsense

If Jesus said the Kingdom of Heaven is within, how can you be barred entrance?
Think harder.

you should strive to be Christ like. I don't get your point here

Blame Adam and Eve. They wanted to know what good and evil was and boy are we all getting a thorough lesson.

He thinks Adam and Eve were real people

and you gotta be real good this year or Santy claus wont bring you any presents for christmas

Christianity doesn’t do this. The ((people)) who disingenuously subvert others under the guise of religious piety do this. This affords them a most unfavourable spiritual treatment. I’m Christian and can see this quite plainly.

Please do not bore me with bronze age levantine desert dweller mythology.

No, they were shown the difference between good and evil, and this is how pride crept in. You can’t have pride in doing what’s expected of you when you’re unaware of how to do it wrong. The arrogance built up from this effect is what God was trying to protect man from, and is constantly combatting religion all through out the book because religion is the systemic representation of self worship in the veiled form of obedient worship. These people are attempting in vain to perfect themselves and they’re quite literally trying to do what Satan is currently attempting to do. This is why Jesus clashed with priests the entire time during his ministry.

They’re apostates signified specifically as the type of character Balaam exhibited. Essentially inside men that subvert the church for money.

Shockingly close to the first step. Realize you are a sinner based on YOUR actions. Realize you can't stop and deserve punishment. Jesus saved you anyway if you believe on him. You dont get into heaven from sinning less or feeling bad, you get into heaven by putting your faith in Jesus who died on the cross and returned from the dead. When you put your faith on him instead of your own righteousness you are judged based on his actions rather than your own. You are guaranteed to go to heaven and can never be lost no matter what your future actions are.

Romans 5:8
But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

Galatians 2:21
I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.

Galatians 3:17-26
And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect.
For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise.
Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

Sexual drive is meant to motivate men into finding a woman to have children with.

Instead men jerk off alone in their rooms day after day and die alone.

Yes it's been corrupted. Seeing Anon Babble yesterday showed the end result of following the gooner path and it was unholy.

It's within by letting Jesus and the Holy Spirit in to guide you to the narrow path. Once done you want to turn away from sin. You aren't perfect but you are at least moving in the right direction.

I honestly don't care what you believe. You made your choice. Hopefully something in your life will change your mind but that's not my problem. You seem to think people believing in God is your problem.

Wrong.
I'm perfect.
If it weren't possible Jesus wouldn't have asked it if us.
Think harder.

Jesus is the narrow path, not your own (self) righteousness. You're a modern day pharisee.

Matthew 7:13-14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

John 14:6
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.

You can’t be saved by turning from sin, it’s by grace. Nineveh turned from their sins and its even written in the book that doing so is recognized as a work. Salvation has nothing to do with that, it’s literally your mere belief. Jesus was basically telling us that we’re broken and the way in which we seek to make it right is infact the wrong way because our sense of righteousness is tainted by pride and for something corrupted to try and perfect yourself after already sinning against God is I M P O S S I B L E, we already stand condemned by the law in the flesh.

You’re teaching galatian error. Galatian error is essentially Judiazed Christianity.

I'm perfect.

You gave away all your possessions?

1 John 1:8
If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

Ecclesiastes 7:20
For there is not a just man upon earth, that doeth good, and sinneth not.

Psalm 14:2-3
The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.
They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is none that doeth good, no, not one.

Isaiah 64:6
But we are all as an unclean thing, and all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags; and we all do fade as a leaf; and our iniquities, like the wind, have taken us away.

Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Mark 10:18
And Jesus said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God.

All men have sinned yet Jesus said to be perfect.
It's doable.
I did it.

No you didnt.

And my life.

Understand your skepticism but I did.
The Bible is a puzzle and with God's help I solved it and always made perfect.
You have to actually try.

We experience good and evil every day. The garden of eden did not until an evil spirit manipulated humans. Our mood swings aren't our own. It's spiritual corruption influencing everything we do. We normalize it because it's so prevalent. We need to ask for help from God to recognize it and combat it.
What you are talking about is religions falsely teaching that you can get to heaven through works. Give us sheckles and you are saved! Evil men using the faith of others to enrich and exalt themselves.
The most interesting thing is the pharasies never challenged Jesus miracles. They kept trying to get him on technicalities for mundane things. The letter of the law and not the spirit. Failing that they killed him as they felt their own power being threatened.

he's in a death cult

Yet you are bragging about how perfect you are in your life. You are pointing towards your life and your actions and not pointing towards the life and actions of Jesus. Do you want me to worship you, oh perfect one?

I want you to try.
Because that's what Jesus said to do.
Be perfect, as your Father who made you is perfect.

Literally suggesting Pharisees do the impossible because they’re legalists in context whereas the whores he just preformed a miracle in front of and then turned around to the priests saying the were entering heaven before them if at all, and you think Jesus was literally telling them to do something only God could do on merit.

No because I'm not under the law and you'll never put me back under it, jew.

Not by merit but by God.
Know God.

Do you love Jews?

Literally the only being that can merit salvation by the law is the being the law is literally written to identify. Yes, it’s quite literally by merit and that’s why Jesus says “be perfect” because you’d literally have to be God himself in order to do it in the way that the priests were suggesting.

If you were perfect God wouldn't ask us to repent and seek forgiveness. You can't address what you won't acknowledge.

Jesus knows all men sin.
He still told us to be perfect.
He wasn't joking.
It's possible, you just need to think hard about how it could be possible.

No I dont perfectly love people the way Jesus would and I dont claim to. I dont lie to myself about how perfect I am in the flesh. I am chief among sinners, in my flesh dwells no good thing. I'm only saved by the blood of Jesus Christ who died on the cross for me and rose again on the third day.

I forgive my trespassers and my debtors therefore God forgave me.
But that did not make me perfect.
God did.

It’s literally by faith. Final reply.

Then you do not forgive trespasses so God will not forgive you.
Simple as.

Ephesians 2:8-9
For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
Not of works, lest any man should boast.

Romans 3:19-28
Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God.
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
Even the righteousness of God which is by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference:
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;
Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law.

Romans 4:3-7
For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.
Even as David also describeth the blessedness of the man, unto whom God imputeth righteousness without works,
Saying, Blessed are they whose iniquities are forgiven, and whose sins are covered.

If you had faith, you'd do the works of Jesus and move the mountain.

Explain the purpose of repenting.

2 Chronicles 7:14

If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.

You're the one pointing out trespasses and commending people for it. I'm saying the Lord forgives all trespasses if you put your faith in him. You are saying you have no trespasses.

Found the edomite khazar fake penis mutilator.

A certain sect of jewish priests were referred to in one of the jewish prophet books as being red, white, and blue and then becoming black.
This is absolute proof that the penis mutilating schizophrenic rat people who invented most of the things that make judaism abhorrent today are actually the genetic ancestor of both Celtic and Germanic people. This also proves that modern jews are actually a European people who stole infant penis mutilation for the God of Moses from the Celtic and Germanic people (who are actually middle eastern with no ancestry in Europe 3000 years ago).

Post visage or you prove that you are a jew.
(we wuz jews (middle eastern jews, not fake european descended jews))

CHRIST IS KING

Which mountains did you move?

you'd do the works of Jesus

You dont move mountains, you arent perfect, you havent been crucified, you didnt die for my sins.

Think of it this way:
There's all these demons and shit and you know about the stories where you make some shitty bargain with them and they get your soul but you get to do some scummy shit like get ahead without the hard work or whatever.
What if there was an opposite thing? Where there's like God and angels and shit and if you follow his rules by making a pact he'll reward you with power? Christians will say that they have this all but I wouldn't exactly call that lot trustworthy. Yeah you get eternal life and a regeneration body... after you die?

It's land of the goblins, they're all goblins

I'm showing you there is more to it than you think.
God moved my mountain.
I am in heaven while I live like Enoch.
I want others to achieve this by knowing God.

Castration is an option for men who succumb to temptation the Lord even suggests it.

if you follow his rules by making a pact he'll reward you

Romans 4:4-5
Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.

No retard, in order to be forgiven you have to REPENT.

Time will tell

People castrating themselves to join temples was really common in Babylon and maybe less common elsewhere in the eastern Mediterranean. The Bible doesn't exist in a vacuum.

the wages of sin are death. repent

God moved my mountain.

symbolic, moving mountains and getting crucified is just like a feeling man

Tell me which literal mountains you are able to move and which people you raised from the dead. I'd like to hear about how you do the works of Jesus. You've parted a few seas and walked on water or are these mostly just like feelings? Remember, you are the one claiming to do these wonderful works.

Matthew 7:22-23
Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

When did you stop sinning?

"Repent from your sins" isnt in the bible nor is "repent of your sins." Repent means to change your mind and start believing in Christ.

You said only God could make a man perfect.
I say I am perfect because God made me perfect.
There, the mountain has been moved and the sea has been split.

There is no hope for me personally
Christ is my only hope

You are saying you are perfect in the flesh.

Repent means to change your mind and start believing in Christ.

this is what modern heretics actually believe

Yes.
Which is what Jesus asked.
Now I have sinned, and I do things that you could argue are sins.
However, I tell you, I am perfect.
How?

Through the practice of sincere repentance for all the wrongdoings we have done in the past, we can eliminate our karmic obstacles and purify our body and mind, thereby restoring the precepts that have been broken, attaining Samadhi, and developing in wisdom.

You are always accumulating karma, "good" and "bad", through repentance you can ease your karmic debt. Your animal self is to be overcome because it is what keeps you in this world, but it's always there and acting on it sometimes is just in your nature. Repentance is to help yourself.

youtube.com/watch?v=Lg-b1i3_dJ0

“Christ died for our sins. Dare we make his martyrdom meaningless by not committing them?” Jules Feiffer

Korean girls worship jesus christ. they HATE ugly chinese pigs like tenda lung spencer.

just because God stopped caring about sacrifices and sin chickens and such doesn't mean the moral bar is set any lower

Do you believe that all people have in some capacity or another the ability to do evil? Congrats you believe in original sin like us. And yes that includes little kids. It's why you have to teach them not to hit each other or poke the dog in the eyes.

yes
to fail is human
to forgive, divine
but only once can we turn the cheek. a man can forgive your crimes once. if you wrong him again he may send you to Jesus. Only God can forgive over and over again
at the core of Christian thought is the idea of repentence: Original sin? Baptism. Centruries of degeneracy? Jesus died for your sins. Sinned again? Confession, prayer. Stole a bike? Locked in the pillory and pelted with tomatoes. Problem? Solution.
There is a reason why Christian civilization has thrived while everyone else remains third world shitholes. Maybe it is the genes. I argue the genes led to a superior mode of thought, one in which people are strongly incentivized to avoid degeneracy, but not stoned to death if they fuck it up once in a while.

It means even at our best we still have infractions.

Some of the reason is in the Confiteor
I confess to almighty God,
and to you, my brothers and sisters,
that I have greatly sinned
through my thoughts and in my words,
in what I have done, and in what I have
failed to do;
through my fault, through my fault,
through my most grievous fault;
therefore I ask blessed Mary ever-Virgin,
all the Angels and Saints,
and you, my brothers and sister,
to pray for me to the Lord our God.

Literally, someone born without original sin would be the Virgin Mary, who's still a person capable and experienced with all emotions, but never gave into rage, only trying to rectify a situation like someone mugging her to the best of her ability without disproportionate or solely punitive retribution. None of us can be perfect all the time, and if we didn't have parents how much harder, and how much less stable and knowledgeable about the repercussions (i.e. not having our own knowledge and background to let us feel sympathy such as our dad telling us what we did wrong, why it was wrong, then spanking us with the full force of a body building handle-bar mustasche cop, so we could never justify our own actions to ourselves) we would be of to be much more allured by the prospects. You may not even need advanced knowledge, just fundamentals and love, not your own desires causing you to marry someone you didn't know, divorcing, and then giving birth to a troubled youth (sin).

The Virgin Mary was a pauper, yet she innately knew not to do these horrible things. when she had Jesus, it was "Immaculate Conception" because despite being mortal, there was absolute ZERO lust in her union with Joseph. They went on to have many children.

Not only that, but someone without original sin, if they suspected they had committed a sin innocuously would try to rectify that sin immediately, they'd also have a work outlook where they were always doing something, whether helping, building knowledge, etc., but never at the expense of their conscience even at their academically worst, or when the project is really suffering.

worship the jews fr fr no cap

There you go

All these things are why She came to us much earlier to Dominic in 1209 Anno Domini, via heavenly proclamation of the Rosary,

So that we could introspect better on those things the Virgin Mary did what she felt, how she did it, as a mortal born without original sin, but still feeling all the feelings we had.

a man can forgive your crimes once. if you wrong him again he may send you to Jesus

Jesus said you must forgive "77" (infinity) times.
If someone wrongs you his sin is yours to bear

It should be noted that the Rosary works best if you have gone to Church so you have a good inclination about what's going on in the scene, but if not many rosary guides feature imagery, and they also point out what sacred mystery is being introspected, but it still helps to know that Mary asked Jesus to make wine, and despite the Him saying "it is not yet my time," he still did so. and all the nuances of why he did so, and what that indicated to how much he loved and respected Mary as His mother.

The purpose of the Rosary is to "turn away from ourselves," namely we are imagining Mary at these moments and trying to gleem subtle but overt and profound nuances from these scenes, sometimes these nuances are successfully introspected, sometimes not, but they still come so long as you do the Rosary.

Also, sometimes "In what I have failed to do" can mean that you didn't have the ability to think of a way to redress an arguement strongly enough that the opposition would remember so you resort to chastising, or you feel that they still harbor an underlying kernel to their worldview your trying to discredit to get the point across that this general way of thinking they're predisposed to is innately ludicrous.