About "biological races" and the implications on politics

What is the implication for the policies of each region of the world, such as those of identity and "patriotism" in Europe, if the standardized races, especially those standardized by Americans from a biological point of view, do not exist?

How are these policies and the identity and sense of being of each nation sustained, especially those that are ancient like China, India, Europe, Japan, etc.? Take, for example, population biologist Zach Hancock, who to this day has not been refuted on this site.

youtube.com/watch?v=zKwZH8MvPj8&t=535s

The continuum fallacy of his argument is constantly discussed, but it is explained as follows.

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Biologically discrete or continuous is not a vague predicate; there truly ~are~ discrete populations in nature. We even have statistical tests for identifying discrete structure (though a simple linear regression is often all you need). For populations continuously distributed but with discrete structure, you find a "jump" in the isolation-by-distance curve that corresponds to the discrete break in gene flow. Chimpanzees, for example, show discrete breaks in their isolation-by-distance curves despite being geographically close, and hence have true biological "races" or "subspecies". Humans do not show this pattern, and thus don't.

The continuum fallacy would be committed if and only if ~all~ biological populations were truly continuous, with no discrete breaks, or that identifying discrete breaks is arbitrary (like specifying a certain wavelength for the color "red"). But as I already stated, this is not the case - biological populations can have discrete structure that is readily identified. Since Mayr (1942), we have used discreteness for taxonomic designations like race or subspecies and rejected continuous structure as a product of limited dispersal because, ultimately, taxonomy below the species level is about identifying incipient species, which cannot form in the presence of continuous gene flow.

shut the fuck up, faggot

I don’t believe in race but ethnic congruity simply because we are descendants of forefathers passing down their specific genes and so long as the female line isn’t a different face then all that matter is tribe. That is why Jews are so dominant, they only care about tribe not regionalism or race.

*race of female line

I find it hilarious that basically 8 billion people accept the existence of race except you.

If races aren't real, then make DEI illegal.
Try to answer that one.

Funny thing how their character turned their skin dark.

biological race doesn’t exist

differences in genetics determine things like skin color, facial features, and predisposition to certain diseases

Pick one you absolute fucking idiots. You can’t just keep splitting semantic hairs in order to get away from inconvenient truths.

Pick one you absolute fucking idiots. You can’t just keep splitting semantic hairs in order to get away from inconvenient truths.

You can go and argue on the comment section of his video:

who to this day has not been refuted on this site.

I usually just post this picture with a snarky comment ridiculing them, like

this does not exist. Look at these charts and graphs. See?

Thanks for effort posting. It seems to me that the entire field of taxonomy assumes discreteness, does it not? And they aren't saying: "all life is a soup of genes, so throw out taxonomy, we're all bananas".

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they are called autosomal clusters in genomics. sure biölogical "races" dont exist, fine, but dna clustering that matched cultural and geographic borderd of ethnicities is VERY REAL.

Me agree on this.
You need another definition or names for those concepts.

"race", the white race", "aryan race", "black race", are simply artificial, specially those definitions from the USA and the anglosphere..

the negro problem

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bantu, pygmy and negrito are not the same species
pygmy are a case of forest dwarfism and negritos a case of island dwarfism
you can not find a single non hominid where dwarfism does not result in its own species classification I tried to find one

I love how they made "the cheddar man" brown then they found his living relative a few miles away

If biological race isn't teal there should be no affirmative action, race based admissions, black business societies, naacf, or any of that other crap.
But guess what, race is real

It’s not real yet white people are the bane of all brown people am I right my fellow insufferable redditors?

If biological race as the USA and americans perpetuated it, sure, it's not real and none of that should exist.

race is not a biological concept, species and subspecies are
africans are multiple species of hominid in a non anthropocentric system of classification

More lies race is supernatural and Indian Olympic media count creyiniteand then blacks cheating lying and sucking same nigger shit lie claim raven's not real like this bot then same noggrr promotes deu mongloid head and cheddar man was not

The clusters match the vulgar notions of race. It's just arguing semantics. If I can accurately distinguish your lineage by your fucking bones, you're a distinct group.

The Cheddar Man lived 10,000 years ago. White skin hadn't evolved yet

you fall into a framing where they are technically correct, race does not exist
but by proper biological classification multiple hominid species are alive today as many as 100

his specific pigmentation is a reconstruction

May we see this "proper biological classification"?

If they don’t have the same YDNA they are not related. Period.

Science is setled. We will fire scientists until all of them agree.

I can't stop laughing because he looks exactly like you would expect him too

Great, so what are the 100 classified hominid races? Could you link the entire work

I'm having a hard time understanding you and your explanation for why the concept of biological race as we know it in human beings is non existent. Could you reiterate in laymen's terms? I'm not that smart.

the entire biological classification system is arbitrary here is how you can prove it in hominids
prebunking

speciazation can happen in a single generation

different species can have fertile offsprings

phenotype was and is being used as categorization for species not DNA delineation

neanderthals are a different species and had fertile offsprings with "homo sapiens"

show me one example in the animal kingdom of forest/insular dwarfism having the same species as their normal sized variant

I am not the guy who said there is 100 of them but it's really stupid and desesperate to pretend that race don't exist.

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bald

glasses

soiface

he could be the smartest man alive and I still wouldn't listen to him

previous a species was simply a phenotype group as we went by observation
darwin finches can interbreed and mixes are common

Wrangel Island mammoths

Well if it's so obvious and easy, surely you can link the origin of those images and maybe some other studies that easily prove it

Race is perfectly real when they discuss white privilege, but then white people don't exist when discussing their shared interests.

The guy responsible for the cheddar man reconstruction has admitted he is politically motivated.

Race is the old French word for breed, its usage is correct. Just because someone thinks their mutt is a pure corgi doesn't change this.

The Wrangel Island mammoths were slightly smaller than their mainland woolly mammoth (Mammuthus primigenius) ancestors, but they were not true dwarfs like some other island mammoth species (e.g., the Channel Islands pygmy mammoth, Mammuthus exilis).

They have cheddar mans descendants are working for the BBC. How can racist deny this?

based

Merely slightly smaller

wow what a funny ((((coincidence))))

The guy responsible for the cheddar man reconstruction has admitted he is politically motivated.

Kenni's brothers?

My mistake, the scientist behind the project, not the guys who did the model.
There were even articles talking about it in the context of Brexit and whatnot.
It's blatant propaganda. Nothing that makes Europeans feel like they're being replaced in their homelands can be allowed.

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if biological race isn't real, then why do people get upset when I shout NIGGER at midnight at the Apollo Theatre?

some black people live in europe so race doenst exist

are the academics ok? why cant they lie coherently anymore?

by this logic animals dont exist either. he'd love that i suppose

Ask them

everybody is different therefore we can't examine or draw patterns from the differences

This was never an argument.

Red and yellow doesn’t exist because orange exists.

Thats not the bbc, its gbnews

race are subspecies

buy an ad faggot

You btfo yourself with pic related. The people who released the Cheddar Man study admitted to giving him dark skin and kinky hair for political reasons.

Science was supposed to be an impartial pursuit of knowledge and truth, now it's just a means to lend credibility to the social issues du jour.
Even Richard Dawkins is now a persona non grata because he doesn't play along with tranny delusions.

It’s the same thing. Race is just a convenient word ffs

Black skin came after white skin, when we lost most of our body hair.

Race is a biological, inheritable, genetic and immutable fact. You can tell someone's race from a drop of their blood or the shape of their skull etc. Even in organ donation they want the donors to be the same race as the recipient because it is most compatible.

The statement that race doesn't exist is a political or ideological one, not a scientific one.

Aye. If race isn’t real the racism can’t be real

there are no differences in the races

the reason why the browner races have such a hard time is because of the whiter ones

So there is a difference in behaviour then across races?

no actually, it's all about culture

Then what is it about "African culture" prevented them from inventing the wheel?
What is it about "Chinese culture" could simply "forget" about just how useful gunpowder is?

The raceblind soi has no answers. And yet he won't shut the fuck up about how hard brown people have it because of whites while insisting race isn't a thing.

They’re not artificial they’re just convenient categories to approximate the same meaning for fucks sake

commit continuum fallacy

obfuscate

pilpul

Kys

You leftist freaks are always disingenuous fucks

standardized races, especially those standardized by Americans

Mutts don't see races the same as others do
to them, a swedenianXpoortugueseXpaddieXfingolian is a White
in those respective natural habitats, such things can't even happen
sure, subspecies (the proper term for races) are the outcome of mixing
mixing that took millenia to happen, and not even close as much as Mutts do in one or two generations
that's the funniest thing, with calling them Mutts: they don't even actually understand what we mean

I'm honestly quite surprised and even have a tiny bit of admiration for the guy in the pic not deleting his entire comment section which is filled with people who disagree with him.

move to a nigger neighborhood and report back in a month

this thread again.

Racial groupings are self imposed, they are based on history, genetics, culture and heritage.

Mutt mystery meat tells me my race does not exist

Cool story bro!

race doesn't exist

Then explain niggers?

Checkmate can't refute.

He is a faggot therefore he enjoys getting drilled in the ass

Wow there really is hope. The pessimist in me would have expected the opposite

If there was nothing to phrenology then why does this faggot look exactly how i'd expect him to look?

dumb spic

see

just mix everything bro

it's reductive to say biological race doesn't exist, there are biological differences in different people's of the world and those differences form part of people's identity.

If race doesn't exist then the next thing these ideologues should say is that there is virtually no biological differences between man and Chimpanzees. Very very little.

be scientism proponent

gets rekt by his acolytes

Yes

He didn't refute the point you retard. He said he can't be committing the continuum fallacy because there happen to be actual discrete, non-continuous biological categories outside of the human species. But that obviously has literally zero bearing on whether or not his argument reduces to denying categorization within *any* continuous phenomenon, including the colour spectrum. He is unable to refute this obvious objection and just focuses on essentialist strawmen instead, like any lying leftoid.

biological race isn't real

but this racial debt from your race is

not for mine though just yours

I wont feel bad at all for any of them

Doesnt address the ghost hominid ancestors in Africans that are not in anyone else and yet were all OOA? Cant take this freak seriously scientist or not, sounds more like a fucking leftist matter of fact white hating cocksuker r,fuck even the best of their scientists are being reamed in what they thought they knew for centuries on the daily, they seem fucking useless unless its making something to kill others with and then the pricks are all about that.

This guy needs cultural enrichment posthaste. Then again just looking at him I can tell that he's into cuckoldry.

Why does that skeleton have an “ear bone”?

if the standardized races, especially those standardized by Americans from a biological point of view, do not exist?

and yet...

"Genetic studies using very few chromosomal loci find that genetic polymorphisms divide human populations into clusters with almost 100 percent accuracy and that they correspond to the traditional anthropological categories."

Walsh, A., Yun, I., "Race and Criminology in the Age of Genomic Science", Social Science Quarterly, (October 2011).

wait until he learns about the dick bone

Basically this faggot OP is qualifying his argument by creating a false frame. No *biological* race.

It's like saying there are no *thermodynamic* differences between cars. No-one thinks of cars purely in this way and it is reductive to do so.

Anita Sarkeesian is Armenian, not Jewish.

you don't get armenian jews?