I hope the people that willingly voted for this benefactor of nepotism and Russian cock sucker starve to death. I mean honestly, how the fuck do you people cheer against your own survival instincts? You want to pay more for food, energy, goods and essentially have a tax on literally hundreds of billions of items coming into the country. I believe the Eastern Hempishere, plus Canada and Mexico should just hop on the BRICS train and tell the US to eat a rock hard dick. The US just started a trade war and possibly started WW3. We are living in a moment in history. People centuries later will find this funny, people living in the now will suffer. I hope you like paying the current income tax rates along with the tariffs, but you retards can't do math so I wouldn't expect you to understand how much money the normal American is losing over each individual's life time. Low balling net loss for the country, you're talking at minimum several trillions of dollars in just several years.
The largest tax increase in human history and you retards love it
We have a federal budget deficit of $2 billion.
Didn’t read; OP is an upset troon and should kill itself
Did you expect something else from Magats
The only positive thing is that hopefully people will kill each other
Fuck you faggot! You thought covid store raids were bad, it's going to be 20 times worse than that when you have people hoarding months of food in advanced. People are selfish, covid proved it. Instead of people working together, you will have more division to the point where right and left wing politics won't matter.
We're at the point where it isn't funny anymore. These are real world consequences that affect everyone on Anon Babble and everyone offline. It's nonsense.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
HAHAHAHA
WHY ISNT MY SHILLING WORKING???????????
Who would tell Americans not to produce their own goods?
You leftists are so financially illiterate it's crazy. We don't need their imports, most are luxary items or Chinese crap, not consumer goods. The USA has ALL the leverage when it comes to global trade because our market supports these unproductive country's industries. Without our market they can't sell their goods.
Deranged people like OP need to be forced to answer why every other country can use tariffs to protect their domestic industries EXCEPT America???
let me tell you whats gonna happen
lol you’re in for a rude awakening if you think an economy of consumers holds leverage over the producers who can sell to everyone else but you and not really lose sleep over it. this isn’t the 90s anymore.
The US hasn't been producers since the 70s, you're an illiterate idiot. The only reason the US gets their way is that they bully the world. We can throw 10 kilometer mini suns at other countries when we stomp and don't get our way. If you believe the US being North Korea is beneficial, you deserve misery. Global trade benefits everyone and it has benefited Americans.
This OP acts like we need all these imports when we don't. We are the largest agricultural exporter in the world and 3rd in oil, our consumer market is double the size of the EU despite having a smaller population, and over three times the size of China's.
America is the big dog and we have all the power and leverage over every other country on earth because our markets, read that: OUR MARKETS are the backbones of huge portions of these foreign importer's economies.
America has the power.
We don't produce because free trade allowed us cheap imports, which is nice, hut it didn't work because that undercut our domestic industries. But that's done now. The free trade Era officially ended yesterday.
The thing is I don't think that you know what you're talking about and your doomsday predictions are total bullshit. I'm willing to roll the dice and find out for sure. Let's do that.
He's totally clueless because he thinks importers have leverage over the USA when it's literally the exact opposite.
You need chips, computers and tech to run the modern world, American billionaires investedin Taiwan for over 30 years and it doesn't pay off because of retarded shit like this.
not if you buy american, it's not.
You and the rest of the commie insurgents are going to buy American and love it, faggot.
another minute another melty, keep it up faglords
USA is 4% of the global population and 25% of the global consumption. It's a market that simply cannot be ignored and cannot be absorbed by ANYONE else. Not capitulating will literally bankrupt producers around the globe. Prepare for oversupply shocks.
Have you ever wondered where your ability to buy more than you sell comes from in the first place? The dollar is artificially strong because its the main world reserve currency. If you punish the world for trading their goods for your dollar, demand for the dollar will crash and there goes your purchasing power. It's hysterical how one conman's say so managed to turn your understanding of the world upside down just because you like what you imagine him to stand for.
Yeah, I buy my own food here to driveling retard.
computers
cars (American cars have sucked for 40 years)
tvs
anything you interface with in the modern world isn't made in the US.
Yes we make chips in Taiwan... and what market do you think those chips are headed for?
producers have the leverage
NOOOOO DON'T BECOME A PRODUCER
wut?
The largest tax increase
For whom?
demand for the dollar will crash
And be replaced by what, the Euro? lmfao
You're trading globalism for autarky
Good.
Those are still tariffed assets. Those are not made by American workers lol, that was the whole point of billionaires investing in cheap labor for a reason.
Totally bullshit, the dollar is strong because our economy is insanely resilient, first because we don't tax businesses and people anywhere close to you, and second is our insanely OP service sector. We generate wealth and value, that's why our dollar is strong, you have it completely backwards.
You literally cannot comprehend how little our economy depends on foreign trade. It's not your fault, the scale of things is simply beyond you.
the people that said there was no inflation and who were perfectly fine sanctioning russia and shit withpout a care about effects on trades, and don't mind that they lost around half of every they posses as inflation rose to 50% in 3 years,
now care about muh taxes and moralize.
you guys are wrong and so will be until proven right.
The only thing you listed that doesn’t have US brands is TVs. We’re bringing back Zenith and you’re going to love it, faggot.
Miggers are now communists
LMAOOOOOO
the average consumer will not cope with the decade+ struggle to get american industry up and running again, to say nothing of those goods meeting cost or quality expectations or those facilities being staffed primarily by imported jeets.
What's going to replace the dollar faggot? Go back to Hasan's stream tranny.
Ask yourself this simple question... if Americans didn't buy the product those chips are used in, where would they sell them? And if you answered that correctly, follow it up with - if we stopped buying them, would those chip manufactures still be in business?
Pretending North America is sustainable forever and ignoring the other half of the planet and getting 7 billion people to hate your guts isn't exactly a high IQ move. God forbid we lose WW3 and the entire world just ignores us and leaves us to rot here because we treated everyone else like shit.
Hey Destiny, suck any cocks today?
Fascism supports the weak over the strong and tells the weakest that they are the strongest based on their selfless slave-like obedience to a so-called greater cause.
This is why fascism actually works; slavery is freedom- a mark of virtue, the weak finding strength from their submission.
A functional system for the slaves at the bottom and everybody is happy with it.
BDSM sado-masochistic erasure of the individual resulting in a prostrating gimp - because peasantry is Built for Big Black Cock since there are no freebee spots in the pimp hierarchy
The Elites are fascist, plebs are plebs
Learn the difference, it might save your life.
How old are you? This is like a 6th grader's take. Hey kid, imagine being in a world war and having zero manufacturing in your country.
If tariffs are so bad then why does every country have tariffs on the United States.
Don't remember you crying when factories were shutting down in the United States and moving overseas
I hope you like paying the current income tax rates along with the tariffs
We’re eliminating the income tax for anyone making under $150k. Get a clue, faggot.
and getting 7 billion people to hate your guts
The rest of the world already spends every waking second bitching about everything we do while simultaneously taking advantage of us. Fuck them.
Must have been top of your fuckin' class.
Already seen many switch to US made alone. There's a city dweller mindset that won't buy American. Hopefully, importation of replacement demographics halts, which is the chink the armor, but overall many have tightened the waistband already, if the production returns. All in all, as a whole it remains to be seen, but I do agree that for it to be effective, it needs to be longer than a 4-yr term.
how are 1+ billion jeets getting online? are people not selling them computers or phones?
the people that willingly voted for this
Couldn't be happier.
it only affects the rich socialists.
If you believe we're dropping income tax you're deluded. You really think the kikes will dismantle a system they worked hard implementing over a century ago?
This is a tax on dumb consumers who buy dumb shit they don't need.
Women will finally be paying taxes.
getting 7 billion people to hate your guts
Half the country hates our guts and it’s all but completely irrelevant. Key another Tesla you impotent faggot.
if you subtract american exports from china’s total export value they are still exceeding 3 trillion dollars without much issue. they’ll be fine.
Ya, that number is going to go up. By a lot. It won't even be close to the last record holder.
Also I assume you meant 2 trillion.
No communist ever put niggers in Germany.
Yes. Countries will love to lose a reliable trade partner. to enter free trade agreements that don't include Muttmerica.
You can do the math, so why not tell us 'how much money the normal American is losing over each individual's life time'?
Also kind of true. The age of retail therapy could be over.
Anon Babble is being swarmed by bots
He's going to remove the bloody income tax. Also, local economies will boom from that.
He knows what he's doing. Don't lose your damned future to globalism.
the average consumer will not cope
The average consumer is a woman. They will cope by throwing a tantrum, so nothing will change.
Have you ever considered the very real fact that you’re just fucking wrong?
Cutting off some stops of the gravy train, is hardly "treating everyone like shit".
I've never heard anyone outside of America say anything nice about us for the 40 years I've been alive.
schleswig holstein
it appears my anglisc language superiority worldwide has led to some butthurt contraversy
kek
they’ll probably cope by not buying anything which i understand is Not Good for the economy.
No, in terms of individual nations, the Chinese are going to take over. They're about as smart as the Japanese and Koreans, and there's more than a billion of them. I wish it wasn't so, and 10, 15 years ago there was a reasonable case that they might plateau at some lower level, but it's time to face reality. You're just accelerating this development by pushing us away on the false premise that we're ripping you off, instead of uniting against them.
Sure, just understand that you'll move from South Korea, US edition to North Korea, US edition.
You're a huge country with high human capital and natural resources, but the version of you where you're waging a trade war against the world will be nowhere near as prosperous as you're now, for the reason stated.
The world depends on you much, much less than you depend on the world. You could pressure any country individually and come out ahead, but the way Trump is antagonizing the entire world will make you the loser in this conflict.
US will just drop in consumption as it raises costs and loses its free money superpower by giving up the dollars reserve status. The rest of the world will get to consume more.
Waaaaaah, anyone who calls out retard Orange Blumpf is a trannie - so says the guys in pic.
You are mentally deficient
I’m not even trying to participate in WW3 you fucking idiot. Crazy how pro-war the left has become since Iraq.
you are a shitskin and should immediately deport yourself
preferably to the bottom.of the ocean with cinder blocks for shoes
Sounds like you win according to your view. Why are you crying about it? You should be supporting it doubly.
Excess USD is usually used to buy treasury bonds. It isn't a mystery, and you aren't giving us a gift as bonds are paid off with interest. In the absence of bonds serving as a permanent sink for USD, the value of the dollar would drop on the foreign exchange market and US-made goods would become more competitive. It is true that our prior way of doing things worked for a bit, but at this point the status quo is actively hurting us as debt payments have become too cumbersome. TNSTAAFL
The largest tax increase in human history
what faggoty hyperbole
there’s nothing about that post that conveys emotional involvement. also, checked.
this, they can flood the catalog all they want but I'm just not feeling the COCONUT BRAT JOY
tariffs are communism
you niggers are severely retarded
nigger nigger nigger nigger
if Americans didn't buy the product those chips are used in, where would they sell them?
To me for half the price.
DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT MY FUNKO POPS ARE ABOUT TO GO FROM $20 TO $35?????
SHITSKINS RAUS
GO BACK TO YOUR SHITHOLES
Take the thread and the original post into context and the necessity to convey such information becomes evident.
Troons on suicide watch
The interest rate on US treasury bonds is so low because of the artificial demand for the dollar. I'm not opposed to you taking measures to re-industrialize if that's what you take to be in your national interest, what I am opposed to is your president deliberately defaming us and misrepresenting the situation to the dumber portion of America.
You on the right, nice ears, Shlomo
the largest kvetching ive ever seen
yes I voted for this
Only American tax payers should pay for the entirety of the world, all 157 million of them. And if anyone says hey that's wrong don't do that to servants in a service economy someone somewhere will hope these already put upon slaves starve to death.
Hilarious how the JIDF squad deploys to defend their demented MIGA Messiah Orange Blumpf whenever anyone calls out his idiotic policy blunders.
Didn't notice any real increase in taxes, nor a decrease in tax refund when I sent them in February.
Are you making shit up again OP?
kek
I VOTED FOR THIS, FAGGOT! LOL
That's pretty much the only way to justify price increases. It's also true that foreign demand for US industrial output being low severely kneecaps our ability to reposition our economy and you guys do engage in a ton of protectionism. However, in the end it's just a litmus test. Literally all any country has to do is send an envoy to the White House, make some pledge to completely remove trade barriers, and the rate goes to 0% overnight. You faggots won't though because you despise us, and that's half the point. Other countries will, and they'll benefit; you won't, and you'll suffer as a result.
Also, the whole global reserve thing only works insofar as (additional) liquid dollars are needed to facilitate trade, and that is only true when the global economy is skyrocketing. Global economic growth slowed after COVID, and it's obviously long-term unsustainable.
How much jewish cock did you suck today?
Mossad hasn't been sending their best lately
fag
tranny
I can't dodge taxes. I can choose not to consume. Deal with it faggot.
Time to invest here instead of Taiwan.
There's two big issues with your position. One, Trump put a baseline 10% tariff on all countries, even those you have a trade surplus with, so the reciprocity is a lie. The actual tariffs against the US, not the numbers made up from the trade deficit, are on average in the low single digits, so there's not even a semblance of reciprocity here.
2, Both Bessent and Trump said that they want to maintain the dollar as the world reserve currency. Doing so while forcing is tolerate lopsided trade conditions is obviously unreasonable.
The largest tax increase in human history
for who OP
We are living in a moment in history.
Nothing actually matters you retarded nigger.
The American consumer x.com
Oh noes... my purchasing power will drop. The average millennial has shit except debt. When the dollar collapses so will the value of my debt. I wonder who will be getting hurt lol. I own land where I can grow food. I can make my own necessities.
Why do you fucking idiots keep calling it "taxes"? When the literal nobody said hundreds of billions of dollars he was talking about money being taken in from tariffs, not a fucking new tax.
Hurrr, the cost will be moved to you
No it won't you fucking idiot, I won't buy shit that suddenly quadrupled in price and the people who can't exist without outsourcing to third world slave labor will stop existing.
Those with wealth lol.
Lol nope. I can cook and grow food. You can use your computer digits to feed yourself. Maybe it will stave off the feral minorities in your neighborhood.
No it won't you fucking idiot,
Yes it will, Shlomo. Orange Blumpf literally had to throw a tantrum and threaten auto makers not raise prices. Gotta love that commie style command economy, but centrally planned economy is fine when your boy is responsible.
I'm fine with losing some money as long as it makes you mad.
NOOO YOU HAVE TO HATE ALL RICH PEOPLE BECAUSE I'M A POOR JEALOUS FAGGOT
why are leftists like this? your life is not going to get better
Yes it will, Shlomo
Ahhh, the classic jew tactic of calling their advisories jew. It really tells you something about them that they know they are the bad guys.
inflation bad under biden
inflation best thing ever under blumf
Its time for amerimutts to start hoarding toilet paper again.
The largest tax increase in human history and you retards love it.
Not only do I love it, but I also voted for it.
No, you see, increasing taxes on everyone making under 500k/yr is exactly what we voted for.
Would expect no less from a retard or Democratic mole. Dems will sweep all the elections when voters sicken of Blumpf depression and will have enough power to impeach him as well and the republican party will be destroyed.
We make all our own toilet paper actually.
Tariffs are an import tax.You can't have it both ways. Either you keep buying tariffed goods, thereby paying the import tax to the government, or you don't buy the goods, and there's no tax revenue to the government.
There is a very particular scenario, depending on the specifics of the market situation in question, where a foreign companies eats part of the tariff by cutting into their profits so the product can be sold at a competitive price in the US, but, looking at profit margins of most goods and the steepness of the tariffs, the bulk of the increased cost will by necessity be passed on to the customer.
For chink shit, yeah.
Good thing these tariffs are only on China then.
No it won't you fucking idiot, I won't buy shit that suddenly quadrupled in price
You're proving the point he's making.
When house prices (as one example of thousands) increase due to lumber and steel prices increasing due to tariffs that means people cut back on their spending where they can.
That's how you get a great depression. People spending money is what keeps the economy going. When lots of people cut back because they can't afford things that means the economy slows down.
This is why governments pump money into the markets in the form of economic stimulus packages to try to get the market moving and avoid this catastrophic event.
I didnt vote for that nigger jeet, but the fucking tariffs are retarded. You can't think for yourself migafag.
Fucking kek this is one of the most retarded posts I have ever seen on Anon Babble. I have just accepted my country is fucked because the people in this country are this fucking retarded.
Comparative advantage. Is it more efficient for you to sew your own clothes and grow your own food or to do something you're more productive at and trade for them?
Yeah but see if you run an economy based on economics you're a troon. You have to run it on masculine vibes and things that sound cool in 15 second clips. Also tech, an industry that hasn't had a recession since 2000 is totally who should be giving business advice. We should totally let CEOs of companies founded after 2000 that have never endured even the slightest negative economic winds run the economy. Throw in the jeets and we are all going to be billionaires soon.
Blah blah fucking blah. It's paid by the importer, not the consumer.
Hurrr, they'll pass the cost on
And they'll go out of business, to be replaced by someone who either eats the new charge or restructured to avoid it.
It's simple, ruin the US economically to stop migration and save the white race
Are your Hispanic? I swear, letting in Hispanics for 60 years has turned us into a banana republic.
Pointless once the boomers die the US is majority non-white. We already lost. This retarded shitskin economics is just a symptom of it.
NOOOOOOOO!!!! You can't just deport people!!!! The war plans got leaked, this is bigger than Watergate!!! You can't get rid of useless Feds!!!!!! Tariffs can't be used to force fair trade!!!! You have to embrace globalism and buy cheap Chinese junk!!!!
Oh man this endless screeching is fucking hilarious.
jump on bricks
Literally all of them being a export market
Somehow Canada buying stuff from them will make money
Go ahead
you retards love it
apnews.com
Dont worry! Biden is gonna save us!
tariffs will make the citizens pay more
which is why practically all of the world has tariffs on US goods
Okay, little shill. Your retarded talking points are old hat. We totally eclipse the vast majority of countries in market size, over 17 countries have already caved to our demands. Foreign nations won’t lose the chance of being in the US market, it’s literally economic suicide for them. > The world depends on you much, much less than you depend on the world.
Literally the opposite is true. Lmao
rich people are the consumers
poor people will continue to eat whatever cheap ramen slop they can find
a tax on rich people is good
imagine being a consumer
being a consumer implies you already have a job and youre doing just fine
we dont want to protect consumers
in japan im forced to buy made in japan products at the store theres no chinese stuff
and it costs like the same and its equivalent of 3 of the item because the quality is better
so you pay medium price for a better product its almost better being forced to spend 2 pennies more for the better one
i appreciate japan for forcing me to buy their stuff which might not be the bottom dollar one
You're smart so I'll explain this for you. First, yeah, America is fucked. The value of the dollar is based on petroleum. In the cold war Communist countries got their petrol from Iraq while NATO countries got theirs from Saudi Arabia. The gulf wars was how America managed to acquire Iraqi petroleum since they were occupiers there. Between 08 and 12 was when America peaked in their production and have had declining EROEI since. Neither Russia, China nor the USA will enter this upcoming century as super powers. Not only that, but it's going to look like a dark century since our diminishing EROEI will definitely ensure a lot of catastrophic circumstances as we gradually go backwards. The reason why petroleum is important is because it's the universal crude resource we use to manufacture goods and provide services. To say China, America or Russia will just be able to ignore this catastrophe because one's cities are prettier or the other's people are better mannered is so utterly irrelevant that it would be downright dangerous to operate in life under the assumption. Anyway, that's the only post I'll be contributing to the thread. God bless and I love Austrians! Have a great day friend.
- Patiently hoping that this political maneuver is the one that finally causes all the shitlibs to decide to move to another country.
You know our navy ships are built with Chinese steel, right? There are A LOT of things we buy from China most people have no clue about.
People who produce shit in tax havens overseas and import it back to consumers to maximize profit
People who mindlessly consume products that can be cheaply made overseas
Yeah I’m thinking I’ll be okay
trump needs every last penny squeezed for israel
Not my heckin Nintendo Switch 2, how dare Donald Trump make this console that’s primarily sold in the US cost $500 instead of $400
I hope these people swallow a gun barrel
''Tax them to death'', is this usual republican or pure maga/moscow'samericangovernmentagency politricks?
A 4’ tall Spanish Amerindian hobgoblin calling anyone in the USA a mutt is peak irony. Don’t you have a dog food plant to work in why are you up this late?
Taxing imports from communist countries that use slave is communism
Now I’ve heard everything. What will these hyperventilating maggots come up with next?
Let me break it down for you in simple to follow steps.
When you have a good or service that people want, you sell it, you give them the service/good, and they give you money in return.
When a nation buys more then it sells, meaning it gives away more money and gives less goods, it gets higher deficit.
So by that logic, countries with low deficit like China should be selling better goods, right?
The thing is I don't think
Let me stop you right there
tariffs are not taxes. and nothing has happened. last i checked groceries are the same price
you retards love it.
only the ptg niggers, and half of them are facebook boomers that migrated from reddit.
you get to complain once you're missing meals, not when paying slightly more for nintendos or whatever brainslop you're trying to buy
ya'll are completely detached from reality, never had a single truly harsh experience in your whole life and it shows.
USA is 4% of the global population and 25% of the global consumption
It's 25% of the global consumption because it has the biggest arsenal. Do you think America will have any sway in two decades when its military aged population is 75% brown? Of course you don't care, because you're a paid pajeet shill just like every other Trump-shill on this shithole website.
ya'll are completely detached from reality, never had a single truly harsh experience in your whole life and it shows.
And you are jealous. You went through so much boohoo shit and still aren't in a better situation than the rest of us.
The US just started a trade war and possibly started WW3.
Totally bullshit, the dollar is strong because our economy is insanely resilient
The dollar is strong because America bombs the fuck out of anyone who doesn't want to trade in it. But that's about to come to an end. America doesn't have the power to do another Iraq. They're trying to do Iran, it's going to fail bigly, and that will be the end of the dollar, forever.
People trust Trump or they wouldn't have voted for him.
Trump wants to do good by everyone but his emphasis should be for true black & blue Americans.
Those are the people that were here before 1965.
Small admixtures of Mexican and Asians were always here.
The new arrivals aren't like the old post 1965.
People unironically love Trump because he has been blessed with leadership ability.
He isn't a perfect man but I like to think he's doing the best that he can for Americans First.
Of course everyone else in the World are going to hate him for that because they want to exploit America the USA and her People and they have been.
Shut up nigger you euros started this shit 25 years ago with the euro currency, that was YOU abandoning bretton woods 2 and leading the world in dedollarization. We're simply recognizing reality finally and stopping our end of the unspoken deal - that every country in the world can dump goods here tariff free.