The age of armor is over

War was only cool for for short windows in human history. We had a pretty good run between ww2 to late cold war era. It was far gayer when it was dudes lining up to shoot at one another.

Chief would job to a drone so hard.

It doesn't matter. It's a waste of money either way.

As soon as they figure out a cheap solution to drones (Transportable Lazers), then armor will once again be king.

continuous EMP zones will bring back conventional warfare in a big way

I hope to see drones being completely autonomous with AI swarms being the norm until they become self-aware and I can close my eyes and await transcendence from this pit of tears.

not even just a signal jammer, just scrabble all waves of frequency and the problem goes away.

HOW

It's far easier to make something explode then it is to prevent it from exploding. Like 10000x easier.

The age of the guerilla has just begun. Think about what AI drones means. Robot Armies spontaneously popping up out of nowhere. Printer and some robotics & programming skills and welp you’re Napoleon out of the machine.

I mean the size of the drone was miniscule. Have explosives been revolutionary redesigned?

How are you going to prevent your own equipment from being unaffected? Your tanks will not have modern optics. Their engines will likely break. What kind of an engine uses zero electronics?
AI already takes care of the signal jammer problem. Drones can communicate with eachother in a squadron simply by audio vocalization the old fashion way.

shaped charges are impressive ngl
Without them drones couldnt do much against armor

How is a t90 just 4M. That's 10x less than a leo

5 zeros

Our Jewish bankers print zeros like it's nothing. Get fucked

99% of that explosion was ammo inside the tank detonating.

no fun in that tho broski

AI already takes care of the signal jammer problem

you need a provider of processors for shit like that, nuke the factory and that wont be a problem. shit is so easy to solve but no one has the balls the push the button.

lmao, no

Look up shaped charges. Basically is a stream of molten copper ejecting super fast into the metal armor, piercing it. What you see is ammo stored inside the tank detonating by said stream of molten copper.

You’d have to be able to enter enemy airspace in order to do that. So far NATO has found itself incapable or unwilling to enter Russian airspace with enough frequency to smack their industry. They’ve tested the water IIRC on a few occasions and for whatever reason stopped those missions.

how can such a small thing pack such a punch? insane.

a t90 is just a slighly upgraded t72

its trash.

mogged by even a humble bradley

something like pic related is what these small drones use to detonate tanks

Yup. It’s essentially an anti armor ied or rather an AT shoulder rocket that is deliverable by bird (lol basically) and dropped right where it needs to go on the vehicle, before it does its thing. Old AT rocket launchers relied on delivery by rocket to hit the armor; whereas the drone basically is a “drag and click” like with a computer mouse.

game of cat and mouse, this shit will never end because no one wants to end it. I tire of these bullshit conflicts.

see

drone wars are literally the gayest form of wars
even orangantus fighting with rocks look more fun

The crew of a tank is necessary for conducting frequent repairs on the tank. If you automate the operations of the tank, it would be slightly more expensive to make the tank, and you would still need the same crew but they'd be bored, which is incredibly dangerous.

Tanks were always vulnerable to cheap weapons, especially when isolated and immobile. If you care about attrition, you should use artillery instead.

What will infantry of the future use then? Swarms of drones surrounding lightly armored vehicles as protective shields?

Yeah bro the crew is doing active repairs in combat missions.

Because a t-90 isn't actually a new tank. Its stockpile t-72’s haphazardly rigged up with “modern upgrades” (most of which don't come anymore)

Of course, as usual. However, the combo of printing and AI changes the nature of warfare when it comes to insurgencies. A hamas fighter skillednin robotics and software programming in gaza for example could theoretically churn out a thousand drones, unleashing them out of nowhere, out of the blue. He’d be limited by the economics of his territory (total ammo import restrictions for example etc) but there’s zero intelligence that can prevent or detect something like that. Once they figure this out it’ll be a game changer.

This is kind ofnlike the killdozer except it’s terminators. Lmao.

Tanks are obsolete if there is ammunition that can pierce any thickness or advanced strength of armor. Maybe the armor technoques will be upgraded so that it’s harder to get the right ammo that can enter. I have my doubts but we’ll see.

People think that the defense is much stronger than the offense right now, due to the ukraine back and forth. In reality, that’s simply just planned to be that way. In reality, a real offense is MUCH more peoerful than the current defense. Modern ordinance bursts any fortress, pops through any armor, and is cheaper than any static defense. And attains a far greater initiative.

thanks for the explanation anons, appreciate it

In reality, that’s simply just planned to be that way.

Why?

Yet there's guys building off mm band and visual guided auto turrets with off the shelf tech.
War is fake and gay.

Tanks are the least of it, boomers still have aircraft carriers

It’s not technically molten but yes.

Reactive armour does a good job defeating it but tandem warheads exist.

Retards

I don’t understand how there are laser turrets that can shoot down mosquitoes but not a shotgun on a radar or optically controlled turret that automatically shoots down drones.

they will bring their basketball robots that can hit full court shots to knock the drones down

Power requirements for one; modern military vehicles have had issues with having sufficient power for charging all the different accessories they have nowadays bolted on to them. From computers, displays, coms, targeting, sensors/imaging systems, networking; it all adds up.

The age of armor is over.

I'll be honest. It seems highly improbable that million dollar tanks are not designed to handle the kind of warheads that a small drone could carry. It also seems odd that ground troops can't find a way to shoot down slow moving drones.

This whole war still feels like a field test for crappy weapons.

Yids want to steal money and kill yts for as long as possible

Complex electronics are not Russia's forte (anymore)

youtube.com/watch?v=yrrso5JDR5I

How inbred are you ? This is a population culling war, the coof goof didn't pick up so globokikes came up with nuwar. With no survivors.

this nigga doesnt understand how armor works

Well, the issue is that the devices are hitting parts of the tank that are the most vulnerable. See in the vids they are hitting the rear of the turret where it meets the hull. A shoulder fired AT rocket is MUCH harder to place there. Whereas the drone is like dragging and clicking to the perfect spot with your mouse. Understand now?

Neato

Drones are small objects, hard to spot before they attack, and it’s tough for a buttoned up slow moving massive vehicle to take on the drone.

Ammo in t-shitties is fed by a carousel in the hull. When one round goes off in the tank, the rest follow. Only western tanks even attempt to keep that from happening by storing less rounds in compartment designed to funnel the blast anywhere but the crew compartment.

Eventually they won't be, but I wouldn't dare guess what future armor will look like even, I doubt the tank, land vehicle with tracks configuration will eventually be a thing of the past also. If you could make them float somehow that alone would make mines useless, unless they also make mines that float on air.

Nah, tanks still play important roles. It's combined warfare, not drone warfare. Drones can't do everything. Same deal why trenches are still dug and why infantry is still necessary in the front. They're ultimately tools that serve their various purposes.

Attack helis are great when fighting savages without any air or anti-air capacity, or suppressing poorly armed civilians in urban landscapes. In actual wars vs opponents with counters not so much...

Thermobaric grenades probably.

tanks still play important roles

such as?

A remote weapon station with a small radar is all you need to stop drones like that. It'll happen soon for western armour.

I thought it was thermobaric grenades, I stand corrected, and yeah when you know the thing you're trying to destroy has that kind of glaring weak point it's easy to come up with a specialized solution. It's reminiscent of anti-tank guns, and light tank guns in WW2. German guns were initially too light to pierce most French medium armor so anti-tank gunners resorted to targeting the tracks sideways to disable them.

boomers still have aircraft carriers

I wonder how long before we see the Houthis or some other terrorist group use surface drones against those.

I don't know much about warfare, but if this is a recurring pattern then this war looks a lot like WW1 and whatever breakthroughs they come up with when the next one begins we will see much more dynamic types of warfare again, just as in WW2.

There is propellant being developed that will not ignite when being struck.
The new ammo uses electricity to ignite the propellant.

Shooting a drone is like trying to shoot a bee. Have you seen how these things look like with their dull colours and spidery architecture they become hard to see in the distance and are not very noisy like a larger suicide drone such as a Shahed which apparently sounds like a lawnmower.

Possibly also the goy collaborators in charge of military planning wanting to test what tactics work best since this is the first war where this technology took the center stage no?

MATO hasnt done any attack on russian soil or anything its been the ukrainians with all the dquipment and training and intel from these other countries doing it

What's stopping Russia from taking North Africa and drone swarming Europe?

Complete lack of ability, same as with many such "what's stopping" questions.

Not to mention safer since a drone operator, assuming it's even controlled by humans, doesn't need to be anywhere as near as an AT guy to get his target.

theyre actually fake edited videos

And how are they gonna there? You think you can just waltz through the Mediterranean like that Bruce?

Drones are the ultimate final form of helis where the technology actually has become useful

It has been over long ago.
Sandniggers were blowing up Ackbrams 2 decades ago already.

Everyhting that is now used will either convert into a sort of drone equivalent or be discarded eventually. If you think human life preservation is the best thing then that's good. I'm not entirely convinced we should totally make war painless since that creates a different type of risk, but obviously these are effective tools of war and only retards reject effective innovations.

The tank is just using hull down tactics sandniggers never blew up an American tank

Kek
I remember how mad nafo were when they found out it was ukrainians in that video.

With IEDs buried on the ground like a mine, they didn't blow up a lot though because the type of munition used here is what makes this especially effective.

kek
I think i have the video of the Ackbrams doing a backflip somewhere but can't find it.

NAFO Jewkraine same sheeit

You miss the point of war. War is the complete failure of the leaders in charge. War is to do the maximum harm on your enemy. You do that by making their other enemy DIE more than you. Sending robots into warzones doing the deeds men themselves should be doing to know the fear of dying. Dying for what? Riches? Glory? Titles? Land?

Yeah I 100% agree with you they are testing their new tech out. Unluckily for them there are others watching too from their basements, and have discovered… a (possibly momentary window of) weakness to the conventional military forces.

wait until you find out how much a bullet costs

That is pretty fucking cool and I did not know that. So a little tracked 2x2 RC flatbed could theoretically ride up underneath a tank’s hull and do the trick. With some camo and heat dispersal that would be very hard to spot with tank optics.

They're ultimately tools

And so are you.

The US lost more than 200 Ackbrams to sandngis in rags still.
Problems with them it they burndown totaly in most case, making it impossible te repair. Hence the US have less than 2000 of them (closer to 1200/1400 according to congress), because lot of have been lost.

also important to mention that russian tanks are designed to kill the entire crew when they cook off because thats the price of an autoloading system. Western tanks hold their ammo in a sealed off container to keep that from happening

armor was science fiction since the 50s but keep telling yourself the russians will figure out how to build a bridge

Can we see the aftermath? Why does it cut out? Maybe the tank is still running?

Yup. A drone can take the risks a human simply cant. And that magnifies the likelihood of a hit by several times. Gettimg to the tank from a deployment reserve is also much much easier. Theres no crawling through the woods or mud to get there, no BS hide and seek. Just birds path straight from the reserve to the armor.

Game changing.

I love how it farts out the gun barrel as one final goodbye. Hahahaha

Warfare truly is pointless now my fellow humans. If we're just all going to throw robots at each other then what's the point? We're all going to fight over resources so we can build more robots to throw at each other to find over more resources? Sounds like a waste of resources to me. I bet we'd get way further if we all cooperated and stop trying to kill each other for literally no reason. We're all basically the same entity with only very minor differences but ultimately we're all cut from the same cloth. I say we should all be frens, get drunk together, and get laid!

The age of armor is over

It's only been 70 years of people saying this shit
The reality is that drones are exploiting a relative new weakness, tanks will soon include drones countermeasure or be supported by dedicated vehicles

Why aren't they just using microwaves to fry the drones? It's cheap and doesn't destroy the drone (it can be picked up and repurposed). They could put an even more powerful microwave on a tank.

Well, a fully equipped apache is what, millions? How much for a squadron of 12 drones with c4? 10k? The heli doesnt stand a chance. Rotary Drones are quicker, more agile, can fly at probably the same speeds, and are much toughter to hit. A squadron will overwhelm any heli.

Uh… anon

Drones used hardened commercial equipment and the chassis has enough metal to act like a faraday cage. The best non-destructive weapon has been jammers which triggers the drone to either fall from the sky or return home.

Convention destructive weaponry, such as projectiles and nets, are still the best response, which isn't saying very much.

Once AIs can reliable take control of drones in combat settings then things are going to start getting wild because there will be no down time and no operator or telecommunication tech limitations.

The time will soon come where we will have AI powered military vehicles, drones, dogs, and androids.

Well actually, zero crew really changes what a tank should look like at all. A crewless tank could be much, much smaller and have the same types of armor. Could be modified to be more effective to, due to the new shape possibilities. Cane frectivrly be an engine, a canon, MGs and a computer + optics, plus armor to protect all that.

I could see tankettes potentially returning to the game in some sense.

A stick Grug picked off the ground defeats Urgh from neighbouring tribe yet every military still has infantry.

The time will soon come where we will have AI powered military vehicles, drones, dogs, and androids.

God help us when that happens.

jammers which triggers the drone to either fall from the sky or return home.

Once tactical AI matures (it’s 2 weeks away from doing so), that won’t be an issue anymore. Drones can function as airborne infantry where they communicate with the others vocally and audibly, rather than by signal. High speed Runner drones can update command and update the squadron.

The US lost more than 200 Ackbrams

source

Op's ass

meanwhile le ebic blast doors didnt help shit when we ran away from afghan.

they're not designed to kill the crew lmao
they were designed to be compact and small
to be harder to hit - something that doesn't hold today

nooo

not my ackbramcerino

kek
Cope seethe and dilate.
It's probably even more if we count iraqi akcbrams.

It's probably even more if we count iraqi akcbrams.

source

Op's ass

Why is it burning like that at the end? Is it thermite?

I was in Iraq when everyone was installing these bird cage things on their vehicles. They actually work fairly well and they make everything look like Mad Max.

Explosions are weird. Its basically just expanding gas and gas expands in the easiest direction. Gas doesn't want to go through steel. That's why modern anti-tank rounds penetrate before they explode. If you give the gas even a slight gap, it will take it instead of going through steel. I've seen rockets hit a bird cage and make a giant explosion that looks like the vehicle is totaled, but then there's barely a scratch on there.

The biggest threat is probably the decompression killing the crew inside.

Sympathetic detonation of the tank ordinance

he's seethe so fucking much

kek

I can't wait for Anduril to IPO

Making an engine without electronics is almost entirely easier, just less reliable

Abrams, Leopards, Challengers, and T-series tanks have been burning for the past 3 years. Where the fuck have you been nigger

says the white flag warrior

Going to need to start arming infantry with shotguns. Titor was right

You never won a war and even lost your own civil war kek.

Nigga heard of fiber optic cable?

Your anger is very amusing.

This is China's fault for inventing fireworks.

Even with shotguns drones are still extremely hard to shoot down, they're just so small, fast and nimble and they're usually chasing down vehicles that are driving as fast as possible over rough terrain. Not easy keeping your sights trained on a bird-sized target zipping around everywhere when you're bouncing around on the back of a troop transport

3mil tank without a drone laser or automatic drone turret? baka.

n- no u

Kek
Sure, it's totaly me whos mad right now.

There's also the human lives in the tank compared to none in the drone, but that's irrelevant to mongoloid white chinks.

if you're a male human you basically have zero value outside of wars and wageslavery and nobody gives a shit if you boil alive in a can unless thousands of people suffered the same fate and it becomes a trend, then the elite will be affected because they're losing the war (not because they give a shit about some random kid)

meh, you drone can't get down into my basement, still comfy

no u

So what? We will still kill all the Jews who did not have time to escape from Ukraine and liberate Russian lands.

Losses don't matter, only the will of the people matters. And the people want to destroy the remnants of the komijews of their invented countries.

I wonder how long it will be before they just start using EMP blasts to shut down all electronics in an area and go back to foot battles

can't understand how "no u" works

I've figured out before you even tried it.

Drones are already capable of using AI to independently identify and attack targets. In addition, no amount of jamming can jam a fiber optic drone.

crew is able to escape and acquire another vehicle with less mistakes to be made

iraqis in t72s were burnt to a crisp in the middle of the desert

u

le war le never le changes

Was it destroyed or just a pretty explosion and no damage?

The point of war is to flex how much money your country has by wasting a billion dollars for every $10k your opponent spends countering you. Eventually one side will run out of money and be declared the loser.

Are you stupid russian government se helicopters offensively

Tank crews have a casualty rate of something like 18% only regardless of soviet or western models.
Also

4 men crew

only one left

Crsipy zogbots desu.
he mad