Are leftists pro capitalism and billionaires?

the jewish system aka israel

this is true

What is the basis of the state?
Liberals said that the ethnos is not a valid basis of the state, so I guess they moved on to saying the market is the basis of the state, which is where you get neoliberalism where the state's purpose is to intervene on behalf of private interests. Nothing they believe makes any sense really so there isn't much point in trying to understand them, liberalism is currently collapsing under the weight of its own contradictions which is why the left is a nuthouse.

the left wing is one person

honest

leftist

lmao

where are the EXAMPLES

Case in point, lmao

So the left is not one person but Trump is singlehandedly doing all this stuff? This is the type of logic that makes it so hard to understand the left.

The left is a venn diagram of NEETs, losers, bums, fags, trannies, criminals, arsonists, commies, and pedophiles

I forgot to include cucks, simps, and whores.

Don't misunderstand the right has all that too, but they're aren't an official part of their ideology.

The problem with the right is that they have no ideology other than temporarily opposing leftist novelty.

those kinds of things have barely any brain activity really going on but sure act arrogant and proud as hell and can't even smell or care about how tremendously rancid they stink.
they make a real wave on facebok though

They are pro-being empowered victims

The current basis of the liberal state seems to be reddit, CNN, and MSNBC.
I understand leftists because I used to be one.

Just let emotional low information assessments run your day all day every day.
Drink Jim Jones' original formula diversity koolaid because it's your strength and so the fascists don't get you. (Fascism possibly getting them was actually the main impetus for all those people poisoning themselves and their children at Jonestown)

Incorrect. The right has easily defined cultural and economic stances. A lot of their basis for ideology comes from the Bible, more specifically ten commandments and the golden rule.
I won't get into theology much because I'm an atheist, but generally their worldview is more practically superior that the dissonant chaos you get into on the left. Better work ethics etc.

the novelty of the left

Ah novelty like eugenics, and mutilating children and calling that healthcare I suppose. It's really too bad they opted to go with something status quo like shifting to a tariff based economy.

Reddit, CNN, and MSNBC are just consensus shaping mechanisms.
By basis of state I mean what is the organizing principle of the state? What purpose does it serve?
Anyways, it's interesting that the woke liberal types seem to think that the answer to that question ideologically is the state exists to protect outgroups and minority interests, and they seem to have arrived at this conclusion out of purely reactionary spite against ethnonationalists.

left vs right

It's a divide and conquer tactic. We agree on important things, yet allow ourselves to be manipulated by divisive words.
Why not unite on the important things, and disagree on the trivial matters?

the lefts are no real lefts.
its brainwashed people thinking being left means
to support cutting your dick and the right of being called a woman.
its the neo left.

Leftists run their own businesses worse than any corporation, and jack up prices more than Jews would and then screech at people for buying shit at Walmart instead. Go work for a leftist at a small business, these hypocrites are the biggest capitalists.

I think you hit the nail on the head. Acting out of spite makes sense. Spite will make you act irrationally.

Because people have their own opinions on how to prioritize what is important and what isn't. I expect you'll be dictating to us that class identity is the only identity that matters shortly

I met a leftist small business owner and he did not stop talking about his money. I was surprised but if I hadnt met him I would find it hard to believe you.

why are you still sucking his dick? trump is a commie now based on your own logic.

Are leftists actually pro mega corps and billionaires?

Or they're on the payroll of those who are but DOGE is thankfully forcing them to use their own money for a change

It is irrational and self-contradictory but so is democratic liberalism in itself.
The entire idea of democracy is that the state exists to express the collective will of the people.
But at the same time, the entire idea of liberalism is negotiation between heterogeneous elements of society, which inevitably turns into the minority veto, which inevitably turns into various minority groups competing with each other for resource allocation.
So under that circumstance how can there even be a coherent collective will of the people in the first place? It makes no sense. Yet they are so convinced of this arrangement that they actually dubbed it "the end of history." It's completely crazy and self-defeating, they're actually vociferously supporting their own disenfranchisement while claiming to oppose the capital and oligarchy.

Maybe you would stop being a cuck for leftists, pretending they are good people. What's your problem?

Thanks. I think you have helped me to understand the contradiction.

The Federal Reserve Uniparty appeals to both rich and poor.

There are virtually no left-wingers left. Those who call themselves that today are not. The left has been hijacked in almost all countries by identity politicians who are more interested in gays and foreigners than in the working class. In the past, the left would never have discussed the question of whether there is a gender pay gap among managers of multinational companies.

Class is just another tool used to divide people. All of these things are, you're this, I'm that. Get people arguing over semantics.

Does anyone have a picture of this skanky bitch today? I would be interested to see how time has treated her.

There are virtually no left-wingers left. Those who call themselves that today are not.

This.

Political terminology especially in US english political discourse is complete nonsense. Was it always this way?

this

What we have now is classism being disguised as racism and sexism. It is identical to 1913 Russia, but instead of using poverty, the socialists' subversion is in the form of leveraging racial and gender inequities, instead of class/wealth. The socialists cannot use class/wealth now to subvert, b/c the socialists ARE the meritless, debt-based, central bank-funded, GLOBAL elitists.
It is the only way they have left to sow discontent and wrestle more power away from unified populations.

leftist views are "vogue", like 70s flares were "vogue" again 20 years ago.
Fact is, the middle classes - the true middle classes - will always be camouflaging their inadequacies with filler: they are neither great nor poor, they are "in the middle" and so have to make up for their second rate powers by compensating with cunning, i.e. following the latest trends and making people accept so-called "trends".

Note anywhere there is a red circle (mini Fed branches) or black square (12 Regional Fed franchises) there is a blue vote

The nation state was the thesis and the market state the antithesis. Public-private partnerships and WEF stakeholderism were supposed to be the synthesis, before being interrupted. If it has been interrupted. There's still no guarantee that Trumpism will be the revolution than Thatcher-Reaganism was.

Right Wing = Libertarianism

I hate this meme so much

Fact is, the middle classes - the true middle classes - will always be camouflaging their inadequacies with filler: they are neither great nor poor

kek are you saying the poor or rich are great?
this country is being destroyed by the rich and poor, the middle class is the only thing holding it together

no guarantee that Trumpism will be the revolution than Thatcher-Reaganism was.

lol
you have to be fucking kidding me

i'm about to blow this thread out of the water with some fucking reality FROM BOTH SIDES

There is continuity between the left you are talking about and the left today. The idea was that they would use all these subversive groups to demolish existing power structures and then usher in muh glorious class consciousness worker uprising. Of course it didn't work out that way but that's because leftist are fucking retarded and destroying things in order to remake them rarely turns out the way you expect it to.
Ok but divisions between people do in fact exist.

Are leftists pro capitalism and billionaires?

They would be pro cancer if he cured it

Ahhh mah gawd do you realize how much chemo equipment and jobs rely on radiation therapy???

They are just hypocrites

I'm shuddering at the thought of that. But that honestly seems to be what they are like.

Liberals are some of the biggest consumers, just like women. Hell, look at how liberals mostly comprise of women and feminine men. Lefty talking points are SOLD to them like a hip subculture. In fact, that’s all liberalism is, a subculture to feel part of a group, to socialize, and to bullshit into each other’s pants like a predator. Rarely do these people plant trees, treat the sick, or feed the hungry.

A woman is a liberal because she’s a narcissist and wants easy attention.

A man is a liberal because he wants to weasel his way into the alt artsy girl’s pants.

They’ll say they’re against corporations, but would happily supply corporate farms with illegal aliens.

and what is this supposed to show?
the fact that such huge deficits can exist without troubling the system just proves how resilient it is, and how hard it will be to overturn

that the fucking system hasn't changed at all only gotten worse, no matter who was in charge
that's what it shows

Trump, Musk, Visa, and the NYFed's largest primary dealers are working toward a tokenized-asset platform out of the new Texas stock exchange. Trump and Musk have been quietly working with some of the NYFed’s primary dealers and other fintech players to cement a new global, digital platform with DIGITAL WALLETS (which inherently require a DIGITAL ID) after the big banks and the SEC, etc just spent four years calling crypto a scam and killing off any undesired blockchain competition.

archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/499902179
^^^^ITT^^^, I outline how this asset-tokenization scheme is designed and its intended consolidation of Federal Reserve Uniparty power behind the scenes out of public view, as Musk and Trump claim the elimination of corruption and fraud, while eliminating any blockchain competition and simultaneously trying to establish a new need for their digital wallets and digital IDs.

As Trump and Musk superficially criticize the poor accounting, waste and fraud in the US government, they conveniently omit that JPM is the account validator for these fraudulent US government contracts/accounts and they ALSO never admit that the BANKRUPT, private 12 Federal Reserve franchises are the US government’s fiscal agents, cutting the 'untraceable' fraudulent checks.

Instead of identifying and rooting out the real financial entities facilitating this waste and fraud, Musk and Trump actively blame the ballooning debt and deficit spending on everything BUT Fed ‘accommodation’ and QE, while they simultaneously aid the 2008 banking failures in their current looting of our US Treasury via IORB and RRP, their further acquisition of tangible assets and their destruction of the value of our labor and national currency.

pic rel
Musk and his MOTHER privately met with Dimon and 200 of JPM's largest investors in Miami on Thurs Feb 6th, days before he began his 'audits' of the US Treasury and USAID revelations.

here is JPM laughing at the left after it just donated ~$30 B

lol
how much longer is the public going to remain stupid? (both sides)

Very true, yes divisions do exist, and they often get highlighted, to reaffirm those divisions. The systems of control (capitalism, communism et al), are just systems of control. Whatever system is in place, greedy people (for money and power) will try to take advantage.
I'm not intelligent, I don't have answers, I just see that things are wrong, and people on both sides see this, and see the people/groups doing this. Our want for things to change for the better, should unite us. Obviously then disagreements will arise again, but maybe that unity we once had, may make us act differently towards one another.

So are you saying that there is a false protest against the moves being made by Trump's policies?

These career type people have weaker spines than Mr. Glass. It's like those inflatable tube dancers outside car dealerships just standing in the wind waiting to get blown one direction or the other. There's something genuinely eerie about a man who believes in nothing. Truly anti-human.

kek are you saying the poor or rich are great?

I am.

"Middle class, middle man, incapable of great virtue or great vice: and there would be nothing wrong with that, if only he would be willing to remain as such; but, when his child-like or feminine tendency to camouflage pushes him to dream of grandeur, honours, and thus riches, which he cannot achieve honestly with his own "second-rate" powers, then the average man compensates with cunning, schemes, and mischief; he kicks out ethics, and becomes a bourgeois. The bourgeois is the average man who does not accept to remain such, and who, lacking the strength sufficient for the conquest of essential values—those of the spirit—opts for material ones, for appearances."

So are you saying that there is a false protest

lol
what
how did you get there?
i said that BOTH SIDES are being played by the banks, in particular, the NYFed
i will admit that the left is way more lazy and stupid than the right

no

Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

perhaps you are so blinded b/c you are from the UK and need to justify royalty (as if those people are doing anything of any importance)

No, they're just brainwashed marxists and they're so ignorant and lack so much self awareness they don't even know it...

No, but they understand that capitalism collapsing around them in the dumbest way possible, with no replacement system ready to arise, will hurt them much more than the billionaires.
Leftists have jobs and mortgages and kids to feed, and understand that they live under capitalism, even if they don’t like it.

We want people who benefit from the economy to contribute to society.
Contrary to what rightoids want you to believe we don't want everyone to be poor.

And tariffs, like VAT, are a tax that hurt the poor the most.
Capital gains tax hurt investors while leaving poor people alone.

with no replacement system ready to arise,

there is a system, it is called US Notes issued by our own treasury, since 1862

Because prices will go up due to tariffs

Im trying to use logic to work out deliberately illogical people

Meanwhile these people move onto the next mind game to confuse you with. YES THEY ARE DISINGENIOUS DO SOMETHING TO STOP THEM!

Today politics has lowered its bar so fucking low it's about my team vs their team. There is no fucking ideology at all just grift and shit throwing.

I'm not against diversity.
But I don't understand how DEI costs more than $0 and zero cents?

A reminder, Federal Reserve Notes are what are being issued to worthless oblivion and

the US dollar is a fucking UNIT

We need to AGAIN issue debt-free, Treasury-issued US Notes like we did before (and during) the bloodsucking, obsolete Federal Reserve. We need to AGAIN issue debt-free US Notes that are pegged to a basket of commonly-used weighted commodities, distributed by a series of state banks.

We can:
1 nationalize Fed banks
OR
2 dissolve Fed and have a series of state banks
OR
3 issue US Notes simultaneously AGAIN and eventually recycle worthless Federal Reserve Notes out of circulation
OR
4 YOU CAN RIGHT NOW: use cash/barter/stack/use credit unions/use cold wallets, these five things IMMEDIATELY transfer power directly to the people

USE CASH, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY YOU ARE IN, cash IMMEDIATELY puts the power in the hands of the people.

Real paper cash:

is permissionless

is private

is anonymous

has no transaction fees

works in power outages

doesn’t need the internet

don't need to be a coder to use it

doesn't depend on another party having a device

everyone knows exactly how much they have

has no transaction limits or thresholds for reporting

money laundering is harder with physical cash, due to transport

is inclusive, it does not see race

is harder to use in ransoms

can’t be hacked

don’t need to remember a password to use it

IS the ultimate in payment platforms

using cash helps people to save money and budget

puts the power directly in the hands of the people

keeps the currency near the REAL goods and services

less paperwork

is face to face, not face to screen

makes government theft harder

Boycott businesses that do not take cash.
NEVER USE YOUR PHONE TO PAY.
Barter is the real torpedo to these fucking clowns.

But I don't understand how DEI costs more than $0 and zero cents?

who said that?

Ok. But isnt a large part of leftist theory about getting the worker to own the means of production? So if the means of production has all been offshored then surely the left has failed to achieve one of their major aims. And wouldnt tariffs at least be a measure that may help to bring the means of production back to the US where the left could work on getting it into the hands of the workers?

Lefties are just tribalism¦ they don't actually believe anything.

JP Morgan said it costs them $30B

estimating

Money

money

Middle class, middle man who lacks spirit.

isnt a large part of leftist theory about getting the worker to own the means of production?

That's specific to communism.
Not everyone on the left shares that desire.

if the means of production has all been offshored then surely the left has failed to achieve one of their major aims.

"Production" doesn't mean "manufacturing".
According to communism the people working at Apple would be entitled to Apple shares, they don't have to own Foxconn or TSMC shares in fact the workers of Foxconn and TSMC should own their respective companies.

no JPM pledged $$30B to leftists
then probably reneged lol

LMAO. People who just want to live peacefully while contributing to their community are the solution not the problem, dipshit. We don't need a million John McAfees.
Nigger crackheads and messianic business types both fucking suck. Move to San Francisco and see for yourself.

But it would be impossible to argue against the fact that the offshoring of manufacturing has led to a heavy reliance on service work, which is definitely not production. So without manufacturing the typical service worker has no chance of owning any form of production. Especially when the wages of service jobs are driven down by so much supply of labour.

nothing exists because everything is subjective, therefore I win

Hegel would be proud

The problem is that if you do protectionism from within an otherwise capitalist country, you just end up fucking over the ordinary working people. Protectionism wouldn't be a problem for American citizens if combined with price controls. This would put the cost of protectionism at the feet of the companies that are being protected from foreign competition. But the Jews don't like that, so John and Jane Doe have to foot the bill for their inept corporate masters instead.

What I find ironic is that Kamala ran on a platform of price fixing without protectionism, while Trump ran on a platform of protectionism without price fixing. The only way it works is with both, but you're not allowed to have that, so you get two different kinds of controlled opposition to choose between instead, both of which have only one half of the solution.

What's also interesting is that Trump's buddy Orban has instituted price fixing measures in Hungary, despite the fact that Trump was quick to label Kamala a "communist" for wanting to do the same thing. Orban can do protectionism correctly because he actually runs his own country. Trump is incapabable of it because Mossad have video footage of him raping little girls so they're the ones with their hands on the wheel, and guess what: they're not actually interested in protecting the interests of American citizens.

same

service work, which is definitely not production.

Isn't it?
For example when I hired a guy to build me a website he didn't own his means of production?

In any case these statements are more than a century old and don't really apply to modern society I think.
And even if they still do communism is pretty much dead even in "communist" China.
The vast majority of people on the left are social democrats not communists.

How is that 30 billion spent anyway? "Pledge". Almost sounds sacred huh?

glib, subjective retort

it is so difficult to discern between bots and actual stupidity

pic related all fucking theater

years-long lawsuits just dropped

tying up the courts

wasting taxpayer dollars

none of these people are out for the citizens, either fucking side

make it make sense

leftists are fucking brain rotted retards that should be sent to labor camps, that simple

pic related all fucking theater

>years-long lawsuits just dropped

>tying up the courts

>wasting taxpayer dollars

none of these people are out for the citizens, either fucking side

Well what is the modern left economic position then? Is it just to increase real wages? If it is then I can understand their dislike for tariffs as that will lower real wages. But I dont see it ncessarily being a permanent decrease. If the tariffs do actually spur a local manufacturing rennaisance then there will be a significant increase in labour demand long term.

>>years-long lawsuits just dropped

>>tying up the courts

>>wasting taxpayer dollars

Be a social democrat

laugh my ass off while reading this thread

the cult will move earth and sky to worship Trump but still have no fucking concept of leftism as a grouping of distinct political movements

How many of you were dropped on your heads as children?

We all know you're a grab-bag of fucking misfits, retard. We're trying to figure out how the DNC will try to attract you to their circus tent. It was big business bad for a while, but the DNC wants to suck corporate cock just as bad as the GOP so that's been sidelined. Then it was "white man" bad, but that has backfired too. It's your fucking problem, dummy. It's why you keep losing.

>>>years-long lawsuits just dropped

>>>tying up the courts

>>>wasting taxpayer dollars

X sued Trump
wtf who the fuck do these people think they are
running the fucking country into the fucking ground

Well what is the modern left economic position then?

To make the economy as strong as possible while letting everyone enjoy it not just the lucky few.

lol

if you oppose tariffs you're pro billionaire

jesus christ you MAGA trash really are leaning into that cope aren't you?

looks to me like the NYFed just keeps flushing any opposition from either side with money

some pasta:
‘Investing’ is just people further bankrupting the US by putting the NYFed’s private Federal Reserve Notes back into their debt-based system via the treasury market.

the legislative volley between boomers and billionaires that leaves everyone out:
billionaires say we need more taxes from social security/medicare payments
boomers say big bank fleecing of the country is fine as long as they're getting social security
and they both continue to make laws to protect their positions, so now, effectively all wealth is going to the old and dying

i took a screenshot of this and it was sent out BY A ELDERLY MEDICAL DOCTOR to a community network

this was likely made by AI
this is how stupid everyone is becoming

They just hate White people, and if billionaires do too then leftists love them

they hate the pre-frontal cortex and anything that may contain it, becaue the useage of it makes them obsolete. because they would have to work on themselves or develop in some sort of a useful way. and that would leave them behind. So the termites form a collective to destroy a stable structure.

the recession has been coming long before trump

the recession has been coming long before trump

>the recession has been coming long before trump

trump is flipping all of the tables, not just some

Money is often falsely equated with productivity, intelligence, class, success, integrity, and/or good taste.
If you equate success with money, you will likely be perpetually dissatisfied, in a constant state of longing.

But if you VALUE THINGS WHICH CANNOT BE BOUGHT, such as:
community
family
work ethic
intellect
fitness
perseverance
cleanliness
honesty
integrity
compassion
tradition
loyalty
reliability
patience
humor
If you value the above, you will always be content and successful, no matter where you are or what you do.
Judge yourself by deed, not possession.

Money does not make food.
Labor, Seeds, Land, Air, Sun, and Water make food— we have ALL of these things WITHOUT fucking money. If you remove JUST ONE of these items, YOU WILL NOT HAVE FUCKING FOOD.
MONEY DOES NOTHING BUT ACT AS A QUANTIFIER FOR FUCKING TRADE.
We cannot have unearned income AT THE EXPENSE OF earned income. Finance must be the servant of production, not its master.

Money today is created in the form of debt, which is then used itself as leverage to force countries into the global, debt-based, central banking scheme we have today in the NYFed/BIS/IMF cartel.

tick tock

TRUMP!!!!!!!

>>the recession has been coming long before trump

yes, that's $10 TRILLION lol

They get mad at what their pundits tell them too. Same for your average normal right leaning type. They are stupid sheep writ large that get mad about what they are told to...they can turn a 180 on command. It's wild to watch honestly

>>>the recession has been coming long before trump

The fed is trying to rebrand itself now

This guy gets it.

The NY Fed's Quantitative Easing (QE) counterfeiting scheme:
NYFed buys treasuries (and MBSs) outright from (only) NYFed primary dealers by creating reserves out of thin air, which seditiously undermines Congress’ sole power to regulate our currency. This is QE.
NY Fed’s primary dealers then take those reserves and earn Interest on Excess Reserves aka IOER (now called IORB) on them at the NYFed, interest which IS PAID IN CASH to the primary dealers--cash, which they DO MAKE INTEREST ON, this is their counterfeiting scheme (also, every penny paid in interest (cash) to the primary dealers for excess reserves also reduces the Fed’s remittance to the US Treasury).
The NYFed used QE to bail themselves out during the financial collapse of 2008 and is how its primary dealers have been effectively counterfeiting our currency ever since.

And in addition to the scheme above, the NYFed and its owners, the primary dealers, then use these US treasuries and MBS, bought with QE, like chips in a big casino with repos, reverse repos, margin loans, and foreign swap transactions to further rob the American public.....

<<<----And in addition to the scheme above, the NYFed and its owners, the primary dealers, then use these US treasuries and MBS, bought with QE, like chips in a big casino with repos, reverse repos, margin loans, and foreign swap transactions to further rob the American public.....
lol

Oh, won't someone think of the casino?!

The debt-based Federal Reserve (the Fed) and the IRS were both created in 1913.
The new IRS conveniently forced everyone to use their new Federal Reserve Notes to pay their new US Federal Income Tax.
The Fed was supposed to stabilize the US currency by backing every Federal Reserve Note (FRN) issued (TO BUY US TREASURIES) with 40% gold (40 cents of gold for each $1 FRN issued).
In 1933, everyone’s gold was confiscated by the Treasury (except $100 worth/person) b/c the Fed convinced US Pres FDR that Americans were hoarding gold and they were forced to trade their gold in for $20.67/troy oz. Federal Reserve Notes were also now no longer exchangeable for gold.
In 1934 the Gold Reserve Act allowed FDR to establish the gold value of the dollar solely by proclamation and raised the exchange rate to $35/troy oz, extracting wealth and value once again from the American public.
In 1944, IMF and the International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (IBRD) were formed at the Bretton Woods Conference.
In 1958, Bretton Woods pegs all foreign currencies to the dollar, and the dollar pegged to gold at $35/troy oz. Debt-based Central Banks under the BIS pop up all over the world to facilitate the Fed and the BoE in their check kiting, fractional reserve, debt-based central-banking ponzi.
In 1971, Nixon depegs the dollar to gold entirely, making the US currency free-floating fiat, which completely negated the original Federal Reserve Act of 1913, which was to back each Federal Reserve Note issued with gold.
In 1974, Pres Ford legalizes gold ownership again without limitation.
The NOW BANKRUPT Federal Reserve and its biggest shareholders, the NYFed’s primary dealers, for the next 50 years and up to today, continue to issue our currency out of thin air, while charging us interest to do so. Rewarding insolvent, failing banks and investment firms using QE and taxpayer money over and over and over again, acquiring assets during crises, while rigging global markets.

No
You're baiting or being reductive
When corporations stock prices take a hit their first course of action is to fire employees to bump their price back up
A declining stock market can mean Americans being fired for no reason before the quarter is over
Yes stock prices are inherently meaningless to anybody but corporations, but corporations have power over the careers of our citizens and since we have 0 labor protections they would cull us all to save a few bucks

kek

any system will be fairer than the one we have now

lol

>>>>the recession has been coming long before trump

Leftists are pro attention and extra pro crying like gay crack babies.

>>>>>the recession has been coming long before trump

this is now $4Trillion, it has been underreported by the NYFed now for years
the BIS let the cat out of the bag

this is now $4Trillion, it has been underreported by the NYFed now for years

the BIS let the cat out of the bag

pic definitely related

We live in communism for the rest of human history. Work schedules are command economy communism. Most people need that, welcome to communism!

Because they can be, we're all given freedom to say whatever stupid shit we want in America, and we take full advantage of it

Is this why so many people here are so mad on both sides? No free xanax, sex change operations or tendies? Sad.

>>>>>>the recession has been coming long before trump

I think the funniest thing is this idea that everyone is precious and valid, but then they don't act like it in reality unless it's purely theoretical. They cant even entertain the idea that a black man is a savage ever, in any circumstance, but a white man who is angry at anything at all is evil and needs to be destroyed or converted.

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 1 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/489468608
This thread summarizes the first of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

In this first paper, Kupiec and Pollock show that the Federal Reserve franchises are insolvent if GAAP accounting is used, which the Fed does not use. The Fed is now balancing their books with an imaginary, 'magic' accounting column called 'Deferred Assets' to perpetuate their bankrupting of the US Treasury and the American taxpayer and to hide their losses and now uncollateralized Federal Reserve Notes. These are operating losses, which don't even include the capital losses from marking-to market their now-worthless securities either, further skewing the real price of credit and hampering the Fed's ability to respond to shocks to the economy, as their balance sheet is full and there is no room to move.

The Fed franchises have only become more insolvent since the paper was released, their losses doubling since Jan 2024 to the tune of ~$214 Billion as of this week.
This thread summarizes how the Fed is insolvent, operating illegally, opening itself up for lawsuits and destroying the American economy when it could just roll off its balance sheet and take cash losses like that. Instead, the Fed franchises choose to take cash losses by still paying their owners dividends and paying out interest to NYFed primary dealers via IORB and to MMFs in Reverse Repo transactions.

’Federal Reserve Losses and Monetary Policy’ Jan 2024
Paul H. Kupiec, Senior Fellow, American Enterprise Institute
Alex J. Pollock, Senior Fellow, Mises Institute
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4712022

I sum it up as "Everything must be tolerated except a frustrated white man."

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 2 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/491506260/
This thread summarizes the second of a series of four recent separate economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises (aka ‘Fed bank/s’ ITT). This paper uses Ordinary Least Squares (OLS) linear regression analysis to examine how shocks from three variables: federal debt, the Federal Reserve assets and/or real GDP affect CPI (chosen to represent prices and inflation).

Mr. Webster’s paper describes how quickly prices respond to shocks in the above three variables and how quickly a new (often higher) price equilibrium is found and how the rest of the system converges to support this new price equilibrium. This paper seeks to measure how quickly the now-insolvent Fed banks enable or ‘accommodate’ the deficit-ridden US government by purchasing securities and how this accommodation then contributes to inflation and price hikes, as measured by CPI.

The Fed banks’ ‘accommodative’ QE purchases of excess US Marketable Debt make room for even more new debt to be issued and *hopefully* sold. This is called Fed ‘accommodation’ and is now becoming a ‘debt death spiral’, which is when a nation (or corporation) has to issue new debt to raise the funds to pay the interest on its old debt. Unfortunately, this new constant debt issuance floods the economy with new currency, mostly enriching the proximal investment class and exacerbating inflation for the rest of us. These QE policies have also led to the insolvency of the Federal Reserve today, massive capital losses and full balance sheets with no room for the Fed to move, further handicapping the debt-based central bank.

The Myth of Fed Political Independence
Thomas J. Webster, Professor Emeritus, Lubin School of Business, Pace University, New York, NY.
papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=4916388

Federal Reserve Thread Series Part 3 of 4
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/494723606/
This thread summarizes the third in a series of four recent economics papers examining the current insolvency of the 12 regional Federal Reserve franchises.

The third paper explores options for reformation or replacement (abolition!) of the insolvent Fed. The paper begins with a historical analysis that chronicles the Fed’s many past policy failures & their respective crises & how the Fed’s response to said crises further enabled Fed accommodation of $trillions in deficit spending by Congress. The Fed’s four ‘prescriptive’ rounds of QE purchases of US treasuries & MBSs have now resulted in hundreds of billions of embarrassing Fed capital losses & ZERO remittance to the US Treasury since October 2022. But, somehow the Fed is still able to pay out dividends to its shareholders and able to pay out interest on Reserve Balances (IORB) to banks & interest on reverse repo transactions to money market funds (MMFs).

This paper has broad rule recommendations that aim to rein in the Fed & reduce both manipulation & subsidies by Fed market interference. However, these rule recommendations do not address the inflation and recessions already caused by the Fed’s monetary policies. These monetary policy shortcomings could be directly addressed by 1) the abolition of the Fed(!), 2) free banking & 3) commodity-backed money. This paper loosely represents a coalition of conservative groups & their suggestions on how to fix the insolvent Federal Reserve. It examines the current system of borrowing the Fed's private currency, the Federal Reserve Note, & how we can return the role of currency issuance back to the US Treasury, & thus back to the people.

Project 2025 Mandate for Leadership: The Conservative Promise (April 2023)
Chapter 24: ‘Federal Reserve’
Paul Winfree (& additional contributors)
static.project2025.org/2025_MandateForLeaders

Ok real bureocratic talk

They have to compete with crazy billionaires making flying cars

The third paper was weak, but the first of its kind to suggest the abolition of the Fed. One of the paper’s shortcomings detailed in an excerpt from the Part 3 of 4 thread:

*************** I pause the thread here to point out another egregious error right in the middle of the economic paper being examined. As I have noted before in past threads, such high school-tier errors are so bad that it looks as though these economics papers are not even proofread at all.
Picrel is the error and the following text is what I think the author was trying to convey:

If government issues too much paper currency, then citizens will doubt the gold peg and turn in their paper for gold from their banks, and these Tier 2 banks, in turn, will then redeem that same paper from the US Treasury and drain the government’s gold

Please feel free to correct me if I am missing something.

To make such an egregious error in the most important sentence in the entire paper begs the question, was it on purpose, mocking the public or are they trying to trick the public into turning in their gold again lololol?
The error in pic related is an example that NO ONE is watching or correcting these people. This author worked for Trump as an economic advisor in his first term. These are the people running the show. This is who we have to rely on to fix things and that is not good. This is why we must be vigilant even more so now, not to just let them install whatever fuck they think b/c THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE THAT GOT US HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.

<<<----this is the paper for part 4 of 4 and will be in the beginning of April on a weekend (running late on this)
this is a hedge fund crying b/c it can no longer front run the public b/c the US Treasury is itself now conducting treasury buybacks (like the Fed's QE), and this is causing their 10yr yield to suffer

these people are not coming out b/c they want a fairer money system
they are now bitching b/c they are no longer able to fleece it
even in their joke-of-a-discipline economics papers they never give up the real info, like the private US Treasury Cash Management Bill auctions they have been having
they never directly outline the con, they just pussyfoot around it, while crying that they will rise up if the Fed doesn't do what they want (which in this case is for the NYFed and Treasury to stop interfering in the treasury market b/c they're no longer profiting from frontrunning QE/QT)

turns out Trump hired this author, Miran

<<<---this is a new paper by the same guy, Miran
Trump and Miran are looking to term out large tranches of short term debt into long term debt at lower rates
trump is just trying to be able to pay the interest without complaint, he is NOT trying to change the system. If he was, the US Treaasury would be issuing US Notes for any deficit spending only to be used in the US, which is legal right fucking now

sorry, here is a better image

I’m struggling with this as well. I think it’s less to do with supporting Wall Street and wanting it to do well, and more to do with just having the opportunity to troll MIGA fags. Years of “he’s bad for the economy, and here’s why” getting ignored by MIGA trolls and then having said things come to fruition is just a sort of catharsis at the moment. That being said, I am loving Trump for being an inept retard that is accidentally fucking the stock market. I’d be even happier if it was a leftist that was systematically dismantling it, but getting to have Wall Street brought to its knees while simultaneously getting to laugh at MIGA chuds is a win-win in its own way. I suspect my feelings are in line with many Instagram leftists, even if they don’t realize it yet.

in this paper they speak of the disadvantages for the US of being the world reserve currency and that is was only useful until most other nations became middle class and now it is no longer needed for global trade, iirc

The Fed has coerced the US into a central bank-run state capitalist system. What you are witnessing is the corporate takeover of the USA by our own financial sector and its majority-owned stock in mega corporations. This is evidenced in not only recent corporate media surveillance and censorship, but also in the ongoing wealth transfer scheme of orchestrated booms and busts by the Fed and its primary dealers (laundering their worthless Federal Reserve Notes into real assets held by their private incorporation).

We have a state capitalist uniparty (comprised of both left and right establishment politicians) funded by the privately-incorporated Federal Reserve and endlessly working for the top 10% of US wealth holders who own 88% of all stocks, 85% of all private businesses and fifty percent of all pensions. The entire system is geared to support this club (and yes, they are also mainly boomers). The Fed is essentially laundering its worthless counterfeited Federal Reserve Notes by purchasing real assets to the tune of acquisition of 3% of ALL US ASSETS per decade. The privatization of profits and the socialization of losses.

All the elevated political rhetoric from both sides is to make you feel as though your vote made a difference. This is to give you the illusion of choice. It doesn't matter who runs Congress or who is President, the Federal Reserve will still run the show, rigging markets and rewarding failure, all while still counterfeiting our currency and charging us interest to do so.

The Fed is essentially laundering its worthless counterfeited Federal Reserve Notes by purchasing real assets to the tune of acquisition of 3% of ALL US ASSETS per decade. The privatization of profits and the socialization of losses.

>The Fed is essentially laundering its worthless counterfeited Federal Reserve Notes by purchasing real assets to the tune of acquisition of 3% of ALL US ASSETS per decade. The privatization of profits and the socialization of losses.

>>The Fed is essentially laundering its worthless counterfeited Federal Reserve Notes by purchasing real assets to the tune of acquisition of 3% of ALL US ASSETS per decade. The privatization of profits and the socialization of losses.

Thread from Feb 6th 2025 194 posts
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/496654194

200 post thread from Nov 10 2024
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/487963430/#q487963430

the great irony here, is the more cash the public uses, the more it forces the Fed franchises to hold the interest-free fiat as liabilities (aka CIC cash in circulation) as can be seen in thee top half of this post and thus, making US taxpayers’ dollars less available to the Fed to be spent paying out the liabilities of IORB to primary dealers and interest on reverse repo transactions to MMFs
pic definitely related and from kupiec paper posted here

thee Fed had one fucking job, to provide the citizens with fiat to trade and THEY CAN'T EVEN FUCKING DO THAT

Why is the NOW over $1.1 Trillion/year in interest paid on our Marketable (aka Public Issues) and Intragovernmental Debt (aka GAS treasuries) never included in the deficit?
B/c the Fed gets paid first by the IRS, as the NYFed is the US Treasury's operating fiscal agent, then what is left over from IRS tax revenues, the NYFed then deposits into the Treasury General Account (aka TGA).
IOW, the fucking interest is taken out FIRST from tax revenues by the NYFed AND IS NEVER EVEN ON THE DEFICIT CHOPPING BLOCK.

With a red sweep, we will be able to see the Federal Reserve Uniparty in full view. Constant gridlock in Congress has concealed the true power of the Federal Reserve Uniparty.
Don’t forget that the right had prior full control for at least a year under Trump and passed NOTHING in regard to the INSOLVENT, private Fed franchises that are now bankrupting the US Treasury for every last dime they can get (mostly the NYFed).

Why don't we just issue US Notes ONLY for deficit spending? US Notes BENEFIT THE CITIZENS and DO NOT ADD TO our current debt. They could also be digital, only to be used in the US. Why don’t Musk and Trump ever suggest this? This is already fucking legal.
US Notes circumvent the need to borrow our currency from the Federal Reserve, that's fucking why.
Why do ALL of the proposed solutions to our debt only include the bankrupt Federal Reserve?

US NOTES ARE NOT A NOVEL IDEA, THEY JUST DON'T BENEFIT THE FEDERAL RESERVE, WHICH IS WHY US NOTES ARE NEVER MENTIONED DESPITE BEING THE EXACT SOLUTION THAT WE NEED RIGHT FUCKING NOW

<<<<—The red arrow is the running tally just for the US Intragovernmental Debt (as seen in this image ). These ‘unfunded liabilities’ include Medicare (~70% of picrel) and Social Security (~25%) and Disability (~5%).
$152 TRILLION (US taxpayers paid $237 Billion in interest on this Intragovernmental Debt in FY 2024 ALONE). This is the amount that is owed out, as of today, based on what was taken in, in (mostly) payroll taxes.

THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE the ~$35 TRILLION in Marketable Debt (aka Public Issues) that the public is always bitching about (US taxpayers paid $896 B in interest on this in FY 2024 ALONE).

they just admitted that the top ten percent drive 50% of consumption

tech/greed/narcissism/corruption destroys humanity one person at a time

people are surprised when the world turns into a superficial shithole loaded with people of low integrity, no skills and no standards

Watch as the Federal Reserve Uniparty owns, datamines, monetizes, surveils, and profits from every transaction on the globe:

today, most people are either:
corrupt (they are actively profiting)
compromised (someone is blackmailing them)
complicit (not outwardly doing anything illegal, but looking the other way so they may get theirs)
or
cowardly (they are too spineless to speak up)

We have all been living a horrible lie that only benefits those entities that issue the currency (24 international banks aka the NYFed's primary dealers) and those financial firms that they choose to fund.
This century-long, usurious scheme leads to a grotesque elitist class, inequality, misallocation of capital, and market rigging. This constant skimming by the privately-incorporated Federal Reserve Uniparty leaves the citizens downtrodden and constantly in need of new loans and taxes. Until the Fed has been abolished, we will ALL continue to devolve.

just a slow, quiet descent into GLOBAL mediocrity, poverty and crime

The NYFed, and its primary dealers — 24 private, nation-less, financial corporations, destroying the planet with national indebtedness, purposeful arbitrage and false scarcity

give me recent (last 72 hours) 3 examples of the "leftists" being angry about mega-corps losing money

david sacks, trump's aI and crypto czar supposedly just sold these assets

They used identity politics during Occupy WS to take it down and the retards who got indoctrinated into thinking social justice was the means to start a communist revolution are so retarded that corporations and financial institutions just dangled proverbial LGBT/BLM/Feminist keys in front of their dysgenic faces...leftist now defend billlionaire globalist interest.

Here are actual lefts protesting the WTO in Seattle 1999:
youtube.com/watch?v=pFamvR9CpYw&t=970s

NEVER USE YOUR TO

NEVER USE YOUR TO

oops lol
never use your phone to pay

Is not my phone, is just an open ai free years ago

It does at it pleases with microtransactions

microtransactions

lol can rob the even the poorest of people thru tech

can rob the even the poorest of people thru tech

like the 'fractional investing' mentioned below:

The NYFed’s primary dealers and their ilk want to tokenize all asset classes so they remain in a top, untouchable tier of shareholders that takes no risk and always gets paid.
pic related: JPMC is JPM, the largest owner of the NYFed private franchise
The NYFed-ilk BlackRock and Citadel have just opened a new exchange in Texas, where there are no capital gains on metals.
So, they are likely looking to have some con that involves switching from one asset class token to another (from treasuries tokens to MBS tokens to metals tokens) via blockchain asset tokens, then leaving with their gold assets with no capital gains.
*******These asset tokens would also allow fractional ownership, so they can fleece even the poorest investor.******************

Central banks are now acquiring gold to back their own currencies, NOT to convert from gold to digital, but to give them a seat at the NYFed/BIS/IMF TOKENIZED ASSET table
the global pie is getting bigger for these classists, as they sell each of their own nation's future productivity, making the domestic pie much smaller for each citizen.

Yes.

When they say "tax the rich", they really mean "tax white people" (excluding themselves). And Jews will find a way to make themselves "not white" for that reason.

pic related is how little corporations pay in taxes
bottom left corner

Leftists and rightoids all want better standard of living, which is achieved by cheaper goods and services.

Holy shit. Enough with your charts!

trump is a wild card
elon is predictable
Musk has predicted he will make the blind see, make the paralyzed walk, give tours around the moon, just signed a multibillion dollar contract in Jan 2025 to put the first woman and 'person of color' on the moon, audit the Fed, end the Fed, provide DOGE bounty payouts, audit Fort Knox, colonize Mars, and work with Ron Paul. kek
picrel is from 2017

<<<----more bad news

Once the NYFed's global "issue currency for bond debt" scheme begins to falter globally, next the US itself will then turn on the Fed, as most people will start to question the interest on this debt and start to question WHY THE US HAS TO BORROW ITS OWN FUCKING CURRENCY.

boomers' problem is they coddle invalidity and inflate their own worth and destroy the very fucking concept of currency, via giving themselves ever-increasing, exorbitant salaries ruining the standard of living for the generations that follow

the real question is;
how much damage are boomers going to do before they pass on and will it be irreversible?

when money replaces actual success, only the sleazy will be rich

when money replaces actual success, only the sleazy will be rich

have to go do some family stuff
be in and out

pic rel is AI

this is where we are now
people are going to have to become more useful
maybe all of the soon-to-be-unemployed bankers can take the new farming jobs created by deportation of illegal immigrants

pic related is to give the illusion of choice
the US and Europe work hand in hand

<<<----this, too, gives the illusion of choice as Trump has recently banned a CBDC in the US in an EO

US taxpayers paid the IRS $562 Billion in interest alone in fiscal year 2021 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s debt-based currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt
$562 billion
($562,000 million)
Pic related

How it is:

US government needs currency

US Treasury prints up some bonds

NY Federal Reserve creates Federal Reserve Notes out of thin air and its primary dealers then buy said bonds from US Government

US government now has new currency created out of thin air by Fed banks

Now, US taxpayers owe interest (and principal) on said US bonds, as well as paying a fee AND DIVIDENDS to the NYFed’s shareholders, the primary dealers (the big banks), this is the ‘Public Issues’ portion of the US Public Debt

How it should be:

Congress makes annual budget

Tax revenues are collected and any budget shortfall (deficit) is then new debt-free US Notes issued by the US Treasury itself, no bonds needed, no US Public Debt to issue our own currency

Are Americans ever going to realize this fraud?

when a generation sells the futures of their country and their offspring for unsustainable and lavish wealth and their offspring are too stupid to realize it

Wait until US taxpayers figure out that the payroll taxes collected for social security, medicaid and unemployment are then used to purchase specially-issued, non-marketable US treasuries (aka Government Account Series, aka GAS) and THE US TAXPAYER IS THEN CHARGED INTEREST ON THESE GAS TREASURIES BOUGHT WITH THEIR PAYROLL TAXES.
This is called the Intragovernmental Debt and is included in the US Public Debt. The interest that we pay on Intragovernmental Debt is in the left hand column in pic related and the other interest paid to borrow the Federal Reserve’s currency in exchange for US Treasury debt (these are called Public Issues —-aka Debt Held by the Public aka Marketable debt) is in the right hand column of pic related and the creation of these Public Issues is detailed in the text in Pic related is total interest paid on US treasuries for FY 2022 to borrow the Federal Reserve’s private currency in the form of bond debt (Debt Held by the Public + Intragovernmental Debt = US Public Debt)
$718 BILLION in interest paid
$718,000 MILLION in interest paid
$718,000,000,000 in interest paid to issue their Federal Reserve Note out of thin air in the form of bond debt in FY 2022

<<<——$882 Billion in interest paid in fiscal year 2023 (FY 2023) to have the NYFed's primary dealers issue our currency out of thin air in the form of bond debt ($666B interest on $34T of Public Issues plus $216B interest on $123T of Intragovernmental Debt)
$666B lol, can't even make this shit up

and we saw the 2024 interest US taxpayers paid to the Fed to borrow their fucking debt-based currency in this post

Remember when they protested CNN for not paying them? There's your sign, retard.

sorry about that, need more coffee

The NYFed runs the fucking planet, make no mistake about it.
<<<——— the international banking cartel driving humanity into the ground

private owners of the NYFed, aka shareholders aka primary dealers

privately-incorporated company

market makers for US treasuries

used to be 46, now there are 24

Five-time felon JPM is the largest

Behold, people! The failures of 2008 on fucking QE steroids.

24 nation-less financial corporations destroying the planet with national indebtedness, purposeful arbitrage and false scarcity

<<<<----also, NYFed fulfilled its diversity requirement by adding a new Primary Dealer, ASL Capital Markets, owned by an Arab banker (a minority-owned business), been in business three years and now issuing our currency

The Bank Of International Settlements (BIS) is the head of all debt-based central banks (and founded by JPM) and was created in 1930 under the Versailles Treaty to get money from Germany for all the nasty shit they did in WWI.
The Federal Reserve and the Bank of England existed way before the BIS, the BIS morphed into their central clearing house and check-kiting hub for the first fractional-reserve, fiat, debt-based central banking schemes run in a few countries and then expanded from there to installing its central banks in over sixty countries.
Pic related
Note Iran, Iraq, Cuba, Syria, North Korea, Afghanistan, and Venezuela are NOT on the list lol
Note China IS ON THE LIST

China begged to be in the basket of currencies under the IMF and BIS in 2015 and the yuan was finally used in 2017

only took the NYFed four years to get China bent over the table

Damn

Note Ukraine is NOT on the list, as it was a 2014 freshly-installed regional NYFed bank branch, it was still on probation
Russia is looking to get off the list.

The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.
Note that the NYFed and the Fed Board of Governors were just added as separate entities on this list

An India anon’s thread on the NYFed’s primary dealers:
archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/419352960/
<<<<——this thread shows the SAME primary dealers in all of the debt-based central banks listed in the image in , which reads just like the list of the NYFed’s primary dealers as seen in

The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

a few examples

>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

>>>The NYFed is similar to a space ship in sci-fi movies that hovers over nations and sucks up all the resources, slowly orbiting the planet.

i have dozens of these

The Fed Reserve’s Board of Governors are nominated by the President and confirmed by the Senate. The Fed’s Board of Governors is a neutered and ineffective regulatory body, and under regulatory capture by the NYFed.
The 12 Federal Reserve Regional branches are the public franchisors, public franchisors which sell private franchisee stock to private banks in their region.
The private banks buy stock in their regional Fed franchise, private stock which earns dividends of 6% annually.
The NYFed is the largest and most powerful regional Federal Reserve branch franchise. It conducts all trading for the Federal Reserve and is custodian for its assets. Its biggest shareholders are the private big banks, aka the primary dealers, that issue our currency in the form of bond debt, who are the market makers for these US treasuries and are now using those treasuries and QE to counterfeit our currency.
The Fed likes to confuse the publicly-appointed Fed Board of Governors with the privately-incorporated shareholders of the 12 regional Fed franchises, so people don’t realize we are paying private banks to borrow our own currency at interest.
Pic related

The NYFed is the largest and most powerful regional Federal Reserve branch franchise.

it is now bankrupt

gg do some stuff
afk

That's not real leftism!!!!!! Reeeeeeeeee!!!!!

I thought this guy was doing a great job when he was first elected. Then he went full retard and started acting like all the other shit-for-brains politicians he was supposed to be better than.

These aren't leftists, these are liberals. Know the difference.

Is there anyone who can help me to make this make sense?

The left has always been a catspaw of the banks, especially jewish banks. Jews have long bragged about a technique called "the gentile front"; once you understand this, you can easily spot it throughout history. Other races use this (even race-traitor whites use it against other whites).

why trump

Trump just started the mass margin-call of hedgefunds that held our economy hostage since 2008. Most of the anti-trump sentiment being pumped out right now comes from them. Hedgefunds are essentially the "base" of Trump's opposition.

this is what makes your "i'm a leftist not a liberal" pretentions laughable; you have a charicatured notion of both fascism and liberalism, especially if you're capable of deciding the latter is less insidious than the former

because its a facade]
trump isn't doing this on the behalf of the american people, everyone knows america hasn't really had much industry for decades, and its not gonna come back in 4 years
he's doing this to push the world the lower their tariffs on american products from companies on the expensive of american lower class

take one for the team, you can afford it!

There is no policy that fucks over the worker more than price controls.

Entire western left is owned trough and trough by corporations and kikes that are shareholders of corporations.

individualism is right wing

Oh yeah for sure let's just pretend that the next time private capital gets in trouble it's not gonna be the people bailing them out. What we have is collectivized risk but privatized reward; it amounts to socialism for the rich and a brutal, merciless capitalism for the poor. Wake the fuck up.

What we have is collectivized risk but privatized reward; it amounts to socialism for the rich and a brutal, merciless capitalism for the poor. Wake the fuck up.

this

as if thats not true for the right

I'ts more like in our two party system I don't feel like voting for the party of evangelical peckerwood white trash neoconfederates so I'm forced to vote democrat.

charicatured

Behold the power of home schooling.

The funny part of all this is that protectionist tariffs and dismantling the surveillance state are things leftists wanted since the 60s.

Oh you wanted tariffs huh? So surely you must want SEVENTY PERCENT tariffs on certain countries, right?????

Do you have to go to the hospital for water intoxication every time you get thirsty, or something? Trump's tariffs aren't stupid because they're tariffs; they're stupid because they're fucking stupid.

The people who argue the most strongly against economic protectionism are chabad jews.

The people who argue the most strongly against stupidity are the masochistic.

I don't feel like voting for the party of evangelical peckerwood white trash neoconfederates

like I said, caricatured. You're voting for branding (or counter-branding); if you're spouting bumper-sticker descriptions of who the parties represent (esp. if it's political cartoon tier), you've internalized the branding. It's not politics for you, it's just sportsball; panem et circenses.

Behold the power of home schooling.

autodidacticism used to be a virtue... I digress: you're not a leftist, you're a consociationalist; the perk of that being, you don't need to know what it means (or that it even exists). There's an intelligentsia you've outsourced ideology to; all you have to do is consume media to know what you support.

1) most working class people have 401k tied to stocks
2) people understand tariffs and expect them to exist but this manner of implementing them without any real study and their published math is retarded tends to make people mad
3) most American manufacturing that exists now still relies on international supply lines and pissing off the world is not good for their business

The funny part of all this is that protectionist tariffs and dismantling the surveillance state are things leftists wanted

isn't that ironic, especially since they'll literally kill Americans to protect and expand the surveillance state? They'd rather pull them temple down on their own heads than surrender that power. It's not mysterious that techno-managerial elites would be that ruthless, but it's still shocking how many average people will support it while espousing values opposing it.

most working class people have 401k tied to stocks

working class

most managerial class people have everything in 401k and are in huge risk pools due to dangerous investment fads like "chained HELOC loans" on multiple properties. They've volunteered to be held hostage by hedgefunds, just like pre-2008