THIS ORANGE FUCK IS OUT OF HIS MIND!
50% TARIFFS ON CHINA BREAKING NEWS!
THIS ORANGE FUCK IS OUT OF HIS MIND!
based
it was a mistake for everyone but the chinks to give them the production of our shit
That’s a total of 104%
Fuck you, faggot. Hope China starves you to death
MAGA tards don't understand economics.
based, fuck china
God I hope China doesn't back down. They have a once in a lifetime chance to truly fuck the American imperialist scum if they don't cave
50% additional tariffs, on top of the existing 20% + 34%
104% tariffs
honostly, your photo rings true. Its time for pooh bear to pay up for the damages he caused with the chine virus.
Good luck affording anything now, faggot. Oh wait, mommy and daddy pay your way!
Based
Will this make war more likely?
China is rapidly approaching the point where seizing Taiwan goes from a calculated risk to “fuck it”
I literally don't need China to live
I hope the clown makes them 9000%, lol.
kek based, can't wait to vote for him again
Trump is doing this because of COVID. China ruined his first presidency. And ruined the world. This is strict retaliation from the US to China for what the fuck they did to ruin the world.
If this keeps up someone will kill Trump and Vance.
Before I make up my mind about this, what does the jew think of this whole tarrif situation?
GLWT.
that’s pretty dumb considering the tariff alone would cause a huge loss of revenue from China- US trade. The importers will just stop importing and mutts will see their price hike like never before. So you will see a time where mutts have no goods because no one dares to import. Kek
I like it
Trump did nothing to stop the spread of covid though, he said to ignore it.
noooo you can't be mean to other countries!!!
Why would you defend it though?
You're missing my point.
Not these days. China diversified away from the US years ago now; they've gone from being like a third of all Chinese exports to about 5%
The rest of the world will tighten their belts and trade with each other and Trump will either cave or be made to cave.
Dems almost did it during his last presidency when they raided the White House. He went underground to hide.
china is actually gonna collapse before our eyes, huh?
Is America going to defend Taiwan? Not until the Israel situation simmers down
at what stage do they just declare him mentally incompetent and invoke the 25th amendment
Dude Trump is so stupid he's imposing tariffs based on trade deficits which aren't bad and now gets pissed when a country retaliates to the tariff. The foundation is in error therefor everything that comes from this and is based on it from Trump will be dumb.
Trump is surrounded by dummies, how come nobody is telling him his tariff impositions are dumb?
Just embargo China at this point. That's what it's going to come down to anyway and it's better to start adjusting to that reality before war starts.
When they can bully Vance into going along with it. I'd imagine people are dropping hints with him already
Why would you? That's pretty stupid.
Even if Trump doesn't cave, the next president will.
Don’t do shit to me. Imagine 3 percent of GDP loss just because trade between the US and China goes down to zero, somehow would affect an ordinary Chinese who buy most of their stuffs made in China? Are you kidding? Besides US deliberately seeks suicide, China can just sit back and watch because having less USD is a good thing to us.
China diversified away from the US years ago
lmao
They need Americans to buy their plastic crap, they will cave.
You didnt make a single point. Trump has no reasoning beyond, "trade deficit" which he does not actually understand. He literally thinks China is stealing, and not that Americans simply have more spending power. He keeps saying that China manipulates it's currency without any evidence.
Its really bad because the deficits are with essential goods. They export bullshit services. They can't lose everything or it becomes a security and political risk.
abuse our nation
Feeling abused already?
the US can't take 4 years of this neither can the world
Good and fuck-you pilled.
How tariffs should work, a succinct version
1) Supply tariff
Tariff all goods coming into the country for the industry you want to build domestically. These should be calculated to spur domestic industry while minimizing economic harm.
2) Punitive Demand tariff
Find export markets that are tariffing your goods, and punish them. Either tariffing their exports directly, or tariffing the country they mostly export to, using whatever economic and diplomatic leverage you have to pry open their market.
These two should be handled separately.
The supply tariffs should be well-calculated to convince businesses to move, and might come alongside negotiations with specific industry leaders.
The punitive tariffs are aggressive, mean, and intended to single out specific countries to impose pain. This is not a request, you are treating them as a hostile country. The amount of pain you can inflict on them should be weighed against the diplomatic leverage they have over you.
In order to assess to what degree US goods are being tariffed, you can study laws on the books. However, because of the thicket of regulations, it might be more effective to study local supply/demand. If they are importing significantly less of your product than economics suggests, you can chalk that up to a tariff.
if biden did this, all you conservatards would be screeching and calling him and insane retard lol. you guys are such kikes
The president of the United States conducts global measures that will negatively impacts millions of people across the planet on twitter for some reason.
Why can’t the US take another 4 years of this?
Trump fast tracked vaccines to make the pharmaceutical industry money. He also used taxpayer money to build thousands of ventilators which we now know ended up killing a lot of people because it was less effective than just giving oxygen. When you act like a dictator instead of thinking things through you get undesirable outcomes. Kinda strange that China is more capitalist with more checks and balances than the United States today.
why doesnt he just declare war and glass them
china does keep their currency at the appropriate rate for their exports, the same way the US federal reserve sets their interest policy for the US
that is not manipulation
I mean that they don't depend on each other and there are already tensions in the pacific so there's less of a problem if they fight each other.
America has never needed the rest of the world so I don't think that's an issue.
Trump listens to Gordon Chang.
Our trade with the US have decreased yearly since 2016 and now we don’t really care. Look which countries kneeled the first? It’s Europe and Vietnam because they relied on the US for their economy. Not us.
wtf I like china now
oh yes we can, we can take it forever because it will mean we move production back into the states
be american business owner
your bsuiness plan a week ago had 10% tariff
your business plan yesterday had 35% tariff
your business plan tomorrow will have 85% tarrif
what can go wrong
are you serious?
you missed, you lost, you will never be a woman
The world doesn't give a shit about German crying and you don't give a shit about what the rest of the world thinks. Give us a break.
absolutely delusional chinkpost
emotional response
ah, so you’re talking out of your ass.
europe did not kneel, you just failed to parse their words
because you make nothing except paper money and gay porn
Oh no china the EU says
China is on it’s own.
Ahhhhhh! You’re FUCKED.
move production into the US, that is the new safe plan
Now, King Kike Netanyahu is on the way to give Trump orders for striking Iran
Trumps going to sign an executive order to start immediate production of boot straps.
Massive eurocope detected.
You like China until they start helping Russia more
the next president
guess who
Lol you chink shills are pathetic
keeps yuan begged below dollar for decades
there’s no evidence reeeee
We’re going to tariff you back into the third world where you belong
Time to Put China in Quarantine.Tariff, Sanction, Naval Blockade and No Fly zone!
Nothing get in nothing get out. Those Fucker will try to do another Plague.
Based beyond all measure, would vote for him a 4th time if given the opportunity.
I want off Trump's ride
It’s geopolitical understanding like this that has led us to crashing the global economy with no survivors.
We really don’t need you people.
you can't move production to the US without investors, and i don't see many people investing in the US right now
Trump is elected for life.
germany is very weak poor and shit almost as bad as india, I agree with you we are declining and soon we will be as worthless and shit as india then nobody will take us serious
America has won it’s trade war, accept reality or suffer. It’s already over.
Maga voters need to be culled
Trump is acting like he has factory maker cards. He doesn't. He has blacks that kill smart, athletic, white students cards.
chins will fight back will ban the exports of rare materials so the prices of cars, phones, computers will double overnight
hahaha, the Great reset is coming from orange man, kinda funny
They put 20 percent tariff on you and you didn’t act back. That’s a kneel.
this is the bloodless war against china that has been coming for a long time
lol, 8 Trillion+ of new investment in the past few months
He's already 80. It'll be Weekend at Bidens.
why don't you try to deal with little tiny yemen first you paper tiger bitch
Drumf fell for the match me bro meme
Lmao you absolute retards
the EU slapped 20-25% tariffs right back, what are you on about, Miguel?
Yes it is chink bug vpn shill
sorry but do you really think the US can sustain this once it hit mainstreet? I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt and not assume that americans are this retarded, I was wrong
ORANGE FUCK
Seethe chink, can't wait to van you.
that’s not what your leaders just announced.
once it hits mainstreet
Ah so just two more weeks until America kneels.
the us can, international companies will be the ones hurt
US can't take 4 years of this neither can the world
4 years
Turkanon, Trump will get a 3rd term, so 8 years.
So it's 20% + 54 + 50?
It makes eurobeggars mad. That's why
Good
We need to get back to subsistence farming and tent living like the Democrats wanted.
That's what they're trying to change
We’re going to tariff you back into the third world where you belong
It’s like you are the one who is going to become 3rd world not us.
what did our leaders just announce besides the 25% tariffs? maybe im out of the loop - link it
This nigger is so fucking funny. MIGA deserve everything that's coming for them.
Trump loves negotiations. He's doing all of this just for the banter.
Also lol chinks. Get reckd.
Because even spoons in US are made in China
lol, 8 Trillion+ of new investment in the past few months
citation needed
20 + 34 + 50 = 104
with niggers and spics more than half of the population? good luck with that
look at the usa gdp
americans are nothing but coomsumers
the world depends on them
no it is not
Don't forget the 3% add on plastics and the 25%on steel and aluminum
I just threw out two dozen spoons because I have too many. What a perfect example of exactly why Americans don’t give a shit about less cheap crap from China.
8 trillions of fake talk is somehow an investment.
Kek
I hope xi stays firm this time. It's time to split the world in two. Taking half of the power away from the jews is a good start.
Nope. Trump isn't affected by dementia like Biden was. Keep coping tho.
Dude the markets are bleeding trillions, not gaining. What are you smoking?
Not really. He's trying to breakup alliances probably to destroy the future of the NWO. At least that's what I hope he's doing. With Trump though there's no master planning here, he usually just does whatever the kikes tell him to do.
An example
Let's say you want bottlecap manufacturing in the US, which is currently being handled in Vietnam.
You will tariff Vietnam's bottlecaps, spurring a domestic industry.
Next you will examine the big importers of bottlecaps. Let's say, Maylasia is one. You discover they are importing far less of your bottlecaps than they should, allowing you to calculate the tariff effect.
You will now propose a strategy to force them to drop the tariff. Perhaps tariffing their clothing exports by 60%. This doesn't impose enough pain, so you find their largest export market, Australia, and use your leverage to impose a tariff on Mayalsian clothing exports.
This way you have spurred the creation of a domestic industry, and secured yourself export markets to boot.
The downside is that punitive tariffs create demand in your own country for whatever you're tariffing, which can have wrong effects. Like let's say Maylasia won't take your bottlecaps, so you tariff their clothing exports. You just created demand for clothing manufacturing in your own country, something you don't necessarily want or need. This is why punitive tariffs are fundamentally different.
Watch us selectively default on the treasury bonds you bugs own. Your entire banking system will collapse overnight
that the EU is ready to do zero for zero on all industrial goods
which is really nothing that would hurt the EU
China is a paper tiger that will immediately collapse without access to the American consumer.
They can’t. They will collapse. Trump knows this and now he is going to cancel the tariffs on the rest of countries except China. Trump kneeled. Because China can just labeled the products in other countries and avoid tariffs.
More like Americans want to buy that desperate crap. All your Walmarts and dollar generals are filled with chink shit and you happily slop it up.
No NO!!!
WE WANT AMERICANS" MONEY!!!!
We want to buy America out from under Americans' feet!
We want to turn the USA into a third world shithole filled with third world shitheads!!!
KYS Kraut. you and your products and you money are not welcome here. Eat shit and die. Leave us alone!
Born right on time to witness the collapse of the US
feelsgoodman
companies moving / opening production in the US is all that matters, fake international 'wealth' of the 1% does not matter to me
This is FUCKING KINO and I will not hear otherwise.
Crazy how it took us crashing the world economy for you to come to the table over this.
cope harder yellow ape nigger
50% tariffs
You may as well just sanction them instead.
Stuff is going to get expensive in the US.
They still have over a 100 million white people. That's a lot.
The US military should take him down.
Dear China. I will take those excess BYD's off your hands. 15k. Interest free repayments. Thank you. Also if you throw in a qt 3.14 waifu, I will take the tinted windows and scatch free paint too.
Trvmp wants his daughter BLACKED
It already is.
you sound delusional anon
Will the 0 to 0 tariffs with Europe happen?
well we collected 3bn in tariffs and they collected 7bn in tariffs despite a -200bn deficit, 0:0 would mean they lose 4bn.
lmao, can ameritards parse text?
Former Trump voter here. This is hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy get the nuclear codes.
the EU has hardly any tariffs on the US by volume but a trade surplus
That is also a good thing. The world is being forced to dump its American assets to get the usd they are addicted to. Hope they go into rehab soon. Trump is doing more to de-dollarize the world than xi and putin ever did.
Tried to think of something witty to say to china
Fuck off you evil little bastards
Got there in the end.
America’s Brexit.
Congratulations America he’s doing what he said he’d do. Maybe they shouldn’t have tried to murder him and put him in prison and rigged an election against him. Now he’s pissed, it’s like Rocky 3
…he’s not gettin’ killed, he’s gettin’ mad
Yeah right. E.U. still charging us a 14% tariff over Trumps 10. Rest of the world won't do shit as usual.
It’s already happening, snow roach. Trump said he wants negotiations but everyone knows it’s a kneel. You just need to say something nice to him to let him not feel awkward. He is a massive narcissist.
Europeans are such disingenuous fags when they pretend this isn’t about trade barriers in general.
Keep it up and we will tariff you more, faggot.
Trump saved the eggs tho
you sound like you don't understand how tariffs work
based. old fucks selling off centuries of experience and wealth to empower china was retarded beyond belief.
clinton and has neoliberal ilk should be tried as traitors.
but they have to carry 200mil non-whites while led by jews. there's no coming back without genocide or slavery enacted for non-whites.
We aren’t allowed to talk about eggs anymore. They are too cheap.
American consumer
They want your usd. But if trump continues with his mercatilism and thereby creates a de-dollarization, your market will become extremely less important.
Which companies are doing this? No one is doing anything right now because Trump is a retarded loose canon at the moment.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO MY SWITCHERINOOOO
I MUST HAVE MY BING BING WAHOOO
this is not about trade barriers, this is about you hating on the consequences of being world reserve currency which trump calls losing on trade
be me
don’t own stocks
not my problem, lmao
enlighten me. are tariffs supposed to tank the economy?
Trump is the based accelerationist president we were all waiting for. Burn it all down and fuck everyone that's against this.
Bingo. They won’t be able to sustain their economy with dog and cat meat exports and spoke repair on damaged wheels from running over babies in the street.
unbelievable
Can he make it illegal for Chinese nationals to own land in the US next? That would be something.
Yea imagine is China dumps all their bonds, the dollar would be fucked.
Have you run out of sanctions?
That's great and all but when you tariff specific countries over very specific things they import you are really just throwing a bone to those special interest groups in America. It's better to have a lower tariff on ALLLL goods that come from a particular country so you're not picking and choosing what companies survive in America. I thought all this fucking communist planning and micromanaging of the economy was suppose to be bad.
Shitty spoons. I want higher quality ones which I will happily pay.
Why not?
this is not about trade barriers
It’s crazy how Europeans twist literally everything they hear to suit their ideological slant.
It’s about the trade barriers. It’s always been about the trade barriers.
Can you have your cousin give me a new Camry? Mine's getting old. Thank you, Japan <3 uwu :3
What are people going to switch to? The Euro? E.U. is even more of a basket case than Trump's America when it comes to trade.
covid was about to cancel the chinese century and make american century 2. then Trump trashed it all because his brain is leaking and his fans never had any IQ points to begin with
You won’t say that 4 years later. Once those goods in your storehouse get consumed and no one can supply, you will see how painful it is.
Sanctions don’t work lmao.
Im not reading the whole thread but can anyone give me some rough maths on how many seething chink shills are posting itt rn?
Vpns and leaf flags?
the international economy, yes
amwf spawn
Another proof that hapas are mentally ill.
Also anyone in higher position with east Asian blood shall not be trusted.
Cheeto man is destroying the country and driving us into war
It's so funny what happened to this Anon Babble
/ptg/ is just redditors from the_donald, and the rest of this board is brown commies shilling for gooks
He showed how fake the worldwide news is now he's showing how fake the worldwide economy is.
They're already enslaved. The jews and anglos have to relinguish some power and adapt or it won't work
No one cares what a chink has to say.
Just put a tax on it, 1/(the number of chinese people buying property) of the national debt.
once again, you say the quiet part out loud. if only you were more honest about your struggle with nihilism. we could've gotten you therapy, but instead you chose to vote for trump
That is Trump's intention. To bring America's assets back under American control. However, this will also lead to a global loss of significance for the usd. So everyone wins, except the globalists.
Australia has already started.
it is about trump being mad with trade deficit no matter how they accrue
The rest of the world will tighten their belts and trade with each other and Trump will either cave or be made to cave.
Uhuh. Now take away the US Navy which provides defacto protection and policing that makes all that trade possible. Since they won’t be doing that anymore, you can expect a Golden Age of Piracy that makes the last one look like a kindergarten slap fight.
Good luck niggers, Hope you like building a world class navy from scratch.
I approve of this
Trump triples down.
Trump is based
They say that second term presidents get more aggressive knowing it's their last four years. He's a menace and I love it.
/ptg/ are feds
Better than faggots like you
Wrong. Maybe you should stop operating off of your chosen narrative if you want to survive the harsh trade climate.
HA CHING HA CHONGO BUGMAN
noooo dont tariff my bughive
As long as it can be used to buy foreign assets, why not? The globalists are not very picky.
Trump is doing this because of COVID. China ruined his first presidency. And ruined the world. This is strict retaliation from the US to China for what the fuck they did to ruin the world.
Covid was a US bioweapon
Everyone knows Trump is different this time around with over $200,000,000.00 in campaign support from kike donors.
last four
implying
the US is consuming far more than they can ever hope to produce
The globalists are not very picky.
Meanwhile, in reality…
That would be fantastic. The West Coast would become affordable if all the bug ill gotten money was forced to sell
The idea is to change that. We have the capability
I can tell you're a newfag. /ptg/ was Anon Babble originally and it existed long before the_Donald.
wrong
according to trumps actions and words this is about the US trade deficit
Why do you think Vietnam has no tariffs?
Incorrect. He’s been very explicit about it being about trade barriers in general.
Niggy:
would yo date a BLACK guy?
Trump's daughter:
*silent*
Trump's immediate reaction:
YES SHE WOULD, SHE WOULD, I WOULD LOVE THAT
the societal costs of allowing niggers and spics to have rights weigh down too much on wypipo in usa - that's why everything is crumbling
can't work.
shhhh they're not supposed to know yet
same, I don't consume any media from China
why should I care what happens to them?
They have a once in a lifetime chance to truly fuck the American imperialist scum
American flag
You deserve to be killed by an illegal alien
will either cave or be made to cave
the EU is already coming to the table for zero to zero reciprocal trade offers today
Not in the choice of currency. As I said, it only has to offer access to investment opportunities. And if trump closes america to foreign investment, they will look for something new.
It’s literally about 80% of the posters here. I haven’t seen this much yellow seethe in years. It’s glorious
Weird way to say you are a nigger
Based.
Fucking chinkoid COVID spreading fuckers killed 7M+ people.
your demographics say otherwise.
you have a brazil tier population and your economy will resemble brazil's
It’s crazy how Europeans twist literally everything they hear to suit their ideological slant.
It's a coping mechanism. The Europoors, especially German, have been implementing suicidal economic and social Policies for at least two decade. They know they have fucked up, They know that they have made very bad decision. They will never admit it.
So they pretend to be better than American. Canadians have the same complex.
The tariffs just 50% higher.
Eat that you fucking kikes.
MAGA tards don't understand economics
This is such a hilarious comment to me because while I agree that most don’t, the only people who seem to understand economics 101 are defending Trump’s tariffs. It’s literally that bell curve meme where all the modwits just have half-true half-educated takes that fail to take into a account certain realities or consideration and then they scream that their ideological opponents don’t get it. No retards. You’re arguing strawmen and ironically are the only people who don’t understand. When the people who don’t understand economics defending Trump can understand what he and his admin say when they explain why they’re doing it. You absolute buffoons just ignore it or play games about it. For example, it is a known fact that as much as 80% of the S&P is just computers trading on price signals and don’t reflect confidence in the broader economy. Yet none of you can acknowledge this when you insist everyone, literally everyone, should care about a 3% 1-day reduction. It’s actually fucking mindblowing what pseuds you can be and how confidently you will insist you get it when to the people who really do get it, you so obviously don’t.
Because the E.U. constantly fucks with trade. They make Trumps volatility look like a blip. They also, more than the U.S. even, see financial institutions and instruments as state tools for leverage. It blows my mind during this upheaval how ignorant a lot of Euros are over their perception in the rest of the world.
Kek
What did I just say
I think once you examine these countries and their tariffs, you will be able to get industry aggregates.
Like you will find that, in general, Taiwan tariffs all manufactured goods at around a 25% rate.
I think the punitive tariffs don't need to be over specific goods. They just need to cause whatever pain possible to make that country drop their tariffs in general. This is your high stakes diplomatic combat arena.
But I draw a distinction between those kinds of tariffs, and supply tariffs that are intended to spur domestic industry.
One problem that I have not accounted for, is what happens when another country uses whatever leverage it has against you. What do you do in that scenario? There is surely some calculation there.
I think you would need some metric to gauge the relative diplomatic power a country has, given its economic and military ties, before engaging. Also how much diplomatic capital you have to spend.
Not only did they mention trade barriers in the press conferences but noted it on their graphs and press releases lmao.
Based, go for full embargo, fuck Reagan's legacy LMAO
Do they not teach reading comprehension in india, sar?
Kek
American's really are retarded and think having the reserve currency and being able to print fiatbux and spend them anywhere, while exporting most of the inflation to USD bag holders around the world is American's being taken advantage of.
Crazy
They have a once in a lifetime chance to truly fuck the American imperialist
America will be unable to purchase iphones, causing foxconn to close. Meanwhile, China will be unable to afford 30% of its food, which it buys from the US.
He isn't closing it. He's trying to force it. Almost the opposite. And it's already working on smaller and weaker nations like mine.
He keeps saying that China manipulates it's currency without any evidence.
without evidence
CCP dropped $0.02 in your account. Look at a chart of the exchange rate between USD/yuan . It's a fixed rate for a supposedly floating currency. Chinese currency manipulation is a fact. You're a piece of shit traitor
some rough maths on how many seething chink shills are posting itt rn?
Not enough. They need to seethe harder or add more bugs to match one American r*dditor.
the jew should be in panic mode in theory because jews make up the middlemen in any transaction.
Payment provider, banks in general, VAT - all goes to big jew.
it all feels like a desperate setup, because King MIGA wouldn't do this without his handlers. This is all to kick the debt can one final time.
he won't do shit
Good
DONT CRY FOR ME ARGENTINAAAAAAAA
Anyone with a basic understanding of economics know the tariffs are bad. This is the most reddit shit I've read in a long time.
He's right. China can go fuck themselves. That's the sentiment of most of the world already. They cheated their way to the top by stealing intellectual property, ignoring labor conditions and pollution, manipulating their currency, government subsidizing monopolies and preventing foreign businesses from operating there, and the list goes on. They have developed their economy in the most duplicitous and bad-faith means imaginable, and nobody should do business with them.
Over 2,000 mainland-listed companies in China reached their "limit down," where trading is halted after a stock drops by 10%.
Expect the same tomorrow as panic orders are already in to pull out before the next "limit down". Many will fail, increasing panic for more orders to pull out.
Retaliatory tariffs really fucked themselves, KEK.
Based, fuck China. I'm fine with it.
America is finally destroyed.
The entire industrial activities will be halt because all parts, materials and basic assembling lines will no longer be available. Mass layoffs will start.
If you're American you bomb them...obviously. Whenever someone doesn't do what we want we punish them instead of trying to workout a deal that is mutually beneficial. What Trump is doing is harming America pretending he's some great negotiator. It's the same stupid shit when they start wars and declare themselves the winners when they decide it's no longer worth it.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO YOU CAN’T JUST CHARGE 50% MORE FOR MY PLASTIC JUUUUUUNK!!!!
Unfortunately literally every major retailer will be evading these tariffs so your Walmart trash will be safe from the King in Orange.
For some reason people can’t appreciate that tariffs are not, for us at this time anyway, supposed to be some careful targeted calculated mathematically objectively correct number for maximizing external revenue. The whole point of these tariffs is slap these countries and the firms that use them for production in the fuck face. It’s a mob shakedown, a billy club to your fucking legs. The point is to sock them in the mouth and go “Either you pay up, come home, or come to the negotiating table, or I keep breaking your fucking legs (financially). You might fight back and I might get a black eye but in the end I will shatter your legs so bad you won’t be able to walk again. So submit.” That is how these are supposed to work and the numbers used are simply whatever numbers are believed to achieve that.
the hear is 2039
Trump is about to finish his fifth term
The tariff war between Trump and China is never ending.
My wife wants to host a birthday party for her coworker
she orders a happy birthday banner from China for $1.19 using my credit card
3 weeks pass
get a call from customs
Sir we're calling to collect a tariff on this item you ordered
That'll be $439,258.12
I-I can't pay that
We see that you have a mortgage on a refrigerator box in San Francisco. We'll be putting a lein on that to cover this transaction. Have a good day
Shit from China doubling in price is still going to be cheaper than buying American, and the American consumer will simply eat shit.
That’s so funny to me because I’ve published two papers on tariffs and I just know for an absolute fact that you could not be more wrong.
I mean, they've been buying CHF for years. So much so that the currency appreciation has almost ruined our entire export economy. When the usd no longer offers investment opportunities, they will choose the euro or another currency that offers more investment opportunities. Stability is an important factor, but not the most important one.
Agreed. 50% is absurd.
He should make it 75%.
things are gonna get spicy before this trade war ends
Link the papers
This board and the Internet in general are heavily propagandized. The Democratic party itself is an arm of the CCP. Trump does what needed to be done 20 years ago regarding China. The reason that it didn't happen then was that importers were making a lot of money for themselves.
The drop shippers that flood us with chinesium are freaking out about their businesses going tits up right now.
China will be unable to afford 30% of its food
They will just buy from Russia, Ukraine and Brazil
It's true.
And they do it by hoarding US dollars.
They should stop this IMMEDIATELY and start hoarding euro's instead :P
the huge difference between china and everyone else is that they’re not ruled by kikes
Ok you have problems with economics 101, read a little about mercantilism. Helps a lot to understand what's going on.
Did you read or listen to the speech the Secretary of Defence made?
We also face a peer competitor in the Communist Chinese with the capability and intent to threaten our homeland and core national interests in the Indo-Pacific.
The U.S. is prioritizing deterring war with China in the Pacific, recognizing the reality of scarcity, and making the resourcing tradeoffs to ensure deterrence does not fail.
Deterrence cannot fail, for all of our sakes.
As the United States prioritizes its attention to these threats, European allies must lead from the front.
Together, we can establish a division of labor that maximizes our comparative advantages in Europe and Pacific respectively.
TL:DR - The US is decoupling as much as possible with trade with China in preparation for a future war.
Europe is supposed to keep Russia occupied while the US pivots to China.
Kek, that proves China needs to increase the price for meeting the global demand. Now after Trump another 50 percent tariffs, we should increase the price X2 for meeting the price of their products. But still cheaper.
It's stupid. No pharmaceutical company is going to close factories in china to produce meds basis in USA.
You can't cultivate cocoa in the USA.
the 'kikes' are the ones screaming loudest about this
If they don't have plants...who are they laying off?
I can already see Jeff Bezos licking his chafed lips right now at the prospect of Amazon controlling the entire supply line. He'll get a Brown waiver and convert all his shipping warehouses to shoddy manufacturing facilities, going from the line to fat ass women's front doors directly, stuffed full of tenporary mexicans.
MAGA! Go Trump!
Us flag
Us
Go back, chang
The whole point of these tariffs is slap these countries and the firms that use them for production in the fuck face. It’s a mob shakedown
The way that Trump is running this right now, is a "shock and awe" beatdown strategy. I think this can be effective in the short term.
But as a long term diplomatic strategy, there needs to be doctrines established.
Frankly the Trump administration's "tariff equation" was a bit embarrassing and I think misguided.
From China you import the raw material for your medicines.
Imagine holding this sign up and feeling like you are fighting for something...
Russia, Ukraine
Perhaps China will even negotiate a peace between those two in order to secure their food supply?
That would be epic and the world will praise Xi, he'll certainly get a Nobel peace prize.
Has Eggseth ever looked at a map I wonder?
TL:DR - The US is decoupling as much as possible with trade with China in preparation for a future war.
Europe is supposed to keep Russia occupied while the US pivots to China.
The US is the only country that went full juche. China is doing free trade with everyone. They just made several new trade deals with many different countries.
Again, like what I said. Mutts will enjoyed a period of time with no goods. Most of what they buy will be out of stock. That will be a very interesting time to see.
Why? Consumer goods went up in price after globalization. Nikes and Apples cost more. None of these labour savings went to the consumer. Is Apple simply going to price themselves out of existence to protect Tim Cooks bonus?
Jews *despise* tariffs. It was one of a handful of things they agree on.
Ancap jews like Milton Friedman and Murray Rothbard, socialist jews like Paul Krugman, and communist jews like Marx and Lenin all hated tariffs and support 100% free and open trade.
Based and revengepilled
It's not enough, we need to drag the people responsible for offshoring our manufacturing out of their retirement homes and throw them in federal prison for the rest of their lives. That fact that our government isn't currently doing that makes them complicit, and THEY need to be imprisoned for it too.
Then, we force all those prisoners to assemble iPhones until they are worked to death, anti-suicide nets and all.
He can go higher than that!
China is gonna lose bigly
But there is no reason to think the Euro or Yuan will be preferable over the USD. Both these powers are still more unfriendly to investment and trade the Drumpfs burgerland. What else is there? Gold? Bitcoin?
China does not care for Xi Jing Ping contrary what you think, say this is a good thing, he want to return to a planed economy.
Honestly, as a leftist I’m loving this. The last time republicans did global tariffs, democrats held a legislative majority for over 40 years. It’s already starting to happen, 15 point swings in Florida and Wisconsin, republicans losing 49/49 partisan township races in the most conservative part of Illinois. We are looking at a bright future once midterms come around, we might even get actual healthcare and rent controls. Just gotta weather the storm for now.
If anyone replies “You lost” or other shit like that I just have one thing to say: Godspeed you retards. The more you do now, the better my life will be 10 years from now. Whatever you do, don’t repeal these tariffs until after midterms please
Trump administration's "tariff equation" was a bit embarrassing and I think misguided.
Durrr i watch msnbc for my news
Shut the fuck up faggot
this
Chinese garbage has already been getting more expensive. Get rid of it all.
Who cares what he said?
That's emperor Trump to you 51st state
We are witnessing the fall of the American Empire in real time. This is so exciting bros.
You're wrong, but I wish you weren't.
But what does President Musk have to say about that?
if trump closes america to foreign investment
Only closing it to the ccp and their companies. Everyone else is welcomed and he has secured lots of foreign investment here already. For example TSMC is investing here to fabricate chips, Hyundai is opening a steel plant and increasing production of their cars. There's more and he will secure more
I'd like to welcome the USA to the Cuckoo tariffs club! Now that you're past the 100% threshold, you can join Brazil in our select third worlder "I CANNOT BUY SHIT, PLEASE HELP ME, MY VERY SPECIFIC HOBBY RELIES ON IMPORTED GOODS :(" Club!
The greatest in the north and the greatest in the south, destined brothers forever!
Not true, retard
Nothing will happen. If something happens, I will film myself sucking tranny cock.
how will they evade them?
Yeah we earned less USD that in the future they might kick us out of switch is somehow a loss. For me, it’s a win. Because those bank accounts will face Russian sanctions and now we just need to use them as quick as possible.
based.
Fuck China.
we should nuke that shithole
We already know about the judeoanglo golems and the zogbot army trying to manufacture consent against China.
Don't worry though we will prevail and crush the liberal world order aka globohomo aka americanization
The existing investment is to adapt production to the existing internal demand patterns. It's not to expand the productive capacity of the country in relation to the rest of the world.
China is mercantilist. Why has this seemingly been successful for them?
Smuggling through your cucked border and libtard states
We don't play soccer here.
The gayest hobby right now is nintendo. Everybody else shoots guns and breaks down shit rigged junkyard trucks at derbies.
WRONG
Kek, immediate export stop of all rare earth material and in general everything that is used for military and civil transport production in the USA.
Let's see
Reminder to all the foreign flags crying about the USA: you don't have the cards
Cheaper food for Muricans now.
Get REK’D GloboHomo
daily chink thread posters are now daily pro chink thread posters
ayy lmao. bow down to the new chinese empire.
The war will come just in time to solve the massive unemployment crisis the financial decoupling will cause.
You’re just objectively wrong.
This is how this guy makes deals when he’s being robbed. He’s always been like this. He did the same thing when he showed up at NATO and called them out for not paying their %. The difference is the way you deploy leverage there is by deploying the military. Obviously he didn’t want to do that so you resort to words. Here, you resort to policy. The point is to use taxes as a weapon. He is basically saying “our priorities are shifting and if you don’t work with us I’ll break your kneecaps (financially)” and he will do it btw. None of these countries have the cards they need to win this in the long run. China obviously has some leverage but it’s not the most critical leverage. I think the big concern though is that he and his admin are a little delusional about counter-party incentives and their own ambitions. Russia is like a perfect example of this. Trump probably imagines Russia wants to make a gas deal to alleviate price pressures. And they’d definitely be willing to if the terms were right. But they’re going into it thinking that regardless of the terms the Russians want this and they don’t necessarily. They’re happy to withdraw their economy. Not everyone is the liberal pacifist we are and some governments are more than happy to see their citizens die for it. Russia brags about a secure economy in spite of sanctions, but how many Russians have died in Ukraine for the war economy that helps secure it? Trump isn’t that guy, and he wants to imagine the rest aren’t that guy, but they are. I think the real risks are Russia and China as usual. The rest are screwed either way, Europe especially.
Very convincing argument, now face the wall commie
We only buy basedbeans tho. You wanna eat more basedbeans?
America is becoming isolationist and flirting with war. We absolutely do need to produce all of our meds here.
China will likely retaliate with banning even more exports or rare earths to USA. They control more than +95% of that market, it is impossible to replace in short, even mid term. Without rare earth metals there is no chance of bringing high tech manufacturing to USA. Actually the opposite, you can build Teslas without rare earths.
Everyone else is welcomed
Is that why the tariffs on the others? China was only the first who reacts.
It's all tariffs from here.
commietards don't understand economics. Trump is the only world leader who does.
fuck temu!!!
just reveal your identity on Anon Babble
No?
The actual content of the papers are irrelevant anyway. My point is that you are arguing an ad hominem, and one that isn’t even accurate.
The CCP has been DESPERATE to replace the American market for, like, what, 10-15 years? Longer? Let’s see if they man up. Or are they too tied up with the usual Asian business corruption thing and can’t break away from it?
Anyway it honestly doesn’t matter. The Democrats / left power establishment has been marshaling the mobs and both the Senate and Congress will break, and they are literally the reason why Trump has been doing anything at all. The tariffs will be gone very soon, maybe as soon as today going by how hard the power structure has been pushing. Even if the MAGA Republicans stand firm the tariffs will be slapped down by an injunction by an activist judge and then Trump and the Republicans will just blame Democrat judges for everything and not do anything about it.
Theirs is actually worse. Ours is 92% but stores only pay around 40%. In the US now it's 50%+ for most countries plus all the additional taxes that each state might impose. And stores can't get rebates on this value like they do here because it's a blanket tariff sort of thing.
Our trade with the US have decreased yearly since 2016
You have been using other countries to filter your shitty products through and avoid previous tariffs
Vietnam has been playing sucky/fucky with you along with other asian countries
At least be honest Chang, lying only makes you look worse
askiring fo a fliend
This
Not just that, we need to get taiwan and block Taiwan strait so that millions of goods going to the US will be stopped. Now enjoy 200 times inflation in the US, Kek.
Isn't that sill lower than the tariffs China charges the US?
No, but seriously
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Not my cheap plastic trinkets! Our garbage dumps will do layoffs!
China already banned the export of rare earths to America.
It was part of their initial response to the 34% tariff.
Amazon’s been doing this for years. They have a whole line called Amazon essentials that is manufactured in China and labeled Amazon before it’s shipped to America. They’re just going to use this as an excuse to expand into more products. Scale will be win the day for them. But we can ask the question, what is better: letting Amazon dominate the market, or letting China dominate the market?. You can break up Amazon if you want to. You can’t just break up China. If the short to medium term result of this is greater market capture by American big business that is ironically probably a good thing in the long term.
Much coco!
You underestimate us, we will genetically engineer cocoa beans that will grow in the south east
Is this trade war already bigger than the first? Where can I find some stats?
Do you mean the consumer market? I don’t think that’s accurate.
Poor regions will often not have reciprocal trade on-net with a rich region, even in the complete absence of tariffs. There is often a third party country in the equation balancing the score.
Texas exports to Florida, who exports to Minnesota, who exports back to Texas. It balances out, even if there's technically a trade imbalance between Texas and Florida.
I think this is the case with many of these small third world countries. The poor countries around China will export to the US, and import from China. Even in the absence of ALL tariffs that would be the case.
Therefore, judging reciprocal tariffs by trade-imbalance is misguided. I think you need to judge local supply and demand curves for the industry, which will allow you to figure out to what extent they are tariffing you.
Also if a country isn't taking your imports, the only leverage you have against them is tariffing their exports, which could be completely different industries. They might not even export most of it to you, but to a local regional power.
Like it might be necessary to squeeze China so Cambodia drops its import tariffs on you, for example. Apply leverage however you can.
I gotchu bro
It would take at least 10 million Indians in Germany to truly make it India, until then you guys are safe.
Taxing shit is good actually!
Go kill yourself nigger
this is good and I say it as a european, china russia iran north korea ecc are forces of evil and need to be put down, if you can't regime change them they gotta know to never step out of boundaries
Kike Chinese and kike Anglos, kike Euros and kike Americans are all taking a bath right now. It’s the greatest thing I have ever witnessed.
God bless based Trump.
wow, you guys are discussing white labeling to avoid abusive taxes? Are you going to set up all those white labeling "factories" on an enterprise zone in the middle of nowhere too? I suggest Alaska.
See, we both knew that sooner or later you would be just like us! :)
Your plastic stuffs are shipped from China. And now they will be out of stock because there will be no importers. They all sit and watch. Enjoy the time when you buy less and less in purchasing power.
Why has this seemingly been successful for them?
Who says it's a bad idea? I think trump is right, but he should start telling his supporters the truth. If he continues, there will be less consumption and more work.
Taxes are tool, that can be used effectively or ineffective with certain pros and cons either way. You are simply a fucking moron or a pseud if you can’t grasp that indisputably true fact.
*sniffle* *sniff* china no need america, dey dont care *sniffle* really!
Bro, it's over. China never really did anything well other than stealing, copying and reproducing cheap nonsense. China is done.
No, retard. I’m saying they currently white label but that goes away to some extent with these new tariffs.
and what makes you think they can sustain paying double for what they consume? the US needs China imports far more than China needs dollars. they have been preparing for this for years.
China is done
lmao
Trump did nothing to stop the spread of covid though, he said to ignore it.
Trump immediately stopped flights from China, and was called a xenophobic racist by "come down to China town" Nancy Pelosi.
the MIGAtards dont like the free market when a new demand for triangle shipping and various other shipping alternatives pops up and is met with a supply
China diversified away from the US years ago now; they've gone from being like a third of all Chinese exports to about 5%
are you a chink med school dropout?
Just because you currently control a market doesn’t mean it has to be that way. The single biggest reason China is the world’s leading producer in most products is simply because it was cheaper to do there. So for every 1 good you could have produced in America, or Latin America, or Africa or wherever you would prefer to do it in China because it was cheaper. Now it’s not cheaper so productions just shifts.
Kek, mutts can evade that by just using their vessel states to purchase those goods. We should ban export of those worldwide to avoid mutts getting away from sanctions. So that their jets and high tech will halt.
Nobody is going to have a lower quality of life by having less plastic shoddy goods in their homes.
this, he shut down travel and was called racist / over reacting. Then when it turned out covid was not as bad as the WHO / big pharma were saying they called him evil for not doing 'more'
Honestly what they have done to the world is 100x worse than anything Japan did leading up to WW2 and we put a total embargo on them. I would laugh my dick off if Trump’s next move was to blockade them.
Chinese stats are all fake
Any Americans who think the Chinese are not ready for this and determined to resist should read this.
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There are a questionable amount of rare earths in Ukraine. I think that was mostly a lie.
The haven of rare earths is in Iran though. If the US got some kind of resource deal with Iran it would solve all the problems.
Look, if you want to be taken seriously, you cannot say stupid shit like this. The US economy depends heavily on Chinese imports.
MAGA has never been a le free markets political faction. That is for the retards who are still clinging to delusional libertarianism. Trump in particular has been pushing both tariffs and protectionist trade policy for decades. He told Fox News he wanted it badly in the 1990s.
they're going bankrupt you fucking mongoloid
fuck jews
fuck niggers
fuck chinks
globoschlomo can suck it
apollo / saturn v - 90% whites here and 90% manufacturing US based.
the usa was at its greatest before gold standard was dropped, before the border was open, and before subhumans were more than 10% of the population.
Don't worry. Lula has taxed the importation of products over $ 50 by 100% and removed the exemption below $ 50 (mainly from your ally Chines), all to help Havan's bald man and Dona Luisa, and follow the motto "broken companies and taxing the poor". Brazil is always at the forefront of taxation
Libertarianism is gay. Most of the reason magazine staff vote democrat.
Just because they have a response doesn’t mean they have a chance. They have the best chance of anyone at winning a trade war, but at the end of the day, China is nothing more than the world’s factory and their single biggest investor and consumer is America. Their only way out of this is a war economy or finding someone to replace their biggest investor and buyer, which will not happen. It’s really that simple. China can survive, it will be severely wounded.
their stock market crashing all the time means they are going bankrupt not that its fucking fake
Brainlet
Trump is a populist. Nationalism is popular, especially when the common man is suffering while the top 1% internationally have the largest profit margins ever
Shift with nothing isn’t a shift.
Most mutt companies already shifted back to 2010. Now their manufacturing companies are bankrupt because they can’t produce anything profitable without government subsidies. Meanwhile Chinese manufacturing companies are profitable and the scale is 100 times bigger. Now our scale might get cut by 10 percent but still is 90 times bigger. Meanwhile you have less products, inflating currency and more debts. Enjoy that price for face saving.
Hahaha is that true? I believe it. Libertarians are a problem honestly. They’re worse than Marxists. They’re just totally delusional and have naive beliefs about what works and is achievable. It’s crazy too because most of them preach that we should just return to the ideals of the founders but many of the founders, most famously Hamilton, supported tariffs.
Just for the record I also think China is literally stealing. They fuck with their currency to take advantage of us, they nationalize companies and steal their IP, they infiltrate our companies and steal everything they can get their hands on. They drag the ocean floors stealing as much food as they can then undercut local markets with their ill gotten goods. I’m willing to suffer for a while to watch these Covid spreading, bat eating niggers freak out.
For idiotic reasons. We used to not have to replace our appliances once a year. They lasted 10+ years. Some Jew wanted a Chinese kickback and moved a once solid company to China to have cheap plastic shoddy goods assembled by children. Pure ethics should be cheering this shift.
propaganda chink admits he is a propaganda chink
k, thx
Retarded take.
Tell us, when exactly will this production come back? Will the business be built over night? Will the supply chain figure itself out in a week or so?
Also don’t forget you have less competition. Just wait another 5 years to see how that brings to you. You will forever buy an inferior product with more costs.
The idea that there’s nothing to shift to is a chang fantasy. It doesn’t align with reality. America could form the robust and highest output ag, natural resource, manufacturing, etc. economies like *that* if this vision was unified and China wouldn’t be able to stop it.
for most things a few years, some stuff might take months, other stuff might take a decade or two, either way its for the US's benefit.
Chinese manufacturing is subsidised though. It's the key reason the E.U. slaps an even higher tariff on them than Trump's new one's.
I'm sure the poor rustbelters will love seeing the dollartree they depended on being closed for business. At least they can find solace in the fact that you and politicians got the opportunity to make the economy "more efficient" for them as they go hunting for raccoons to eat.
be Trump
start shit for no reason
say if anyone retaliates, he'll start even more shit (the Putin playbook)
expect China, a country 4 times the size of the US, to just sit there doing nothing
China starts making deals with other countries instead
all the stuff that the US was importing starts getting sold at better rates to all of us
US struggles for the next 4 years as an impoverished hellhole
the rest of us build valuable and strong connections with each other that excludes the US
even when a real politician makes it to the US presidency, nobody will want to take the risk of including the US any more
I didn't know that Trump hated the US as much as we all do.