TRUMP SAYS HE THINKS "PUTIN DOESN'T WANT TO STOP THE WAR"

Finally he has realized this fact. Putin wants the war to keep going as long as possible. Ideally he wants to keep it going at its current slow burning pace for the rest of his life. He sees it as his way to hurt the West and knows he can keep throwing men at Ukraine to grind them down for years to come. Even if he had all 4 oblasts given to him he wouldn't end the war.

"There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns over the last few days," Trump said in a post on his Truth Social platform.

"It makes me think that maybe he doesn't want to stop the war, he's just tapping me along, and has to be dealt with differently, through 'Banking' or 'Secondary Sanctions?' Too many people are dying!!!"
ndtv.com/world-news/donald-trump-on-russia-ukraine-war-maybe-he-doesnt-want-to-stop-war-trump-slams-putin-after-zelensky-meet-8263661

A little slow, isn't he?

but I thought we had to keep giving money to ukraine because the war hurts russia and it doesn't impact us at all

Not on Donald's terms.... why would he.. . RUSSIA is winning spaz. Take a knee. YOU LOST FAGGOTASS

Putin won, Russia won, Ukraine lost, NATO lost, USA lost.

he does not really have a choice but to continue.
have you seen recent ukraine/eu proposal?
it is comical. We are forced to erase ukraine.

He's sending a political message, you retarded eurofaggot.

Kek

The time to do that was early on and not what Biden did.
Biden's 'strategy' was drip feeding Ukraine gear, just enough to 'not lose' but not enough to win and over time not even enough for that. Every time Putin warned about tanks, f16s, himars, etc then he would cuck out for months and months.

Putin's economy is running entirely in war mode. High salaries being paid to everyone who has been put into jobs in the military industrial complex. Huge government spending. A massive economic stimulus package in other words. Russia's inflation level is high (10%) but he's doing his best to keep it from going higher than that at the moment, the current model is sustainable for a good while.

If the war ended right now then Russia enters stagflation. Add that to the list of reasons Putin doesn't want the war ended.

no he is not. he is virtue signaling trying to refuse Russia it is only and main advantage.
We are winning and we can dictate any therms while we do. If we stop fighting we lose every advantage we have and give trump the chance to spin it in any way us wants to.

He's high on copium. Even if the war ended tomorrow and Ukraine ceded territory to Russia, Russia is completely cooked, economically, militarily and demographically. This war will set them back by decades.

Like what?

I listed some of the things above.

you life

freedom from western capital creates more job opportunities here. There are lots of industries that have to compensate for it. We have to design and produce our own planes again. Our own everything. Our job market is incredible now.

There are millions of examples of things like that.

can you back that up with numbers? because we are doing way better than you niggers.

it is been going on about 10 years
Cimmeria very big
think about how Rome speaks

Well Russia doesn't have enough territory. It's the main thing their lack. Once they have more territory, they will be rich and powerful instead of a shithole.
I asked about (You) anon, not Putin's place in hisotry.

Our job market is incredible now.

I imagine. Lots and LOTS of job openings yeah? Why do you think that is?

in Russia they do not have doctor zelensky governing them
they have options
the Orthodox Church is something ethical

are you a homophobe or something sonny?

because there are new companies that have to do what western companies used to do.
if we are talking in simple therms

What is in the proposal, lad?

it is very humiliating. They want Russia to surrender.

this dude did a good report on it
youtube.com/watch?v=GosPXDKQfuY

Ahh it's all due to demand is it, not a drop in supply? What new job did you get because of the war? The one you're doing right now as we speak?

You realize the war has cost more than it would have to simply buy out those western companies from the Russian market. On top of that the Germans would still be buying your gas.

I got a programming job for the military. It is needed to fix and service army equipment.
the pay is good and the job is interesting.

I got a programming job for the military.

Is that a euphemism for working at a shill farm?

IM GONNA END THIS IN ONE DAY

N-never mind Im just gonna make Russia a poorer shithole instead...

MIGAniggers fell for it again

lol

it is just one example. He is trying to spin some narrative that "a common" russian is doing bad right now and it is a lie.

in fact life is way better than it was before the war as far as I can see.

no I write here on my spare time. I am quite patriotic.

Your country also have such software in fact you pioneered this field.

Memeflag makes an abhorrent post

A tale as old as time

ART
OF
THE
DEAL

How many Russian casualties would be too much to accomplish the goals of the special operation in Ukraine? Is there a number? There has to be objectively because there's only so many of you one this earth. But how many would be the point at which you personally would say "This isn't worth it"

to answer that you should ask yourself first what would be the consequences of a defeat.
so there is no number that will be too much.

there is a war song from ww2 that has following lines in it:
And that means we need one victory,
One for all - we will not stop at any price.
One for all - we will not stop at any price.

youtube.com/watch?v=rMmy7RCILI0

you niggers have no idea what you are fighting against.

Why aren't you in the trench?

there is no number that will be too much

yeah that's what I figured. you have a comfy computer job and stay away from the front, so it's not surprising that this is how you feel

He thinks? LOL

putin wants to look good in the history books

That train has gone by. To hell with the bolshevik spirited stalinists chekist putin, btw, to hell wirh him.

you have no idea what you are fighting for and against you dumb nigger

because I am more useful here.
Why aren't you? according to your narrative it is what eu wants.

nigger I am not fit to be a soldier. I am a nerd.
But I am from a military related family.

This is what military is needed for. This is what it is all about. Nobody needs military for peaceful comfy times.

Muh humiliation

I thought we act on fact and logic, not on waaaah my feels got hurt I got humiliated? You feel humiliated so you must destroy your economy and demographics to feel less humiliated? Damn you are truly animals.

I actually do. You are the one who lies to themselves. It is your choice.
everyone does one in life.

your post is deranged. I guess you are not german.
do not (you) until you have a point to make.

why are you posting on Anon Babble while your country is getting invaded by pakis/muslims/indians?

But I am from a military related family.

Ah, the nepotism keeps you in that comfy computer job and not in Storm-Z. Many such cases.

We are forced to erase ukraine

you could pull back your troops at any time and chill but you won't because your economy would collapse from being shifted to wartime.

no health requirements. We are not ukraine who catches anyone on the street and sends them in meat waves on suicide missions.

stop trying to spin my words.

Russia can survive without the west, and look who the fuck's talking about muh demographics when you live in a t*rkroach-infested vassal state to the jewnited states

there is no wartime economy.
in fact I dare you to prove it with numbers.

The reason why we can not stop is because the root cause of this war is not eradicated. Pulling back would not accomplish anything. In fact it will be a win for you and you know it.

Delicious, delicious damage control. Feels nice to be vindicated.

when the war ends you will be needed to impregnate all the women to repopulate Russia.

What is the root cause, please help me understand your current position.

Well I think it's great that you think no amount of Russian casualties is too much, while you stay comfy because of your asthma.

Trump is of Anglo-Scottish-GERMANIC stock, his default position is to keep making money and not fight, but I think he's realising there are some fights that can't be avoided, it helps that his current wife and first wife were born in Eastern Europe and fled to USA.

there is no wartime economy.

Nothing happens in Russia, until you're pulled to the frontline.
Basic economics would prove it though, Russian inflation is shit, so they're increasing wages via war-motivated reasons. No war? The wages go down, economy crashes. No business with most other countries = crappy economy. Oil and gas is also super cheap right now thanks to Trump, which eats into Russia's biggest revenue stream and makes you poorer.

current position.

our position never changed.

There is a 30y old project run by deeps state in EU and US of destroying Russia.
First surrounding it with nato countries. Subverting population there and putting their leaders in charge.
Secondly Using ex soviet parts of Russia to continuously destroy Russia.
Thirdly taking over new formed countries out of Russia, enslaving it with western capital and getting access to it's resources. Then start over from step one in case there is anything left of us.

We are ending it here.

I asked you to prove it with numbers not to show that you know nothing about Russia or our economy.

Pictured, what you will be dying for:

to simplify it for you they want to colonize Russia the same way they did with Africa.

and they do not even hide it all what I wrote is in the open for anyone to read.

nice try taras. Your simplistic tactics would work on liberal not me.

God damn Russian design aesthetic makes the Arabs look demure by comparison.

picrel:

Trump:

If the war doesn't end soon America will pull out and let Russia have total victory

Also Trump:

Why the fuck doesn't Putin want the war to end?

subverting population

Every ex Soviet country that's aligned with the West has seen mauve intervenes
improvements in prosperity and quality of life while the Russian government is controlled by Jewish oligarchs that steal from you.

It's funny how Trump believes Russian propaganda and actually thinks they're winning. He fell for the "2000 holhols encircled in Kursk" meme too. You completely stopped hearing about it as soon as he repeated the line.

it is a nice oversimplification and a big lie.

What happened is prosperous very successful countries that were on the level of any other eu countries lost all their production because it was competition to your markets and got enslaved.

That temporary improvement is a part of your war strategy. Poland is pumped with money not because they love poles. It is continuation of western berlin strategy where developed world collectively fighting against soviet union.

You do understand that Russia is not able export anything more complex than refined natural resources? Russian share in innovation world market is insignificant.
Yes, it has Yandex and Tinkoff, but what's the point? You have to compete with players whose clientelle and hence revenue is orders of magnitude larger.
Japan, Sk, Singapore, Taiwan and China did not grow within

kursk status nafo trannie?

poor innocent Russia is a 3rd world shithole because evil 1st world won't let it bomb neighboring countries booohooo

It's so trashy I think even the Kardashians are blushing. Just look at this chandelier on monke's yacht, no doubt he's been told having dangling crystal on a boat is a bad idea but he must have expensive crystals on his light fixture so let's just fix them to what looks like a diamond encrusted base. monke is the kinda basic bitch who would phone up a luxury goods supplier and just ask for the mot expensive option on everything.

on your markets where your capital does not let any competition to come in sure. But your markets is nothing.
Africa, India, Middle east and China are the future. And there we have a lot of success. Especially recently.

Also at very least we sell weapons. so it already breaks your narrative.

I dunno. What happened to the 2000 encircled holhols? Have they been interned in the biolabs or something?

No USSR countries were prosperous or successful compared to the West. You're too young to know better and indoctrinated by revisionist propaganda. Your former president Yeltsin was reduced to tears by visiting a US grocery store and the realisation of how shit your country was.

oh typical nafo.
He makes a point and then he himself arguing with it. If you want to talk to yourself you do not have to do it publicly. It is a weird form of mental masturbation

it is very humiliating. They want Russia to surrender.

Seems about right, you faggots invaded under the pretense of "de-Nazification".

1) Yeah, China totally has miniscule share in the Western market and low tech export, amirite
2) Africa, India buy tech from the West and China

kek. nigger.
Yeltsin was living in a country corrupted and crippled by perestroyka. Not soviet union.
But soviet union trying to mimic western values and approaches to things.

Ironically perestroyka is what trump does to your western world right now. So you will feel this on your own skin very soon.

there were many good reasons to invade.
and all of them were legitimate.

You have one oversimplified one because it makes it easy to subvert and control you.

freedom from western capital creates more job opportunities here. There are lots of industries that have to compensate for it. We have to design and produce our own planes again. Our own everything. Our job market is incredible now.

Reads like bullet points ripped right out of your state tv, how has YOUR life been improved in any way? did your dad die and get you a lada for his service?

Russians need a strong leader to keep a boot on their throat. Same a niggers need a massa with a ready whip hand. If you give them any slack, they go feral and chimp out.

and Russia.
They are one of the biggest importers of everything we produce.

you know nothing about Russia and sadly about US too.

I wrote it above go read it if you want to.

I know a lot about your kind. De Custine was right about everything.

and what is the source of your knowledge?
exactly.

The USSR was already fucked long prior to Perestroika. That was just Gorbachev's failed attempt to fix it.

How does trade and economic relations with western markets impact your autonomy negatively, while eastern markets do not?

can you back that up with numbers?

I can back it up.
Russia is demographically finished because of low birthrates combined with massive amounts of young people fleeing the country, even before the war began this was the case (60% of youngsters in Russia planned to leave, 2018 statistic).
The low birthrate combined with young people leaving the country means there is no hope, and to make it even worse the only people in Russia who do breed are Muslim, this means by 2050 the RF will be 50% Muslim.

The war hasn't started that problem fundamentally but it has accelerated it.

That is long term, aside from this, what I said earlier ITT about the economy entering stagflation if the war ends.
Putin obviously believed this would be a quick landgrab war rather than something that would sever all ties with Europe and basically everyone except China. If it had been a quick war like him as well as the Western militaries predicted then it would have been a worthwhile decision.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Russie_en_1839

Monke wants new clay
Russians (slaves) are EAGER to die for 1 square meter of new clay

western markets have products that make it unprofitable to produce by ourselves. This is achieve through globalization.

It is easier to buy boing than develop your own planes and alloys for example.
When west removed itself from our markets it created the breathing space for our industries that we were forced to abandon in 1991.

NAFO melty
kek

Ok, but participation in trade with the west does not require you to outsource your manufacturing.

prove it with numbers

"The State Duma admitted that Rosstat's inflation data for 2024 are far from the real figures. Inflation reaches 22%, and in the case of the "borscht set" - up to 31%."

magadanmedia.ru/news/1960347/

"Russia's Coal Industry on the Brink of Collapse: According to the Ministry of Energy, 27 companies with a total production volume of 40 million tons of coal per year are already on the verge of bankruptcy. Another 62 companies with production of 126 million tons are at risk, as they suffer losses above the industry average.

In general, in 2024, the Russian coal industry received 129 billion rubles in losses before tax, while a year earlier it had a profit of 357 billion."

probankrotstvo.ru/news/ugolnaia-otrasl-rossii-na-grani-kollapsa-27-kompanii-blizki-k-bankrotstvu-8358

"Russia built 15 times fewer airliners than planned.

After the invasion of Ukraine in 2022, the Russian government promised to build 108 civilian aircraft in 2.5 years. To date, only seven have been assembled, or 6.5% of the plan.

dzen.ru/a/Z2-8UdRxUSg27ZlE

Trump is so stupid. Putin played him like a fiddle.

planned

kek.
do you have stats for this year? you will be surprised with our birth rates.

you have not proved that anything with numbers you posted your meme forecast.
muslims is less than 10% of our population.

There is no stagnation there is only growth. And it has nothing to do with war it has everything to do with your sanctions.

Our ties became stronger while the west isolated itself from the rest of the world 80% of people on this planet.
Brics is all about it.

your meme talking points are funny but they do not have basis in reality. They have some ground only if you judge by your media article titles.

The reason I asked for numbers because I wanted you to see for yourself that you are wrong.

western capital is very aggressive it specifically tries to kill any competition. In many cases it specifically take losses to kill local production.

And what does Russia produce?
Look, there are contenders for better positions in the world.
There is India. There is China. But unlike Russia, China is far more calculating and cautious than Putin. They, step by step, methodically increase China's influence by softpower and intricate maneures. They are so good at it, that Trump losing his shit, trying to wage tariffs war. Trump directly stated that China is the main threat to US dominance. And as you can see current american president does not seek rivalry with Russia, not because Russia is strong, but because it make China stronger.
And than there is Putin, who is just boogeyman for hohols and eussr

and your inflation rates nafo nigger?
does it mean that you are collapsing too?

Putin is starting to come dangerously close to bruising Trumps ego lol

Sure would be unfortunate to make the president of peace seem like an idiot for giving you everything you ask for and then continuing the war anyway.

Humiliates zelensky

cuts all military aid

blames ukraine for the war

takes NATO membership off the table

And even despite all that pernicious Russia keeps attacking and making false promises. Won't be long now before the military industrial complex starts whispering in trumps ear.

Your understanding of economics is embarrassingly simplistic if you genuinely think it's preferable to make inferior products at a higher cost than to simply import them and divert your economic output to industries that you excel at.

this is the funny part. WE PRODUCE FUCKING EVERYTHING.
We are the only country in the world that is completely self sufficient.

This is one of the gifts of Soviet past

Muslims are 15% of Russia's population, and they breed massively. The projection is correct because it's fast breeding Muslims combined with the loss of everyone else through the reasons I mentioned.
Putin is well aware of this which is why he made it illegal to 'hurt the sacred feelings of Muslims', his words, not mine.

There is no stagnation there is only growth. And it has nothing to do with war it has everything to do with your sanctions.

Stagflation happens when unemployment is high with rising inflation, which is the only logical result of the massive economic stimulus package from the government to fund the war getting stopped combined with everyone employed due to the war suddenly being out of work. Inflation is 10% in Russia right now and Putin has been trying hard to keep it down.

your meme talking points are funny but they do not have basis in reality. They have some ground only if you judge by your media article titles.

It's nothing to do with 'media titles', it's basic economic facts.

actually this is exactly what I am talking about.
With western products out of our market we are forced to produce worse products than what west offers but it is a production on our land.

And there is a catch. We did not have the ability to save that production in 1990s but now we can .
Even if sanctions go away those productions will not.

Yeah that's great if you are a pariah that no one wants to deal with but most countries figured out a little something called specialization and opportunity cost.

There's a reason bill gates doesn't mow his own lawn.

We are forced to erase ukraine.

the funny thing is nobody is or was forced to do anything. russia placed itself as a force of aggression between the eu and china. deadly decision. meanwhile the us is committing suicide for unknown reasons. fun times ahead. fun times that could be avoided still but in putin's mind the die has already been cast. belarus would have been next after ukraine but his plans leaked. very uncomfortable to have a leader like putin to put it mildly.

"There was no reason for Putin to be shooting missiles into civilian areas, cities and towns over the last few days," Trump said in a post on his Truth Social platform.

I know, right? What a monster

in your dreams nafo troon.

this is your narrative that has no basis in reality.

With western products out of our market we are forced to produce worse products than what west offers but it is a production on our land.

Yeah, the retarded part is where you think this is a good use of resources for some reason.

no we have tried a peacefull solution for 8 fucking years.

Your planes can't compete with boeing and aerobus marketwise. Your cars can't compete with japs and germs. Your chips (elbrus) can't compete with TSMC. Your electronic can't compete with Samsung and Xiomi. Your soft can't compete with Microsoft and Google.
You produce EvErYthIng, but everything is shit

The only thing that matters to russians is their czar. As long as Putin gets his fifth palace with golden toilets, they think their nation is rich and powerful, even as they live in a shack with no indoor plumbing. That is the russian cuck mentality, and it has always been.

right now it is inferior but in 10 years it is same level in another 10 you are importing our products.

this is how it works

So your plan is to gain market/resource dominance over the East like the USA gained over the West? Hasn't China beaten you to it?

*You produce EvErYthIng, but everything has better alternative for foreign custumer

it can and it does. Not in every field but still.
Also notice how every other field is done by one country and it does nothing else. This is what globalization does.

we are a country with only 144 million people and we are doing everything.

That Trump hasn't already pulled out of NATO outright and had Zelensky put down is proof that he has Jewish hands up his ass, maybe Chabad really believe they can get yet another round of stolen American tax dollars with trafficked children and weapons.

Everyone with an IQ of above 80 has already fled russia. You don't have anyone left who could develop any technology. You are literally Africa tier now. You will never have anything to export except natural resources, and even those you can't extract on your own, you need white people's know-how to do it.

That's not how it works at all though

a deadly view indeed. justifications are meaningless in the global game of power.

us is committing suicide for unknown reasons.

The reason is that capitalism shit the bed and instead of making adjustments we doubled down on failed policies in a vain attempt to save our dying empire. We are sort of going through our own soviet style collapse and Trump is our Gorbachev. Well meaning but doing to little too late thinking the same old thoughts of a bygone era.

Our elites would literally rather turn the country into a failed state like Russia than invest one extra penny in the citizens by raising wages or implementing a fair tax policy.

you ruskies make winning look awfully strange

not in every field. And it is in China's interest to have a strong Russia near by.
We do not want dominance. We want our own production of everything for Independence.
Our products come without hidden clause like they do from the west or china.

There are some fields however like planes where we will dominate the world market.
We will never manage to dominate car markets or chip production but there we will be the first in the world.

No, anything more complex than aluminium does not

nice cope

with china and germany it was exactly like that.
You would know if your country produced anything

it is a complicated conflict with a lot of parts moving independently.

how about our weapons I mentioned above.
why do you ignore it?

Turkey, India, China all buy it in bulk and prioritise it over nato weapons.

Here's China for comparison

kek we are not china.

Just 30 years ago we had an apocaliptic lever event here. And we are doing very good considering.

Because it's insignificant in trade balance

with china and germany it was exactly like that.

You would know if your country produced anything

The UK doesn't need to produce anything because it sells financial services and intellectual property. You're reinforcing my point that countries excel when their economies are geared towards their strengths.

And the message is that he's slow.

wow bro you really got him with that one, surely ukraine will win now because of your heroic contribution to the effort

trade balance lmao.

So in how many years are we going to see high-tech planes, cars, processors, or... anything from russia that rivals western tech? Right now you don't have shit. You are literally Africa tier. You know it's true but jump through vatnig mental gymnastics to avoid admitting it. Countries with 3 times less population than yours are wealthier, more advanced, and more relevant on the world stage. You are not much more than an insignificant insect, a vassal state of china.

toniblerim you are the last person who should speak about IQ

no your economy only exists because it is a part of western capital.
You do something western capital allows you to do. For historical and convenience reasons.

With us it is different. Western capital systematically tries to destroy us. Pick a reason for that by yourself.

when your little sham of economy finally collapses with US falling down there will be a domino effect and you niggers will take the biggest hit.

You sucker punched a weaker neighbor and did a bold face land grab then were arrogant enough that you thought you could pull off the same trick 8 years later.

If you want to play imperialist that fine, every country wants land and resources. But good God at least have the dignity to own up to what you are doing instead of playing the victim while you make your moves.

And for all of your whining about how mean old USA screwed you over it is never acknowledged that when the soviet union collapsed George Bush Sr. Literally went to Ukraine and begged them to stay with Russia but you assholes were so shitty to them they voted to leave anyway and they were even nice enough to give you their nukes under the assumption that you would remain on friendly terms instead of getting backstabbed decades later.

The USA has for the most part tried to be friendly with Russia but it is always you with your hubris and arrogance who undermines any gesture of goodwill because you just can't stand the idea of not being in the spotlight.

you can see it already today.
We already doing it.

When this war is over and the sanctions are lifted boing will not feel good.

if you ignore the global geopolitics and 30 years prior the conflict it would be true.

But because of those it is not true.

This war is not about ukraine. In fact it has nothing to do with it. It is just a battlefield.

and your inflation rates

kek, pidor ... nowhere near your 22%-31%

"The current annual inflation rate in the U.S. is 2.4%, which is slightly above the Federal Reserve's target of 2%. This is a decrease from the previous month's rate of 2.8%. The Consumer Price Index, which measures changes in the prices of goods and services, fell 0.1% in March."
bls.gov/cpi/#:~:text=read more »-,News Releases,Charts | Local and Regional CPI
here's and illustration:
"Moscow grocery prices are higher than in New York City, but the average salary in New York is 4.3 times higher than in the capital of the Russian Federation."

charter97.org/ru/news/2025/4/23/638132/

It seems you value the potential of reaching "cultural collective" goals rather than the promise of opportunity on a more individual level that western capitalism offers. Is that a fair assessment?

no your economy only exists because it is a part of western capital.

You do something western capital allows you to do. For historical and convenience reasons.

That's how the entire world functions, you retard.

With us it is different. Western capital systematically tries to destroy us. Pick a reason for that by yourself.

The West has actively tried to engage with Russia and allowed you to generate tremendous wealth by supplying continental Europe with oil and gas but your retarded government keeps fucking you over.

Russians are like jews and niggers but worse. They are literally "dindu nuffin", the country. Always blaming someone else for them being shit.
Funny how you forgot to give one specific example.

No retarded faggot. It took him 6 months and a painting of him 20 years younger to realise what everyone already knew for a half year

WE PRODUCE FUCKING EVERYTHING.

NO YOU DO NOT, pidor ... and never have.

30 years is a whole generation. It's nothing but a skill issue of a leadership

oh you are ukranian. Make sense.

First of all you should also consider eu countries - they are a big part of it.
Secondly those are based on official numbers and we both know that US lies about those. You can do the same check with prices you did for Russia above.

That illustration is a lie - 5ka.ru/ here check for yourself.

Nah, there is something good and useful in having home production of goods. The UK doesn't even produce anything other than fish, agriculture, oil and machinery - and we've got a lot of coal also, but we're trying to move into solar industry, whilst simultaneously dimming the sun (?) and not permitting ourselves to use the coal or oil we're sitting on but we're going to sell that abroad (?) also the machinery we do produce will eventually go abroad because it too is unsustainable, along with agriculture and fishing because that was deemed as harmful to the environment.

This country is a joke in comparison, simple production at home of all useful goods needs to be considered, once a war happens and those goods are cut off there is no alternative.

yes but in general we have no other choice.
Historically western capital tries to genocide and enslave us. This is the basis of Russian history. It is a history of war with the west. Almost never east btw.

We see it as our only path of survival.
West is not giving anything to us but misery.

Interesting, very insightful. Thanks for all answers.

no that is how your western capital does you retard.

no they did not. From the day one they pumped Poland with money and starved Russia.
You refuse to sell us technology and systematically trying to cripple our industries.

Nah, there is something good and useful in having home production of goods.

Emotional woman tier argument

Lol are you retarded. That's literally AliExpress

which day are we on on the 24 hour stopping war operation?

I can give you 3 actually
Ty-214
sj 100
MC-21-300

Be a belligerent, warmongering, kleptocratic dictatorship that threatens everyone else

"why won't you sell us your technology"

Why are you such niggers?

always had before 1990 and now we do again.

There is a 30y old project run by deeps states in EU and US of destroying Russia.

Name those persons from USA and EU plus their exact countries, and post documentation for them wanting to destroy Russia.

First surrounding it with nato countries.

Which NATO countries will they move to Asia and Arctics in order to surround Russia?

Secondly Using ex soviet parts of Russia to continuously destroy Russia.

Post documentation for them being interested in Russia and other ex soviet parts.

Thirdly taking over new formed countries out of Russia, enslaving it with western capital and getting access to it’s resources.

Post documentation for them wanting to take countries, enslave them and get access to their resources - and document why on earth they would want it.

those were not comfy and profitable 30 years. We are still being attacked by the west.

Putin doesn't want to stop the war? But Zelensky started it? What?

based on official numbers and we both know that US lies about those

kek, you're truly a retard

it has similar design - choose your own russian shop then - there are thousands.

He's missing that the French and Japanese and Koreans often ignored these embargoes and until recently had no problem working with the Russians even after 2014. Thales France for example gave them thermal imaging systems for tanks. Even their drones were originally designed by Israelis (IAI Harop)

Historically western capital tries to genocide and enslave us.

No, it's only your paranoid fantasies. Nobody is trying to attack you or enslave you.

This is the basis of Russian history.

Yes. Your entire history is nothing but lies.

have you ever produced a mobile phone, one on the most common items in the modern world, pidor?

check nuland for starters.

they tried afganistan and now trying Canada plus Greenland. Those are about arctics not anything else.

search it yourself nigger I have million shills to fight by myslef here.

I base that opinion on Nazi documents. Since every nato leader is ex nazie or some child of nazie it is a fair assessment.

I looked those up, and those seem to be shitty planes using 50+ year old technology. No wonder planes are falling out of the sky in russia everywhere. You have never flown on a western plane have you? Even an old airbus 320 is far superior in every way to anything you are able to build. And mind you, you were only able to build those before you went on your nigger chimpout and lost all your technology due to sanctions and people fleeing.

Attacked? Yeah, China is also being attacked. Do you think it enjoys South Korea, Japan and Taiwan with american bases. Again, Russia is just stupid for 21st century. It makes shallow and stupid monkey decisions, like a child throwing tantrums. Short-sightened and oppurtunistic

Trump said the same thing after he talked with Stubb.
He changes his opinion every time he talks to some

You are not being attacked. The EU doesn't give a shit about Russia. They only want cheap gas from you. Proof is before the sanctions the Russian rich could go to school in any eu capital. Yaughts had free access everywhere. You could spend your money everywhere. Invest everywhere. Nobody gave a shit. The rich know, the poor blame. Sorry for you.

they redefined the recession therm just too look good in media.
also you are a retard yourself.

Kek ww2, napoleonic wars and countless wars before that.
You decide to ignore your history and avoid complex topics because your side does not look good in it.

we did many times. One made some noise back in the day Yotaphone with 2 screens one normal one and another eink on the back of the phone.

It's AliExpress mate. And the only thing Russian i would buy is Faberge.

what part exactly is shitty or 50+ year old?

also you just do not know anything about your aeronautics. It also consists of old tech.

No china got everything gifted to them. They betrayed Soviet Union back in the day and became a part of western capital.

But then happened something they are affraid could happen with us. China outperformed US.

Putin won’t stop because why would he? The performance has been embarrassing overall for the 2nd largest military but you’re balls deep in the war now, too many problems will arise from stopping it now. It’s win or nothing

yours

yours

If it does not why does it give so much shit right now?
exactly. They want free gas from us not cheap one.

You see western economy, Western capital is barely can sustain itself. It does not work properly. They NEED to destroy Russia and rob it to keep it afloat.

This is why us not being destroyed hurting the west so much right now. It is not something we do. It is them falling apart and us waiting it out.

it is not embarrassing and it is just a first war in series.

We won ww2 back in the day because we had a "humiliating" victory over finland just before it.

This war is a training war for what coming next.
and in next wars ukraine will fight by our side.

two more then
vkusvill.ru/
utkonos.ru

all I hope is at least one nafo trannie from above will go and check his own sources for once.

two prototype phones with all Chinese components designed in the US with a sticker "assembled in Skolkovo" is not a russian phone.

china got everything gifted to them

like the USSR and russia did

your phones are produced entirely in china too.
the rest is debatable

It is not the only phone and most other ones do suck a bit. There was a phone from yandex for example.

That’s not how it works - you publicly accuse 1.1 billion people for ridiculous criminality, post the actual NAMES plus documentation for your claims!

Since every nato leader is ex nazie or some child of nazie it is a fair assessment.

Post the names of the nato leaders who are ex nazists or children of nazists, and post documentation for them being this.

no with Russia and USSR it was different. It was back to berlin wall scenario.
Instead of western Berlin there was and still is Poland

Because you invaded a neigbour country without any reason. The EU had to show their balls (which they don't have because they cut down on military each year) to protect the baltics. But that doesn,'t matter. You are talking about "us" (Russia) being destroyed, but no one in Europe thinks like that. We just don't give a shit about you guys. All we want is the war to be over so we can get our cheap gas again (although we don't need it anymore) and go back to ignoring you guys again. We really don't want do destroy or hurt you. You are already doing that to yourselfs.

1) "Betrayed", "being attacked" -- that's also child mentality. And the problem that Putin is thinking in this terms. Very simple, very shallow, and with no understanding of what really makes one strong in 21st century
2) And where did China ended by "becoming part of western capital"?
Russia is run by an idiot, who don't think beyond 4-5 years, which is strange given that he don't have to care about next term re-election.
While other countries try to integrate in world economy, so they later can have leverage, Putin goes full ooga-booga on source of his frustration. Like some nigger with gun

1) "Betrayed", "being attacked" -- that's also child mentality. And the problem that Putin is thinking in this terms. Very simple, very shallow, and with no understanding of what really makes one strong in 21st century
2) And where did China ended by "becoming part of western capital"?
Russia is run by an idiot, who don't think beyond 4-5 years, which is strange given that he don't have to care about next term re-election.
While other countries try to integrate in world economy, so they later can have leverage, Putin goes full ooga-booga on source of his frustration. Like some nigger with gun

I do not have time for this. You do.
First nato leader was ex nazi. Not some random nazie hitler chief of staf if I am not mistaken Google it if you want to learn more I am not going to do it for you.

Wow even a 60iq niggerbrained orange retard can eventually figure out that putin is an evil, useless piece of shit.
Only took 2 presidential terms to figure that out.

without any reason

it is not true and if you think it is you have no idea about politics and simply repeat what you heard on tv. It is pointless to argue with you in that case.

You niggers don't learn.

to protect the baltics

We very much appreciate you.

Nobody gives enough shit about you to want to invade you. You are just stupid, submissive, and afraid. You're no different from jews. Your leaders know this, and that's why they lie to you about the reasons they attack Ukraine and other countries. Everyone outside of russia knows the real reason, that you attack purely for conquest and rape and murder and looting.

it is not we were in one block and they joined our enemy and even had a small war with us.

When they moved all their production to China.
China copied their products and started their own production taking advantage of their huge domestic market. Now they are the first economy in the world and world's factory.

The first one is a dropshipping site from China. The 2nd one seems to be legit. But you are missing the point. I do wish you all the best. I hope you can buy shit for cheap even if it's from China. My point is European citizens don't hate you, don't attack you. They don't even think about you.

actually you do not and keep repeating the samethings. We do learn and this is why we are at war right now.
It is a part of our learning experience

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How does this happen? New bugs popping out of Anon Babble after it went through fixes?

He doesn't need to personally understand it. He just has to position himself politically so that down the line he can say he came to the table and Russia didn't.

this is part of your media dehumanization campaign. The fact that your government did it kinda suggest that they do care.

...and Russia is too stupid to do so

First nato leader was ex nazi.

Name, and proofs?

Ok, tell me why you need it when your country is 90% empty without mentioning the "great Russian empire of the past"

it does not care what they do. It is geopolitics.
You people are just along for the ride.
you do not decide or affect anything because you live in "democracy"

it is a bot.

The soviet union is not returning. Anything you gain is in vain. You would be much better off aligning yourselves with the states and normalizing relations.

why would putin want to stop the great replacement?

You're not making any sense. What did my/our government do? You russians literally bombed Kyiv yet again two days ago with the sole intent to kill civilians, and you ended up killing many. What justification do you have for bombing schools and hospitals, and indiscriminately killing civilians? It's terrorism pure and simple. How are you not terrorists? Or is it something that you don't know happened because your state media doesn't tell you?

no we are not allowed to do so.
As I said west does not move production here because it is afraid that we will do it.

you should actually read what I write.

trump is just saying that because the fucking jews want more war with russia to feed their kike machines.
putin, while doing god's work in helping resist destroy globohomo, he looks like a cuck for the jews.
but zognald is the biggest kike lover on the planet.

Yeah it's not really geopolitics when you can't even take the poorest "eu" country as the "2nd" military power of the world is it?

Tomorrow he will say something else. Trump should have never bothered with this nonsense and cut off Ukraine when he took office in January. Jewkraine, the EJu and Jewssia are not interested in peace. Europeans are blood thirsty barbarians, let it play out as it will.

Breaking News From Israel! Kikes hate Trump/Putin/America/Russia/White people omgggggggg I never knew that!

google it there are hundreds of you and one of me

we do not. In fact we said it many times.
It is just a battlefield as I said above. It is not about ukraine and never was. It is about nato vs Russia.

and it should not. It is not about the union. No we tried it for 30 years. Enough is Enough.

joined nato for example even though historically you are passive.
Supporting our enemies for example.

There are countless wars like that started by your block. This war could be avoided. We tried to negotiate for 8 years and yet your countries pushed for it.

The fact that we invaded does not mean anything.

American hedge funds are waiting for Russia to join the rest of the world. They will pour money in if that ever happens. Russia has a pretty competent (White) population that will work for relatively cheap.

Everytime I see a Russian flag I feel sorry for how poor these niggas must be LOL

I need to piss brb.

We very much appreciate you.

We'd rather you weren't overrun with russians too, don't know why trump doesn't see it that way, but fuck putin.

google it

Lel. You russians lie like you breathe but you're lie-fu is not that good. You do a good job convincing yourself of the russian lies you are told, but obviously no one else will believe those retarded claims.

it is a lie because you had 30 years to do it.

ok, pidor

joined nato for example even though historically you are passive.

Supporting our enemies for example.

There are countless wars like that started by your block. This war could be avoided. We tried to negotiate for 8 years and yet your countries pushed for it.

The fact that we invaded does not mean anything.

NATO Is a defensive pact, if you were a nation of actual people and not useless subhuman animals you would let them join NATO with a shrug of your shoulders because it doesn't effect your country in any measurable way. The truth is that your shithole country needs to steal to survive.
Stay and die in your shithole, there won't be any real problems.

this one for example en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Heusinger

I do not remember this shit by heart.

Yes, and like I stated NATO doesn't give a shit about you. Every powerhouse is busy with China. The only thing that is between you and irrelevant are nukes.

it is just a battlefield we are not trying to take it. We are trying to destroy western weapons at a rate that they are not capable to produce it practically dissarming them.

And we succeed at that.
The reason why Israel was attacked by Palestine is because Israel weapon supply was at all times low. It all went to Ukraine.

all those articles about Russia running out of anything was projection

it is not true you are interested in us because you can not afford to fight china. You need our resources. And you need to make sure we are not allied.

Suppose, Putin takes over this fucking Ukraine. What's next?
1) Russia will hit by demographic crisis in following 20 years. Russian cross problem was never solved. Russia is Europe's leader in HIV and drug addictions. This war worsened brain drain and created hundreds (ok, tens) of thousands invalids
2) The only people immigrating to russia are fucking low-qualified tajiks and uzbeks. Qualified Indians, Chinese and Arabs go to western countries

What will happen to economy? Russia has nothing to fill sonn-to-be emptied jobs. How monkey will solve it?

Btw, я pyccкий. И я yeхaл из Poccии нe из-зa вoйны, a пoтoмy чтo мнe тaм дeлaть нeчeгo кaк ceньop pecepчepy. Иннoвaции в poccии -- этo... пpocтo дepeвня

I really hope our relations with the US will not be damaged in the long term. People are not too happy with his stances here, but our general attitude for Americans has and always will remain positive.

that never fought a defensive wars only offensive onse.

Just because you lie does not make everyone believing you. Nobody has a ministry of offense but everybody has a ministry of defense.

it does because this war is about nato moving east. And it started in 2007.
It is the other way around. Your whole western civilisation is built around stealing and exploiting others. Slavery and colonization are your inventions.

This war is only the begging. It is very naive of you to think that it will end after urkaine.

The next ones you will feel with your own skin nigger.

qrd on the situation between the united states and russia? i thought we were allies.

no, the west is disappointed how useless Russia is when russians are in charge of power. 30 years later, they became more racist and xenophobic instead of leaning towards a more open world. Now your technology is in african tier and you millitary is way worse than we thought. How can you keep an excuse like you are shit because west doesn't gift? More sum free gibs? You are a subhuman.

NATO Is a defensive pact

NATO has never fought in a defensive war.
The only time NATO’s framework has been used was the US and the UK to call other NATO countries into offensive wars.
Fuck your kike alliance.

again I said multiple times just like Putin before me.

IT IS NOT ABOUT UKRAINE AND IT WAS NEVER A GOAL TO TAKE IT OVER.

those are your copes. Just like the ones that we will run out of something lol.

aхaхa нy и хopoшo чтo yeхaл. Haм тaкиe пидopы кaк ты нe нyжны.
Tы никoгдa нe был и нe бyдeшь pyccким. Tы чacть зaпaднoгo миpa. Bлюблeнный в нeгo и пopaбoщeнный им.

Haha no you did the opposite retard. The Eu did not produce any weapons. When the war broke out we send all the (old) shit we had to Ukraine. All you did is firing up the arms production across the whole of Europe. You literally made us from harmless to armed to the teeth.

how do you feel about doctor zelensky
you would not trust him around your organs

whatever this is your impressions based on your pride. If you will have a point I will try to reply to it.

doctor zelensky is like this circus bear that begs all the nations for money they get defrauded consistently

Russians in moscow think they are superior than those peasants because they are muh more rusniggers. They made a mistake what Tsar did against the japs by thinking they are superior, instead japs btfo'd them like carzy. Russians should be kicked off from the power totally on that land. It should be at least german or anglos to rule that land.

China needs Europe more than Russia. We (have way more to) spend than you guys. And please tell me one resource we need from you?

your weapon production is all talks and no action.
We did exactly what we wanted. Burned down your weapon supply.
Even if by some miracle you start producing weapons again it will take decades to simply get back to where it was before the war.

We are denazifying and disarming entire west

it does not. And we produce way more than just alloys. Their entire millitary based on ours.

Also they need us as protectors. They are terrible at wars.

my point is you will cripple as hard as possible in this war, which will lead to another disintergration of Russia. China can keep you alive but def not make you strong. You are on a dead trap. Putin is killing millions of russians right now and yet you are begging for us to show mercy?

Nope, I don't "love" western world, I don't care in fact. It is global labor market, that I care for. With working experience in, say, Netherlands, I will be applicable for a job in Singapore.
With working experience in Russia, I will be applicable for a job in Russia. There are exceptions, but generally large western corpos don't care that much about experience in Russian company, because Russia is a fucking backwater in tech

we never in our history disintegrated as a result of a war. Only as a result of peace.

It is kinda pointless to argue with you because you just have a feeling not facts or points.

And in fact I do respect patriotic notions. Even if they are misplaced like they are in your case.

all talks and no action

We are producing more than you ande we are not even in a war economy.

denazifying and disarming entire west

Lol oke propaganda boy

western world = western capital.

it is not about countries or borders. it is one entity stupid nigger. please don't (you) at me I do not have time for traitors.

China needs Russia as a protector? In what bubble are you living.

no you do not. It is a cope numbers that has nothing to do with reality.

most importantly it does not say what exactly you produce. And if you produce somethin. It is just some rank about "millitary capability" and all export goes to ukraine lmao.

you will. You could've won because of our weapons in the past. Without the west, Russia won't even exist. Now let's see how that goes since your nation is disintergrating from the world.

We are forced to erase ukraine

Not if America can help it, all Trump has to do is gift Ukraine some Apaches, Ac-130s and F117 nighthawks
Russia would be pleading in weeks

do you know anything about history of china?

I am always surprised by the level of ignorance of nafo people

our only enemy in 1000 years was the west stupid troon.

it can't help it that is the kicker. :D
yes please send more woundervaffe that is the entire purpose of this conflict.

Russia had to learn its place and now it has. They're no threat to Europe so NATO should be disbanded and Russia should join the West.

your millitary tech is stuck in the 90s. It's the west doesn't want to die for muh Ukriane that makes us weak. But when you dares to move an inch towards EU or Nato, you know how fucked you are gonna be.

You know we just give them our old shit right? F16's, howitzers. They have all been replaced with newer tech.

Yes I know alot about China's history. But China is at a point it has never been in history, so the past doesn't matter. Compared to China, Russia is just a little fly. You need them alot more than they need you and claiming otherwise is just borderline lunatic

no it was not like that. and it was not about lessons either.
It is about your capital. The reason Soviets became your enemy all over sudden was the fact that it was a competitive market closed to your capital.

You and your country is not in charge of it you will be forced to fight us one way or another.

We actually thought the way you are thinking now back in 2000s. We even asked to join nato. Nato refused us joining and by that providing proof that it is plotting against us.

you millitary stuck in 70s check when your tanks or anything was designed.

Countries join NATO because they know russians are subhuman pigs. They don't join because anyone wants to invade russia, there is nothing in russia anyone wants, least of all it's people.

the point is China can stand with the West and destroy Russia. We don't need Russia. It's a threat to the West indeed. What's the point of keeping Russia when the west needs to expand its value and democracy to the world? You are a threat to us.

the new shit that you will give them at some point takes years to produce.

no you do not nigger and you should learn it if you want to discuss it with me.

what do you even do on /pol if you do not care about politics at that level.

in any case I hope I could entertain you a bit.

Anyone thinking Russia isn't a threat is low IQ. Putin is trying to disintergrate the west from within. We don't need Russia in the world. They are a foundamental threat to us.

Lol he's threatening Russia with the same sanctions that are already in place. That's the best he can do after Putin spits in your face? He's a pussy that's coming to the realization that he has zero influence over Russia.

they join it because their government is being taken over by western powers.

You take over politicians and replace them with your people and then you rule the country.

Putin lost, Russia lost, Ukraine lost, NATO lost, USA lost, Trump lost ICELAND WON

Cope numbers

They have been training around the world for some time now.
How do I know? Me and the Netherlands? oh we go way back

I don't want to discuss China with you retard. You are the one that brought it ip faggot. And if you really think chinks need you instead of the other way there is something wrong in your head.

because you are playing dumb. We already knew how you are gonna be in the future. A nationalist Russian empire that expands its territory towards eastern europe. That's why you are a foundamental threat to us. You have to be destroyed totally.

is he just now realizing this

ukraine wants world war
eu wants world war

the only sane person is putin and maybe trump.

you are incapable of doing it.
You started talking why they need us. I hinted that they need us because of the lessons they learned from their rich history.

You practically shown that you do not know what I am talking about and I said that I am not going to give you China history 101 in this thread

I do suggest you to familiarize yourself with it.
You will learn why they hate the west and dream of destroying it.

/uhg/ told me the war was crippling russia and they were using their manchurian candidate trump to bail them out o algo

was /chug/ right this whole time?

Putin is trying to disintergrate the west from within

maybe
but we`re doing that to ourselves anyways so he could just take the "do nothing: win" approach instead

World War is good, to make them pay

Russians Blood for the Blood God.
Russians Skulls for the Skull Throne

technically you are doing it because of his actions and processes that he started.

nah, you are projecting. China doesn't hate the west. We don't invade China a shit. It's Russia which invaded Russia since 200 years ago. Now they will realize the West is way better and decided to join us in the end.

every accusation from you animals is a confession. You say these things because it was what you did with the USSR. Know what we don't do and didn't do? Subjugate other countries. The pacts are made on mutual benefit.
The only reason putin wants to invade places is to steal because it's all russians are truly capable of doing. Any good the USSR accomplished was done by the other countries in the USSR not by you subhumans.

It should be at least german or anglos to rule that land.

You tried and got btfo'd

We are forced to erase ukraine.

dangerously based

They might hate us but they won't destroy us. Where does their whealth come from? Who made 60% of their citizens middle-class? What cars do they want to drive? Yup, Western(ers)

USSR is another entity entirely.
it has nothing to do with modern Russia.

Also you did that in cold war times too.

Cynics and pragmaticists are always right. NAFO are idiots and zigger in this thread is an idiot. Ziggers, hohols, libtards and unironic magabros will lose

Know what we don't do and didn't do? Subjugate other countries. The pacts are made on mutual benefit.

Hi, newfag. Stick around

jokes on you, nuland and blinken want THD too

they will turn you into africa. That is their plan.
80% of world's population is outside the west.
And sooner rather than later it will produce capital and outperform your markets. It already getting close to doing it.

To some degree China was angry with us for ukranian conflict because it complicates that little plan of theirs.

China wants to turn you into Africa

What retards itt

it does and not because of the past but because of the future.

You pose a clear threat to it.

China can stand with the West and destroy Russia

retardbro... what are you reading or watching that is leading to this conclusion

Who's dumber, MIGAtards or Trump himself?

I thought he is just a tourist from /b or something and wanted in on this little action.

I love this bait threads. Nobody bights my dick harder than nafo.

At that time Russia was perceived as a threat to Europe, if not still to the US. Now theyve proved to be incapable of overtaking a nearly third world speck, they will never be our equal. Now that everyone realizes this, Russia should be accepted as a vassal to the US like every other Western nation.

democrats who said trump would end the war on russia's behalf geg

Well I'm glad it's not Pissrael
So how is China gonna do it, by doing nothing and letting Jews do it ?
That art of Xi is infallible

Trump isn't dumb he's just not willing to throw good money after bad. Ukraine is unwinnable.
He has a few other wars to fight and there's not enough to go around to fight China and Russia while also fighting wars for Israel at the same time.

but it never was our goal to take it over. I keep repeating it in this thread over and over and over.

I do not care what you people are telling to yourself. Soon you will be defenseless and vulnerable.
You will try to make peace with us but we will want war and you will have nothing to fight with.

Than we will end you.

by messing up your little globalization project.
and making sure developing markets do not interact with you

i think neither are dumber than rusniggers on average. Rusniggers are literally daydreaming from the reality. They still think they are more powerful than China lol. I'd love to see one day China steamroll to siberia and kill all rusniggers.

how the US is becoming more vulnerable? You are thinking muh orange nigga can destroy our allies around the world? You have zero allies instead. Average salary of an American is 10 times more than yours. Keep daydreaming, rusniggers. You are pathetic.

no argument so resorts to seething

It's not my fault you can't read a simple graph, maybe it's the result of FAS which is one of the many substance abuse maladies commonplace in the RF.

over the bump limit already. Shame I had fun.

thank you frens. I missed it.

no we have tried a peacefull solution

We PEACEFULLY invaded our neighbors

Crying out in pain as you strike, predictable.

thanks for sharing rusfren

we'll all make it out of this circus side show soon

still they are more of a threat to us in terms of geopolitics. Look how they supported evil iran and north korea. They are incapable of having a conflict directly with us but they surely are sneaky bastards doing some damages behind. They are never a friend of us. They are eyeing for eastern europe and georgia. We shouldn't overlook them at all like dumb MAGAs.

geopolitical threat to america

georgia and eastern europe

lolwut

developing markets do not interact with you

That's their right and not subversion but Europe is 700M people that have more purchasing power than billions of others so it would be foolish and they won't do it

Sure (armored likely the USSR couldn't) but communism was the big scare for boomers in the US. You can't even crush a podunk third world country on your doorstep. What chance would you have against the US? It would be like the US invading Quebec and getting repelled.

Their economy is getting severely taxed by this war, I'm telling you.