Why?

There's niggers there, retard.
buhbye slider.

Most of that circled area isn't anywhere even remotely close to the arctic circle. Even most of Alaska isn't in the Arctic Circle.

Btw, Alaska has more than 10x the population of Canada's northern provinces / territories.

having to fly food in because your country can't into roads and freight trains

SAD!

Because it's very, very, very fucking cold up there.

thats just the actual ice part. Its surrounded by hundreds of miles of frozen rock hard tundra

cos they gave all that land to their eskimo innuit niggers

There is a secret Nazi Germany colony there.

Yeah but Alaskas population works a lot like Canadas. Interior Alaska is practically empty, everyone stays on the coast. The most coveted part of Alaska doesn't even have that cold of a climate because of the Tongass rainforest, it doesn't get very far below freezing in SE Alaska it just hovers around it. Ask Alaskas why they don't want to live in Fairbanks.

No it isn't. Look at Ontario, much of it is south of Maine but besides Toronto it's almost completely empty.

because fuck you thats why we are coming to take our country back from trudeau cucks, you fuckers ruined a good plot of land

Most of the circled area is actually subarctic, which is also mostly inhospitable.

only russians can survive in those areas

The exact same reason China, Russia and Australia have large uninhabited areas, the soil doesn't hold agriculture and its ether to hot, to cold, or to mountainous to live.

My dad's from Ontario, Canadians don't like to go north of those edges you see. My uncle lives in Northern Ontario, it's cold as shit up there and very wooded. The further north you go in Canada the less White it gets by the way. There's entire towns of just injuns up there. Same for Alaska.

it is fucking frozen wasteland, Einstensky

Its not actually the cold but the rocky ground and forests that keep settlement from that area. You'd have to do a lot of dynamiting to make it work and that is not financially possible. There's plenty of land in the populated areas for housing still btw Canada has no need to even think of building in the Canadian shield and rocky mountains

Alaskans*

Not only that, in the very north the land is completely broken up by thousands of lakes, much like northern Manitoba and Quebec

Everything inside the red circle is gay

The Fairbanks metro area, smack in the middle of Alaska, has 95 thousand people.

The ENTIRE Yukon territory has 40 thousand people.
The ENTIRE Northwest Territory has 41 thousand peoplee
The ENTIRE Nunavut (??) Territory has 36 thousand people.

Face the facts, Alaskans are better at living in the cold than Canadians.

why would they build a big city in the middle of nowhere alaska interior and why do so many live there? Is it all military personell with no choice?

Like Michigan. That means millions of mosquitos. Fucking bastards.
Yeah but we're a more populated country, and Fairbanks people usually grow up in Fairbanks or they move there for whatever reason. Outside of Fairbanks you have logging towns and injun communities. It's fucking depressing to live that far north too, it's dark and miserable. Everyone is depressed or going crazy from staying inside so long, fuck that. I'm glad I live in the Sunbelt now, people are a lot happier and there's more to do in general. We need the sun for our minds, not just our bodies.

Most of that circled area isn't anywhere even remotely close to the arctic circle. Even most of Alaska isn't in the Arctic Circle.

If it isn't outright Arctic, its still sub-Arctic and Arctic-Adjacent so the point still holds true no matter how pedantic you want to be about it. The only really habitable parts of Canada are the parts where people already live anyway. The only way to get people living further north is at great expense where stuff have to be shipped in because nothing can be grown locally.

kek

Mostly it's because of oil, but also it's because it gets cold there and a lot of people like that. -40 is very nice weather, makes you feel alive.

The only way to get people living further north is at great expense

Food gets shipped into Fairbanks by truck. It's not such a complicated thing.

The terrain comes in two flavours:

almost bare rock

frozen swamp

In fact, much of that area is above the treeline, meaning there's no fucking trees to use for construction.
The almost bare rock area is mostly swamp, too. At least, for the 3 months a year that some fucking grass and moss can bother growing (at a slow rate because it's still cold. The fact that nothing grows, and it's fucking cold, means there's no biodegradation, which means no soil for more shit to grow. No soil means all the infrastructure that's usually underground has to be above ground and involve big tanks and pumps to move it around.
In the frozen swamp full of trees, roads would require whole mountains leveled to make a foundation for the road. The road and its foundation would still get fucked by the spring thaw every year.
A good half of that area is so full of blackflies and mosquitoes that the majority of humans would just go insane and claw their own faces off. (Yes,this actually happens.)

I've family living up there, fuck off they're full.

much of it is south

Latitude doesn't correlate well with climate. Western Europe is on pretty much the same latitude as Alaska, but its temperatures are nowhere near as cold as Alaska, because of the Atlantic Conveyor. Likewise, the Atlantic parts of Canada also benefit from that Conveyor and that's why they're as tolerable to live in as they are. But further inland and north is another matter entirely.

What are you going to do up there? farm ice?

So, that's what, 200-250km drive from the P O R T of Anchorage? Real big accomplishment.

That means millions of mosquitos

Yep, and even the most northern parts of Ontario you start getting polar bears. I wouldn't want to live around them

Have you ever flown over it? You'd might as well live on mars. Pretty sure some of those areas are literally used as fake mars footage for that matter.

Here's a historic house in Fairbanks. Note the air conditioner.

waaaaa it's too cold to live in Canada

lmao

Browns won't go there, won't traiblaze or pioneer there

They will follow there after whites go

Translation is basically, why won't whites go to XYZ place and do all the hard work of setting up civilization for me first?

I feel bad if there's places where there's no whites, just the indigenous, but Pajeets still move in.

Polar bears rolling around in fields of wildflowers in northern Ontario is trippy to see.

you wanna go live in permafrost and on top exposed bedrock be my guest
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Shield

Food gets shipped into Fairbanks by truck. It's not such a complicated thing.

I didn't say it was complicated, I said it was expensive. And Fairbanks population isn't that large by city standards (even though it certainly is large by Arctic standards. You certainly could have a NYC sized city in the arctic, but the costs to sustain that would be off the charts. Yes, its not complicated because trucks on the road go "VRROOOOM". Everyone understands that. But paying the fuel costs/wages for all the trucks it would be necessary for this "not complicated" process isn't cheap. Its a matter of scale.

That's where Canadians produce narcotics, then ship them to usa

Also, 400 km from Anchorage

What are we gonna build a bunch of roads for chugs for? Just get them addicted to your food and way of life and charge them out the ass for it, that the (((white))) man’s way

Its actually beautiful

I mean Russia built houses in way colder areas. Why can't Canacucks?

400 km from easy shipping ports in Lake Superior would cover most of Ontario, but Ontario is almost completely deserted besides Toronto.

I know you Canadians have oil, like Alaska does. That's easy money.

in Europe the forrested Temperate livable parts goes far north of the arctic circle. google maps northern norway

Can't they just live of mining minerals like Russians do?

Also roads here in Alberta absolutely buckle from the 50 degree temperature swings sometimes within a matter of days. Asphalt in the arctic would probably get fucked quickly.

Too stupid most likely when even slavs figured it out

Literally paradise for white people.

it would be until black flies and mosquitos drank all your blood and killed you

Me either. That's one of the only species on Earth that actively hunts and eats humans.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barentsburg

surrounded by ocean and mountainous geologic features creating a micro climate.

If only global warming were real then the ice could melt and it would all be free real estate.

Not even that cold duh

yes cold rocky swampy bogs perfect for clean living

Wendigos and big foot

Norwegian town

population is almost entirely Russians and Ukranians

explain yourselves, wegians.

lmao the entire europe is above that line

checked. Unfortunately there has never been a single leaf in history that degraded on that rock and so no viable soil anywhere

If you guys don't want it, then give it to America.

Apparently not. I remember when I was a kid I’d see guys a couple years older than me drop out of high school, go work the rigs up there and boog out of society in a couple years. The old timers in my trade told me they’d go do one 2 week rotation and could come back and buy a brand new car.

Now all those huge American companies and investments got scared away rightfully so by energy caps and fucking around pipelines. It’s an absolute embarrassment

Because no one else in this thread has given even a half accurate answer beyond "muh shivers" For Quebec and Ontario it's down to the Canadian shield. It's barren rock, you can't grow anything or build anything (without great expense) there so there was never a reason for a settlement to establish itself there and grow. In the Prairies, it's down to ariable land, the areas that have the most inhabitants are where you can grow shit and isn't permafrost. Edmonton is the exception by virtue of the resource economy that it acts as the hub for. Then in BC the Rockies and Purcell mountain ranges make the actual inhabitable land far less than a map would suggest to you. Kelowna exists in a bowl with mountains on all fronts except south along the valley where even then it's not great. Vancouver would probably be larger if the border was 1 degree of latitude further south, but as is it's locked in by mountains to the north and east, ocean to the west, and lunatics to the south

Also roads here in Alberta absolutely buckle from the 50 degree temperature swings sometimes within a matter of days. Asphalt in the arctic would probably get fucked quickly.

Yeah same problem here in the outback, albeit because it goes from -10 to +50, hot mix asphalt with a decent sealcoat helps, but ultimately your asphalt roads are still going to expand and contract a lot, split, water will seep in and then the whole thing goes to shit real quick.

We just end up running trucks on hard packed dirt roads that we have graders working 24/7.

But really reject truck, return to beaver.

Russians survive by bulding commieblocks with tightly planned central heating networks which is a big psychological no no for liberal democracies. Solely psychologial - as I understand it, gas price isn't a problem for Canada.

torpedoing your economy because hippies cried and made a stink

many such cases, sadly.

you already got Gaza and whatever else your master wants to give you

I love those old de Havilland planes so much

Gaza is for brownoids. White people need Hyperborean climate.

Same issues as Siberia - unbearably cold during the winters, massive hordes of mosquitoes during the summers, and permafrost making construction extremely difficult.

They non-white so cold climate is scary to them. The entire canadian pacific coast is inhabitable, they're just too lazy to build anything there.

Yes, it's most certainly the fault of the "energy caps" and not the fact that the American's have constantly done everything they can to destablize Canadian resource industry. Keystone XL yes, no, yes, no, tariffs, yes, no, yes, no. The only two fucking pipelines we've built are from Alberta to BC to sell shit to Asia because the US has fucked us around so badly on the international projects. (Energy East was a French problem, fuck the frogs)

burger education

It was a soviet island. Norway took it once the union fell.

son, you must leave the vault, we need a new heating chip. here is a map to next commie block

How many of those mosquitos feed on humans?

If you follow the Hyperborean trail long enough you'll end up with Agartha, and it's not cold in Agartha according to all sources on it, it's hot.

Its all frozen tundra with no life. Not even plants

So what? Why do you need plant life to build houses? Nobody asked why they can't build treehouses. You can truck in building materials. Look at Arizona.

If that’s the case, why are Sweden, Finland and Norway even habitable?

Use repellent

That's true and the clouds of them can become thick enough to asphyxiate moose. But it's only during the "warm" months, of which there are only a couple. The whole place is basically a giant marsh in the summer.

This is the land which Canadians are asking us to believe is uninhabitable: LOTS of trees and very pretty rocks. You can build good houses out of both of these.

ITT retards don't understand permafrost

DDT

muh eagles

Hippy nonsense.

permafrost = permakino

brown skins cant handle too cold and low UV regions, justinder and the jews force indian government to not ban out of india immigration so that they can fill your white towns with brown skins so yall become a minority and they can push whatever laws they wish, most people in your country are bluepilled by liberalism and will not fight back cuz muh racism, why would they make cities where indians cant live

I love those old de Havilland planes so much

They were quite literally the backbone of where I grew up, everything came in via beavers, otters or twin otters. Lots of remote places in Aus owe their existence to canadian aeronautical excellence.

Russians live on permafrost?

I wouldn't be racist against Indians if they stayed in India and didn't shit up Poland. Just saying.

That is a Mercator PROJECTION you clown!

Here is how the world really looks like!

Educate yourself!
youtube.com/watch?v=2lR7s1Y6Zig

Pole arguing Russian shacks are what Canadians should strive for

Maybe we should've left you to the Germans

Germany did this.

hating on Mercator

Look nigga.

youtu.be/iXOSYPnPneY

Wow, I'm impressed, this is levels of retardation I didn't expect even Anon Babble to pull off. You fucking mongoloid, you can't build a city like that. And beyond that, cities are rather set in place these days (unless your a gook and can just forcibly relocate 10 trillion slants to wherever you want) so when cities were being established in 17 whatever the fuck, does your 47 chromosome ass really think this was in the cards?

we should've left you to the Germans

Would be much better than that you actually did

Hello potion seller, I am going into battle and I need your strongest potions.

Wow, a shithole with nothing of value! Why wouldn't I move there! Oh right, because I'm not a retarded poletard. I hope Russian soldiers rape you family before shooting you and tossing you in the mass grave you belong fucking jew scum.

your car will never be this comfy

why live

you can't build a city like that.

Not with that attitude.

population of 355,443 in 2021 and growing

So.
We have cities in shithole deserts that regularly reach 120 degrees.

very nice

367,667 Population in 2024

The entire city is built on permafrost so people in this thread are retarded.

tfw your wife forgot to refill the gastank before leaving the car to idle so it died overnight and now you have to call out your friend to use his diesel heater for the next 12 hours to thaw your engine oil out so you can start it up again

a shithole with nothing of value!

Some of the largest diamond reserves in the world are located there

hating on Mercator

Yes if the argument is looking at a space to live!

Arguably the correct map is the top and bottom parts of the globe photographed.
OR A FUCKEN GLOBE! BECAUSE THIS IS THE FUTURE AND EVERYONE HAS A SUPER COMPUTER CAPABLE OF RENDERING A 3D GLOBE IN THEIR PANTS!

It's desolate, cold. Nasa even fakes Mars up there.

It does not stop Russians. Why are you so weak?

Why?

Sounds comfy

It's just empty frozen wilderness, other than a few chugs and some miners, no one lives there.

Americans know about Yakustk because it's that province on the Risk board that nobody wants because you're vulnerable on all sides unless you somehow manage to conquer all of Asia

I spend 9 months in the winter here no prob. Others, not so much.

Just reset your IP to get around that

Most of the land in the red circle is frozen wasteland which is uninhabitable.

This.
Even within the habitable parts of Canada and Australia there is lots of undeveloped land. So the too cold/hot argument is irrelevant.
The reality is that the modern lifestyle requires massive amounts of infrastructure. People expect to have electricity, sewerage, drinkable running water, cell phone reception and wired broadband internet, and roads for not only their personal car but for trucks to being all kinds of consumable products to them.
You may get a handful of people here and there that are willing to live a more rugged lifestyle, but good fucking luck getting enough of them together and organised to go out and found a new settlement large enough to then attract outside investment into infrastructure.
And the government sure as hell isn't interested in making that infrastructure investment either. In fact here in Aus the government has explicitly stated that they want to solve housing supply by increasing density rather than expanding metro areas because it is cheaper for them to have a multistory apartment complex built on an existing road above existing water and sewerage pipes that can hook up to existing energy and telecommunications infrastructure then it is to build out to new areas.
It is quite possible that we will never see a new town or city anywhere in the Western world ever again unless there is some kind of apocalyptic scenario or I guess a revolutionary vision by some government to build a new planned city by forcing the relocation of government services to said new settlement.
We will just get squeezed into smaller and smaller apartments that are more and more expensive in denser and denser cities despite the abundance of empty land the exists just an hours drive away.

gulfstream

Density sucks on an individual level but it's good for the environment and more sustainable in the long run.

Chiba called dibs

Looks a bit depressing.

An American commenting on lacking transport infrastructure

Hah, ironic.

America has no shortage of roads and freight trains.

Fairbanks gets weather from the Pacific..

Because that is District 13.

Black flies. Little black flies. Always a black fly no matter where you go.

I'll die with the black flies picking my bones in North Ontar-IO-IO in North Ontar-IO.

Skinwalkers

So what is even the purpose of society if we just accept that quality of life is going to continue to decrease from this point on? Perhaps the solution isn't density but a decoupling from the notion that population growth is a requirement for economic and geopolitical sustainability?
We already know that economic prosperity leads to a lower birthrate, so its not like we need to implement some kind of eugenics programme or impose limits on reproduction. In fact at our current level of economic prosperity and density our population would be decreasing if not for our policy of mass migration. Human psychology is already pushing against the status quo. Nature is trying to slow down the growth and decrease the density. But economic incentives are overriding this force, instead pushing us to cram more and more people into cities, reducing quality of life and increasing cost and disincentivizing child birth even more.
Pushing for more density at this point is just dumb. We should be aiming for an equilibrium where economic prosperity and quality of life (including cost of living and density) allow for a sustainable birthrate. We have already pushed to far in one direction, and our below replacement birth rate should be allowed to play out and actually lead to a drop in population, a drop in economic prosperity and an increase in quality of life through reduced cost of living and density until a positive force on birthrate is achieved that brings us back into sustainable population growth.
A vision of the future where we just keep growing anf growing in denser and denser cities for the sake of maximum economic growth within minimum environmental impact is a dystopian vision that can only be achieved with macro level government policy such as mass migration that fights are natural urge to resist such a future.

Wrong, Fairbanks gets Polar Easterlies.

Contrast with Whitehorse, which is made temperate by wind from the Pacific, far warmer than Fairbanks, but is evidently still too cold for Canadians because it has a population of only 31 thousand. Compare the climate data between the two on wikipedia (bearing in mind that one is listed in C by default and the other F) and you will see that Whitehorse is much warmer. Whitehorse is the largest city there is in northern Canada so this is the most fair comparison there can be.

I agree with you but when it comes to density in particular, sprawling suburbs just aren't an environmentally sound or sustainable way to develop.

Canada is a parasite that feeds on America

Canada is gay as hell and deserves what's coming but nah, we aren't even in the top 20 list of parasites feeding on America; start within your own borders lol.

I've been to the arctic circle, and any green you see on the ground from the air turns out to be the weird seaweed type shit that covers the surface, and it doesn't seem to take root anywhere. Also, the air is dry (even though I was near the arctic ocean it's so fucking cold it's desert-like and arid). Plus the air is thick with bugs. Bugs like you never saw before. Big black clouds of mosquitoes and other shit that swarm you the moment you step outside.

cums in man-panties over colonizing mars

won't touch desolate areas of earth within reach of civilization

it's (almost) unbelievable how full of shit and uselss you people are

Big black clouds of mosquitoes and other shit that swarm you the moment you step outside.

This cannot be understated. It sounds like a whatever minor inconvenience but it's actually insane h ow many bugs there are up here. There are some forests I don't even enter during the summer because the bugs are so intense.

Sprawling suburbs suck due to the same economic pressures that are also increasing density. We are getting smaller blocks of land with larger homes meaning smaller backyards with no room for vegetation. Land value is disincentivizing the proper allocation and spacing of communal green areas like nature reserves and parks. And because sprawling suburbs are again just another answer to unsustainable population growth, they are simply housing more people that need to travel into existing zones of economic activity, leading to longer travel times by car to and from work and increased traffic.
Whether or not density is preferable to more sprawling suburbs is debatable. The push for density in major metro areas of Australia has lead to a situation where the average dual income family can not afford a three bedroom dwelling, house or apartment, restricting their ability to have a second child. This is a fundemental violation of the individual pursuit of happiness and fulfilment that is of far more consequence than the environmental concerns of sprawling suburbs, at least in my opinion.
But regardless the root cause of both issues is still migration driven population growth in the pursuit of economic growth and geopolitical competitiveness.

A lot of countries have weird population clusters. It's actually really interesting and the answer is always geography.

Always?

youtu.be/UdJpK5jY_jA

The government has refused to build any kind of infrastructure up there, they refuse to build and maintain roads and bridges and utility lines that could make life a lot more convenient and prompt people to start relocating. If the state doesn't go up there and at least provide physical access to the land, I don't know what you expect, nobody is going to move there.

the answer is always geography.

it has always been the resources, even more so with the advance of the industrial revolution.