Why don't men understand that being fit looks gay to women?

What women say and what they believe are 2 different things.

What the fuck does it change to anything ?
By the time you're taking off your shirt in front of a woman, she has already decided if she liked you or not, this is just behavioural sink shit that doesn't matter.
I have bitches who wanna take a flight to France right now to fuck me and I deny them and they have never seen me naked.

women are just dumb they see a bigger guy on the left and assume he is stronger/a better protector, irl they'd swoon for right

The guy on the right makes them feel fat. Women stand next to uglier people than themselves a prop. If her man is more attractive than she is then all the power is in his court.

He looks way better left.
He looks emaciated on the right - and objectively is - it's not healthy to have such low body fat level and likely also extremely dehydrated.

womens opinions

He's already in shape in the first image and the lighting is way better. Even i'd say the first looks better.

That said you also have the element of the voters being fat online women wanting a celebrity to be more attainable to them.

men on twitter enjoy admiring sculpted male bodies

Projection. Men are faggots who idealize DBZ characters and action figures and salivate over other men at the gym making "gains". Women just want you to look young and normal you dumb fuck.

bodybuilding is for attracting men, not for attracting women
if you're hetero you're better off with a normal build

It's because women are rarely ever actually in shape. They're extremely skilled at looking like they're in shape, as long as they aren't total porkers, with flattering colors, clothing and distracting accessories. But they want the sex in the dark because they're not happy with how they look. The prospect of having an extremely fit man makes them uncomfortable. They want a guy that they're fitter than. It's less a reflection on Mr. Receding Hairline and more a reflection on their own sense of inadequacy and desire to feel physically superior. That is my hypothesis.

caring what femoids think

ngmi

Gymcel cope.

women are insecure

lots of words for it but yea

Imagine caring what a woman thinks.

Left can survive the winter with a baggie of table salt and potassium chloride.
Right needs to eat incessantly or he dies in a week.

I'm a fat incel on Anon Babble, anon. Just like you. I do not go to the gym.

Wrong. You are applying male standards to the female gaze.

Yeah it has nothing to do with his face looking like absolute shit in the after pic.

Holy shit Anon Babbleniggers it's time for us to kill ourselves (thank God)

Wannabe gymcel Cope, also crab in the bucket mentality. So even more pathetic.

competing with girls is totally malebrained guys

OK, big guy. Don't let me distract you from being a faggot. Continue replying to every post.

First summer after achieving a proper beachbody I received more compliments and female attention than for the entirety of my life as a skinnyfat couch potato so I'm not going to trust some internet poll coping dyels.

This God denied the Holocaust and lifted 271kg for 6 reps.

Perfection

implying modern western vagina havers are girls

I look at this picture and see a mentally ill affront to nature. Guy probably can't even wipe his own ass and has the face of an anorexic. Not even hating, it's just sad to see.

Turdwife is right, there's no gym for your face, height and hairline. He looks looks shorter and balder on the right (even though it's just the angle and lighting) and losing weight and beard made his face look older and overall worse.

more internet prison gay fear of a wet hole writ large

beats me. I've been trying to tell them for 15 years at this point that shredding down to sub double digit fat percentages is worthless unless you already have a stellar facial bone structure and even then your bf% isn't the aspect that's pulling all the weight. It's the same as the dipshits who buy sports cars and hyperbikes then wonder why the only people who want to chat them up are gangly nerds who themselves have hyperbikes and don't understand why women never want to talk to them. Most men can't be helped.

I'll do what I want, nigger. Keep making dumb posts.

The ideal male bodytype according to most women is pic related, it is pretty much scientifically proven.

Change that pussy

Women want to be alongside ugly women but good looking men. Both elevate their social standing which is literally 99.9% of what women are focused on.

The first massively annoyed me in my failed marriage. My wife kept getting fatter and fatter and instead of every improving herself just went to wild lengths to never be near better looking girls. Out at a bar where there were younger girls? It's shit and we have to leave. On holiday and talking to some in shape people? They're unlikeable, let's spend our time with the fat people.

By the end I would regularly just instigate it for the predictable laugh.

Women are right - the Greek statue gigachad shit comes from homosexual jews on Twitter in the BAPsphere. Women want a normal looking guy. I don't even know why this is controversial since every gymfag tells you they life for their bros and not for women. The whole culture reeks of gayness. BTW Goldsgym was founded by a kike go figure

beyond the haggardness, all the cutting in the second one makes his head look huge and torso look small. a man with a smaller head and big frame would not suffer this issue as much
proportions are also part of attraction

Everytime you lift, a woman's vagina becomes drier.

kek

Well, they are known as gymfags for a reason. They do look gay, act gay, eat gay and think gay. A normal man works at a job that engages his body naturally. He eats meat and potatoes, not powdered protein. They are like the metrosexuals with an added step of faggotry. Of course women think it’s unattractive.

fit = gay

Correct, thread should have ended here.

They don't understand that being a gymrat, while not having also a toptiermodel face reeks insecurity.

You are putting disproportional effort into having a body looking like something that does not fit your whole "vibe". This is why he looked better in the first one. It fits more his whole look. And he still looked pretty fit/ok in the before picture. But this "cut" look makes him even look goofy. His body now is too small for his huge forehead (in particular)

who idealize DBZ characters

nothing would make me happier than to look like

picrel

and to battle like gods at the edge of the world. Men idolize strength, honor, and courage and have since we were children. Fuck you.

Women[on average] care about height,weight,teeth and hairline.. don't be short,skinny,anglo and bald. They don't care about muscles ,I agree on that

It's also a hobby that she can't hover over unless she gets off her ass and does it too. She can't pretend to invade it, she actually has to stop playing with her headphones and sweat.

I'm gay and the before looks much better.
After looks like a massive faggot.

5'11

150lbs

look like a skinny twink in clothes

women don't even notice you

he looked much better in Troy

Judging a photo online is always entirely different from the impression you give in person. This makes a woman's opinion on anything she sees in a picture totally worthless. If you're 6ft tall with an okay face and you pull up your shirt to reveal defined abs every single woman alive gets instantly fucking soaked.

Women are not turned on by the insecurity of a guy showing off abs unprompted lmao.

most likely true. Or he went from early skinny zyzz to just a bit more volume.

Left looks like a man. Right looks like a weird cartoon character. Even his hair looks less healthy on the right pic.

There's a little bit of truth but also I think the average dad bod gets them wet similar to how a more voluptuous or thicker woman turns us on more then a stick. Definitely some oedipal shit going on especially when you realize so many see their dad as the most attractive
youtu.be/TQmUxU11kqQ?=NkF27oLZYMRbHm7w

Personally, I think he looks stronger in the before picture. I also think lowering his bodyfat gave his face a weird shape. He went from looking like a sort of rugged guy, to some freaky lean gremlin.

what don't women understand about the fact that a muscular man automatically garners respect and admiration from other men which implies social status which women are attracted to? Women are retarded.

Congrats and proving you're a social retard

Nobody is turned on or off by any buzzwords like "insecurity", "vibes", "game", "rizz" or any other astrology-tier horseshit

Wait a minute. Why does the retard assume women are lying when they have a different opinion on that matter while he's also likely a faggot that constantly goes around spouting how men and women are not equal?

Why would or should a woman think right is alos more attractive like the men think?

women lie because a fit man has more options which takes away female leverage in a dating scenario.

the question is if women understand what women want

Most women are losers so why would they want a partner who would make them feel insecure and jealous around other women.

Because many millennial faggots/metro sexual ruined what is genuine unfiltered masculinity. By MIMICKING what a masculine man aesthetics without actually being masculine in behavior. They grew beards, mustaches, wore lumber jackets, got tattoos and live weights to overcome petite frame but are still very much metro sexual faggots. Never even been a fist fight. Millennials women are just tired of the posers.

Most women are losers

For once it would be more appropriate to spell it "loosers"

genuine unfiltered masculinity

Is being 8 feet tall and similarly wide at the shoulders

alpha fux beta bux, as always.

Go watch Fight Club with your girlfriend and watch how she get's soaked within minutes.

Now go watch your globohomo bodybuilding shit and see how long it takes for her to say: "This is boring, let's go do something else."

true. there are a whole lot of fatties out there, these days. sad shit.

Men who are super muscular are seen as powerful and women who are super beautiful are seen as powerful.

This kind of extreme level of power is a bit intimidating and off putting for most folks.

For men though they like the powerful look, like their comic book heroes etc. For women they like the super model look, like their barbie dolls.

But when you grow up and put away those tropes of power, you begin to focus not on powerful figures but on loving figures. So women who are homely and caring, and men who are homely and caring. For example men who are tubby/some fat are seen as someone who is loving and caring, not scary and powerful.

I think everyone should just do what they feel is best for them :3

confidence is highly attractive. if you got it, show it off, or don’t, either option is fine, just be yourself

if you got shredded af then why not have fun, post a pic, or don’t, it’s not that serious. in my experience i was most successful on dating apps when i posted whatever i wanted and looked happy. that included photos of me being shredded af, unironically Brad Pitt in fight club or Troy + vascularity is all you need (and not be sub 6)

huge cope, you are 100% certified as not exhibiting genuine unfiltered masculine characteristics

t. Brownoid

Why don't women understand that nobody gives a fuck what they think? They have never had a serious thought in their lives.

Why don't men understand that being fit looks gay to women?

wrong.
being over-fit looks gay.
nobody likes obese people.
jewish psyop.
also
women dont like over-fit guys because they probably care more about their own health and fitness to cuck themselves to women or jewish will.
i must admit, over-fit men are not likely to be the ones curing cancer or stopping aging though.

Why do you sound so butthurt if you supposedly don't care?

Projection. Men are faggots who idealize DBZ characters and action figures and salivate over other men at the gym making "gains". Women just want you to look young and normal you dumb fuck.

jew demoralizer detected. simping for women's opinions. doesnt get much worse than that

He looks like he's 5'7

Women switch preferences as they age. I would like to see the poll based on age group.

i must admit, over-fit men are not likely to be the ones curing cancer or stopping aging though.

this is a retarded analysis, anon. Every single high achieving, ivy league graduate I've ever known is involved in physical fitness and exercise. Go to any wealthy areas full of smart people, everyone is fit. The distinction between "fit" and "over-fit" comes down to genetics a lot of the time. I've had friends tease me about going to the gym too often, only to find that they go way more often and are much more serious about their diet, I just have better genetics so its easier for me to build muscle and burn fat with less work. Of course, they act like bitches when you throw this obvious truth back in their faces. I just say "choose better parents next time."

Bingo. Women prefer low body fat combined with male-on-male violence. It meets the basic visual indicators for a healthy mate. Low bodyfat means there's less likely to be major health issues, particularly in affluent societies, and violence against other men meets the female need for protection / social dominance. Fight Club Brad Pitt meets both criteria.

Women don't actually understand things like strength, which is why they think 80lbs girl boss mary sue characters can realistically solo fight a 250lb chud in tv and movies.

They also think that bodybuilder physiques mean that a man is spending too much time/money on the gym, and therefore less will be funneled to her. I've known multiple people who, after they get married, the woman deliberately tries to overfeed him so that he gets fat and loses interest in the gym.

It's all about the face and hair, always has been.

handsome guy works out

"Wow, he's taking care of his health and body, what a dreamboat!"

sub5 balding guy (bonus points for beard) works out

"lol, clearly overcompensating"

under 177cm is rough.
shorter guys have to get shorter women for sure.

women are not lying. it's the same way men see women: most men do not like muscle-bound women. bodybuilder physiques are liked by some women, but most of the time it is purely for men.

fact is, the left physique is more natural and thus looks better than the right (which implies he is quite vain, and probably spends too much time in the gym).

Females are attracted to the capacity of the male to rape them, you can be skinny and still be attractive to the woman cause she knows you got all the capabilities and willingness to rape them for hours.
Hitting the gym completes only one side, if you are mentally weak and not ready to rape the woman then you will be unattractive to the woman.
Willingness to rape them is where it’s at not the gym.

ozempic face
drained of all nutrients, begging for carbs
this is what women want all men to be

but if shorter guys only get shorter women, doesn't that cause the next generation to get progressively shorter? are we going to see hobbits within our life time?

this is a retarded analysis, anon

not my experience.
the chief scientists, best programmers, real-deal CTOs, etc, the actual rule-breaking tinkerer types are certainly not obese, but they arent gym rats.
ivy league means nothing anymore, its a social club - MIT or places like that would be a better measure than 'ivy league'
"I just have better genetics so its easier for me to build muscle and burn fat with less work."
confirmed - you are an ugly person, post a pic or just shut the fuck up - imagine trying to boost yourself here with such rubbish
jews are the root of all evil.

If you're not Chad, going to the gym is a waste of time.
The gym is only for people who already had good genetics.
You cannot look better or get taller by lifting some weights.

most men do not like muscle-bound women

what evolutionary advantage would a muscle bound woman provide? I would tend to agree with you that the "mens open bodybuilder" look is akin to a bimbo for women, ie fake lips, fake tits etc.

women should understand, that when your ass looks like you are wearing an adult diaper isnt that hot and cellulite isnt sexy

questionthread

girlfriend nonsense

Good thing they brought Anon Babble back!

You can be a fat fucking slob with your gut hanging over your gunt, and can still get girls through sheer force of personality. This is a lesson Anon Babbletards have yet to learn.

are we going to see hobbits within our life time?

at some point gattaca gets real and gene editing will make designer babies routine.

This.

that when your ass looks like you are wearing an adult diaper isnt that hot and cellulite isnt sexy

I disagree

It's because of his face. His muscles look better, but he lost a ton of facial fat. Which doesn't look good when you have naturally large facial features like he does. His skin looks saggy and deflated, so he looks older. He probably was fasting and dry in the second pic, and it always makes your face look like shit.

Women don't care about muscles.

Which one is after the transformation? Sure there's a lower bodyfat on the right, but he could've been bulking and thus ended up on the left.

confirmed - you are an ugly person, post a pic or just shut the fuck up - imagine trying to boost yourself here with such rubbish

projecting faggot. Accuses me of trying to "boost" myself by saying the equivalent of 2+2=4. I gave nothing more than a fact that I've dealt with. I am not going to post a picture of myself so you can move the fucking goal post, then I have to prove my height, then I have to prove its me. Stfu, faggot. If you hate yourself and the way you look this much, do something about it, instead of getting triggered every time someone mentions IN PASSING that they happen to be fit in a place where that may not be the norm.

Musk is all over this

He's already fit in the photo before, in the pic after he's just pushing the muscle mass development and imho looks bad on both men and women, if you do that it goes outside of looking beautiful.
As long as you have some sort of muscle mass that correctly supports your bone structure and your weight and fat mass are in the healthy range provided by medical standards (there's a chart on wikipedia) you're good to go.
Only thing I can think of is maybe the guy in the pic before could make himself look more thin and toned by just doing some cardio or any moderate physical activity to lose 3-5 kg but I should take his weight first.

He's already very fit in the pic before, and I don't even think many people actually believed the jacked meme.

Black women are the only exception, every other group of female are turned off by overly fit men, they find it vain. 4 pack is the perfect balance, 6 pack is vanity. They want guys who look as if they are just naturally fit and strong. Same way guys prefer natural big breasts and are turned off by implants.

Only thing I can think of is maybe the guy in the pic before could make himself look more thin

That's exactly what he did, not "push the muscle mass development"

dark haired, literal self described "feminist"

HAHAHAHAHAHA
stay jacked bros

They're not wrong he looks like a gay twink on the right

The idea that designer babies will result in better looking / fitter people is retarded. Designer babies will just result in bizarre, culturally absurd babies. Chinks will just make all their babies have blue eyes, jews will engineer 3 foreskins per child to better please their rabbis, blacks will engineer 2 foot long mega dicks that guarantee death during sex, and women everywhere will engineer chameleon hair pigments so they can change hair color at will.

Literally none of it will make people healthier.

Money
Height
Face
Body
In that order

His neck and jaw look smaller and he looks shorter from perspective in the after. Simple as that.

He cut bodyfat after a bulk cycle you gay retard

every other group of female are turned off by overly fit men

Real life defies all the idiotic shit that women say online, idiotic shit like you just said right there.
You also have no idea how abs work. Stop posting for eternity.

Male tier list

God tier

Lanklet

High tier

Dad bod

Mid tier

Swimmer Bod
Bearmode

Low tier

Wirey strong

Shit tier

Jacked

Chinks will just make all their babies have blue eyes, jews will engineer 3 foreskins per child to better please their rabbis, blacks will engineer 2 foot long mega dicks that guarantee death during sex, and women everywhere will engineer chameleon hair pigments so they can change hair color at will.

I want all of that for everyone

No, his body was way better before. I don't know how to explain it, but the after looks more like a power twink. It's the feeling you get from a guy who wears those shoes with the horse bit on them, or uses a lot of cologne/hair product. The before shows muscle definition + some fat, it's look good and normal. He actually looks like a man. Having almost no body fat is not attractive, it looks weird. Never seen it pulled off well and it screams that you're overly invested in taking gym selfies. It also feels worse. And it makes this guy look like Walton Goggins. Pass.

This is real.

This isn't ripped though. It's just natty. Gym bros are retarded

It's like how men like thin women but they don't want anorexic walking skeletons. Yes muscle is nice but it's a fine line.

chuds self improvement attempts are a waste of time, when youre chad (me) on the other hand a sixpack equals big tiddies for women.
wahmen grab your manboobs and want to touch you everywhere.

stop trying retards, accept your fate. i walk around with a nice tan and all kinds of women throw themselves at me even little girls.

He like tripled his muscle mass, 6 months of medium muscle training would have been enough, he pushed waay past that.

Women pretending that they like men is funny.
Did women approach that guy at all before or after?
No. Why's that? That's because women don't like most men at all

So otterbod?

Men having detailed discussions about the way other men look is very gay.

Shut the fuck up you ignorant fag

No it's because the after pic he is smaller. You want a little bit of body fat

bottom left, bottom middle, top right look good though?

Sorta.

There is a difference between fit and muscular. Women really aren't that attracted to muscular bodies. They are attracted to fit bodies.

The picture on the left is a fit man, while the man on the right sucks penises and opens his butthole for them.

female gaze.

there is no such thing. Only the male gaze

aww chad today you look so good DID I TELL YOU THAT I JUST BROKE UP WITH MY BOYFRIEND, CHAD??? LOL

To understand women you must think like a retard manipulator who is only succesful because of tits and society pushing men to pander to them.

The fit guy is a menace to their self image and also means more competition(with themselves and with other women). Women will always try to keep their men as a fatty slave/pet because it makes her feel more secure that way. That's why they are gainz goblins.

Some women change when they become self aware but it's gacha levels of rare.

He like tripled his muscle mass

no he didn't. He cut body fat to show the muscle that was hiding under fat.

Sad truth, women are just histrionic whores that enjoy getting chased just for the fun of teasing you by saying "no".
To women getting your attention and being desired is the male equivalent of touching the tits of a 20 years old woman.
To women men are just jesters and stepladders to climb the social hierarchy.

Sorry you wasted your time at the gym. Left pulls vastly more tail than right, every time.

He like tripled his muscle mass

There's no gym for your brain. I'm pretty sure you'd fail the pic related test despite not being a woman.

Clean your glasses/screen.

yea and now hes fucking bald and looks like a retard with clothes on because of the juice.

its da joos

its over for this chud. go make money instead of trying to get bald you numbnuts. thats your only chance.

you don't 3x muscle mass in just 12 weeks

No, women just don't like jacked men

But women love muscles

Yes the same way men like thin women. Some light definition is hot and underlying strength is hot, but nobody wants some weirdly shaped muscle man just like men don't like anorexic women with 2% body fat.

That's a woman insulting you anon. You can tell because only a woman would try to make fun of a concept like getting fit, a.k.a. improving yourself.

Buy an ad, you parasite! Not that anyone wants your used-up whores anyway.

I would call it lying though. They can't really say that they prefer one when they don't like either

You're either having a chuckle trolling me or you're genuinely retarded.

This dad bod is peak performance

it's one thing to not understand what women want but it's another thing to think that women are all lying to you when they tell you what they want. if you want to know what women actually want, read chick romance or fanfiction - not erotica, not the BDSM stuff, but the fluffy romance shit.

You are functionally retarded. You LOOK larger and more muscular at lower body fat at a lower weight. Shut the fuck up.

Assuming left pic is 0% and right pic is 100% he should have gone no more than 30%, fixing your diet and just doing physical activity every now and then is more than enough.
Cardio, squats and so on.
Right pic is just doing it for the hobby.

He looks better on the left. He looks strong and proportionate. On right he looks like he wants to sell you a stereo out of back of a van.

Destroyed the thread.
Women love muscle. Fight club and 300 were definitely appealing to my gf. However they hate the super low body fat shit.
It's just like men. Men love huge tits, but generally want flat stomachs and small waists. The easiest way to get bigger tits for women is to get fat just like for men the easiest way to get muscle definition is to drop body fat. Both are failed IQ tests.
The more muscle you have, the more body fat you can have on top to be attractive to women.
So if you want to be a 6 pack hottie for women you can drop them body fat, but you need to skip the gym. Just do 6 months of regular gym to build some muscle, then stop and drop your body fat. If you wanna get swole stop cutting. It should be easy, but gymbros all have damaged self-esteems

What women fantasize about has no bearing on reality. Who cares?

wahmen grab your manboobs and want to touch you everywhere.

Only hags do that and it's disgusting

cope lmao

costumary liars begs you to believe them

Fuck this noise, lift weigths disregard women

That's not true, lazy flap men keep saying this just like fat girls trying to push body positivity.

Not that anyone wants your used-up whores anyway.

I want her

To be honest most dudes obsessed with fitness are massive faggots. Just go to Anon Babble and look at how faggot that board, I’m pretty sure a lot of incels are just deeply closeted fags.

that’s not true

t. 30 year old virgin that spends all day on Anon Babble discussions men’s bodies

who the fuck cares what women want.
it's pointless to listen to them because you could meet every single point of their check list, and they'd just make up a new one.
you could be fucking zeus incarnate and they'd still find something to complain about.
it's not possible to make women happy because they don't want to be happy. they want to bitch and nag.

For most men it is the truth. Women don't care if most men are fit or not because they don't like most men at all.
Want girls? Either become famous or a dealer

he looks like a typical white male from middle ages

all white men look like that.

On the left he looks like he did some steroids and a bunch of other shredding/trimming drugs while doing intense workouots and also lost a lot of . weight due to some crazy diet.. Anyways even thou this is just a cherry picked one guy one picture time wasting post - yes he looks "better" on the left, he should of just kept working out like normal without all the crazy stuff he took to look like the left.

This.
Basically women after 30 turn into what they falsely accused nice guys of acting like.

you could be fucking zeus incarnate and they'd still find something to complain about.

That's why Zeus had to disguise himself and rape so often

It is. If two guys walked up to random women on the beach asking for phone numbers, the one with the Sandler body would do 10 times better. People don't realized how turned off women really are by overly fit guys, it's almost as bad as being obese.

I am not going to post a picture of myself

i know
you are fat and ugly.
didnt read the rest

Most women prefer body like picrel. Losing fat makes you less fertile btw. You also look smaller.

This only works of you're over 6ft btw.

Which of the two would you rather have defend you from a basketball american?

Yeah. Like where the fuck you where at when you didn't look like Tutankhamen's grandma?

Discussing fisherian runoff is not gay, retard. You can't allow complete gender control over sexual selection or you end up with dysgenic retards.

lmao, sure chief, you know women so well

Musk is all over this

apparently musk's penis doesnt work and has to use mechanical means to extract sperm and inseminate chicks.
should a fellow with a broken dick be using artificial means to reproduce?
i was thinking the other day since all the leftists are on a tesla jihad and the tesla boat is taking on water in terms of sales and margin, i would go and price one out and get a deal.
man, those fucking cars are 2x-3x what they should cost.

Woken prefer fit men, don’t delude yourself. Set her up with a personal trainer or BJJ instructor and see what happens to your girl.

all he did was shed additional fat, anon. that's all. he didn't do a crazy amount of drugs and got shredded in 12 weeks, he just burned off the extra fat so you could see the muscles he already had on the left.
some other german said it earlier in the thread, the reason women dislike it is because it shows discipline, and disciplined people are harder to take advantage of.

post picture of myself

"you look like a twink!"

"that's not you!"

"you must be short"

"anon, don't post photos, gay guys get anons to do this so they can jerk off"

I've been here before, anon. You will endlessly move goalposts because you hate yourself. Just kill yourself already.

ive got a dad bod like sandler and four children.
you might want to ask which types have more children.
also
mark went dad bod this year

Women are insecure. Wow

HOLY FUCK WHY IS EVERY THREAD A WOMAN THREAD FUCKING KYS

Women never tell the truth because they fear conflict, so they are always trying to fit in the group they are a part of so that they can then try to slowly change opinions to manipulate the outcome.

If you want to know a woman's real opinion she must be drunk or in a situation where retaliation is impossible.

This is the reason Women hate each other, because they can all see the levels of manipulation other women are engaged in.

kek

This is a spam thread with fewer than 1000 votes, most of which are unknown gender

You will endlessly move goalposts

nope.
had one 'goalpost'
you failed

You have one now. Then will come another, and another, and another. Again, I've been here before. It's far more exhausting to post myself than it is to just tell you to kill yourself.

This would only be true if she is in a group where she can be judged as superficial by her "friends".

The problem is your definition of "fit". Women find the version on the left fit. They find the version on the right gay/vain. The blue collar contractor with a dad body will steal your girl 10x easier than the tennis instructor with the shaved chest.

your credibility is zero.
picrel=you

if you've really got 4 kids, why are you wasting your time on here on a sunday?

2 pbtid twitter screenshot slide thread

Not fooling anyone glownigger just cause you posted the link as well.

because he doesn't but just really needs to cope that being obese isn't so bad

They want men dressed like fashion models being rich and dedicating 100% of their time to swooning and obsessing over them. So a working man is already suboptimal for a woman even if he has cash. PewDiePie in a suit is the ideal man.

Women want to do something minor and receive total worship. It's honestly sobering to read romance shit for women analytically. Women in general have warped perceptions of self. Male romance just wants seduction and a woman to be nurturing, that's it. So male romance is infinitely superior. Women's romance seems fluffy until you realize the guy is not allowed to have any other interest or concern besides finding her attractive, extremely good and validating all her feelings 24/7.
I recently read one where the protagonist becomes a bitch during her period and the guy just has no issues with it and showers her with love, saying how she looks good even when she insults him for no good reason. That is what women want, but being a man you can achieve it in only two ways:

1) being a low self-esteem sucker for abuse and co-dependency
2) not giving a shit for what she says and pretending to care to get sex

This is not what men want, it's what women create with their own needs. In a relationship good women learn to not bitch, but in their minds that's already them tolerating a situation below optimal. It's also why spoiling women creates monsters: they will whore non-stop for attention and for men to lie to them, since men will take a lot of shit when they try to get laid. All a woman then has to do is fuck a guy and quickly move on to a new one when the former stops taking shit from her. That or keeping simps around her dosing out sex, since betas just love validating her bitching endlessly.

Being fit isn't the problem. Going too far with it is. You don't have to pick between being either a weak fat cunt or some obsessive fairy who cries if he can't see all his abs perfectly.

apparently musk's penis doesnt work and has to use mechanical means to extract sperm and inseminate chicks.

His dick works (supposedly he knocked sexlaptop up naturally), he uses IVF to select only male embryos

Based.

This is peak physical form. Fit without looking like some orc on steroids

your credibility is zero

anon, I'm not giving you fap material. And that's final.

yep. it's grim. but men have their own problems. i recall this quote from c.s. lewis, where he says that the purpose of sexual appetite and love is to "[lead] the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren)". the point is that nobody comes out of the womb fully formed. relationships are supposed to complete you.

too many men and women have the attitude these days that they're already perfect exactly the way that they are, and that friction in a relationship means that the relationship isn't working rather than that they have things to learn and change.

the point is i don't want to be a woman because i find their way of existing in the world repulsive to me, but that doesn't mean women are bad. there's nothing wrong in your post but it's just not the whole story imo.

I think, wrongly, the left comes across as someone who would be an arrogant prick and unpleasant to be around and he probably wears a male g-string. Despite in my experience all that being much more true of dadbodders than gymcels.

the guy on the right doesnt even look muscular. he looks skinny. the problem isnt that hes too muscular, its that hes too skinny.

Left looks like a family father with a manual labour job, right looks like someone who has no reason to live and copes all day at the gym

it's all in the hands.

left

hands clenched, highly strung, high tension, you're not safe around him, he could fly off the handle

right

relaxed, taking it easy, you can relax around him

obviously neither of those things are facts. but it's just really easy to see what the difference in 'vibe' is there.

LOL! LMAO!

Women: I like a dad bod
Men: They're lying to us, I don't know what they get out of telling men in general to look less attractive but I know they're lying

It has to be within the realm of believability that you have the body without working out. If you have the "pumped" look, it's a dead giveaway and you lose points rapidly. Women want guys with good genetics, not gymbros.

dedicating 100% of their time to swooning and obsessing over them

Sounds like me

He does yoga and smokes weed in Spain now.

His dick works (supposedly he knocked sexlaptop up naturally), he uses IVF to select only male embryos

i heard he has that wire in the dick because he has impossibly bad ED
also
if he only has male children by preference, kind of funny that Xavier went full blown tranny.
Nevada (M)(dead)
Griffin (M)
Xavier (M)
Kai (M)
Saxon (M)
Damian (M)
X (M)
Y (F)
Strider (M)
Azure (F)
Techno (M)
Arcadia (F)
Romulus (M)
Seldon (M)
id be willing to bet none of these children do anything of value or interest.

We know. Problem is just that

It's easy being attractive, just be *list of predetermined genetic traits you can't affect in any way by your actions and that a supermajority of men don't have*

is not a viable cope. Men who had bad luck of the draw like to delude themselves that hard work can save them. It's why self-improovment appealed to my generation so much. Previous ones could accept fate quite easily. Boomers laugh about young men who are sad they're not part of the minority women lust after. But millennials were raised on

You can be and achieve anything if you try hard enough

and being told that no, you actually can't and have it regard that one part of life every male is hardcoded to want (being desirable to the opposite sex) is just not something they can process. You have no idea what utter carnage in the form of bloody, unfathomably violent chimpouts were avoided by my generations men distracting themselves with bodybuilding, obsessive grooming, fashion perfectionism and other things women never tire to point out they don't really value that much, thinking any second now they'd drown in pussy for sure, until they hit their 30s and the burning need in their loins abated to controllable levels. Without this you'd have had hordes of short, bald, no-jawline chuds forming groups to LARP as the guy from that "Hatred" game and just kill as many as possible due to levels of frustration and abject, defeated ultradepression women and top tier men cannot fathom. Male sexual defeat results in violence in most species.

can't compete? just kill the competition!

May be an abhorrent idea to civilized societies but it is a viable evolutionary strategy in nature. Now that

even gene lottery losers get a not-fat wife to coom in so they don't chimp out

is no longer true, comforting lies based on false hopes and distractions to gain time until the dicks become droopy all by themselves are vital. You'd be well advised to leave these delusions intact.

SeeWomen don't like most men dad bod or not

came here to say exactly this. good job.

no, the dad bod thing is a myth. women are intimidated by men with developed bodies who take care of themselves in the gym because it means the woman will have to raise her standards for herself and be a genuine actor as opposed to a deceiver. you have to remember that women see their true selves every day in the morning when they look in the mirror without makeup, what YOU see is the illusion, but they'll still act like they're far more attractive than they really are after frauding their sexual market value with makeup and cosmetics.

the ripped dude reminds woman that other people are bettering themselves in more permanent, legitimate, respectable ways whereas she wants the space reserved in the relationship to be vain for herself only. the ripped version of the dude makes them feel insecure and inferior and makes the realisation dawn on them that they'll actually have to try at something in life for once. never listen to what a retarded woman says, observe how she actually acts if you want to better understand her motivations. "i like cuddly dadbods :)" is a complete lie and you're falling for it.

They want some chubby slob who reminds them of their boomer dads…

Maybe they didn't approach him because he's weird and generally men approach women. Women don't generally approach a 7/10 but that doesn't make the 5/10 more attractive because no women approach either of them.

Gym junkies got psyoped by gay jews

The ideal pairing is

tall 6'3+ and dad bod like on the left

skinny petite almost anorexic 5'1-5'3 girl

This is the ideal pairing for heterosexual couples in 2025 and you can't convince me otherwise. When these conditions are met, they have kids in less than a month

PewDiePie in a suit is the ideal man.

*with pewdiepie money.

bingo. lots of replies in this thread have been bluepilled but a few gems like this prove Anon Babble is still there underneath it all.

absolutely wrong.

Fuck off they are lying. Beauty is universal a healthy and strong human body looks beautiful to humans. Men and Women.
NEVER trust what a woman say. Look at what she does. Now how do Chad and Tyrone look?

The real problem is that you care. Who gives a fuck what a woman or anyone else thinks? If you want to be fit and go to the gym, then do it. If not, then do that too. Stop caring so much what other people think about you, and just be yourself. Caring want other people think is the gayest weakest shit ever. Picrel not related, but I am very glad to be back.

posting this gay ass pic in the first place is cringe. don't do this. women do this shit. if you go to to the gym, don't gloat like a fucking woman might. (and don't defend women doing it, either, it is bad all around to be vain)

That's the key of the issue. If being a 7/10 is as good for women as being a 5/10 there's no point in listening about what women like or not because they don't act on it.

He would be more successful if he approached

To such a marginal degree that it does not matter.
Women then will ask themselves why gay men take care of themselves and try to blame straight men for it.
Gay men acknowledge when other men take the effort of trying to look better.
They don't have anyone to blame but themselves.

this is one of the worst posts i've read in the history of Anon Babble and of course it has to come from the fingers of a jew or a woman or both.

Men are faggots

if they were, it would make things a lot easier, since no one wants to deal with goblinoid females and their awful personalities for effectively no reward. take off the layer of caked on makeup and a woman basically becomes a weak looking man with no testosterone anyway.

>...salivate over other men at the gym making "gains".

admiring someone's dedication and pushing the limit of the male form to become stronger and more resilient isn't gay, but trust some kiked faggot with retarded opinions like yours to homoeroticize it. everything with women and jews is about cocks, anuses and incest. i don't know how women and jews came to share the same brains, but they do.

Women just want you to look young and normal you dumb fuck.

no one should rightly give a fuck what women think or want and caring about that in the first place is what began the degradation of western society. take a look in the mirror before calling anyone else a dumb fuck you fucking cunt retard.

i don't know how women and jews came to share the same brains, but they do.

jews are highly matriarchal. All jewish men have mommy issues

a mentally ill affront to nature

did you think this was a zinger? you sound like you're flipping through a thesaurus trying to verbalize your thoughts and this abortion is what came out. stop trying so hard, midwit. fucking hell

What does the demographic of women who exclusively consume this kind of literature look like? Also lol @ this

I'm married and look like the right. My wife eye fucks me whenever I walk around the house shirtless. She didn't when I looked like the left. Women don't know what they like and instead enjoy being told what they like. Simple as.

That's the key of the issue. If being a 7/10 is as good for women as being a 5/10 there's no point in listening about what women like or not because they don't act on it.

They'll be more likely to be interested if you approach them. If a 5/10 approached me I'd turn them down, if a 7/10 approached me I'd at least chat or agree to meet up.

To such a marginal degree that it does not matter.

Says you

Women then will ask themselves why gay men take care of themselves and try to blame straight men for it.

What the fuck is this even a reference to?

Gay men acknowledge when other men take the effort of trying to look better.

Okay, maybe gay men will love your hairless muscled chest.

They don't have anyone to blame but themselves.

I'm not blaming anyone, I'm just saying men who don't get what women like when they shout it from the rooftops are stupid. It'd be like men saying "I love women with big tits" and women assuming men actually want chubby, flat-chested women because men must be lying.

Ideal man is tall and skinny, some women have preferences for some light muscle definition (swimmer body), and some have a preference for some fat (dad bod), but women don't like musclebound hulks.

He looks objectively worse. Being muscular and having lower body fat isn’t an automatic guarantee to be better-looking. He looks smaller and gay. Muscles /= attractiveness. Now of you vehemently despise muscular women, which is normal. And muscular women with little body fat can’t even get pregnant. It goes both ways. Humans aren’t supposed to look like these cartoon characters. This isn’t fitness, he looks fit in the original. This is body building which was literally created by jews. Gen Z being into body building and other gens trying it out to compete is a weird trend. Every house I go to with a gen Z incel living there has protein powder tubs in the kitchen. It’s a fad that will pass just like a few years ago when they wouldn’t shut up about buying stocks

Because it is, why the fuck you as a man would you want to be fit and eat like a punctual sissy, be a fucking real man with muscle and fat, all warriors had been muscle and fat not only muscle

NOOOOO I CAN'T EAT THIS PIZZA IT'S NIGHT AND I WILL GET FAT