Seriously how do Muslims defend their prophet? He is like the most amoral man in existence...

Seriously how do Muslims defend their prophet? He is like the most amoral man in existence. There is nothing admirable about him. He is basically a warlord that went around raping, killing, pillaging. He is opposite in every way to Jesus.

Sounds like Anon Babble's kinda guy

It is important for you to pay attention to what will happen to your life from now on.

They wont answer when you bring this up. Truly cowardly behavior.

Can only respond to criticism with vague threats of "watch your back"

lol

Anon when the rest of the world doesn't follow his libturd system of morality and "values" :0

please follow my moral system I am a very important person I made this system now I will judge you based on it

Well considering it's a reward point religion... Most members are in it for the afterlife not this life.

Yes, she was married at nine years old, but actually the marriage was consummated when she was ten years old.

China has different values, but I can respect them.
Persia has different values (before Islam) but I can respect them.
India has different values (even though they are a bit annoying at times) and I can respect them.

Islam is just fully incompatable with high culture, modern civilization. You will never see an Islamic society flourish without oil money because it is incompatable with higher order organization.

Who made the retarded basement dweller with no friends the Supreme Authority on morality?
He now gets to decide for everyone what's good and bad.

They're nearly as disgusting as kikes.

Butthurt pedo worshipper is mad

p-please follow my retarded moral system or I will call you names

No, lmao eat shit

He's literally promising a world where you get a virgin wife and then an afterlife where you get endless virgins. Even if he only delivers the first half you're doing better than you are in the secular world or Christendom.

which is unironically the only rational outlook at this life

By definition every one should be opposed to yours, because it destroys everything it touches, and violently wants to expand.

this nigger actually converted to islam cuz of tate geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg

WHAAAAA YOU'RE NOT FOLLOWING MY ARBITRARY MORALITY WHAAAAA

cry about it

She wasn’t 9, plus it’s not in the Quran. You lost.

I don't care if you follow my morality. Just leave all our shit alone. Go larp as some Arab pedo in the desert for all I care.

Just leave all our shit alone

That is a silly request.

No, she was 9 and it is in the Quran.
Why are you submitting to retarded liberal values? Fuck them, stop coping

Her age is not mentioned in the Quran. Her age in the Hadiths can’t be taken seriously since it’s just a number with the possibility of being an error.

Muslim scholars will tell you that you are heretical for picking and chosing which Hadiths to follow.

So what? Even if she was 9 who gives a fuck? Where does the Quran mention the age of consent being 18 or 16 or 14 or anything really?
Why are you respecting arbitrary secularist nonsense?

Kek

Can you tell everyone here why they should respect your arbitrary nonsense created by schizo dude from 1400 years ago?

but actually the marriage was consummated when she was ten years old.

Checkmate Athiests.

You should do whatever the fuck you want if you're not a muslim, frankly.

denial, cope. you can seethe now

Then I will and I will oppose the expansion of Islam because I don't want to live in a shit hole and I don't want future generations to live in a shit hole. Thanks

Friendly reminder the term pedophile was invented by Jewish psychiatrist in the 1880's. It didn't exist until then, there were no words to describe having sex with teenage girls because it was normal and not considered immoral.

Would you let your child be treated by Jewish psychiatrists? Yeah, thought so.
If you use the word pedophile you are using Jewish rhetoric.

Go fight in Yemen then cause America is under no threat of becoming Islamic anytime soon. Europe is, but you're not European and Europeans don't even like you to begin with.

I can' t ger into the head or mindset of subhuman sand niggers but Muhommad was no prophet. Jesus was. You know how I know that? Jesus never raised an army but a spiritual one. He never lusted after power on earth or battled other men for anything but their soul while here. Hile spoke of love and brotherhood and kindness. Muhommad was a violent savage warlord who crowned himself God. Big differences between the two. The main one is how Jesus only acted as if his kingdom was in heaven and told his flock to practice peace and love and to conquer people through words and acts of kindness and charity. Muhommad's followers are violent psychos who still practice terrorism to this day. I know which one I consider God's prophet.

There's a difference between teenage and 9, Mohammad. Man, it is getting harder for muzzies to keep up the taqqiya, everyone is getting wise to their ways!

Because he is a god to them.
Ibn Taymiyya wrote:

The scholars recognized by Allah and His accepted Friends have narrated that Muhammad the Messenger of Allah will be seated by His Lord on the Throne next to Him.

Abu Muhammad al-Makki, Abu’l-Layth as-Samarqandi and others related that when Adam rebelled, he said, “O Allah, forgive me my error by the right of Muhammad!” Allah said to him, “How do you
know Muhammad?” He said, “I saw written in every place in the Garden, ‘There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah.’ So I knew that he was the most honoured of creation in Your
eyes.” So Allah turned to him and forgave him. It is said that this is the interpretation of the words of Allah, “Adam learned some words from his Lord.” (2:27)

Another variant has that Adam said, “When you created me, I lifted my gaze to Your Throne and written on it was: “There is no god but Allah, Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah,” so I knew there
would be no one held in greater esteem by You than the one whose name You placed alongside Your own name.” Allah then revealed to him, “By My might and majesty, he is the last of the prophets among your descendants. If it had not been for him, I would not have created you.”

Whether Muslims want to admit it or not, Muhammad is another god in Islam.

let me groom your daughters and if you oppose it you are a Jew!

I'm not sure why they follow him but that's why we blow them up constantly.

Grooming is a made up lefturd word. It didn't exist in the form it is used now until very recently.

inb4 all words are made up

Cope about it. Just admit you're a leftist cuck and move on with your life.

You know you're talking to a """trad-con""" when xir pulls out every buzzword from the liberal rhetoric book.
I might as well be talking to Schlomo Goldberg, certified psychiatrist in Victorian England.

You have no real evidence for anything you said.

hi jew. she wasnt a kid.

he was not a jew like rabbi yeshua. He was the prime example of an alpha chad leader who unified a retarded nation and turned into a superpower

He is basically a warlord that went around raping, killing, pillaging.

They aspire to be like him. Deep down, they don't deceive themselves either. They know he was amoral, violent and unrestrained predator.

He was just a schizo if he did exist.

He also has no evidence that having sex with your 9 years old wife harms her physically or mentally in any way shape or form. Because it doesn't, don't let the Jewish "experts" fool you they fuck kids behind your back.

The whole pedo witch hunt is just Jews mocking you retarded goyim: fresh pussy for me but not for thee

Muslim scholars such as Walid N. Arafat have disputed the Banu Qurayza were killed on a large scale.[98] Arafat disputes large-scale killings and argued that Ibn Ishaq gathered information from descendants of the Qurayza Jews, who embellished or manufactured the details of the incident. Arafat relates the testimony of Ibn Hajar, who denounced this and other accounts as "odd tales" and quoted Malik ibn Anas, a contemporary of Ibn Ishaq, whom he rejected as a "liar", an "impostor" and for seeking out the Jewish descendants for gathering information about Muhammad's campaign with their forefathers.[99]

Ah yes let’s believe the descendants of the massacred Jewish tribe. Jews have never embellished their suffering or made false accusations before.

We all know that the 600 Jews dindu nuffin because Jews are such trustworthy honest people that never did nothing 109 times.

youre also a jew

Cope.

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The accusations that Mohammed was a warlord come from people that believe all Jews. I will never believe the Jewish account of the early campaigns of the Muslims. In fact this makes me believe Muhammad was rightly guided even more if all the accusations against him come from literal Jewish holocaust survivors. MUHHHHH 600 GORIILLION BANY QURAYZA JEWS!!!!

Cope faggot. He achieved the most remarkable things in few years. buck breaking not only jews but jew worshippers and pagans and even niggers now that is the definition of BASED

if he did exist

Imagine being this retarded. And then you probably believe Jesus existed lmaoooo

Every single jew died in the holocaust "Israelis" are actually ost deutsche and anglos

You won‘t do shit. It‘s been taken care of. Congrats.

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Islam is just fully incompatable with high culture, modern civilization. You will never see an Islamic society flourish without oil money because it is incompatable with higher order organization.

/thread

is there a reason all you need converts just make up your own Sunnah? I find it deranged, yet fascinating.

even your file is saved in hebrew lol, fucking rat

Remember the 600 gorillion Jews that dastardly evil doer Muhammad massacred! They dindu nuffin!!!

Remember the 600 gorillion Jews that dastardly evil doer Muhammad massacred! They dindu nuffin!!!!!!

Lmfao I held back from making assumptions about your flag but hahahhahaa the jokes write themselves. May Jesus Christ enter your heart and heal your spirit.

You have 0 evidence that Jesus existed, you have 0 evidence of the miracles he supposedly performed lmao.
No, a series of contradictory books written by schizophrenic Jews doesn't count.

sand monkeys

What's that meme about consent? Nvm made it myself also meme flag fag

Jesus Christ (the character) was a sand monkey.
You worship a sand monkey ahahahaha

You have 0 evidence that Mohammed existed, you have 0 evidence of the miracles he supposedly performed lmao.
No, a series of contradictory books written by schizophrenic Jews doesn't count.

Maybe islam is a much younger religion and they wanted their own prophet.

Muhammad was a pedophile warlord

Muhammad wasn't real

Hahahahahaha make up your mind you retarded christcuck faggot which one is it?

why couldn't muhammad pbuh just have married a normal foid, this is like the #1 thing that comes up over and over and over and over again and there is no good way of addressing it. so fucking embarrassing

Suckers that look like this should never procreate. However that is just the idealistic take on such structures.
Wasnt there a study where you could trace the linage of ancient egypt back to a few thousand men and the rest went empty handed.

I'm not a muslim but this was pretty normal at the time.

The hadiths are the talmud of the muslims

Mathematically speaking those men werent always warriors infact a lot of them would have been merchants. Hence they would produce a lot of unwanted offspring, genetically speaking.

The Hadiths are a hell of a lot more important to Islam than the talmud to Judaism
It completely dictates Islamic life and cannot be questioned

muslims have stopped defending their prophet or islam for that matter. Now they simply attack others. Their is no muslim apologist in islam.
If you ask a muslim doing dawa any tough questions about islam, they get defensive and threaten violence.
Muslims have lost the intellectual debate about islam. All they have now fear to make sure the followers don't go astray

And by the betas you shall know them.

12 major Hindu gods are literal serial rapists.

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newsline

any honest analysis of the evidence proves that

evidence

Alternative theory: she was 9 years old and why the fuck do we care about the morality of a dirty, smelly poverty monkey?

Hahahahaha got you good goyim

Is this why indians would rather work as slaves in a gulf state than in india

You don't believe in Jesus though, do you jeet? You just want to attack other shitskins. Go back to your hole and die.

Care to point out her age in the Quran or anything to do with fucking underages in that book while you’re at it? The hadiths are not pure facts and are stories that might be true depending on theological analysis. The doings of Muhammad in the hadiths are only valid and correct and should be followed if they correctly correspond to the Quran. You’re just purity spiraling right now. Muhammad did not fuck a 9yo, there is simply zero proof.

you dont think jesus existed, even though theres letters written to and from him and the roman emperor and the first popes were his followers. bit of a jew arent you?

Lanat allah ala Aisha!

Lanat Allah ala Abu Bakr wa Umar

Yes they can be questioned you deranged criminal.

you lot beg for scraps from arabs working as slaves. pakis are a bad representation of islam.

I’m culturally Muslim. I’m not really hardcore about it, I just appreciate the life style that the faith promotes (no drinking, no drugs, etc)
My future wife will probably follow those rules too. AMA I guess

I'm still waiting for you to explain to me why you kids come up with your own Islam?
has anyone ever explained to you what "Sunnah" is?

bet the stench is so strong and putrid, you will hide in your mother's vagina and won't show the flag.
Just like i wrote, you can't defend muhammad and all you can do is attack others.
Muhammad used to make lil aisha sit on his lap and jibreel would talk to him. His dick is touching little aisha's asshole while he hears what god wants. Some prophet and some defenders of that prophet we have here

Are you planning a pilgrimage to Mecca? Or have you already gone? Do you approve of the Saud regime in how they operate the city/greater country?

Jeet fucking his local deity lmao.
How many animal gods do these zoophiles worship

The Quran is Islam, the Hadiths are saying that might have happened. You don’t know anything and are suffering from cognitive dissonance. Have some self respect on your lack of self awareness.

I’ll go whenever I get married to get it out of the way. So in 10ish years
I dont think much of that government

no, my young converted friend. the sunnah are the words and deeds of your prophet.
without sunnah, there is no mohammed.
are you understanding now?
why do you try and create your own sunni islam?

There is no divinity in the hadiths. Islam is not Muhammad, Islam is the Quran. You can’t disprove anything I’ve said and are purity spiraling because you have cognitive dissonance, probably an Indian with your lack of an IQ.

He is opposite in every way to Jesus.

not really. they're both retarded jew avrahimic jew shit and jesus is just as mentally ill and warmongering as this paedophile. read the bible. in revelations muh precious lamb jesus takes great pleasure in watching as locusts with scorpions tails, human faces, lions teeth and golden crowns sting everyone who chose not to follow him for 5 months. he stands by and watches with glee as the four horsemen of the apocalypse torture everyone who didn't take on board his words of "peace". he orchestrates your throwing in to the eternal lake of fire.

you see, if you don't listen to someone who tells you that they love you and are so peaceful and kind and caring, they torture and burn you in horrific ways. it makes a lot of sense, like most jewish garbage.

No they can't, unless you want to be killed by your fellow pedophiles

Yes they can you deranged Jew.

there is no divinity in the hadith

"qal allah, wa qal al rasul"

man you are new to this aren't you?
"What the prophet says, Allah said"
every word of your prophets Sunnah is divinely inspired.
so now that we know you're not a sunni, I'm guessing you're a new Shia, yes?

The kafir has noticed my taqiyya so I will call him a Jew

Muzrats are like broken records

memeflag

oy vey

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Hey faggot the Hadiths are ranked from probably true to fake, there is no divinity in the hadiths like the Quran because of that. Pajeets are low IQ and can’t argue for shit.

Kikes and hindpoos love to pilpul because they all suffer from cognitive dissonance.

And guess what rank the Hadiths calling Aisha 9 are
Yeah, Sahih

it really seems that way

And guess if it’s infallible or not kike

Seethe more Mahmoud
Your kind breeds through rape and lies

so you are a Shia?

subhuman with low argumentative skills gets BTFO from simple logic

Nobody respects you Jews or whatever maybe you’re just a smelly hinpoo and nobody respects you either

Go tell your imam that a Sahih hadith is a lie
See how quickly he tells you to get lost
You know this and are purposefully pretending it's not the case
Classic taqqiya

or a new Islam

Ask any imam if the Hadith is infallible you dirty subhuman kike

Place your bets ~%50 jew bot post

What about the Quran? 65:4 (a verse about the waiting period before you can divorce your wife)

As for those who have not menstruated yet

Blud thinks calling people Jewish wins arguments

If the hadith is Sahih it IS infallible in the eyes of an imam
You would unironically be beheaded in a caliphate

The hadiths are fallible, the Quran is the only thing that requires true faith. You might as well argue against the Quran and not the hadiths you subhuman poo. The Quran is the word of God not the Hadiths.

based ahlul bayt akhi

Not a single imam would say that any Hadith is infallible, only God is infallible. I know you’re a dirty Jew because that’s how you pricks talk. Pilpuling and thinking you have the upper hand at an argument, subhuman.

Your entire practice is built on hadiths. Retard

You jelly?

Yes what i really love about these people is just how much more modern and high cultured they are. Everyone needs to be more forward thinking, progressive, make peace and love and not war. Honestly marrying a woman before shes done with her phd and can really start her career and get to middle management is r*pe. If you have to use violence to make your point you are not modern.

Jesus is God in the OT. So they aren't that different lol.
Age of consent is a psy op. Muhammed was based.

qal allah qal al rasul

as your quran says
be honest, I'm intrigued. you watched a few vids, took your shahada because it looked really neat and fun but you've never actually looked into islam?

Man either this is taqqiya or you're just dumb

lol are you that much of a cognitive dissonance having retard? The worship of Allah and his words (the Quran) is the core practice of Islam.

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Amazing how kike poos think they know everything about Islam but fumble on the basic concept. You were found out.

Sarcasm aside if you’re one of those quran only muslims you would be killed for blasphemy in the caliphate, wahabbi schools do enforce (authentic) hadith believing as part of Islam, aka the islam most Muslims believe.

You sure about that? Ask any whabbi cleric if the Hadith is infallible. Why is this thread full of pilpulling retards? Be honest.

you can't even answer that simple question?
for gods sake, you just found out what sunnah is, no more than 5mins ago.
what actual good are you to your islam?

You’re pilpulling how can anybody take you seriously when you can’t even disprove anything I’ve said? Just how Jewish are you?

so you essentially know nothing of islam but what you saw on youtube. is that accurate?

So sahih muslim and sahih bukari is not just as followed as the quran in modern islam? Im looking this up and of you believe differently i dont care its just not what 1.5 billion people believe

Uthmans killing was also KINO

threw his body into the old Jewish cemetery

where he belongs

This is funny, you dont know the basic core of Islam but call me out as having cognitive dissonance. You are projecting.
Simple question: is Muhammad fucking Aisha at age 9 infallible or not?
Are they infallible or not? You larp as an expert but don’t know anything.

the leaf kid essentially created his own sect of sunni islam. that, or he is an african from around the sudan (quran only)
either way, it's quite fascinating

Ah pilpul. Is every retard poster @‘ting me Jewish? You’re doing a pilpul and avoided my question.

You’re Jewish, JIDF? People like you always seem to think real muslims put the Hadiths first and the Quran second. Kek you don’t know anything.

it's absolutely infallible.
BUT...well try this one more time for the 15yr old converts in the back....

qal allah, waqal al rasul

-quran 4:80
-quran 33:36
calling anyone jewish or the like won't get you out of you just learning that the sunnah is commanded to follow. as uncomfy as that may be.

it is absolutely infallible

Hey Jew, the hadiths aren’t the words of God. You lost and embarrassed yourself. Get better talking points next time.

lol considering how ZOGGED USA is, you can very likely expect to get your door busted down for that post you filthy Muslim.

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if you don't like my religion you're a Jew!!!!!!

Funny cope

so now that that's out of the way, what sect do you follow?

This package is mislabeled.

Joe Biden and his grand-niece, Natalie.

includes her dildo to use on Biden and her jug of lube and sack of crack

Seriously, can you imagine how tight she was and how much semen was pumped into her as a child by both hunter and joe?

Hey Jew, you can’t weasle your way out of saying the Hadith is infallible and that real muslims believe that when only God can be infallible. This isn’t some Jewish Ivy League where sophistry reigns supreme or whatever

Seriously how do Muslims defend their prophet?

Muslims are literally inbred retards from thousands of years of fucking their first cousins.

we've established you're nowhere near a sunni. so, ahmadiyyah, perhaps?

So what did you hope by arguing with me about the hadiths using cognitive dissonance JIDF talking point? Israel won’t exist so what are you doing this for? Shekels?

Are they infallible?

God I want a pale skin hijabi baby so bad bros
Inshallah

sunnis and shias follow different hadiths and shias say aisha was 18 which makes her older than what mary was when she consummated with Joseph who was in his 70's

You sound unironically schizophrenic

so you are a shia. we know you're not a sunni.
alawi, maybe?
what does that feel like not even being able to explain to another man (I'm assuming you're a male) what sect of islam you follow?
it's not going to hurt you.

If he's not a shia innit then he's probably one of the many millions of other sunnis out there that share the same belief as him. These sunnis are ones that salafiniggers also call kuffar and even go as far as accuse them of being Shia doing taqqiya when they clearly arent.
You are just basing your understanding of Sunni Islam to the views of wahabi/salafi niggers even though such a modern view from them is a very recent idea and quite the minority that only gained widespread prominence among sunnis only a single century ago and due to anglokikery and saudi oil money tmaking it quickly get it to be propogated widely to the sunni world.

If you look into history there was a time when sunnis didn't consider Ali to be a rightly guided Caliph as they do today or at least don't put him to a higher status compared to the others. Also times when sunnis widely shared the same beliefs as the leaf

same group of JIDF shills on the same farm in the same thread suffering from the same cognitive dissonance

What did you hope you would achieve here Moshe?

your female emotions don't sway me one way or another (I was never good with emotions). calling me a jew or jeet or nigger won't change your predicament.
so which sect?

He won't tell you because his sect commands obedience to the Hadiths

kek indeed

Get better talking points next time JIDF. It makes more sense for you subanimals to go after the Quran to shit on muslims than the fallible hadiths.

yes, we know you're not a sunni. that's been well established since you started typing.

the fallible hadith

now we're getting somewhere. how many times a day do you pray?

uh oh

Just say what sect

Muzzrat in a leaf flag having a meltdown ITT

It's amazing how these muslims can just lie through their teeth when confronted.

Reminder that most anti-Islam, anti-Christian threads are often created by either a Pajeet or a Kike, and especially when OP a is meme flag

Here’s the thing, you don’t understand the basic tenant of Islam, you don’t understand prose and you don’t understand how to even argue. In other words you’re an intellectual midget being a shameless sophist and constantly pilpuling because that’s how you people argue. The hadiths being fallible doesn’t mean that I believe they are all completely false. It’s called nuance, you retard, there is no proof that Aisha was 9 because that is a number that is or isn’t true. The fact that the Hadiths are fallible then it is probably not true and it being not true is irrelevant but you animals sure love to bring up Aisha when you rape kids every day and drink their blood you animals! You all talk the same, yes all three or four of you Jews or poos @ me which leads me to believe you’re JIDF retards with below 100 iq.
What are you talking about cockroach I smoked everybody that @ me. You smell like shit and probably a Jew using a VPN. Shameless vermin.

no wait, you don't understand

true. no one understands your sect of islam because it's never existed before today.
how many times a day do you

Death to all kikes
Death to all smelly pajeets

More important question, is your mother your sister?

They’re ontologically evil.

how many times a day do you pray?

Rich coming from you

Do you have condoms and lube on the farm?

simple question...how many times a day do you pray?

Meanwhile you have taysachs.

pedo that dressed in women's clothing

married at 6 fucked at 9

fixed

this

How common is gay sex in your unit?

gaysex

leave the quran out of this haram
how many times a day do you pray?
see how fun this is?

go suck on a big black nigger dick mudslime

since it’s just a number with the possibility of being an error.

Kek. Excellent argument.

Wow. Inbreeding has made them incapable of logical though.

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bbc out of thin air

Yeah pajeet/kike you have proven my point once again

Could be a Muslim woman

its over for your brothers and sisters in palestine

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It's just mutts law in full effect

youtu.be/xMeD-b4ndoE

Redpill: Islam is the Pale(Translated green) Horse of revelations.

Islam is the literal army of Satan. I wholeheartedly believe that Islam is the mental state of the Antichrist, and the physical form will soon take lead as a global leader for Jihad against the Jews and the west. We will see all those young muslims in the EU and the US band together and create terror cells and grow more and more unhinged as a whole.

I always saw Islam as foreign, evil, achaic, even demonic. It breeds a culture of subhuman behavior beyond anything else not even found in the darkest and deepest nigger Jungles in africa.

muslims constantly persecuted in their own lands yet somehow Muslims will become the antichrist army

The trinity is the anti Christ.

This thread is made by a group of Pajeets on Discord. You can notice this from the number of American VPN flags and the constant BBC fetish posting

I always saw Islam as foreign, evil, achaic, even demonic

Not Hitler though. He thought that of Judaism and the jews in Evropa!

I always saw Islam as foreign, evil, achaic, even demonic

Thats what they are saying about nazi Germany you know

hitler, jews and islam

you mean the guy that built the 5star jewish summercamps to protect every jew in europe from bullets and stuff?
and islam supported it, according to you.
based

He is basically a warlord that went around raping, killing, pillaging

stop it, you are going to make me a muslim

Seriously how do Muslims defend their prophet? He is like the most amoral man in existence. There is nothing admirable about him. He is basically a warlord that went around raping, killing, pillaging. He is opposite in every way to Jesus.

i pause my dislike of the towels and sand niggers until the last jew is destroyed.
nothing matters when the jew roams free.

lol you niggers got absolutely smoked by the leaf, actually embarrassing is this IDF's best and finest? low iq mongoloids i spit on your entire bloodline

Because Hitler loved war and was a Anti-Christ of his time.

i liked you better with the leaf flag

Literally just woke up and opened this thread for giggles because the back and forth is usually entertaining.

You guys got bitched by 1 dude, embarrassing for you, I wouldn't pay you your salary desu.

why is muhammad white?

Some say it didn't happen (which means they're no true sunnis as they dont believe sahih al-bukhari hadiths)

Some say he did indeed fuck a 9 years old kid but that it's okey because it was the norm in that era (which is stupid because he was supposedly receiving universal and intemporal truth from God itself)

Some just say God is okay with pedophilia and it's Western moral that is flawed (which is consistent at least but kinda cringe)

Some say it didn't happen (which means they're no true sunnis as they dont believe sahih al-bukhari hadiths)

Broken argument, many Sunni's believe that the Hadiths are fallible, and certainly some have been fabricated and hijacked.