But (You) wont, you don't want to take it to the supreme court you want to continue to misinterpret it, scream about the constitution, while simultaneously violating it on a daily basis. (You) hate America and everything it represents.
SOURCE: congress.gov
Amendment XIV
Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION THEREOF
Illegal aliens are SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION of whatever country they fled this is why when they are deported they are deported to the country they ORIGINATED from and not all of the ones that they passed through on the way to ILLEGALLY HOP THE BORDER which is a CRIME.
inb4 but if they kill someone they can be charged with murder in the United States
Read pic related, these are the AUTHORS of the 14th Amendment discussing this.
I've been saying this for years. No one in their right mind would think that if the Soviet ambassador to the UN brought his pregnant wife to NYC with him, and she gave birth, that the kid would be a US citizen.
For centuries, citizenship of a child was determined by the citizenship of the parents.
Illegal aliens are SUBJECT TO THE JURISDICTION of whatever country they fled this is why when they are deported they are deported to the country they ORIGINATED from and not all of the ones that they passed through on the way to ILLEGALLY HOP THE BORDER which is a CRIME.
This. "jurisdiction" for citizenship is different than "jurisdiction" for justiciable events (in the court system, that is)
They desperately do NOT want this to go to SCOTUS because they know they will lose. It's really just common sense, but not only that you have actual intent written on congress.gov from the AUTHORS of the 14th amendment for all to read.
Read this Supreme Court case oyez.org
The Supreme Court ruled in Wong Kim Ark's favor, stating that his birth within U.S. territory, subject to its jurisdiction, automatically made him a U.S. citizen
I accept your concession
That case specifically states that the parents had "recognized permanent residence" thus they were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who held GREEN CARDS.
If the parents are Temporary Visa holders, or ILLEGAL MIGRANTS the CHILDREN ARE NOT U.S CITIZENS PERIOD.
Green Card holders make up <20% of the total amount of shitskins in the US who have flooded over the border. I am OK with deporting 80%+ of them, are (You)?
That case specifically states that the parents had "recognized permanent residence" thus they were LEGAL IMMIGRANTS who held GREEN CARDS.
Children of "legal migrants" should stil not be allowed to beget citizens.
During the Biden catastrophe, the government was literally flying "illegals" here on our dime, and created an app so illegals could make an appointment to come here illegally. So are they illegal if the government abetted their coming here?
So at best interpretation the kid is born as a US citizen, but that doesnt mean that citizenship suddenly extends to the parents.
They can go back.
If they want to leave the kid in an orphanage or adoption, it can stay.
Or it can go with its parents as a minor and return as an adult citizen when 18yo.
Simples.
Mexican American from California here
Yes I am. My ancestors fought in the U.S civil war.
I agree but I am willing to accept deporting 85%+ of all migrants in the next 4 year, that is an acceptable number for me.
fought for the Union
fuck right off
Procreating or transporting children for the sole purpose of receiving citizenship should be considered human trafficking.
Here is more from the 39th congress discussing the 14th amendment before the vote to enshrine it in the Constitution.
You stupid Indian! They also fought for the south.
Never will happen. The kikes have pulled every degenerate thing imaginable out of 14A, you think they’ll just let it all unravel?
They don't have a choice. Israel tried to kill Trump and failed.
read the sentence above the highlighted one, nigger brains
ignore the context
read the headline
lmfao
be American
go to Canada
start stabbing pajeets
get arrested
"you can't arrest me, grifters on xhitter told me I'm only subject to the jurisdiction of the country I'm a citizen of"
Retard
You will be arrested and DEPORTED because you are NOT a Canadian Citizen and are under the jurisdiction therof the United States of America.
No it doesn’t. Cope and seethe.
AI slop written by Judenstein
lmfao
The act of being deported proves i am subject to the jurisdiction of the Canadian government while i am within their borders you mouth breathing retard
Huh. I have never heard of that part before.
The fact that you are being deported proves that you are NOT under the FULL jurisdiction of the Canada. Some OTHER COUNTRY claims you as its CITIZEN.
be American
go to Canada
stab pajeets
get deported
"You can't deport me, retarded leftists told me I deserve years of trials and appeals and taxpayer support in a country where neither I nor any of my ancestors paid taxes to and eventual relocation to Alberta"
Retard
The modifier
“ this will not of course include persons born in the United States who are foreigners, aliens”, illiterate nigger.
Then why is Trump fighting the Supreme Court on this right now?
npr.org
I've been saying this for years.
And you have been wrong the entire time. Diplomats and their families are not subject the the jurisdiction of the United States.
And your one exception does not prove the rule.
Trump isn't fighting the supreme court, retard
Trump is trying to take the case to the supreme court to settle the matter of Citizenship once and for all and he knows he will WIN.
It is (You) who is trying to prevent Trump from getting his case heard in the Supreme court. See here this is because (You) are terrified of what it means WHEN HE WINS which he WILL.
The only based fighters were the Bushwhackers
Thanks for confirming that the Supreme Court recognizes anchor babies as citizens. He won’t overturn it because the 14th amendment is clear to anyone with basic reading comprehension
supreme court recognizes anchor babies as citizens
where?
getting sloppy Abe. This isn't even a good argument. Thought you kikes had slippier minds than this.
They have no leg to stand on.
Let’s start grandfather clauses and kick out all the kikes . Anyone serving in armed forces/ military X years gets citizenship for their family members
RETROACTIVE ADOPTION OF THE NATRUALIZATION ACT OF 1790!
This is correct, they are not citizens. Nor are any of their children. Or their children's children. Etc.
It’s the legal precedent. Show me one time in the last 100 years that their citizenship was revoked
Correct, they would have to trace their lineage back BEFORE 1866 and then they would subject to the Naturalization Act of 1790 which is even MORE clear about who is a citizen and who is not.
legal precedent
where? Show me the case.
So far you have shown me that PERMANENT RESIDENTS (Green Card Holders) have precedence but that is not the topic of discussion, the discussion is about ILLEGAL MIGRANTS AND THEIR ANCHOR BABIES the topic is about TEMPORARY VISA HOLDERS AND THEIR ANCHOR BABIES.
(You) have no arguments and (You) are TERRIFIED to argue this in court because (You) know (You) WILL LOSE.
It’s the legal precedent. Show me one time in the last 100 years that their citizenship was revoked
We've never had to deal with such a widespread treasonous issued problem before. But it's clear they're not citizens. So the law must be executed.
Actually its never been clarified.
In Wong Kim Ark, as has been pointed out in this thread, which you ignored, Wong's parents were permanent residents. That means there is plenty of ground to declare everyone else was never a citizen.
We'll then probably grant those people whom we mistakenly allowed here a path to real citizenship, but the door will close forever.
SCOTUS will absolutely rule against birthright citizenship.
they have been greatly overrated with all the astroturfing and nepotism
aclu.org
Why was this executive order even needed in the first place?
(You) all are retarded
Why was this executive order even needed in the first place?
Because the bureaucracy has been acting illegally.
(You) all are retarded
But you haven't been able to counter the arguments being explained to you. Maybe this is why your jimmies are becoming ruffled.
The POINT of the Executive Order is to get the question pushed all the way to the supreme court, this is exactly what (You) don't want to happen which is why (You) are stalling and delaying and trying to prevent it from ever being heard by SCOTUS because (You) know that (You) will LOSE.
lol keep me posted. Two more weeks
Court Date for SCOTUS is set for May 15th, 2025
COPE AND SEETHE
Because the bureaucracy has been acting illegally
More likely that your understanding of the law is wrong. You can’t show me any court cases that support your arguments
Unfathomably based. Also the Mr. Howard in question. en.m.wikipedia.org
You can’t show me any court cases that support your arguments
It's very straightforward to understand English. Especially crystal clear sentences explaining meanings so there's no myster. The OP image has the declaration in crystal clarity. There's no need for a third party or a judge to tell us what it means since we understand how to read English.
can someone explain why destinyfags aren't treated like the other e celeb scum that brigade pol?
The Supreme Court is going to revoke the citizenship of millions of people who’ve lived here their whole life. You’re high
The Supreme Courts job is to INTERPRET the Constitution, it is crystal clear in this case what
jurisdiction therof
means
Is that your argument? That the Justices will NOT uphold the US Constitution if that's the case then you are really screwed.
Not a single constitutional scholar believes that dude. It’s all political theater.
Nobody should be deported from America.
In fact, the word “deport” is a bit misleading. America hasn’t been settled yet, anyone in the world can come there and claim it. It’s not a sovereign country in conventional means. America belongs to everyone.
Believes what "dude"? That the constitution exists, "dude"?
The clause is so clear and the courts have been misinterpreting it for a 100 years but us chuds know what it really means
TAKE IT TO SCOTUS
(You) wont though
Just wanna see the expert in constitutional law that believes what you do. Surely that should be easy for you.
Why would I need to take it to them? It’s already the law of the land.
It's not though
The law of the land as it stands is the case you provided which offers precedence for PERMANENT RESIDENCE and the transcripts of the 39th congress which I have provided BOTH OF WHICH SUPPORT MY ASSERTION THAT ILLEGAL MIGRANTS AND TEMPORARY VISA HOLDERS ARE NOT CITIZENS AND NEITHER ARE THEIR ANCHOR BABIES.
You have no arguments. You are defeated.
Yes, without due process of law.
The law has determined these people are akin to foreign invaders and it's actually, like, super cool and progressive that we're just sending them somewhere else instead of executing them outright or using them as slave labor
You'd know that if you actually had any compassion
Again explain why Trump needed to make an executive order to revoke their citizenship status and why that was overturned in the courts. Why did Trump campaign on ending anchor baby citizenship?
Now (You) are going in circles
It was better when (You) were attempting to appeal to authority at least that was a new low for (You) to reach, moishe.
Deflecting because you can’t answer the question. Sad
May 15th, I know (You) are dreading the day.
It's the day the "Melting Pot" dies.
Please post after that decision so I can make fun of you
The Supreme Court is completely compromised.
It doesn't matter what they bring to SCOTUS.
They are not IMPARTIAL, they are bias and the bulk of government employees are well in the Kalegri race replacement horseshit.
I want Trump to completely ignore SCOTUS and reform the Judicial.
Fuck it pack the courts even.
Lol you have gotten completely BTFO in this thread. You are dead wrong. We all collectively accept your concession.
we
(You) have no arguments
This is the most reddit statement I've seen in a while.
Anyway, It doesn't matter what SCOTUS says. The president is mandated to execute the law as it's written and if Congress does not impeach the president then that's two branches of government checking the rogue third one. This is a very straightforward matter. Illegal alien babies are not citizens, per the law.
The only purpose of SCOTUS in this case is to produce FURTHER precedence. The Law as it stands already supports my argument that Temporary Visa Holders and ILLEGAL Migrants and their offspring are NOT U.S Citizens. The intent and meaning of the 14th amendment is clear as can be found in the numerous screenshots and the link I have provided to the record of the 39th congress in REAL TIME as they were writing the 14th. The United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898) builds upon that and offers FURTHER PRECEDENCE to support my arguments.
The opposition has NO ARGUMENTS.
This is correct
If I go to your house and take a shit in your kitchen. That turd now belongs to you. You have to clean it up. Same applies to anchor babies. They are US citizens and we have no choice but to flush them or leave them where they are, but they're ours now.
BUMP
(You) have no arguments
we finally did it we overturned birthright citizenship
150 years later
after the nation's demographics have been irreversibly altered for all eternity
It will be hard to enjoy the victory
Non-citizens can and will be deported.
I hope they expand ICE or something.
I'd love to take a job rounding these people up.
We need more manpower unless he's trying to get them to leave voluntarily.
Trump plans to use every police department and the US military to accomplish mass deportations.
I rather work with the Sheriff dept over a cop but I've considered trying.
Sheriff department people are all way cooler I heard everyone thinks they're assholes that's part of the reason I'd rather work with them.
They also regularly drive 15 over in their vehicles around here lmao.
I'm not ex military though and they all have a boner for that.