WHY WONT WOMEN ADMIT THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO MY HARD ANGULAR BODY
EVERY SINGLE GUY AT THE GYM SAYS IM HOT
WHY WONT WOMEN ADMIT THEY ARE ATTRACTED TO MY HARD ANGULAR BODY
EVERY SINGLE GUY AT THE GYM SAYS IM HOT
the photo on the right makes him look tiny, dysproportional also the smile on the right is totaly fucking low T giga depressed for some reason.
roidtrannies gymrats been very quiet since this dropped
DO THIS EVERY WOMAN LOVES IT
NO DON'T DO THAT EVERY WOMAN HATES IT
no matter which you're still forever alone
Just stop listening to dating advice on twitter.
So women actually like me being a fat fuck?
The guy on the left looks stronger, broader shoulders
If this were a thread about womens bodies, jannies would autosage this thread or outright delete it.
if the guy is too attractive he will cheat on her
I really hate bottom left phenotype. Just screams low to average IQ and psychopath to me. Vaguely arab even. The most mid tier white phenotype
I guess men are the real victims here
Stop listening to Anon Babbletards, and everything makes sense.
Women don't give a shit about build provided that you're not morbidly obese. Height and face are almost everything
Since the before guy isn't morbidly obese, it comes down to what's above the neck, and in the after pic, the guy's skin looks oily and his hair greasy. Cover their bodies, and you'll see that before dude looks better.
bottom left looks like it has brain damage
what white women want. anorexic as fuck, eat zero carbs, not even 1 grain of rice.
Normally you’d be safe in assuming the girls are lying, or at best, wrong because they lack self-awareness or the eloquence to explain things succinctly, but in this case, they are telling the truth.
Picrel is an excellent breakdown and translation of what the girls mean by “ick, he lifts”
The bold part is what is communicated by the guy on the right.
The guy on the left looks stronger, broader shoulders
for real...after all that training
Jesus, right looks both dehydrated and in starvation mode. It's like he cranked all the body sliders to the left except for musculature in a character creator.
15%-18% bodyfat is the sweetspot
Basically as much fat as you can have without having a gut and fat cheeks.
Whoever wrote this is a retard. All humans have had to train to become good. No exceptions. The woman is a retard too.
the smile indicates hes one of them gays
The girls don’t care if you cheat. Infact, “cheating” is a misnomer if we’re talking a man fucking other women. It is not breech of contract in the way a woman cheating is. Cheating, for a man, is more like failing to provide, and failing to protect.
The girls are totally fine with sharing men, actually. They think of cheating as no big deal. They will defend their own cheating and whorishness by saying things like “it happened in the past, it doesn’t matter”, or “it was just sex, it didn’t mean anything”, because this is their honest appraisal of cheating and they incorrectly assume that we feel the same way about it.
And the final and most damning evidence that the girls don’t care if you cheat is that they when they get cheated on, they never kill anyone.
They might not be stoked on it, because the presence of another woman may lead to an ultimatum if the man can only support, or is only allowed to take, one wife. This could cost a woman her mate. But that’s where “it’s just sex, it doesn’t mean anything” comes from. No emotional investment in the other woman is a-ok. It is not introducing a new round of sexual compeititon which the woman may lose. So it’s all good
I think you are actually retarded
”train to become good”
In what?
At looking good naked
you are delusional, hes spot on.
elaborate you copey rat
he looks better before because the weight loss highlighted his ugly face/more fat hid his ugliness more & looks more bald.
Top left
Imagine how huge his head would look on a normal body
this is what bro and lifting culture teaches men - women love gym bros - no they dont. They love assholes, sociopaths and all around bad hombres. She asked him if he lifts and he totaly thought it will an occasion to brag. He shouldve respond.
wanna suck on them?
or
nah, I just do a couple of pushups in the morning
He answered and revealed his insecurity. Thats why she got the ick.
the bold stuff is the sourest of grapes
there isn't a single human being on the planet that looks Anon Babble without training
the subhuman writer is just coping with the fact an acceptable physique will just never happen for him (because of his shit genes)
But what does it mean to look “good”. Who decides this? What is beautiful (in a woman) is determined by my dick, for example. And what looks good in men is determined by women’s tingles, which have always been present even before weightlifting was a thing. It’s not the case that all men are repulsive unless they lift. Given the choice, women would choose the man who is naturally large and formidable over the guy who autistically adheres to an exercise and diet plan.
They might not be stoked on it, because the presence of another woman may lead to an ultimatum if the man can only support, or is only allowed to take, one wife.
yes that's the problem, they drop weight and find a mistress, then realize how awful their wife is and leave
this was the pattern with chris watts, he dropped 50 lbs, got an anal slut and was ready to drop his whole family into oil barrels
you know it, I know it, but women don't know it. Its not the problem that he lifts, but the problem he admitted it. She realy hoped he is a prime athlete not that he goes to a room full of sweaty dudes to touch pipes.
Well, yeah, but the insecurity is downstream of a lack of sexual success, hence his lifting to overcome it.
The correct answer is always “oh it’s just genetics”
The reason why women prefer the one on the left is obvious to anyone who has ever had a girlfriend.
Woem want to feel protected, and they want to cuddle.
Some one storng can protect you or make you feel protected. Some one soft is fun to cuddle. Man on left is both soft and strong, man on right is just strong. Hence it is slightly worse. Still far better than a greasy skinny fat incel, but worse than the version of the dude on the left.
Bale ate nothing but apples for that body.
of course
He has too low fat percentage on the left, now it looks like he has aids or is a recovering alcoholic. He should increase the percentage by some points and he will look better.
there isn't a single human being on the planet that looks Anon Babble without training
Oh boy, every nigger in Africa who isn’t emaciated would like a word with you. Im the guy who wrote that up and I’m a total couch potato NEET with very decent musculature for my sedentary life. Always have been like this.
got an anal slut
Whoa, lmao. Is this actually confirmed? Was it an anal slut that made him kill his family?
Top left's body is great. Fuckin' warrior
When you stop falling for her bullshit
What movie is picture on the left from?
not politics
slide thread
dumb niggers still engage the leaf
Fo real?
I should start doing that as well
My manboobs and belly are too big
yes, they got her computer and found her search history
It's because hes wearing a speedo in photo number two and you can see how nonexistent his package is. His balls are so small he could get in the special dicklympics for the smaller endowed male
I can also see them having a bigger problem with it as they age out of desireability. If any head to head contest with a younger woman, they are bound to lose. But their antagonism is different from ours. Theirs is a fear of losing their mate, and as long as they don’t lose, they’re fine. Our beef with cheating, aside from the grug-brain paternal uncertainty, is that it’s a total betrayal, spit in the face, woman went and became a whore for some other man, knowingly pissing away a marriage for dick (was it really that much better than mine?), etc. it’s just way more of a dagger in the heart for us.
Never listen to the opinion of women older than maybe 15+
Before that they might be honest, after that everything they say is a lie spouted to try and improve their own hand while weakening yours.
And ironically, even if what she said were true (it's not), it would still be in your best interest to look like the guy on the right.
According to that poll, 20% of women prefer it. Not anywhere close to 20% of men look like that though, probably less than 1%.
Also everyone calling him a roidtranny or whatever is retarded as shit. All the guy did was spend 12 weeks on his cut. All the muscles already existed on the left too, they were just hidden under the fat from his bulk.
Lmfao. What a nice, clean asshole will do to a man.
I truly don’t understand how he found himself in that situation and concluded that his best course of action is to MURDER HIS FAMILY. Has that stupid nigger ever heard of divorce? Or going out for cigarettes and never returning? How can you kill your own family?
women dont want men that are more attractive than they are because it will make them insecure in public
the untrained medium-bodyfat slob-looking guy
holy shit they are retarded as fuck. the guy was already well trained on the left, too
Women exclusively select for men with the worst genes though, just look around irl and you see all the men with children are deformed and retarded cucks
My mistake, I made an error in wording it that way. I know he’s trained, but there is plausible deniability as the fat obscures the gainz.
Nah. Those are consequences of monogamy. Everybody fucks, so nothing can be selected for or against. They select for the best genes (prob those most fit in the low energy state of like, Eurasia, or something) when they can, and for money. The hottest women, whose dating pool is without limit, all opt for basically the same man. Tall, handsome, broad, rich.
what the fuck are you talking about? since 2015 my nation has been flooded with them, and they are all scrawny manlets
do they think guys with muscles started that way as a baby? this is so stupid
This contains deep wisdom about life and the average retard on this site cannot fathom it.
You see, these incels blame The Jew for corrupting women, when in reality the Jew merely gives the woman what she desires.
The woman wants chaos. Chaos is a fitness test. Males that cannot navigate chaos cannot navigate life. That's why women destroy while men create.
If we do nothing but live in the paradise our ancestors created, how can a woman distinguish between good and bad genes? When life is always and forever easy and threatless, where is the fitness test?
In war the female survives regardless of the victor. If her tribe wins, she lives and reproduces. If the invading tribe wins, she lives and reproduces. When the war is over, her pussy knows only the strongest males survived, regardless of which tribe one.
I'm not an eggspert
But I think getting divorced in America practically kills a man
Maybe if you're networth is zero and the judge demands 10 dollars a month in alimony
it's just the typical shit trying to argue that it's an "evolutionary decision" because he doesn't understand what evolution is.
evolution doesn't filter at individual conception, it filters over a long time. favorable genes spread over multiple generations, not within a single one.
if every female in a species selected for the exact same things, there'd be no evolution at all anymore, because evolution requires variety.
the retarded scenario he is talking about is a Fischerian-runaway into extinction.
Teaching evolution is a waste of time because the majority of them are too smooth-brained to even understand what it is.
Everything.
the same cunt that says men are scarier than bears wants me to tell her i get in fights all day like popeye
Too bad it's not the paleolithic anymore and women proved themselves to be complete utter retards, the niggers of sex
Incompatible with civilisation, once we achieve artificial birth, they should be shipped to Africa and build a huge wall around it, and the Africans should pay for it
Divorce rape though, is INFINITELY better than strangling your 2 small daughters and killing your pregnant wife and then getting ass-raped in prison for eternity. And how stupid must one be to think “yeah I can totally get away with familicide, I’m just that smart and cunning”. Chris Watts might be the stupidest and most evil man in the world.
No, it’s called puberty. Men develop muscles in puberty. Is this so unbelievable to you? Ofc they don’t look like the guy on the right, but they don’t need to, because more muscles =/= more pussy
Gee, it's almost like men and women are wired to find different things attractive.
The Machinist. Extremely underrated film.
They’re lying, you idiot. Were you born yesterday? They “picked the bear” because they’re signalling their vulnerability and desirability. They ENJOY letting everyone know, loudly, with their tits out, that they’re so desireable that men become reduced to feral creatures, speaking in grunts, abandoning social convention, and risking severe punishment just to get up in their holes.
Put if you put one caged man and one caged bear in front of them, and asked them to pick a companion for a walk through the woods, and they could hear helicopter blades whirring, they’d all pick the man.
And Yes, male violence puts them in heat.
He's lucky though. He has the magic gene that makes body fat distribute more or less evenly on his body. When anyone in my family gains fat it looks awful. Skinny in some places, sags upon sags in other places. Plus, some people's faces distort in bad ways with body fat.
But to the point, women like a strong, well-fed looking man because it signals to them that he has no problem securing resources. Simple biology, just like men and boobs, feeding offspring
..said no woman ever. Most woman simply aren't impressed by a roided out gym bro that spends all his time trying to grow his muscles for approval of other men at the gym
Too bad it's not the paleolithic anymore
You can still see it in action today. Women support mass importing of niggers to cause chaos and measure fitness.
They want our institutions and traditions destroyed to learn which males can live without them, and which males can establish new traditions.
I literally get more female attention since working out...
I'm natty and have more of an athletic build though
It’s women’s fault for lying so much now nobody believes anything they say
If those are the genes that get passed on, they are arguably at least decent genes.
When the war is over, her pussy knows only the strongest males survived, regardless of which tribe one.
Bingo. Chaos and a selection process to cull the herd IS ITSELF the win condition for women. They can’t lose.
Sometimes I think if the reason that women vote for open borders isn’t in some small way motivated by a primal, hivemind desire to light a fire under men’s asses and get them killing.
Cause remember that evergreen tweet:
”If the only immigrants America admitted were thick Latinas and petite Asians, White women would form SS units overnight.”
believing what women say when they know it will find its way into public realm
ngmi
women don't like peacocks. if you're prettier than her you'll likely get more attention than her which will annoy her. it's easier just to avoid women desu, dey krazy.
roided up gorilla
I bet he can't even run for 2 minutes without sounding like a broken tractor
I think this shit on the right activates a woman's gaydar, consciously or not.
who cares what women want , just fuck them and put a ring on it if you care so much.
they lie and cheat all the time anyhow , at least that´s my experience with them.
This is why polygamy is the way to go. You just expand your family horizontally
he looks like that on the left because he's already jacked on the left.
it's not that he has god-tier fat distribution or anything, it's just that he is strong and the muscles give his body an alright shape even with all the excess fat.
literally all the guy did from left to right was to shed fat.
if every female in a species selected for the exact same things, there'd be no evolution at all anymore
This shows that you don't understand evolution. You don't think squirrels and dragonflies don't go for the same things in a mate every generation? You think they prefer variety? Looks like evolution has ground to a halt for every sexually reproducing species except humanity, right retard?
t. Anthro undergrad degree
Merely going to the gym is not an insurmountable demerit, it’s just that the ideal male physique is not roided and shredded, as all gymbros seem to think. The reason everybody goes to the gym now is because it does increase perceived fighting success, and so it’s a sexual strategy that actually works, but even better is it you obscure the fact that you lift while retaining that increase in PFS. Then you look like you’re a man apart, that you don’t need to go to the gym. Alphadestiny on YouTube called this “Bear Mode”. He’s a bit of a pretentious clown, but he was right about this.
you have been so mentally buckbroken by feminism that you see then as these godlike creatures who control evolution, kek
in reality, they could all shag the same CEO gigashad and carry his offspring, and then it turns out that he had a genetic heart problem and they all die.
there's a reason you retarded dipshit never made is past undergrad, which is just glorified highschool nowadays.
The angle of the photos makes him look a head shorter in the right image
I’m undecided on polygyny. How do you even defend a harem when firearms exist? Any incel can buy a gun and kill you and redistribute your women. Say the average harem size is 3. Then 2 in 3 men are going without sex. wtf do you do about them? What do they do all day? Surely they’re not gonna work or contribute or play by the rules.
The only way to improve facial attractiveness and thus become a "good person" to women is either
1) cosmetic surgery.
2) murdering the more attractive men.
Then you will be a "good person" to women, and also a triumph of objective morality. :^)
There's also the less violent, benign solution, of taking away women's rights and returning to a more traditional society but that's not progressive. :^)
The explanation here is correct and it will cause seething.
Women are attracted to good genetics in a way that men cannot comprehend.
Capacity for violence, ability to secure resources, fertility, social and mental fitness. It all makes incredibly good sense once you realize that if they DIDN'T constantly shit-test mates, the quality of the species would plummet.
Am I correct in assuming the North Star of any sexually selective female is to maximize her reproductive output indirectly through her son, bevause female fertility is low, more or less fixed, and guaranteed. so would it not make sense that the things they’d end up selecting for would be those traits most likely to yield a sexually successful son? and does this not explain why we and other mammals generally select for size and strength, since in nature, male on male competition rewards size and strength?
Jewish hands typed this
it will cause seething
Already has. A couple guys called me retarded. But there are some anons in here with a good head on their shoulders who can see the truth in it.
this is stupid because they are both gym rats
one photo is while bulking and the other while cutting
I suggest that girls don’t really care if you cheat, and this means I’m Jewish? Please, I’m dying to know how you conclude this. Is this Jewish subversion? What could I possibly be trying to accomplish?
they are
It's the same guy. And the problem isn't even his face looking worse due to losing weight but lighting and angle.
if tomorrow gyms around the world magically disappear. homosexuality in the world would also end.
So women actually like me being a fat fuck?
a little fat is fine. women love to cuddle and do gay shit like that. being a little bigger is fine. women don't want dudes obsessed with lifting. it's a red flag. also kind of gay.
Another thing. I suspect resistance to explanations like this that paint women as unthinking eugenics automatons all running the same software is religious in a way. In the way religion seeks to satisfy the highest order imperative of self-preservation (everlasting life), the bluepill offers a model of the sexual market that leaves open the possibility of sexual success of any man by denying the existence of SMV entirely or suggesting that it is malleable. “There is something you can do, that won’t cost you anything, to become attractive to women.” And crucially, it says that mating behavior is non-deterministic, so charts and figures and stats on cheering and what not do not apply.. This satisfies the 2nd highest order imperative (to fuck). That, and nobody wants to think of the women in their lives in this way. You want to think your wife/gf is different, that your daughter will be different, etc.
All I know is I got hit on by good-looking women a lot more after I added 50 lbs of muscle to my frame. I went from skinny to jacked. YMMV.
He's looks (and probably is) weaker in the second photo, and the focal length doesn't help
the after photo is garbage so it's going to bias the discussion
the guy is a z-list celebrity here so there's plenty more photos to find for comparison
Tbh it’s hard to evaluate them unless it was 2 twin brothers standing next to eachother. Scale matters here, quite a bit.
It’s also super gay to shave your chest. Anons, never do that.
You posted that image while complaining about women struggling with succinct explanations?
Most women are basically children in adult bodies. Look at these two toys and imagine them being offered to a little girl. Which one appeals to her more?
Have you ever met a woman?
What does the toy for children have to do with your first assertion?
AHAHAHAHA
cannot gym yourself a new face
Dadbods give them the shlick.
So this is what the "man or bear" discourse was actually about
I know a lot of former fatties and nerds who got into body building and lifting shit in general thinking it'll get them laid, meanwhile when I was a scrawny emo kid I pulled more girls then they could ever hope of doing. The funniest thing is watching the gymbros seethe watching a girl going for a scrawny pretty boy, best thing in the world.
Women look primarily at the face, you can fix and hide the body's imperfections aside from height but the face is nigh impossible to "improve" while retaining a sense of naturalness.
This guy's facial features actually look worse after reducing the small amount of bodyfat that initially gave it a balance, just look at the jaw and sides of his head to compare it.
Of course the picture on the right also just looks bad, he should've shot it with the same lighting as the picture on the left for a favorable comparison but you can't expect normgroids to think about that aspect.
It doesn't matter how much you lift or improooove.
The face is paramount. Women will even go down an inch of height or penis size for a good face.
This is the brutal reality normalfags and especially gymcels refuse to face.
Too bad it's not the paleolithic anymore
roflmao, good luck out there buddy
Beat and rape women or you're not worthy of being a Hindu Aryan.
genes are potential..
Your malnourished ass isn't going to be having bulging biceps just because you have the genes for it..
Face make you attractive, not body.
God damn it guys, women have different tastes in men just like men have different tastes in women.
For almost all of human history men that looked like the guy on the left were seen as warriors and fathers. The guy on the right looks like an alien OR a gay concubine.
Women are primarily attacted to men who are built like a fridge; rectangular, wide, and capable of motion (not fat). "Brick shithouse" is the term that comes to mind.
Guy on the left would go from a 8/10 to 3/10 if you just remove the smiling demeanor as well. Smiling is the biggest buff a man can get in terms of attractiveness.
Its the same shit as lip filler. I have never ever met a man that thinks it lools good. Also very long nails
Just screams low to average IQ and psychopath to me.
And that's exactly why women find it hot.
women on the pill arent attracted to masculine men, this is a well studied and proven phenomenon, see justin bieber when he was young. who would have thought it could be a bad idea to put almost half the population on hormones? absurd!
jaw is law, no gym for your face
That's not what the numbers show, I don't know why you and OP are pretending they say otherwise.
SENATOR
This is the body transformation jews want for american men
"he can't reject me i don't want him"
But working out literally changes your genetics, your children would naturally pick up lifting easier if you've been lifting all your life. It's called epigenetics, yet another subject women are apparently retarded at even when trying to act smart and writing an essay over this stupid shit.
this is easy to understand. are you attracted to muscle-bound women? probably not.
i doubt any woman would complain about their man looking like the right, but they also don't really care. for one - if you're actually attractive, it doesn't matter what you do in the gym, and two - women are already physically unattracted to most men. women are attracted to a man's wealth more than anything. even the most hideous of men (see Bill Belichick) can get prime pussy with enough money.
women are attracted to what I am
check out the gay boy
You are getting laughed at so much because you do not understand reality on even its most basic level.
People will say this is retarded and then get angry at women who wear makeup
All humans have had to train to become good
if the "training" consists of actual, real manual labor, sure. if it's targeting, for example, the biceps and triceps in order to get definition, with a carefully cultivated diet to maintain a certain percentage of bodyfat, etc. etc. it's appears strange and uncanny, not healthy
Nobody gives a shit about potential to have big bulging biceps. What makes you think the girls are as tunnelvisioned into bulging biceps as you are?
it is retarded. it is purely undesirable women preemptively rejecting men they never had a chance with to avoid the reality that they would never have a chande because they are a disgusting slob. It's them psyoping men into being disgusting slobs too because fat lazy women are too fat and lazy to not be fat disgusting slobs. simple.
All of my detractors are wrong. You hate me because I’m telling you the truth. Yes, your beloved gym, the thing you thought was a free looksmax that would yield you an ocean of pussy, is not as valuable as you think it is. It can not hold a candle to the raw genetic quality the girls crave. Cope and seethe, faggot.
It can not hold a candle to the raw genetic quality the girls crave
Obviously you retard. However it certainly will increase the chances of genetically inferior. Only cope will deny this fact.
I promise you women are genuinely less attracted to the one on the right
which women?
Nobody is saying not to lift, and nobody is saying that lifting is a NET NEGATIVE on your SMV. Just that when if you have 2 men equal in every way, with equivalent fighting success, the guy whose fighting success is a function of his genes will win everytime. So you can see how girls can get wide-eyed and excited at the prospect of quality cum, only to be disappointed when they learn it’s not actually quality cum, it’s a gym membership.
Women would drag their vaginas through miles of broken glass to be the last in line to suck the dick of a man they have no chance with. What the fuck are you talking about? “Durr he’s intimidating and hawt, that’s why they pretend not to like him”. They all crave Chad, there are no mind games being played here.
You are vastly overestimating womens ability to judge character
And apparently it isn’t obvious because you and 50 other smoothbrains in this thread have called me retarded for pointing this out.
Your mom, sister, gf, wife, daughter, all of them, crave to be the property of violently capable, feral men. Cope with that.
I know the term is overused, but incel logic is seriously retarded. What about the effort and commitment required to continuously, regularly do something difficult for an extended period of time? Is that irrelevant because it's a part of a sExUaL sTrAtEgY? What about being willing to approach women, make jokes and be personable? Also a sexual strategy, gosh I guess the only solution to being an incel is to kys, billions must seethe impotently like a pathetic beta bitch.
You're letting fat women on twitter tell you what to think, cuck
I bet he can't even run for 2 minutes
What are you running away from you stupid nigger retard?
What about the effort and commitment required to continuously, regularly do something difficult for an extended period of time?
Meant to say what about the genetics that led to doing the above.
And you weight as much as a coat hangar "running boy", your upper body is literally a pancake, worthless.
Nobody gives a fuck about character, that’s why the girls can’t judge for shit. Because it’s not a thing they select for. It’s money and looks bro. There is no third sexual currency. It’s not personality, it’s not character, it’s not discipline or intelligence or whatever. The sum total of your value to women is composed only of looks and money.
What girls DO select for and what we think they SHOULD select for (things convenient for us, changeable things) are two different things.
I'm a man and I think he looked better on the left. He looks naturally strong, muscular, and healthy there. The bodybuilder thing always looked weird and unnatural to me, which I guess it is since you have to engage in very specific exercise and dieting programs to look like that.
Specifically, and in particular, extremely attractive women who get to choose exactly who they want to have sex with.
Damn dude, I can't tell if you're a crab in the bucket autist, or a fox and grapes faggot.
Gymcels really are such fags. But OP is the one who posted a pic of a shirtless dude. You guys that keep posting pics of shirtless muscle dudes are all a bunch of fags
Saw the reverse of this where women were in denial that men prefer natural over implants and BBL
muscle building and fat burning is primarily a function of genetics. The men who build muscle the easiest naturally are generally going to be better fighters, athletes, and more aggressive overall due to higher T levels, on average.
I’ve been both and got way more pussy as the chubbier version. Just my 2 cents.
Yes bro it’s irrelevant. Completely. Nobody gives a shit. Imagine I show you some 35 year old millionaire girlboss and remark at how intelligent, driven, confident, etc she is. Do you give a shit? No. You’re wondering about what her ass and tits look like and lamenting that she’s post-wall. You’re wondering how many dicks she’s sucked. In the case of the gym, effort and commitment don’t really mean anything since it’s sort of a given that if the reward is sex, men will expend any amount of energy. It’s kind of the whole point of getting out of bed in the morning.
”just make jokes bro! Just be funny and have a good personality”
I am arguing with a child, or worse, a Redditor.
Idk what to make of this thread
I’m currently at 13-14% bodyfat and will probably just maintain that, try to gain more muscle if possible
The genetics that led to doing the above, as in, the animating force behind it, is just the desire for sex. This is a constant among men so not really something that can be selected for or against.
Nah character is definitely an aspect, it just isn't the wholesome "women care about personality and are therefore perfect angels who aren't shallow at all" bs that they all claim. Women want a man who is bold, confident, powerful, charismatic etc. These things are attractive and that isn't debatable. The thing is, they don't like a strong personality because of the person that it comes from, if that makes sense. They like the personality because of what it has to offer them (protection, stability, entertainment, money, etc).
for some reason
the sole reason for all this retarded hype is camera lens angle
now let's watch it being ignored and hype bait continue
right, thats the demographic of a twitter poll?
crabs in a bucket
Who am I trying to pull down? I don’t give a shit what others do. I enjoy thinking about this stuff for its own sake.
sour grapes
I have long given up on life and will probably rope this year. That’s why I’m a couch potato NEET. But I used to lift in my teens, I enjoyed it very much, and I do have excellent muscle building genetics. This is not me coping about not being shredded and jacked.
If it's a constant among men then why aren't you doing it? Because you lack the drive, and that's why you're a loser.
abloobloo you're a child because I'm a dickless faggot who can't be assed to make something of himself
Just kill yourself already you waste of space
I have long given up on life and will probably rope this year
funny, i went to the gym and now women suddenly want to touch my pee pee and i feel better about myself (unrelated)
got way more pussy as the chubbier version
this is also true. When you get too lean and muscular, you start to look too perfect in a way that becomes off-putting. You become nice to look at but almost like an effigy. Most women don't possess the self esteem to deal with you especially past age 25. You get stared at, commented on, catcalled, touched and grabbed, but no woman takes you seriously. You get a lot more shit tests too, its odd.
None of those things can be defined independently of looks and prior sexual success.
In the case of personality, it’s literally been empirically proven that when you plot x = looks and y = personality and have women rate men separately on both, then x=y.
gym bros attract gym bunnies. regular ugly blob women who have never exercised in their life like prefer some more fat. the stupid whore women needs to stop trying to speak for all women
I had some arterial blockage in my pudendal artery and this led to an ischemic event in my dick 2 years ago. I now have nerve damage and a good chunk of the spongiosum has transformed into scar tissue. I can not feel my dick. I will never fuck again in my life. Thats why I don’t do anything. Otherwise I would lift, but I certainly would follow my own advice and not ADVERTISE the fact that I lift.
All this seethe
Retards, this is HOPIUM not a black pill, you can lift hard and women will like it, just don't admit you LIFT. Just lie and say "No I naturally look like this by sitting all day." even with 21 inch arms. Women are too retarded to tell otherwise.
”make something of yourself”
Determinism is anathema for everyone. Not just leftists. IRL you people would fucking kill me for suggesting such things.
Consider going Luigi Mangina
It’s incredible that this went over everyone’s head. In the last paragraph, I offer a suggestion on how to gymmax in the highest ROI way, one that nullifies the main demerit of gymmaxxing. I am FOR LIFTING . I am FOR sexual strategies. but part of a successful sexual strategy is playing it off as though you don’t engage in one.
The bottom right looks like a cocksucking faggot
Nah.
the photo on the right makes him look tiny, dysproportional also the smile on the right is totaly fucking low T giga depressed for some reason.
Right also looks like a narcissistic faggot. Very punchable face.
Left looks like a chill dude you’d want to have a beer with.
Wait...you retards thought it's not face first? Remember the mugshot of that nigger?
Exactly.
The moment you stop treating it casually is the moment women go into a drought so strong it killed 30 million in Africa.
retard on steroids
steroid retards arab friend
Regular homosexual
Skinny homosexual
Whiteknight cuck simping off the fucking charts right here
why arent women attracted to homosexuality
muscle building is primarily a function of genetics. Men who build muscle and burn fat the easiest while training are also those who are, on average, better athletes, fighters, and are more aggressive with higher T levels. In fact, training in the gym is the only way to really see your genetic potential. Most men have dyel bodies months and years into lifting, even if they've gotten strong. The men who look like they lift are either genetically superior or on steroids. Steroids is a huge problem because this does allow an otherwise low T male to look muscular in a way he otherwise never could. And since women cannot tell between steroid and nonsteroid users, the "ick" could be had in thinking that the guy COULD be using steroids.
Remember the mugshot of that nigger?
Jeremy Meeks?
Really my suggestion is to do 2 things.
1) lift
2) lie
Kek.
everywhere else was saying they preferred the before body. Twitter trannies larping as female accounts won't change that.
I'm a 3/10 and this year I've been given more numbers than all the fags in the gym next door put together.
How do I pick up women?
a) be likeable
b) look like a genetically modified breeding bull
It's the same as the bimbo women with 120 operation because 'the more feminine, the better'.
There's two things wrong with the image. First, the lighting is bad on the right, second, NO Fat in nature means less successful aka more stress. He needs to not sink into the background, and he needs to wear white shorts. But yeah, for some men, getting Cut is going to look a bit like you're starving.
Also, 1 out of 20 isn't bad. You don't need every woman to be comfortable saying she likes you for your immediate appearance. You need to be comfortable with you. And if being cut does that, then get cut. Just don't starve yourself to do it, that's ruinous and misses the point of being strong.
Body building is a lot like owning a motorcycle, you think chicks are going to be into it but 99% of the people who approach you about it are men.
Bottom right is gay
White woman want white men with competence, intelligence, and confidence. Simple as.
Kike shills want to demoralize you and you to think that white woman are trash lusting after degeneracy, niggers, and dogs. None of that is true.
Virtually all men though have adequate genetic material to build muscle beyond the limits of what is naturally possible just, like, with puberty and nothing else. So anyone could be a pretender. There isn’t a real selection process happening among gymcels where if you manage to even LOOK like you lift, that this is proof of superior genetics.
I agree about the point on roids. Off topic, but I think men’s antanognism to other men using roids is indeed a crabs in a bucket thing. They don’t want to incur the cost of hopping on gear and so will never be able to keep up with the roiders. they feel the roiders are cheating.
You'll notice, if you pause, that the poll only covers about 31% of women. Where are the others?
They didn't even care to mention it, because appearances are Almost secondary to a woman.
Nah. That’s because white men overall have the highest SMV of all the races. There aren’t many better options. If a race of 7 foot tall gigachads materialized into existence, you’d see women of all races, white included, leaving their race for the gigachads.
Chris Watts honestly had no choice. Put yourself in his shoes. his girlfriend would literally spread her big brown poop hole and get it nice and stretched out so he could lube his weiner up with her butt cream and she would plop it down on that weiner and ride it till it made a fart vacuum in her butt cavity that literally would suck the sperm juice from his balls. He was so ass drunk after that he killed his family with his smelly poop wiener in his pants
I got curious enough to look up this OP guy and here this low t incel is with his ugly d grade wife
The girls don’t care if you cheat
No. What are you even posting about? Did they kick you out of shill academy and you’re freelancing now? You can’t even use words correctly.
When I walk out of the door and into the next store, I make every person I meet laugh or smile. Because I enjoy it myself. Women seem to like that.
That's all you need to be able to do.
if you make people feel good they like you.
unbelievably gay incel drivel
this shit is getting so grating to see everywhere now
le women had le tinder for millions le years le human evolution
They love assholes, sociopaths and all around bad hombres.
No. Only narcissistic extrovert women want that.
A trad woman wants a loyal trad man. She doesn’t want cheating chad who’s banged hundreds of sluts. Most men would rather have a 5/10 trad wife than a 9/10 slut. Women think the same way.
A woman wants a giving, loving, high trust man with honor and commitment to duty. One she can trust to build her life around, that will put her needs and the needs of the children above his own. A man that a woman can safely submit to, as all women hunger to do.
Wives want to instinctively submit to their husbands, but it’s a two sided commitment. The husband must commit his life to the wife and family. He must live and work and die for the benefit of the family. Good men do this instinctively, as is right and honorable. But the woman must submit to earn this dedication. But submission is not slavery, just a junior partner with the man having final authority.
Modern secularists dismiss this idea of morality as otherworldly superstition imposed by a killjoy clergy; but, in fact, Christian moral standards are the ultimate utilitarian for human conduct.
Ephesians 5:22-33
Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands as you do to the Lord.
In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.
However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.
Ya it’s true they don’t care. Not in the way we do. Marriages end and sometimes people get killed when women cheat. I call that “caring”. Nothing happens when men cheat. I call that “not caring”
Cry about it. Your dick and sperm just are not valuable enough for any woman to feel ownership over them and lose their shit when it’s given elsewhere.
Oh yeah that's him. How do you even remember his name lol.
Anyway the point is only his face was posted. Not his body, not his height, not his bank account...and women went crazy over him.
Tinder is a digital facsimile of the way your brain makes mating decisions, so yeah in a way, women have had tinder since the dawn of time.
Here’s some more gay incel drivel. The post in the middle highlighted in red is mine, talking about dating apps.
But what does it mean to look “good”. Who decides this?
In reality, your genes determine what looks good to you. Humans prefer their own race.
There's something called major histocompatibility complex I and II molecules, that inform us of a potential mate's immune profile, genetic drift/autsomal distance, and overall health. People also perspire steroid hormone derivatives, like androsterone and androstenol, that infrom us of a potential partner's endocrinological profile, fertility, and overall health.
So, we are evolutionarily predisposed to exhibit positive bias towards the genetically close, but not too similar, approx 4th cousins in distance.
He looks more natural here than in the absurd photo in your threadstarter - hopefully he’ll go back to his normal and most attractive look.
never cut. just permabulk
this just all feels like typical incel word salad where some guy on his computer chair wants to convince you that telling someone you have a healthy routine is unattractive
the reality is that twitter isn't a real place and any woman meeting seeing Olly would be attracted to his physical appearance, people just think the 2nd image looks worse because the lighting makes him look like bob the tomato.
He vlogs a lot and he will be gasping while just driving in the car or making something in the kitchen. He's mostly pretty chill and seems pretty smart but yeah he's def gonna die before 30
Have you even been to Africa? Africans are mostly tiny. American negroes were bred to be big.
that verbiage in particular
I think I encountered you some weeks ago in another thread. Similar things were being discussed. And I agree. But there is NEVER going to be any deviation in selection criteria among girls that pulls in, say, opposite directions. For example it’s not possible for some girls to prefer tall men and others to prefer short men. Other things can vary, but some are staples.
And for a male example, all men love feminine fat deposits, a high hip to waist ratio, lordosis behavior, youth, etc. we may disagree on some other things, but not everything.
The lighting is indeed bad, and the focal length of the lens affects him too, as does his shaved chest hair. But control for all of those and women will still prefer the guy on the left, provided they believe that he doesn’t lift.
Just lift, and then deny that you lift theory.
Women are attracted to body proportions of course, but to them desirability is mainly determined by status. Being fit isn’t good enough, it’s about how extraordinarily fit you are. Being autistic-gangly, short, strange, etc, is low-status and they don’t like it so only fat women will go for those because they have no other options. Having a white man in Asia is super high-status which is why you see these strange mis-matches. It’s about status with women.
Eh, yeah you’re right. Our niggers are oddly jacked on a diet of slop and exercise regimen of looting and running from cops and pack hunting unsuspecting Whites.
hopefully he’ll go back to his normal and most attractive look.
Thats a very gay sentence anon, he looks no different obviously the OP pic isn't flattering and the poll is 200 nobodies on twitter that no one should pay attention to.
Genes are what determine how well you lift you colossal retard. Do you even know what this thread is about? God you're thick.
what the fuck are you talking about? since 2015 my nation has been flooded with them, and they are all scrawny manlets
Correct. Africans are weak and scrawny. Whites are far stronger pound for pound. If you disagree, try fighting a nigger sometime. They’re woman strength. Indians are the same.
Any big niggers you see are 45% white admixture from slavery days.
Now define status without using the terms “looks” and “money”
Sorry, I now notice you’re not the threadstarter.
Which of the pics is the authentic and current one?
he can't because status is literally the umbrella under which everything else falls. Everything you are and do confers and informs status.
That’s still exactly the same point though since epigenetics is just methylation patterns and women select for the code itself, which is not altered by lifestyle changes (barring radiation exposure)
Not dark enough to be Arab
no intelligence
No woman will ever look at the class nerd and get wet that's for sure, but there is a high correlatuon between IQ and lifetime wealth
Bottom left
Sure
bottom right
That’s literally a ftm tranny
Genes alone can’t make you muscular, you need to fucking workout. You need to kill your self because of how retarded you are
you gonna post this every day?
you know Anon Babble exists right?
Correct. It’s not about this or that attribute, like it is with men; women want the total package, ie, status. As I said, being fit isn’t good enough, it;’s how extraordinarily fit, how much you stand out (in a good way) from other men. If you’re fit but are lacking in other areas women aren’t interested — but a guy like Elon Musk would be one of the most desirable men on the planet; even though his fitness isn’t great, the total package as a man is above almost everyone else on the planet. But when the media drags him down and makes hating more fashionable, his desireability drops immediately. That’s the way it is with women.
bottom left
He’s like 6’4” IIRC. But his wife is barely even a mid. Idk how something like this happens, lol.
That’s not the point at all. The girls select for genes, not musculature built in the gym.
You’re like the 50th guy to skim that post and ignore the last paragraph entirely. Go back, read it, and come back and apologize. I am FOR lifting. I am also FOR *lying* to the girls about lifting.
Running to the enemy what else you trog
You have never been with a white woman.
”Durr wet hole you can’t fuck”
Strong argument. are you a woman? This is typical of how women argue.
It's true. Before is close to ideal in a woman's perspective. Strong, but doesn't look like he obsesses over his physique. If you look like you can't eat a slice of pizza at a moment's notice without crying about calories and your meal plan, you're going to give femoids the ick.
hey Steve, we got a little BBQ going on, can I get you a plate?
ewww, no. I'm in a cutting phase, can't do carbs right now!
Women don't like that. And rightfully so, it's feminine.
Guy in the OP literally looks bigger on the left photo, so your autistic post is worthless.
Day 8 of the fat guy cope thread
An enormous amount of self soothing from guys that cannot powerclean 225 and also have a gut. Keep in mind the responses are anglosphere women on the internet so are likely 20% obese and 80% overweight.
It's not fat guy cope, the guy on the left is ALREADY physically fit.
If he had slouching posture, a gut, and wasn't smiling, he'd "look" like a loser.
Attractiveness to women isn't the same as men; women like guys who can press their weight down on them but also make them feel safe.
women only like physically fit violent men
In the same way guys are attracted to crazy girls who don't make for good long term partners, women are attracted to aggressive and violent men too.
But then on the other hand you have women who are kind and nurturing being attractive in a superior "higher mind" sense in the same way men who are good with humour can be.
Running to the enemy what else you trog
Then?
Women want to be hotter than their men. Simple as
This made me chuckle
Good job Anon
Running to the enemy what else you trog
I mean what fucking enemy nigger retard? You're actually assuming runners' purpose for running is for combat, which just proves you're a nigger retard living in a country where Marksmanship and the ability to Jog 100 yards are really all you need. You absolute chuddy coathangar weight shortass / or Pancake weight tall'e