What was the principle cause of the decline of the west?

Women voters, and legalization of child sacrifice.

The final redpill is realizing that Christianity is the truth and that satan is the temporary prince of this world. One just has to look at the absolute state of the West and when its lightspeed decline actually begun

Jews who have infiltrated the government higher echelon and have lobbied for ages for the implementation of policies that they knew were unsustainable in the long term for the sake of personal profit and intra and intercultural division which chaos would help in the hiding of their nefarious motives from the common folks.

The thing is they even gloat about it, you just need to hone your jewdar to pilpul semantics and it become evident. Ie it isnt that they promote mass immigration and predatory fiscal policies, its that provide better life opportunities for new potential arrivals and promote freer market policies for easy transfer of liquidities into foreign investment plans.

Aka same shit, different coat of pain.

From the thumbnail I thought it was an aspiring alcoholic in front of a rack of liquor bottles, but it's much worse.

Christianity of course. Semite worship paved the way for liberalism which got us here. Never worship brownoids.

You know that "Faustian spirit" you always hear far right "intellectuals" always prattling on about?
The corollary to that as per the Faust legend, is the devil inevitably coming along to collect his due.

The thing is they even gloat about it, you just need to hone your jewdar to pilpul semantics and it become evident

The shit they do right under our noses counting on our ignorance is absolutely insane.

wooow I thought this guy was BASED but then he SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT MY JEWRIGION

disgusting subhumans

Based Pol. Absolutely true

the only "semite worship" is believing Christianity is all a 5d chess scam conjured by "semites" 2 millenia ago that the dads of our dads fell for. the cherry on top is believing that it's just you here on pol that finally "broke the spell" and allegedly saw it for what it is... which is what? love God and treat others as you would like to be treated? get real. it's the hubris of leaving Christianity behind and putting atheism and scientism in its place that managed to ruin everything in less than a century

You LARP as a Nazi on Anon Babble with your gay retarded little swastika flag. You probably have a weak chin and I could lift you off the ground by your neck with one arm tied behind my back. Don't fucking speak to me degenerate little gooncave dwelling chud

blaming a non existent religion in a mostly athetist world instead of women

such is the state of things..

claims I think I ''broke the spell''

thinks godlessness is to blame for what happened even though the west has already been declining for centuries

In an insane world it is the sane one that is called crazy. I should know. I lived it, and still do.

Evola is a faggot and a schizo and an overall piece of shit that is popular for repeating shit others have said better and I guess people like him because he seems edgy.

Brits in particular need to drop this faggot. They only like him because they’re extremely insular. Their far right in the dark ages of the early 90s didn’t have the legacy of guys like Lincoln Rockwell or David Duke. So a right wing book club found Evola and started circle jerking to him and now the culture of the insular right wing in the UK thinks Evola is the be all and end all when he is really not

Also, lot of UK elites are Satanists from the Druid tradition and witchcraft and they like Evola for that reason too

I've never met a Christian who went out of their way to care for their own. Always volunteering and donating for the benefit of out-groups. They are the polar opposite of jews, idealizing themselves as the perfect servants.

Just when you think Evola is based (normally true) you read something like this and end up questioning your understanding of traditionalism.

Eh, that quote is from Pagan imperialism. Later in life Evola softened his views on Christianity when it became apparent soulless secularism was the real problem and considered the Catholic and Orthodox faiths to be the best forms of Christianity in “The Mask and Face of Contemporary Spirituality” which is a book of his most have not read or ever heard of. Especially retards like He considered himself to be a “Catholic Pagan” after coming to the conclusion the Church is one of the few things that keep the traditions of antiquity alive.

Also, Evola hated Nazis and Fascists for the same reason I mentioned to you: he thought they were modernist reactionary LARPer faggots skinsuiting tradition

I also have a large collection of "figurines".

t. got filtered

Quiet, the adults are talking.

TPBP

uhm, it was actually like this! trust me bro!

+10 indian rupees have been deposited in your account

Later in life Evola softened his views on Christianity when it became apparent soulless secularism was the real problem and considered the Catholic and Orthodox faiths to be the best forms of Christianity

Very true. Many such cases. It doesn't surprise me that Evola came to such a conclusion; he was a genuinely brilliant guy afterall

Shut up, jew.

Don’t get me wrong he had some dogshit takes but his views on Christianity have been greatly misconstrued by dumb fucks who barely made it though the big 3 but didn’t bother reading anything else.

repeating shit others have said better

Name one of these """others""". You want to pull Spengler and Sterner out of your ass?

Racists hated staying in shadows so they convinced morons to vote for orange vader.

At least we're not speaking German.

You shut the fuck up you know I'm right

Also if you quote Nietsche at me I'm going to shit in your mouth

that's right saars! this based person actually became LE BASED CHRISTIJAN later in life! OH, OH! He also HATED THE NAZIS! LIKE HOW A GOOD HUMAN BEAN HATES RACIST PPL! definitely he didn't just mildly disagree somewhat with the Nazis HE HATED THEM!!!

got me, saar. already sched'in' my circumcision and buyin' a one way ticket to africa to watch dirty nigger feet. HALLELUJAH!

I mean 50% of Anon Babble is LGBTQ+ (at least) so it's prob for the best they're not living unnder nazism as much as they think it would be le totally heckin' basederino if uncle Adolf were president. It's like the commie retards who think Stalin did nothing wrong and don't know what the fuck they're talking about

Can somebody explain to me why satan is allowed to rule this world temporarily? It doesn't really make sense to me. God is omnipotent but can't get rid of him for a certain time?? Spare me bullshit about freewill please because that is a cope. I'm looking for a real metaphysical explanation.

REDEEMED SAAR! Jfc you have literal brainrot. Do you even read this shit, or do you just tpye it out like a monkey banging on a typewriter and send it out. wtf is actually wrong with you? If you had a father he would be so dissappointed rn

you are sane because you have aligned your views to ultimately be the same as of those you claim to be the reason for everything going to shit, i.e. those that call themselves jews but are not? something is not adding up

Fucking faggot

to separate the wheat from the chaff

the real reason is cope!

What do you know about free will on a metaphysical level? If you don’t like free will as an explanation you’re really going to fucking hate the metaphysical aspects of free will.

I mean 50% of Anon Babble is LGBTQ+

Doubt

Because it is simply cope. Needing human free will to take its course over a period of time is cope because God already knows the heart of every individual. He knows what wheat is already. He doesn't need us to tell him. The idea that he does is hilariously self-important. So I'll ask again if anyone knows real metaphysical argument for this?

You shut the fuck up you know I'm right

be kind, saar, am recovering from being an evil white supremacist, JAE HIND! CHRIST IS KING! HALLELUJAH!!!

no I don’t want to explore the metaphysics of free will

that’s cope

can someone give me the real metaphysical explanation

How about you read a book and figure it out on your own smarty pants?

thinks I'm godless

You really need to stop assuming things about people you don't know, it's not polite. My personal beliefs have nothing to do with this, only jews and christians make things personal because they know they can't argue with logic.

if christianity causes this then why do we only see said behaivor celebrated in times of Christlessness?

why satan is allowed to rule this world temporarily?

This world is a crucible to forge the soul to be of necessary quality to be with God in heaven, hence the suffering and tribulations.

Doubt

You're right, it's prob more like 80%

Let's memes program him like an NPC bugman and do his thinking for him

Fuck outta my face retard. Come back when you get an argument

Walmart

What allowed this behavior to happen?

I didn't ask about the metaphysics of free will. I asked about the metaphysical basis for satan being the temporary ruler of earth. I gave you an argument as to why free will isn't a sufficient answer to this question and you just do the predictable and seethe as to why "YOU DONT UNDERSTAND FREE WILL". This is because you don't have an answer but you still feel the need to tell me I'm wrong anyway.

am recovering from being an evil white supremacist

SAAR IS THAT WHY U APPROPRIATED THE SWASTIKA SAAAR?

You're right, it's prob more like 80%

Faggot kike

This. So many dipshits on here afraid of picking up a book and actually learning shit on their own

HALLELUJAH!!! when mgumbo the 4th kills me for being an evil white colonialist I WILL SPEND AN ETERNITY IN HEAVEN WITH 50000000000 BILLION GORILLION NIGGERS!! HALLELUJAH!!! VIVA RISTO REY!!!!! SAVE ME JEHOVA!!!!

Wow an actually plausible answer. Look at that. Why wouldn't God just make our souls ready as the sort of "factory setting" is my question to that though? He obviously could, but instead we do this long and painful process?

Faggot kike

They call you a kike, but they never call you incorrect

Everything just ends in Plutocracy letting people have some hope with religion won't change that

I guarantee the guy in the OP is an atheist. I guarantee it.

Feminism and women empowerment. It's not even close.

muh memes

Is this a meme too, rabbi? Your people invented this. One of your many proud jewish achievements, I'm sure.

Christianity IS the west.

no

I can only reply to what you said. You said it's all Christianity's fault which is false. Then you replied with what amounts to babble, so I replied to what you shared in your first post again, being that you view Christianity as evil, which just so happens to be the same worldview as of those you pretend to be against. If I am wrong then do prove me wrong instead of fence sitting

I asked about the metaphysical basis for satan being the temporary ruler of earth.

And I told you you’re going to have to explore the metaphysics of free will.

I gave you an argument as to why free will isn't a sufficient answer to this

And those arguments are dogshit for two reasons. One, you’re casually throwing aside the answer because you don’t like it. Two, it ignores thousands of years of readily available Christian doctrine.

get called retarded

u-ur seething

Hilarious. Talk about self-importance.

This is because you don't have an answer but you still feel the need to tell me I'm wrong anyway.

No, you just don’t like the answers you’re given so the spoon-feeding isn’t good enough. There is literally nothing stopping you from looking into this on your own bit here you are whining about not getting what you want. You are the chaff, a spiritual nigger if you will.

Why wouldn't God just make our souls ready as the sort of "factory setting"

He did originally with Adam and Eve. They were of pure and innocent spirit and were created with free will as well (being made in the image of God). The serpent co-opted that free will in the garden to convince Eve to eat the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil which fundamentally shattered the purity and innocence and corrupted the nature of the world, hence why we must now suffer and endure hardships to refine our souls to be as close to that original innocence and perfection as possible

It literally is.
"The west" did not exist before Christianity.
Rome was not the west.

memeflag

picrel

if christianity was just a scheme to get yuros to import niggers then how come it took 1500 years for this to happen

and how do you explain things like picrel
after all they could just have said

well let's be good christians and have those poor muslims have these lands

the answer is literally in the first few sentences of the Bible, in Genesis 1 and 2. he did. we fucked up

bullshit, also this was before he got his legs fucked like a retard in ww2.
who is 'weak' now, julius?

Federal Reserve, Imagine a money printer that is directed towards Special interests, NGO's, Marxists. You then use this money to finance agendas and usurp the culture. Sound money prevents inorganic manipulation on society because generally speaking, it's not profitable.

convinced me, scheddin' my circumcision RN

UHHH THIS TOOK A LONG TIME TO HAPPEN SO IT MEANS THAT ITS NOT...

what?

HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE FACT THAT WE REKT SHITSKINS WHEN WE WERE CHRISTIJAN!??!

Everything good, everything beautiful, powerful and valiant we did during the times of christshitstainity was IN SPITE of it. The men who fought, won and conquered were Aryan in heart, the veil of christshartstainity a mere impotent shadow over them

All those words and you still haven't said why God would need us to prove what is wheat/chaff, why he doesnt know. It's a very simple thing to answer for someone who is acting like he has read thousands of years of arguments about this. Still you refuse and become more angry/defensive.

"Most recent data" my ass

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_abortion_rate

you said it's all christianity's fault which is false No it isn't. The only comeback you had was to make it personal. I think christianity is evil, it IS evil. It claims to oppose sin yet sin is literally the only reason it's still alive at all. lol

Implying l*ddit funkopopland isn't fedora tipping atheist central

uhm whenever something good happens it's INSPITE

whenever something bad happens it's BECAUSE

also 1500 years+ is "soon"

This is sub 80 IQ

collecting valuables= bad

chridtians did this

Black african tier retardation

That butt baby still has a foreskin so doubt. Jokes aside, please get help. Posting shit like this makes you look like an unhinged schizo freak. I want you to get a gf and have a family one day bro. Touch grass and just be normal, I'm begging you

no argument

'kay

of all the plastic crap that they make, what makes someone a funko guy?

Okay that makes sense, but even then why the process? Why not just replace our self-imposed sinful nature with the wave of a hand?

full-on reddit speech

can't hide it anymore huh

The biggest problem with christianity is that it denies evil as a choice. It just claims evil is something that happens to you. And in there you can see where liberalism got it's version of ''evil is just ignorance'' from. From christianity.

>full-on reddit speech

NO U

You are the kike, nigger

so I just found out that evola was an Italian (never cared to look this up before)
why is it that nords and germanics are relating to some guy who obviously means "Globohomo of the first millennia" when saying "The west"

Romans were literally importing noggs into yurop before christianity was even a thing

waahhhh ur not giving me what I want u big meanie

This is you.

It's a very simple thing to answer for someone who is acting like he has read thousands of years of arguments about this.

It has already been said the answer is a cope so what is the point in spoon-feeding the retarded when they don’t want to learn in the first place? Metaphysics was asked for. Free will is the answer like it or not so I asked he he wanted to get into the metaphysics of free will. He still refused the answer then bitched about it. Not my problem.

The west has not been declining for centuries. It’s been declining since the 1970s

why not just replace our self-imposed sinful nature with the wave of a hand?

that would remove the free will to self-impose said sinful nature on ourselves. from my understanding God did not want automatons, he wanted sons who willingly chose to be on his side

it denies evil as a choice

does it?

Too much wealth inequality.

kek

I'm very interested in these questions because I do find that real suffering has a purifying effect, but real suffering in my case has also been a bit of a horseshoe, where the more I suffer, the more I absolutely fucking loathe the average person, but love the downtrodden/disabled. It's a bit like drinking where there is a performance sweetspot, but gets messy after that. I feel I am becoming more rotten now.

Greed

The human species will fall because they cannot overcome this one flaw of their nature.

memeflag

uses Wojakchad in 2k25

oh no no no

Not my problem.

After talking with me for like 20 minutes. You could have just said you didn't have an answer. Normalfags are wild.

industrialism followed by marxism. people saying christianity are literal retards, there is no "west" without christianity.

but the true issue with humanity is that we outlived our purpose, we broke out of our natural harmony to start civilization, and the story of mankind since has exclusively been about managing, typically poorly, the fallout. and now we live lives that encourage the worst of our impulses and punishes us for our best.

That funko fag is likely a screaming atheist.

it hasn't been declining for centuries

Yeah it has. You're just too dumb cause you're a normie. Things were already bad in the 1800s. Just because those things didn't bother you personally doesn't mean they didn't happen.

They claim all evil is because of ''muh demons'' but really, people can just choose to be dicks. Liberalism struggles with the same thing.

Suffering is the meaning of life.

no argument again

and I'll be using it in 3k25 too
4k25
5k25
1000000k25

because you're an impotent subhuman and I will do exactly whatever the fuck I want to do

I guess it makes sense, but if this is the truth it means almost all people are chaff or have rotten souls, which is insane to me. And we are still supposed to love these "souls"? Why? God will be casting them into a firepit presumably.

After talking with me for like 20 minutes.

And after all that time you now understand why free will is the answer and not a cope. Look at that.

You could have just said you didn't have an answer.

I said the answer and it was said that isn’t good enough.

n-normalfag!

You’re the one coming with the two bit “free will is cope” reddit atheist arguments pal.

They claim all evil is because of ''muh demons''

if "they" would actually read the Bible "they" would know it is the love of money that is the root of all evil. you should actually read the book you pretend to know so much about instead of posting sweeping statements like this

it was me... sorry guys

Except I'm Catholic. You just assumed that I wasn't because I was trying to find an answer from somebody, and the question and your lack of answer made you feel insecure (because you're a newfag/npcuck).

The exponential growth of shitskinned populations

Bet you're circumcised lmao

Sex must be stopped

christianity is an psychological weapon against white people. our ancestors were converted forcefully, and Anon Babble isnt first in recognizing christianity's true nature. It is an anti-life, anti-instonct religion
wisdom bad, lust bad, vengance bad, power bad, pride bad. everything that makes life thrive is bad, and reward lies beyond life. truly a jewish trick. everything that makes people and whole nations weak is seen as moral and good, christianity is theological commism.

that dude looks jewish

jfc are you still in here yapping? Go outside lil bro

feminism and homosexuals

only losers and autists thing the west is declining

no but I will be soon after you convinced me to give up my evil white supremacist ways and become a good person! hallelujah! christ is KING! SAVE ME LORD FROM BEING AN EVIL COLONIZER!!!!!!!!!

indeed. we were warned of this in Matthew 7

13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

thankfully God gave everyone a simple way out through Jesus Christ

John 3

13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life.16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil.20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved.21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

lowkey tho
the 19th amendment was the actual
like actual
objective cause
actually tho
white womens suffrage destroyed the western world

repeal 19
add number whatever
i dont think the numbers matter anymore
add number whatev
women can vote n shit
just NOT white women

Least delusional American

willingly

but any other choice is eternal suffering

kek retard. If I put a gun to your head, and tell you I will kill you if you dont do what I want is it muh free will or a blackmail?

convinced me to give up my evil white supremacist ways and become a good person!

You're going to die alone and miserable if you keep up this bullshit going down this satanic path of retardation. Like I keep telling you, just be normal

as I said - you are worshipping them if you think they managed to conjure up a weapon that our ancestors fell for. wisdom is praised in the Bible. uncontrolled lust is definitely bad, why are you defending it? vengence belongs to the Lord. power is a broad statement, and pride is definitely really, really bad, lol. anon, please... read the New Testament, it's clear you're just parroting what you've heard instead of actually looking into the subject at hand

if ''they'' read the Bible ''they'' would know it is the love of money

That's not only communist gobbledygook but also unrelated to what I was talking about. I wasn't talking about the ''root of all evil'' I was talking about how christianity makes morality binary while in reality, good and evil lies within all of us. It's not binary.

Nah this is bullshit. None of the shit we complain about today was present when Europe was actually Christian, all of it started when Europe got secularized. Most of the modern turbo progressives are irreligious and the religious ones are larpers (yes BOTH the hippy troon pagans and hippy troon christians are going against what the actual religions stated and no amount of Anon Babble christians and pagans saying "yeah for my side but theirs isn't" coping will change that) Evola was biased and saw color coded history the same way you would see a Christian saying it was all great because of Christianity ignoring other factors, he doesn't really understand his opponents actual views the same way the former doesn't.
It isn't just religion it is other factors as well, such as the industrial revolution and modernizing technology eliminated any harsh conditions and brought about the slavery of comfort. There is nothing to struggle against and this gave rise to epicurean thought in the west we worship harm avoidance and pleasure seeking instead of anything masculine, we make excuses for our vices instead of overcoming them (the entire lgbt, fat acceptance movements etc).
The other huge factors was Enlightenment anti-religious, egalitarian & materialist propaganda won out and took the intellectuals and elite under it's paradigm and thus enlightenment ideas were pushed by the rulling class upon the masses.
WW1 killed off the real monarchies of Europe and brought great favor to liberalism and WW2 sealed the deal and completely demonized nationalism in the eyes of the people.
But retards here will not look at anything objectively just shit-fling and strawman each other, posts wojaks and other bullshit that makes reddit look intelligent by comparison.

Also 1 post by this ID thread. D&C ragebait garbage.

of course!! its why I'm turning to christianity! ILL NEVER BE ALONE ANYTHING BUT THAT!!! ILL BE IN HEAVEN WITH ALL THE BASED NIGGERS!!! HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Very overtly the decline of Christianity after the great wars, despite Evola. I wonder what he'd think of today's non christian world.

Christianity

Trojan horse for jews

jews

Destroy and drain society

immigration

Main weapon used by jews. A multicultural society is easy to manipulate and drain resources from

alo retardu, sta je dozvolilo da se sve to prosiri?

Except I'm Catholic.

So am I. The fact you need to ask what the answer is when you’re one is not good.

You just assumed that I wasn't because I was trying to find an answer from somebody

Assumed you’re what? An atheist? I said you came with two bit reddit atheist arguments. I didn’t call you an atheist. Learn how to read.

the question and your lack of answer made you feel insecure

You didn’t like the answer.

You are literally massively inbred too.
Jews have many genetic diseases exlcusive to them because you love diddling your sisters and cousins.

Thanks for your answers. So how do I deal with my loathing for normalfaggotry in your opinion? I elaborated on it a little bit in this post.. I used to have a genuinely kind/caring disposition towards everyone I met, and now it only applies to the gentle souls I meet, or the downtrodden/disabled. I have come to view the average person as kind of evil, and this seems to be true biblically, yet I'm supposed to love these people and I'm exhausted and humiliated by doing so.

Apparently, everybody loves diddling their sisters and cousins because entire countries are inbred by now. The more ethnocentric a society becomes the more inbred it becomes. Unsurprisingly.

Once your balls drop you'll see I was right and you'll think back to this conversation and be thankful to me for trying to help you. Bet

God set up the garden of Eden and allowed Adam and Eve to roam freely and do what they wanted but set up one (1) rule - do not eat of the fruit of the knowledge of good and evil (which God knew would impose sinful nature on us). serpent made Eve question God's word and instilled pride in her ("thou shalt be as gods"). Eve listened to the serpent, and Eve told Adam who listened to Eve instead of God. nobody was forced to do anything so your comparison is not apt. as I said - actually read the book

Woman worship.

You still never gave me an answer though.

And not really, asking questions is not bad. The only thing required is faith in Christ's divinity, which I have. You're still a faceberg gen x newfag who hasn't given me an answer though.

The truth is that no other faith has built greater civilizations and made the world a better place than the Christian Faith

Japan looks significantly nicer than every Christian country right now. All Christian and formerly Christian lands are decaying shitholes

Povjesno krscani su bili protiv prosvjetiteljstva, pogotovo katolicka crkve koju su svi prosvjetiteljski mislioci mrzili sa strascu. I same stvari sto su promovirane su protiv njihove vjere, a ne samo protiv njihove nego generalno ideje bogova i tradicije. Epikurizam nije kompatibilian sa tom religijom uopce. A razvoj tehnologije je sam svoja stvar.
Opet ovo sve nije postojalo ni pod krscanstvom ni pot starim europskim vjerama. Tvoja implikacija nema veze sa realnošću.

My pleasure. The rotten state of this world jades us all, but I do not have answers to everything, I'm human just like you. God does though. Try talking to him in your thoughts; he made a few promises, and the following is one of them

Matthew 7
7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: 8 For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.

Multiculturalism. You let in foreigners and begin to give them positions of influence and suddenly your country is tearing apart.

glownigger.tv

How's your FBI office doing, Chaim?

Japan looks significantly nicer than every Christian country right now.

Japan is also suffering a sever population crisis, but I agree it's a nice place and I'm not even a weeb

All Christian and formerly Christian lands are decaying shitholes

That's because of secularization. The lack of Christianity is causing the problems, not the proliferation of Christianity

You still never gave me an answer though.

You said the answer is cope when I asked you about what you know about the metaphysics of free will. Because free will is the answer and if you want the real metaphysical you’re going to need to explore the metaphysics of free will. You’ve apparently accepted that in this very thread.

And not really, asking questions is not bad.

No, but being an obtuse dickhead like you is.

The only thing required is faith in Christ's divinity, which I have.

“Free will” is Catholicism 101.

You're still a faceberg gen x newfag who hasn't given me an answer though.

I already did. You’re just an idiot. Not my fault you’re one either.

The industrial revolution and technological advancement caused the secularization, christianity was forced upon indo-europeans but without force, they'll always end up abandoning it except for a handful of nostalgic fanboys.

Thank you, I will do that. You have helped me more than you probably realize.

Humans naturally demand change after every major happening in human history. This change may not be helpful but that is the nature of mob mentality, and why democracy eventually leads to tyranny. The anti religious movement of the socialists and the takeover of every major country with utopian socialists is the cause of modern degeneracy.

Rather than make real practical changes to assist the individual in spiritual enlightenment every government uses its population as collateral for their money printing. The ultimate problem is too little actual guidance in education and a focus on mass produced easily digestible anecdotal propaganda to fast track scum into some sort of service sector job

all they had to do was infecting Rome with it. They are able to control basically the entire world right now, do you think psyoping peasants while genociding those that didn't want to be psyoped would be too hard for them? Wisdom is praised but Adam and Eve got casted away from eating from the tree of knowledge (god lied anyway, he said they will die if they ate this fruit, which didn't happen) lust creates life, pride makes people uncucked and unwilling to bend the knee, there is no power in turning the other cheek. Jesus said he came to turn son against his father, and that people should give away their riches. Its literal psy-op in every way.
Dont forget to chant "my fault, my fault" in the church next Sunday, goyim. Everything that's bad in this world is your fault, so never question your jewish idol and jewish master, you sinner! Oh and rememver to love your enemies, in case you figure something out

Prideful gen x newfag who wandered out of /ptg/ for the first time. I fully understand why people hate Americans desu.

A tvoja ima? Samo sto si rekao je da su to 'mrzeli', a sta su uradili po tome? NISTA. KURAC. gle sad gde smo zbog neakcije

That's so stupid
christianity is in the west since a long time, we rised with christianity

Japan is also suffering a sever population crisis, but I agree it's a nice place and I'm not even a weeb

The world is severely overpopulated. The Georgia guidestones are unironically correct. Having less humans would significantly raise the quality of life. More housing, higher wages, more land availability, etc.

That's because of secularization. The lack of Christianity is causing the problems, not the proliferation of Christianity

Then why are majority Christian nations (ie South America) doing worse than formerly Christian nations (ie Europe). Murder and income levels are decent metrics to show this

t. literal retard

Like I said, go read a book.

christianity built muh civilization

If the christians hadn't destroyed all the knowledge that polytheistic Europe acquired, and if they didn't suppress technological advancement, we'd be lightyears ahead of where we are now.

I wasn't talking about Adam and Eve being forced, you know that.
You say God didn't want automatons, but he created hell and eternal suffering for those that dont obey him. Thats blackmail.

I will torture you if you wont suck my dick

But the choice is yours though! Im merciful teeheee

Also, if God is omnipotent and omniscient, he would know that giving people free will will lead some of them to hell. He did it anyway, so, by that logic, he created beings only to torture them, because he knows the future and character of every living being, right? or he doesn't know everything? It doesn't make any sense, because its a psyop to make goyim a cattlee

Because their lives are generic, soulless, mass produced, empty pieces of plastic too.

hadn't destroyed all the knowledge that polytheistic Europe acquired

Like what? How to build mud huts and ferment wood alcohol?

if they didn't suppress technological advancement, we'd be lightyears ahead of where we are now

Historical falsehood. The Church was one of the harbingers of Science and Technological advancement

anyone posting after me is a good goy

You're an absolute pleb in the truest sense of the word if you claim to read and understand Evola while espousing christian dogshit. You understand nothing, and this is why I consistently chastise those who wish to simplify Evola's work. He is not meant for your kind.

right now

it was controlled since the beginning, which is why satan tried tempting Christ with it

Matthew 4

8Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; 9And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me. 10Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve. 11Then the devil leaveth him, and, behold, angels came and ministered unto him.

God did not lie - death got to Adam and Eve, just as it will come for us all. Love creates life, not lust, and pride does the opposite of what you described. As for the rest of your post, you are conflating Catholicism with Christianity. Read the gospel according to John. I recommend the King James translation (KJV)

Correct. Both the ruling systems under the old european faiths and historical christianity opposed this and enforced rules that piss on populism and induvidualism.

A tvoja ima?

Da

a sta su uradili po tome? NISTA. KURAC

Ti ne znas osnovnu Europsku povijest. Revolucije, Napoleonova prisilna sekularizacija, generalno opadanje vjere u moderno doba kao što obzervirao Niče da je "Bog vec bio mrtav u javnosti" što je već bilo 1800tih, vecina religioznih ljudi su tada bili sekularizirani i adaptirali svoje vjere da budu kompatibilne sa trenutno nametnutnim sistenom polako... tj borili su se ali su izgubili. A zatim svjetski ratovi su zapecatili to. Ti ne daješ ozbiljnu kontrargumentaciju samo retardirane one-linere. Procitaj moj orginalni post. Beuzumno si prihvatio Varg/Adam Green-tier retardacije i agresivno siktis na krscane kao singularni boogeyman umjesto da realno analiziras stanje civilizacije i promjene kroz povijest modernog doba.

if God is omnipotent and omniscient, he would know that giving people free will will lead some of them to hell. He did it anyway, so, by that logic, he created beings only to torture them, because he knows the future and character of every living being, right?

Yes. God is all-knowing, therefore he knew all the future of all his creations before he created them. This explicitly means that he created people knowing that they would be tortured eternally in hell BEFORE he made them

Fortunately hell doesn't real. God is real though

Historical falsehood. The Church was one of the harbingers of Science and Technological advancement

The Catholic church was one of the most evil and dysgenic forces ever unleashed on Europe. For more than a thousand years all men interested in literacy or science were encouraged to become celibate monks and delete their genetics from the gene-pool. Absolutely insidious

jewish bullshit over and over again

moras psihijatriju

The Catholic church was one of the most evil and dysgenic forces ever unleashed on Europe.

Literal fake revisionist history made up by Hitchens et al. The postmodernist atheistic deconstructionist movement is the true scourge

God created hell for satan and his angels. Those who oppose God join them. Your confusion can be dispelled if you do the wise thing and go and actually read what you are currentlu judging without even knowing what it actually says

This fag can shut his mouth about hierarchy. From whence did Rome come? Apparently nobody orphans raised by dogs. By his metrics they should die as well. All monarchy and hierarchy is completely arbitrary and nothing is set in stone. The tides can turn at any time. Romans once thought the Germans were disgusting barbarians and then got completely trampled by them.

Retarded

The idea that freedoms do not have attached duties

pic

This makes no sense at all. Someone knowing the outcome of an action doesn't take away the agency of the one committing it. The christian deity or any other religion's omnipotent deity knowing what will happen in the future doesn't invalidate a mortal actor's choice to do that action, free will is the actor's choice to do something independent of said deity knowing. Nor does being born in certain conditions impede on free will. Free will is the capacity or ability to choose between different possible courses of actions with what you can realistically do (not being tall enough to vbecome a basketball player is not a lack of free will, just the conditions you have, you can choose to anhero since you didn't get your wish or you could pick something else)
Lack of free will would be like chatgtp not being able to think anything racist etc. The complete innability to choose to act in mind is lack of free will. For instance if humans couldn't choose not to believe in deities their brains, if they couldn't even think against the gods.

I have no argument so I will call you jewish

Basic European history is jewish bullshit

Idi ti stari, ne argumentiras nego samo pricas u online buzzwordima kad netko ospori glupost koju si rekao.

You are correct, but your meme just cites 3 dudes which is bad, just tell him to rather look up the conflict thesis and historians debunking it.

convincing people that caring about anything is "cringe"

roman empire

totally didn't die because of its own decadence

proudly wasting your life on this earth with senseless, selfish activities

christian

yeah, right

i spend alot on media too but at some point i stop my self by saying

this money could go to better things like charity or supporting local businesses

giving bitches the right to vote

Very true. Thanks for the feedback, fren

Losing faith in Jesus Christ, that is the only explanation.

but Anon Babble told me behaviour is genetic

Pol is also full of losers and rejects rationalizing their failures by blaming others and disavowing their lack of socialization by displacing the blame onto others rather than their own inadequate efforts.

thanks for not adressing any point, retard. God knew people will end up in hell since the very beginning. Also, Angels aren't supposed to have free will, right? so how did they rebel? And God knew they would rebel the moment he created them, right? So he created them knowing they will end up suffering in hell.You just tell me to read this jewish fairy tale, because you have nothing of substance to say.

Retards like evola who think we are the same as shit eating pajeets

I like this quote but what we find is that the "white man" is a slave class inside of the worldview that posits this quote.

Once your traditions have been destroyed it is a wrap. He worked extraordinarily hard throughout his life to recreate or bring back from the dead a spiritual tradition. He was as far as I can tell unable to do so. He was intelligent he created groups of people, he dedicated his whole life. He was blown up and injured in a nazi library while studying these topics.

We are now sadly the exact tradition less slaves that Christianity was meant to uplift.

It is why the chirst cucks always point to it, because we lost this war like 2000 years ago.

Maybe the Eastern Orthodox wrapped enough paganism and philosophical pursuits into Christianity to keep it virile. And catholicism had a change but seems to be almost dead.

But the protestant christ cucks are the slaves Evola is referencing.

Dont know how to feel about these digits. Anon's help me understand, for this surely is not a coincidence.

Pretty much

Small white penises = low birth rates

allowing people to think there was a first principle

god, I hate evola

Greece and early Rome were killers. Proper turbo Chads. Has christianity ever expanded like that? It seems like the west has been on the backfoot ever since christianity. It infected Rome and western Rome collapsed within a lifetime. Byzantine never did shit. Lost the crusades. Reconquista against a disordered Islam was cool, but the win-loss ratio has been pretty bad. It’s bum boxer tier. It can only win against bums. It’s hype and not a true superpower.

Religion is good for organizing a people and teaching them what is expected of the tribesmen and all that. But Christianity does not work guys, it is a weak religion. As long as the west holds onto it the more it shrinks, replaced with warrior religions.

Even jews, though subversive rat people, have a warrior religion and sense. What do Christians have? “Be nice”, “accept everybody”. Christianity is a joke. It’s weak.

Christianity's weakness is what created the breeding grounds of pure degeneracy we are currently living in.

For your entire argument to conflate "progress" e.g. the times we currently live in as the best ever, means you literally didn't grasp the most important and present concept of the entirety of his works.

Mainly that progress is a farce and a degeneration into materialism.

If you consider that most digital technology most likely has a luicferian current, which pulls the spirit away from its work in the material realm. If the pilfering of white technology to pocs, to elevate them and allow them to live like we have, has all lead to inversion of values

This has all happened under Christian domination. It is an absolute catastrophe .

Trying to effortpost about how Christianity is slavery and caused the genocide of muh wholesome pagan spirituality

You are having nostalgia for something you've never experienced and are trying to reify a mere aesthetic. Rightwingers try their hardest to disavow being cu.cked yet end up being the biggest ideological cuc.ks themselves, because they literally leave themselves no escape route. Once you solidify, you become wooden and die.

You are brown, opinion discarded.

The bible literally says if you dont work you dont eat chud

If you consider that most digital technology most likely has a luicferian current, which pulls the spirit away from its work in the material realm. If the pilfering of white technology to pocs, to elevate them and allow them to live like we have, has all lead to inversion of values

This happened post 1960's hippie/free love/sexual revolution/civil rights movement era at the time when the intelligentsia were pushing fro modernist and postmodernist philosophical worldviews. It is the aftermath of this in which we are living now, not Christianity. Blaming Christianity for the failures of weak men created by the 'good times' afforded to them by Christianity is a 'post hoc, ergo propter ho' fallacy. Simple as

Islam corrects this and would make the european man fearsome again. It's basically a monotheistic viking religion.

Someone knowing the outcome of an action doesn't take away the agency of the one committing it

Viewer =! Director
Reader =! Author
Creation =! Creator

If a Creator creates something knowing what it will do beforehand he is in fact completely responsible for the outcome

If a man breeds a violent pitbull in his garage and knows 100% that it will kill children when he releases it, and he does so, and it does kill a child- he is responsible

Human law would hold the pitbull breeder responsible for his creation, and yet you hold the omniscient creator of all things as somehow less morally responsible than mortal men

We all know the story of Galileo

Galileo was an asshole that went out of his way to make a fool of himself, that should be the real lesson of his name

Jews. Anything else people might say like female liberation, world wars, mass migration etc is simply a symptom of the Jew.

We all know the story of Galileo

The real story or the fake story?

Christians voted for all of that. Christian nations alone evolved into globohomo

every civilization has always a core of rules that dictate the law of the land and the principles of right and wrong, and a majority of people follow it, which could be a constitution or a religion, or a nobility code. whatever. (there are cores of rules competing aswell)
if there is a dominant core of rules, the people of the civilization have to take a stance toward it.
so we have the following groups: neutral, rebels, and followers.
rebels and followers have the following sub-groups:
true-believers, grifters, poser/NPC

1. true believers: believe core of rules and try to follow all the precepts
2. grifters: do not believe in the core of rules but support if for personal gain
3. posers/NPCs: superficially believe in the core of rules but mostly adopt the aesthetic of it and mimic the beliefs of others, the goal is to gain status, but differently from grifters they are not aware of their behaviors.

so
if the main core of rules is: the tribal spirit,
the NPC rent-seeking status become a warrior or a sycophant of the biggest warrior (benefit community)

if the main core of rules is: nationalism.
the NPC rent-seeking status discriminates against the diverse and the deviant (benefit community)

if the main core of rules is: a religion such as christianity
the NPC rent-seeking status tries to outdo competition, becoming a christcvck discriminates strength (benefit outgroup)

if the main core of rules is: freedom
the NPC rent-seeking status tries to outdo competition, becoming for example an anti-racist discriminates his people (benefit outgroup)

conclusion: genetic predisposition for certain human beings to try to achieve status in their community actively shift the overton window in favor or against the community, depending on which core of rules dominate the civilizations.
civilizationns that achieve abundance for their people slide toward a less strict core of rules, which lead to freedom which lead to decadence, which lead to bad times.

I'm honestly starting to hate christniggers.

Yes but if you understand that as the completion of the culture wars within the united states. Where jews and catholicism battled for decency laws to keep our culture somewhat traditionalist and lost when the protestants sided with the jews and create the judeo christain propoganda arm.

Also you underplay the role in Christianity in defeating the Nazi, protestant United Kingdom and Protestant United states defeat the evil Nazi's, to protect world jewery and banking. The defeating nazi is what allowed jewish interested to consolidate power. The hippy movements are direct causations of the frankfurt schools cultural manipulation work in the 50's and 60's. This work was allowed due to the judeo christain alliance.

Thank you for your little taxonomy and ontological breakdown. It's irrelevant tho

every civilization has always a core of rules that dictate the law of the land and the principles of right and wrong

Where does the concept of 'right and wrong' come from? You have to answer that first as to how you are deriving an 'ought' from an 'is'. Without that, all of this is mental masturbation

Time.

poisoned the genes of roman empire

was christian since AD 300

ended in AD 1456

closely followed by European Renaissance which was centered on Christian imagery

I hate Germans so much bros

This also would have never happened to the united states if the protestants would not have killed the anti globalist revolution happening in Germany.

I am just here to say that the elevation of weakness that the Protestant obsesses over is a direct antithesis to the white spirit and a direct cause of current degeneration.

The elevation of weakness and decay of the Christian is the exact reason that pocs are being elevated and replacing aryan traditionalist peoples.

This is done simply because a banking globalist elite benefit from a flock of sheep instead of a flock of wolves.

Sheep were often used as sacrificial animals (Numbers 28:4; Exodus 29:39). In the old testament. Then all of a sudden in the New Testament the follower of christ became the sheep.

the internet and misinformation. Places like reddit where only one side is allowed to talk, Anon Babble is ok sometimes.

Anon, what’s your address. I want to come over to your house.

Day why stupid chimp. Your reddit tier diatribe is vexing. Not answering directly is a fundamental kike characteristic

Whoever wrote did not know how Christianity influenced the enlightenment. Common heathen L

It started as a donation scheme that grew rapidly like a virus in the Ganges. All powerful God has no need of a collection box and money

I found this

In UNESCO's early antiracist statement, "The Race Question" (1950): "The biological fact of race and the myth of 'race' should be distinguished. For all practical social purposes, 'race' is not so much a biological phenomenon as a social myth. The myth of 'race' has created an enormous amount of human and social damage. In recent years, it has taken a heavy toll in human lives, and caused untold suffering".[11]

The United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO /juːˈnɛskoʊ/)[2][a] is a specialized agency of the United Nations (UN) with the aim of promoting world peace and security through international cooperation in education, arts, sciences and culture.[3][4]

At least 14 popes were crypto jews. Who knows how many

Ahh yes stuff like the 30 Yeats war helped the white race. Get bombed

when the concept of universal suffrage was introduced

I hate funko pops as much as the next guy but being able to amass this much useless shit on a whim is surely a sign of a country that is laughably successful due to Christianity lmao

Is freewill a tool or the outcome pick one child

What was the principle cause of the decline of the west?

*JEWS*

What loving God makes crimes inheritable?

Gaytheists are funny, they always prove their fundamental ignorance when they use this as the crux of their argument. Now go actually read the bible and see what it says around that passage.
You won't because you're a disingenuous degenerate.

These people who can't observe objective reality and make sense of it, while scoffing at others for doing what they can't are insufferable.

Solid point. Maybe the Redditors are God's Chosen People after all

All those monks didn't pass their genes or nuns. Dysgenic

God created your nation to be raped by Turks. Simple as. He knew the outcome

Google the the definition of the word 'dysgenic' before spamming it like a pseud

crippled half that was raped to death by ARABS lmao died in 1456

As Yeshua commands!

dudes are really posting the sopranos guy and oretending hes a nationalist

A lack of whites and white population is dysgenic for Europe you fucking ape. If you demonstrated critical thought outside the christjew paradigm you were killed much like Communism. It enforced slave cattle behavior or sociopaths rising to the top/ true BELIEBBBBERS aka lacking critical thought.

That was crisis of 8th century which Byzantium successfully overcame and eventually fell because Crusaders weakened it with pillage

Do not resist evil and love your enemies?

"You have heard that it was said, ‘Eye for eye and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you not to resist an evil person. If someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also; if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well; and if someone forces you to go one mile, go with him two miles. Give to the one who asks you, and do not turn away from the one who wants to borrow from you.

You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor' and ‘Hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you that you may be sons of your Father in heaven. He causes His sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Do not even tax collectors do the same? And if you greet only your brothers, what are you doing more than others? Do not even gentiles do the same?" (Matthew 5:38-47)

what does the concept of right and wrong mean?

A tribe of 30 cavemen lives in the jungle. One day, one of the cavemen woke up, took his wooden club, crushed the skull of another caveman, and took everything the victim owned.
how the rest of the cavemen react?

if they attack him, kill him or kick him out, then killing the tribe members is wrong.
if they praise him, stating that strong takes everything, loser deserves nothing, then killing a tribe member = strong, and strong is good.
or maybe they ask the witchdoctor what to do and the witchdoctor pull out the verdict out of his ass, but the tribe is still fine with it.
or maybe they don't care, so tomorrow another caveman could wake up and repeat the same deed unabated. why no?

The point here is that the moment the caveman does his deed, civilization will take a stance among the sea of possibilities, establishing norms that guide behavior, irrespective of whether these norms are objectively grounded.
So my post is about the functional aspect of how societies mechanically operate, regardless of the moral justification or whatever that binds morality.
Hopefully, it is a bit clearer.

I got an awful lot of lecturing about not giving into temptation. Even Satan is seen as a character who offers worldly power for the corruption of your soul. You make a deal with the devil he doesn't just smite your ass. God does the smiting. I don't know what off-brand version of Christianity you were raised in.

So fucking stupid. Look how much the West has accomplished since it adopted Christianity. If you are judging religions by how successful their societies are, Christianity is the victor hands down. There is no real competition. Who ever is in second place is a far far second place.

Worshipping money as the supreme value from which all others must follow.

Muh might makes right

If that were the case living in a a ruthless brutal society where only the strong survive would be the norm, but that clearly isn't what we see. There are plenty of societies where the 'weak' and 'undesirable' members (like 4chuds) are not only tolerated but treated with respect and allowed to live peacefully among the the 'fitter' members

Do you have a twinge feeling that maybe you were memed since birth by parents who were memed since birth themselves? You should re-evaluate your ferverent adherence to christcuckery in the face of everything in opposition to it in nature.

The roman and orthodox catholic churches will fall, and Zion will be destroyed in my lifetime!

We're going to nuke india this century. It's what is talked about in the secret WN cabal meetings we have for when we finally have control of the nukes. One way or another, india will pay as a nation this century!

go actually read the bible

Nobody who reads the faggot ass (((bible))) should have a higher opinion of it than before they read it.

The problem that the West has is the lack of natural resources, only space exploration can solve this problem unless the law of conservation of mass and energy can be violated.
The solution is there, everything else is secondary, even shit Christianity.

if you put your posts and mine inside an AI textbox, it will help you break down the discussion, and you can ask the AI what point I am trying to make and trying to say. because if you came up with "might makes right" from my posts, you missed my point by a wide margin and I'm not able to explain in simpler terms than that.

Failure to properly adapt its social technologies and institutions and civilizational strategy to changing circumstances over time.

lmao, biggest cuck mentality imaginable

oh you raped my wife

please also rape me and my daughter

Ironically enough that's exactly what happens in Europe. Christkikery truly is the root of evil.

The one true God. Explained in Romans 5:

12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come.15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.17 For if by one man's offence death reigned by one; much more they which receive abundance of grace and of the gift of righteousness shall reign in life by one, Jesus Christ.)18 Therefore as by the offence of one judgment came upon all men to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one the free gift came upon all men unto justification of life.19 For as by one man's disobedience many were made sinners, so by the obedience of one shall many be made righteous.20 Moreover the law entered, that the offence might abound. But where sin abounded, grace did much more abound: 21 That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

I hate Christcucks so much it's unreal.

EVERYTHING prosperous they credit to Christianity is just left over from the Greeks and Romans. Europe's foundation was so strong it succeeded DESPITE being cucked by a jew religion.

We need another Renaissance/Enlightenement.

women's rights obliterated any chance we had